never play in a svr with non-steam players. they cant get vac banned. just banned from that svr. so there isnt any risk for them to hack compared to steam players who get their accounts banned from VAC.

not saying that VAC is 100% hack proof. but neither is any other anti cheat programs out there.

U can download here http://forum.digitalpowered.info/index.php?&showtopic=21930
Thats post if from blackcat. In order to view the post u nid to register.




Thx for praising. U also need to think about us also because we not really that perfect. Sometimes we will misjudge that player is hacker or not hacker. Other than that, i also need to tell u if u dint use sXe please don't even say abt other ppl. We already know that, sXe-injection no longer can prevent player from hacking, it just help to reduce some noob hackers. U must try to be our shoe


~FlameHaze~

I TOTALLY AGREE...

there are many hackers like immortal, chiengfatfat (aka Hical), royal flush, waterz, yihau, joshlim (okada) etc.. and all the admin's friends and regulars that hack on the server, yet they seem to close one eye and dont ban them.

I am very pissed off at the biasedness of the admins on the server. They arent good....

Also, i remember this:
A hacker came into the AMCG server, waterz was with no sxe tag. Hacker was walling a bit, waterz removed the no sxe tag for like 30 secs and banned the hacker (with no sxe tag, waterz is not logged in as admin), then put back no sxe tag..

And i hate it how the admins and their friends whom they passed sxe bypass too, so that the admins and other people can use sxe and open wall hack, using a no sxe bypass hack... something like to stop gameguard for maplestory if you get what i mean, but you dont need a cheat engine, just open the sxe bypass and you can bypass sxe..

I dont like it, when it is obvious that waterz and yihau and hical and tetsujin hack, but they deny it, and they dont face any condemnation on the server as they are admin and people are scared to accuse them. it is obvious waterz, yihau, hica and tetsujin hack. and dont give me this rubbish that oh gimme proof i hack etc.. because you KNOW WHAT? you dont have proof that any of the ppl are hackers that where mentioned.... why do you guys go accuse ppl of hacking (e.g. waterz said william chew and wee are hackers, but he has no proof..) show me the video waterz...

oh and btw, nice going with the sxe bypass, it is so easily found on forums..

also, i hate it how this happened and i got banned:

- i kill yihau/waterz with awp, turn around and scope in, and see someone and shoot them... instant ban

i hate how yihau and waterz are kiasu and when u kill them, they almost immediately ban u of hacking. i dont care if you guys hack, but if you ban ppl whilst you are hacking, then thats wrong.

so dont.

punk.

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Added on July 3, 2008, 11:34 pmand how is sxe injected to reduce noob hackers? its so easy to find an sxe bypass online. flamehaze, you are biased, not a good admin

so u r royal?
when ppl complain about u and ask u get sxe
u ignored them
so i tell u again by admin words on the screen
"PLEASE GET SXE ROYAL"
and u just ignore me like never see wat i said
and then i ask again i said "PLEASE?" u just ignore again
and then later u say "ADMINS IGNORE MY COMPLAIN AND ONLY ASK ME GET SXE"
are u sure that i ignore u? did i? i spec every player that u COMPLAINED
i tried to help but u just ignored so i kicked u out and ask u open ur sxe and come back
i DID NOT BAN u

oh well ur computer always lag when SXE ON?
dude
i tell u wat
u dont play so good with sxe on
its truth
maybe ur pc is really laggy
but u cant prove that u aint hackin with [NO-SXE] infront of ur nick

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Added on July 3, 2008, 11:56 pm
u geng lah
what can i say?
ur imagination damn good
just imagine then
"think everything is like wat u think"
just ignore u better :\

by the way
stop making stories here
u did not kill us in game and get banned by us

how to prove?
go into server and check it out by urself, people
stop talking nonsense here, Mr. SMRY

look dude, real pros or hacker that doesnt get sxe-injected, whenever ppl complain, im being informed that players without sxe that are being complained by majority of the players hav to go use sxe. in order to do that i have to kick u out isnt it? yes some hackers might bypass sxe and good acting, im not as experience as some of u are, so im trying to get help. there are ppl that say Fearsniper hacker.. he hav sxe wat can i do? Those fellas doesnt know thats Flamehaze, will u kick a host? as long as u get sxe, u can make ur complaint. when u urself doesnt oblige by the rules, how do u wan others to follow?

Bout sxe eating ur virtual memory? i hadnt heard any1 says bout that only you. and as im not good in computer stuff. i wouldnt know if u're saying the truth, i'll find the answer soon.






1st of all, chieng is in JB, and hical is in KL, chieng is chiense, hical is malay. 2ndly, i played with hical, chieng, royal, yihau quite often and i can tell u their performance hadnt change since i knew them. i dont know bout okada becz i've totally lost contact with him.

2ndly, i remove sxe tag? thats not it. I did not on my sxe when i come in and i kick b4 i joined any team. most of u shulld know that ur name will be changed when u begin ur game. else it'll stay the same till the next round. so b4 the round begins, the obvious hackers of cz shuld be kick. am i suppose to wait?

If u wan proof that i dint hack? imma bring the laptop im using to play and meet up. and if u din find any other programme other than cs ,sxe & RO. u better off shut up for the rest of ur life. William chew or wEE both are the same fella. why would i say he hack? becz since dustfever he has been shoeing speed hack, aimbot, knifing every1 around, and a true stalker that has been able to figure my real name and where i worked b4.

If wat u said is true. i would have banned the whole server, most ppl are able to kill me. u go ask, when im not in form i had scores like 5-12. so? i banned them? u better get ur facts right be4 u start accusing. thx.

P/S: Damn sien with u ppl who are ignoring rules and accusing ppl. example of mistakes like tis are: when i begin this game, i run, and din know bout walk. so often ppl got me n i say hack. till i've been informed that its the footstep. so pls get everything u know b4 u start accusing stuff like this.

haha
now i know why last time i play top fragger ppl keep say i am admin
i never been admin there
then one day.... someone came and say
YIHAU U FKin HACKER
U ADMIN SO U DONT GET BAN
ADMIN ALL UR FREN

i am like -.-??????
when i become admin there

lol
kids nowadays
watch too much tv
their brain donno isi wat

I'm biased? Don't make me laugh pls. I don't even care my real life fren playing in my server without using sXe. Once they suspect hacking i straight voteban. Pls think using ur brain not ur ass. I bet u dint read through everything post here. Don't jump to conclusion with ur childish way of thinking.

As u said,



Sxe-injected can just reduce some noob hackers, u know what that means? Some noob hackers just know how to use those hack but dunno how to bypass sxe-injection. If they're good enough, they will search on9 for help or they did it by themselves. Then we hv to spec them if they suspect hacking although they using sxe. Btw, next time say what is ur IGN before u start flaming here. Thats only show how coward u're when u flaming here abt what u think and we don't even know who u are.

Even if i find out either 1 of my admin hacking, i'll remove their admin access and ban them. If our wrong, we will admit it. Thats how we do our job.



Yes, they're our frens. Online Cs frens. We already know each other long time ago and each of them hv their own skills. I won't find any hackers to be admin in my server. Honestly, i think u're more worst than a noob. I don't even know what kind of rank to give u other than that. U guys don't even think what we doing everyday. I'm the host & admin for AMCG, i hv to keep the server stable, check on the players & admins, and provide updates so that to make the game play more fun. All is because for u guys to play in a public server in Malaysia. If u wan to still complain here, i advice u to don't play in AMCG.

how would u know your online friends arent hackers. unless u played with them in real life.

wouldnt know a good player from a hacker online.

I played with them at CC, we have clan matches summore. Thats why i trust them.

Lol , i hack? I didnt know I was dat good man. Thanks for the compliments. And by the way kid, wads ur IGN in AMCG? show ur real nick before flaming so dat I can talk with you one on one in the server(to other flamers too). Dun go hiding behind a random nick and flame us here. It is totally useless. From your conclusion made, I can tell that you are not an experienced CS player. You can ask players in AMCG whether I will ask them for any hackers suspected and do a spec-check before confirming a hacker anot. Go ask any of them. Do not judge us just because we banned ur frens , cousins , family , brother, brother-in-law , sister-in-law , etc. etc. If we ban someone , we will do a discussion with each other before really confirming the hacker. We dont feel good by wrongly banning a real skilled player. And by discussing , the banned victim is for sure a hacker. Let me ask you a question ? How much time do u spend to do a research on hackers per day? The admins that was chosen by Flame are experienced players and have been thru CS gaming for quite some time. Yes , we might not be perfect but for the admins and players I know out there are not sore losers as wad u described. We might make a few mistakes from time to time , but without mistakes , how can we learn? Please bare with us and if you are not satisfied , leave ur IGN in AMCG so dat we can talk as gentlemens. Wanna play in AMCG , follow its rules, not happy? Leave the server, there are many other players that will thank you for giving up your slot because AMCG is always fully-booked. =)

i have been playing with those ppl that named above
sometime i kill alot but death about less than 5
mean i hack too?

-whitecomet-
for those tat know me
dont tell me u guys dunno who am i?

I know u whitecomet but u still not using sXe. So we hv to be fair. If u think sXe will lag ur pc/laptop, how abt AMCG admins? We all using sXe to play and how do we feel?

must sxe meh???
pc abit slow... my pc not tat high end
will try to use lor
sorry taikor flamehaze

Hi, there. I'm one of the Avex Networks business partner. I found out recently that this topic on AMCG hosted by Avex Networks is starting to turn into a pure flaming topic instead of a discussion topic.

@vantilica

I do hope you can calm down and try to settle things the good way. I have my own server to manage myself (not a CS server obviously) which is under Avex Networks also and I admit that sometimes admins might have accidentally banned some players which are not hacking. We are truly sorry for this, but I hope all the players also keep in mind that the admins are human too. Yes, God gave us eyes and experience to differentiate the hackers and non-hackers. But you've forgotten one thing, God doesn't made us perfect, that is why we might made mistakes.

As for those without sXe, I'll suggest you all just keep quiet and play since the main rule of AMCG is to have sXe installed. If you don't even bother to use it, we won't bother to explain to you why your account gets banned. There is no reasoning to this, it's just our rule, so please, just obey the rule if you guys wish to play in AMCG. As for sXe using up virtual memory and decreasing pc performance, the only thing I'll suggest is to, of course, get yourself a new pc.


@SMRY

The AMCG admins are hackers? Are you drunk or something? FlameHaze played with most of them real life in cybercafes. He knows they don't even have to hack to own a bunch of noobs in the server. We don't really want to know how pro you guys are in bypassing sXe or some crap you guys think you are good at, we just set the rule so that every player must be using sXe. Don't like it? You can leave anytime, try looking for some other servers with better admins and lower ping, if you can find any.

I know that all of the admins in AMCG are working hard for the server without getting ANYTHING in return. Thanks to them we are able to grow and expand, and what the players did for them? Flaming them, accusing them, is that how you guys show your gratitude? Seriously if I was the AMCG admin, I would've banged my head on the wall. I really have no comment for other childish flaming in this topic since everyone will just be wasting their time here, typing their ass off.

Final note for AMCG players, follow the rules, be polite, or simply get the **** out.

I agree with most of the points you brought up Puddings. Flame and me slept late, got migraines porting the Windows server -> Linux to ensure the best performance for the server and the players but everyone here only likes to complain about how everything sh*tty that happens ingame to them is the fault of the Admins. Not to mention the countless times I've driven from home to Cyberjaya (35km+ one way) with Flame and Puddings just to settle issues with TMnet about the network.

I'm going to point out that once again, most bans are performed automatically by the server itself. It's the price of having a server running both Realite HLGuard and sXe. Occasionally its an admin -- but isn't there a more logical and mature approach to settle the issue? You've seen their nicks on the forum here (the other admins), Flame's nick.. you can just PM them quietly and ask for a ban removal (which we do nearly all of the time as long as the players are nice and explain things clearly).

But instead, people tend to flame and belittle other players simply because this is a forum where you are somewhat anonymous. You wouldn't exactly stand up and start shouting at everyone in the room if you were playing at a cybercafe like FTZ or Blitz and got booted from the LAN server would you?

oh
one more thing
sometime u might get error and get boot out of game

IT WASNT ME WHO KICKED U OUT ( i kena error also)

please stop blaming me when u join back

Wow! Lots of flaming going on here. From what I am seeing here, looks like the admin team getting alot stick. Anyway, I do not think that any of the admins are hacking at all. Just spec them and you will find out.

I have seen HiCal playing even before this server at servers like kogur3 server last time. Always 1 of the top fraggers.

Anyway, writing here not abt this but just to give some suggestions. IMHO, might want to remove the skins that were added on recently for the DE, USP and others since the feel just is not the same. Not sure if it is just me but feels like drawing out my AWP seems faster with the new skins also.

Also, if possible might want to remove the shaking that happens when hit by a HE grenade. It's CS1.6 and not Source, just does not feel the same.

Just wanted to share this but ultimately of course is up to you owners and admins to decide. Old schools CSers might agree. Hehe.

All in all, good job for making such a low latency server. Thanks!

Btw, IGN is R.

woot.. pudding oso come in here @.@ .

yea, the autokick bug or watever, wasnt us, read the console b4 u say we kick you ^^

nah i wasnt talking about admins.

i was talking about high profile players with sxe and have the scent of a hacker.
i know well enough to watch ppl... and i dun blame TOP ppl being a hacker.. i see those with unusual style of playing..
lets say from a noob suddenly killing a lot.. okat might be luck.. but continue on for like few rounds.. eh lucky?
so i watched until few maps then only i complain..
however...
the problem is when ppl complain about me.. the action was so fast like say 1 round already get kick zzz...
but when i complaint, it was like 3 days? or the fastest would be like 4 maps?
i dare to say sxe users are also bound to hacking...
since hackers can by pass sxe easily as long there is a breach to the nearest version

say like latest hack is 5.6 yet now is 5.8.. all they need to change is certain things to read 5.8 and by pass it..

well enough of the explanation..
i am just questioning y does when i get and i dun use sxe because latest version lagged me out as i said in previous post i got kick.. and y does ppl who get top with sxe wasnt suspected.. even when they were like killing far more crazy having hs while dun even aim that properly.. specially awpers... just because they have sxe..

so, the question is..
why must only we suspect non sxe user than sxe user?
arent they both human and players?
just because they are on sxe, they get ignored if they hacked?
and does even any one see properly whether i really hacked?

i get high score because 1st round win pistol.. second round i bought ak or m16 with larger power and killed most enemies who is still with hand guns..
the server is 15/v 15...
if 1st round kill 5
second kill 8

8+5 = 13 die 0..
isnt hacking ...
i take the opportunity to kill them while they are still weak so the rest of the round MY TEAM can SCORE more !
go to cyber cafes who practiced matches every day.. they too use the same concept.
zzz even i learned it from them.
i know some must have joined wcg and got their name as wcg player..
theres no such thing as wcg player as being better the non wcg player.
i can just pay for the form and win 1 match i would be called a wcg player too...

DUDES! ITS STRATEGY TO GET HIGHER FRAG AND FINANCIAL AID!
cs isnt just about aiming and shooting at all, sometimes plan are needed if u wanna win.. but for the sake of fun it wasnt really used. but some how i used it unknowingly it would caused me to be kicked.. maybe i played too many matches that it got embedded in my playing style. zzz

@pudding
yes god dint make us perfect but we must make sure to use our eyes which was given by god perfectly NOT covering 1 eyes as u are trying to defy his powers if u do so.
the best thing was to watch and learn... unless some egoist person that claim "he is no better than me so, i dun bother to watch thus i dun need to pay attention" is just weird.

i can differentiate hackers and non hackers by their gesture, body language, play style, and even actions..
i wanst saying i was like 100% sure he was hackign for the first time but instead i tortured them 1st making them used it at full power to prove i was right then only i complain.
if they still stick the same.. then i was wrong.. and dint complaint anything..
i wouldnt complain if he was just better than me.. any one could be better than me..
and i always observe ppl whether they are better or not... incase of hacker of course u might see those better than u..

so the judgement wasnt made because i was killed by them but rather trough watching, learning and observing the criteria i mention above..
i am still learning how to spot the new improved hacks which is damn hard to see.. but one thing human nvr escapes from habits..
so i can use my eyes to study their habits from time to time and adjust my play accordingly...

well i am not exactly saying that they closed 1 eyes, but thing.. many ppl complained i hacked becuase i get top position in the matter of 3 minutes..
who would be satisfied?
plus most of the admins know i dun hack in game at all ... i usually get top because i used the same strategy just they have no sense to know whats going around and blame like a stray cat...
the main thing was



@beefburgers
well i wouldnt be sure that no admin would not hack in their server putting aside specific servers i mena in general some servers that i have played have this mental issue that they must not be defeated.
btw, i do agree about removing certain mods... its really weird to see cs 1.6 with weird actions..
the feel to play is ruined..

@rizvanrp
being protected by SXE and Realguard doesnt mean ur server is 100% proof hack..
even top fragger when it was on sxe some have breach that anti cheat system..
all i know this anti-hack system scans for script, aliasess and injected files..
if i were to use kernel or dll base hacks its so easy it wont detect a thing since its just like when u replace cs skin witha custom skin.

i wasnt hacking, blamed hacking because no sxe,
and i was playing there like alot, and yet I STILL AM BEING ACCUSED? y dint they accused ppl who always get top faster then me?
all i get top was 1 map 1 SINGLE MAP FOR 3 MINUTES YET I WAS ACCUSED ZZZZ
i wasnt going to be top forever... its just the matter of time when ppl get aks,m16 my death will go up.. zzz
next i think the other reason i was blamed.. i ran too fast i reached CT based from T based when they just half way..

explanation..:
i buy guns while i was moving...
i dun daydream and buy bullets till 90 i bought gun and kevlar and straight away rush... while ppl busy throwing FLASH BANG i shot them .. hack?
THEY LET THEIR GUARD DOWN... BLAME ME HACK SOME MORE?!
bunch of retards.
later when ppl really hack all say " AWSOME! PRO"
yeah right..zzz

conclusion:
nvr let your guard down on hackers
always remember HACKs Updates are always 2 steps a head then anti-hack system.
the release of 1 anti hacksystem contributes to 2 new hacks every day.

a little edit:
for sxe.. i think i know y it lags for some pc.
my pc is core 2 duo, 2gb hyperx ddr2 800mhz ram, GTX9800top edition it still lags
maybe due to win vista... i used sxe on xp its was okay..
maybe some version of vista has a problem..
or some xp sp3 has a problem?

Waterz - Did you close a blind eye when Kenaris countless of times went in using fake IGN, dominated the game and got like 50-12, and then he says "hey waterz, im kenaris" then leaves?? id like to hear ur views on that...

Anyways, I dont want to argue, Im still banned, so if you clear the steam ID ban list I can come in, and maybe i'll have a chat with u guys.

But my main concern/resaon for posting is because:

- there are alot of hackers (kenaris, royal, immortal) and admins close a blind eye when they get like high scores, and then if a guy comes in and kills yihua and 3 more other ppl, they next round they get banned.

- admins hack (yes, dont deny it), and yet they ban people who hack....


I dont care what you guys say, all I have to say is that i know admins hack, its obvious...after all, if kenaris managed to go undectected till he reach like 50-10 by PRETENDING not to hack, the admins also do it is very easy to pretend not to have wallhack. i see kenaris do it all the time. when i say he hack, no one listens.. close one eye... even I know how to pretend, and i know the admins pretend very well to conceal their wallhack, like how kenaris does.

@vantilica

When I said 'It's the price of having a server running both Realite HLGuard and sXe.', I didn't mean it in a way that our server is hack proof. I said it so people would know that sXe and Realite HLGuard are buggy pieces of software and they automatically kick + ban players for no reason at all.

Regarding the security of these homemade anticheat systems, I couldn't agree with you more. Anyone could bypass sXe if they wanted to, would just be a matter of unpacking it and NOP-ing the calls to the checking routine while keeping the handshake intact wouldn't it? Why resort to using kernel level hacks :S About DLL based hacks, I'm pretty sure sXe checks the memory structure of the process and would be able to find codecaves or injected DLLs.

The reason why we ask players to keep sXe running if they can is to avoid false accusations and abrupt votekicks -- I cancel /votekick's on sXe users and then proceed to spectate them to see if they're hacking. We've come across many players with the sXe anticheat bypass.

The problem at the moment is that the players don't trust the admins themselves, the ones Flame has played with himself in matches and trusts. So I ask you, if you can't trust the admins who can you trust to take proper action ingame?

1st of all i came in when kenariss has a score of 40+ -9,so, when i see's him playing kinda fake, and u guys had been complaining.. i simply ask him to get sxe, he says ok. by the next tound, he says "hey im kenaris" and drop the game. what am i suppose to do? go to his house and say if u did that once again imma burn ur home? i know which 1 u were talking about becz that gives me memoriesor more like a total insult of my whole cs time, thats why now i would spec any new ign or players that have been really good when i did not know where they come from.

2nd, wat makes u think hackers in ur eyes are hackers to other ppl ? u might have been lacked of experience from playing cs. in case u did not know, there are ppl who have been playing cs for 6 years. how long did u play? becz m not sa experienced as them i took longer time to spec n differentiate. when i couldnt, i would jz ask for help. ask flame, be4 this when the server started, ther's oni a few admin around. i keep asking him to come in spec when i cant differentiate hackers or real skilled.

3rd, u dun really understand dont u? if admin were hackers, why is there any1 playing in the server? i would love u to explain that to me. players hacking, whole bunch of ppl arent playing, wat makes admin hack, players all coming in till no slot and some ask me to kick afk-er or lagger? which i always rejected them becz we hardly had any laggers and afk-ers are being kick automatically.

There are ppl playing with hacks all the time and so they gain the experience on how to do it. Admins are being chosen to do the job when they are being trusted. i had join matches with flame, thought not many times, yet he can sees how i play.
Why dont u come out and have a match with us?

Oh BTW, din we ask u to inform us ur IGN so that we can talk bout this? u keep on complaining and blaming yet u're being a coward secretly hiding behind and keeps flaming.

U don't have to call me like this, it just indirect flaming me. I using some Acer Aspire 5560 laptop, not really good spec also. Can throw dog if i want to.



I don't care u play match or what, we do play clan matches also. Everyone have their own skills and they way of thinking. They react according to their own thoughts, predictions, and the habit of ur opponent. We just keep on eye on those players without using sxe. For those using sxe with high kills also will get spec by the admins. We consider to open a forum for CS but it seems better not to. Pls understand the situation, this is NON STEAM SERVER. It is hard to prevent hackers but the admins did their best to maintain the server game play. Try to think what if i change AMCG to Steam server. Where u guys going to play? Many players asked me to open sxe in require mode or make it to steam server but i refuse to. This a small thing and u wan to post a lot of kind of things here? Or do u wan me to enable the plugin which make all players without sxe can only use knife? U try search for other server better than this. See how they do their work.

Use windows xp is the best for gaming. Vista will only lag urself.




eii, i was talking to u. I'm the one who u going to reply. Don't dare ? I straight to the point now, Talk with someone like u, i won't be kind anymore. Admins hack? SMRY, DO U THINK WE NEED HACK TO KILL U? What we just said u also don't even understand. Next time before u post something here, identify urself and don't hide like a coward. Other than that, of course we ban those who're really hacking. Admins hack? Where is ur proof? No proof? U have nothing to support ur point. As i said, i find admins who're experience and not a moderate or noob players. Most of the time u see them hv high kills less death = hacking?



If u really dun care, leave AMCG so that other players can have ur slot. We don't need someone like u. What we need is loyal & fair players.




Next time reply me 1st before u reply other people. I'm someone who in charge here. I'm the guy u should reply. Remember that !

well,this server is one of my only few entertainment source
overall its quite a fun server to me thou....keep it up
p/s: yihau noob hacker hack green balls at msn

Welcome to AMCG ~ Ignore some of the post here, it just wasting ur time reading it >"< Anyway, enjoy ur stay here ^^

well if they react on the habits of mine which is same as what i played in the rest of the game its just SO weird...
i have played like 2 maps with them yet only when i became top for the 1st 3 minutes i was accused.
further more the admin knows that i dun hack and i explained y i dun on it..
yet when i explained i was hammered by the sentence "he just wanna hack"

btu when it comes to some1 elese i dun see any 1 complaining?
even if its a real hacker.

i am not trying to say the server does not need sxe..
even with sxe the server is still easy to be hacked. since version 5.3 it was already being breach.
so its rather pointless to have 1.. just that it helps a bit... to reduce the numbers of ppl hacking.

thats y i am bit disapointed in the way i was being justified...
to me it just shows that every player that become top
are just hackers to those ppl..

if they knew it was a strategy or my way of playing..
they could have just said
he wouldnt hack,
nah he plays like that,
normal lar that style,
or the easiest thing,
no lah... he played often here nvr see him do anything related to hacking...

but the otherwise happened so it just mean they do not know anything at all about players in the game for as long
as the players have played there.

If u dun hack, then just on ur sxe. Although its kindda pointless but at least u follow the rules in AMCG. We don't really care the sxe is already breach or anything, u also must on the sxe even thought u're not hacking. If u continue like this, don't complain anymore if u get ban. Don't think only in ur point of view.

Flame you want my reply? Look if i give you my IGN, lets say it is "SMRY", then when I go into the server = instant ban.

So no, i wont give u my IGN.

Can I ask you something? There are alot of times when kenaris/royal/immortal comes in, fakes their wallhack, and pretend not to hack. How do i know you are not doing the same?

For your info, my point is -- it is very easy to pretend not to wallhack, and bypassing sxe is very very easy. And yet you are ignoring the fact that sxe ppl do hack. Go spectate them. Dont just cancel the /votekick on them.

I can pretend to not to hack, but actually having a hack -- its okay, you admins know how to pretend, i do, kenaris/immortal/royal knows how too, in the end, everone hacks but i hate it how admins hack, but dont ban hackers.

You keep denying hacking, its fine, i dont care, no one would openly write "Ok SMRY, you nailed it!! we hack!! sorry!"

My point is, where is the proof u guys dont hack? There is no proof? Dont give me this laptop bringing rubbish meet up because that will never happen.

AND CAN YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT FF. remove FF, there are so many team killers, I got team killed (rarely) and damanged alot of times by someone (often) on purpose.

waterz, i think u r lying, this is what I recall:
- We are playing in awp_india
- Suddenly hacker comes in and was walling
- You where playing with no sxe for like quite something, and you didnt just join in
- halfway while the game is running, you are still alive, and you remove the sxe tag for 30 secs which logs you in as admin. the [nosxe] tag didnt reappear on you for 30 seconds, i myself know that is impossible, you ban the hacker then put it back on. [b]This proves you can fake sxe
- you ban the hacker, then put on no sxe tag.

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Added on July 4, 2008, 8:13 pmflame - do you realise that it is easy to get sxe bypass? i even have one myself.

so basically, if a sxe person comes in and gets like 15-1, no one suspects him. if the no sxe person comes in, plays excately the same and gets 15-1, ppl say the no sxe guy is hacker. this is how shallow people's minds are on counterstrike

awp_india. i did not recall on that dude. anyhow wat do u mean bringing my laptop meet up would nv happened? i dare u to come on august event at low yat. anyway, if u're so unsatisfied with the server, you can jz dont join it.

I had enough of this rubbish u're trying to put in. if u are so retard and keep with ur thoughts. go ahead with it. u doesnt enjoy the stuff, many ppl does.

Since u doesnt wanna tell ur IGN, meaning u wanted to continue playing. and why would any1 like u which is so unsatisfied with the server wanna keep ur ign to go in n play? might as well go off and find another server.

Enuff said. anywords from u i swear imma meet up and iif u dun dare u will jz stfu.

SMRY , seriously , stop whining like a kid and cry like a baby, we seriously had enuf of this. if u dun like the server , juz leave , i cant believe as an admin , not only need to get rid of hackers but ppl like you too. nuff said. have a nice day.

P/S: or maybe you can go play with bots? bots doesnt hack. =)

there is a new upcoming server in town, so you better watch out.

LOL ! Siu lan sei ngor. Don't u think thats a stupid reply? Royal and immortal so far i see them no hacking, only kenaris does. Din't i just said? I know sxe now can bypass and don't keep complaining admin is hacking. So we wont be saying any sorry or whatever because we don't hack. As i said u don't like here, u can leave. U got instant ban because u're suspect hacking or hacking last time and ur name appear on the previous banlist. What u just said "I wont give u my IGN" means that shows how coward u're because u flame here then u play our server using some other nicks. I won't cancelvote kick if the reason is reasonable. Btw, we don't have to pretend when we're playing, since u don't trust us go play with bots like Tetsujin said. FF cannot be off, tkers will be punish by ATAC and if someone do that on purpose just /votekick or tell the admins.



This is my don't know how many times already, i said for those player without using sxe will have a high chance to get suspect compare to a player with sxe. Ei, u wan me say how many times? Pls READ AND UNDERSTAND.


SMRY i know u hard to leave the stage now. LOL !

Ok, i make a simple choice for u.

If u wan to play here, stop flaming, hacking, thinking like a child, and so on.

If u still wan to do those flaming, hacking and bla bla bla. Just LEAVE !

U know few pages in this post is about ur pointless flaming. The reason we start a post here is to advertise. Any feedbacks send email to me. Lowyat forum moderator see ur post also bored with it.



New server? What name is it? I don't mind to compete with the new server

Wah, server with a forum. The server has been up for so long and now only I realised there is actually a forum for it.. Waterz, yihau, tetek! Why never tell me this forum exists with a lot of whiners in it, I like to entertain whiners because that's basically my only entertainment during college holiday ^____^

This SMRY, who the hell is this retard, talk so much crap yet, still brainless and say hack.

My opinion:

Waterz - Since when does this guy knows how to hack, sometimes he's on form and sometimes he's not. Being an admin is a real pain in the a** because they have to be fair and not kick the wrong person. I harass this guy everytime I login to the server and he doesn't even ban me. Afterall, harrasting someone is worse than playing "HACK".

yihau - I got on the wrong foot with him, my apologies ^__^. This guy totally doesn't know how to hack even if someone gives him a hacking program.

Tetsujin - Not that close to him, but still whenever someone is on form or not during in-game it can be seen.

HiCal - Now this guy is the type where I like the most, challenging and out of his mind. This guy doesn't even need a hacking program to play, I can tell because I've played against this guy in the server for quite some time. And I know this guy tends to do "smelly tricks" but still, it's NOT HACKING.

FlameHaze - This guy has been paying every month just for the sake of
allowing everyone in Malaysia/Singapore to have some entertainment, c'mon give this guy a break. Maybe he has another partner funding it with him but I might now know (I hope his partner doesn't get offended)



SMRY, who the heck are you? And please don't tell me as if I've never played the server. I can say right now I've played the server as long as it was in beta testing because a close friend of mine which is also FlameHaze's friend, gave me the ip to test it out before your sorry ass even realised it existed. Basically I've seen every player there is in the game, I know who are the hackers, I know who are the good ones, and I know who are the IDIOTS.

IGN(In-Game Name) incase you are too retarded to understand the meaning of it from short, tell me, and I believe I can tell you the heck you really are. If you entered the banlist, too bad for you. I know these admins here who are working their ass off just to make everyone's day better, are not some sort of BIAS people.

As for what yihau mentioned, chieng plays from JB and Hical is from KL. OBVIOUSLY THEY AREN't THE SAME PERSON. These two have even appeared in the server TOGETHER, how can 1 person control 2 pc's and walk at the same time and kill. A.I never reach Malaysia yet ok?

If it was Royal talking in the previous posted forums I'd like to give you a nice "middle finger" right to your face anytime. You played without sXe and that was your loss, now you come here and whine?

Immortal is not a hacker, I can verify that. Besides, he's from the same hometown as me. People here come and play whenever we like, because we LOVE it, not play there and come here and b**** like some admin stole your damn candy.

PLEASE GROW UP!!!

Speaking about wallhacking, I don't need to hack and I can do it myself if I wanted to, but I rather do crazy things like bombing Waterz just for the sake of laughter, or shoot yihau in the leg, or block tetsujin and make him die. C'mon man if you played CS as long as I did, 7 years give or take some retirement because of studies. It will be in your INSTINCTS to tell where the opponents are just by listening to the speakers, I'm not talking about the headphones. Headphones are much more accurate and I'm claiming now, speakers are as well and by the looks of your "whining" attitude, you clearly don't know this.

SMRY!! got study or not? went to school and got "BUANG" izit?

To put things to an end here, stop whining like a baby, not a kid but a BABY.

Don't like it? Get lost, nobody will miss you.

READ THIS BEFORE YOU REPLY... can you read or not first?

Don't bring another stupid topic, maybe you can't read you whine to your friend and ask him to write it for you.. NEVER STUDY AH???

THINK BEFORE YOU ACT! the only cheater existing is YOU.

Give all of us a "BREAK"

I'm famous inside the server, so get lost if you don't even know who I am. Narrowminded garbage of society.

Zhentil @ HeCate

Wao ! Hecate u write an essay here @@" Is hard to make players understand us, they don't even trust admin. Speechless adi. Anyway enjoy ur stay here ^^

i've already explained why i dint on sxe to them, this is totaly weird..
I explained SXE 5.7 AND 5.8 IS lagging me OUT! SO i cant on IT!
Whats so hard of understanding that sentence?
this lag doesnt occur to every one in the server.. only some which i dun understand why .. ive dled other version until 5.6 its all okay but for the latest its totaly weird.

maybe its just that so i quit on it, rejoin middle of the game and cant get my scores back.. and when that happens ppl will eventually just say
"see he on sxe cant kill many any more"
of course i cnat kill as many as before. i jkust started with a handgun like the 1st 2 rounds when i go killing them. second when any one lag how do u play at 100% performance?
the most u can squeeze out is 80% 20% is taken into account that the graphic slows u down, the aiming is off because ppl are faster, and reactions slows down due to the effect of the 2 reasons above..
i wish to see how would they play if they lag out like i do.

perfect plan..
after being said i cant on sxe because it lags me out for some reason on my pc.
ive tried vista,xp sp3 and xp sp2 they still lag me out making me running like a robot and seeing ppl teleporting here and there... it JAMS the graphic speed..
and when shooting the recoil doesn't revert back as usual ... making it a little hard to estimate where the bullets are.
There fore i explained i cant on it due to it lags me out.. yet still no one believes. i am waiting for 5.9 see if lags.. for me it isn't any trouble to dled the sxe perhaps its good... BUT it doesn't help my gaming experience when it lags.. i rather play with out it if it lags me out.

i explained 3,4 times, yet none believes,
i know they dun suffer the same thing as i do, but come on the ppl who knows about me should already know that i am telling the truth even if they dun believe the sxe part .. they should know about me not hacking or doing anything associate to hacking.
plus y do i need to hack, the ones i killed mostly are turtles, i nvr killed fast players like immortal, or the admins as many as i killed those who are so slow day dreaming 24/7... although i do kill them BUT not like every round zzz

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where do i get this sXe? I scare later kena ban when other accuse me of hacking. BTW, my nick would be Lord.Intrigue.the.Great.Johore

btw, whats that 2 songs that is played during the loading part?

@razie92

Hi razie92 , this server is well known for its low latency although supporting 15 v 15 players. So far , I can only see you and a few complaining. I am sorry to say that maybe it could be your hardware problem or lack of memory same goes with other victims. The plugins in the server are suppose to make the gameplay interesting, like all other pub-servers, they have their own plugins just like the server's own trait. Every server has their own traits. Well the plugins in AMCG are the ones keeping the server alive. =) It's not like we're playing clan match or sumthing, well just my 2cents on pub-servers. About the lagness you are suffering , let's see whether Flame can help you with that or not. Flame? =p Thanks for your feedback razie92.



@Lord.Intrigue

Hi Lord, I dun think I heard your nick before in the server, maybe ur using sum other nicks? Lol...Btw , to get sXe,
first , visit this website at www.sxe-injected.com , download the client sxe <current version: EG; 5.7 , 5.8> .

After downloading the RAR file , unzip it , you should be able to see an installer. Use the installer to install sXe into your computer, after that, there should be an sXe icon on your desktop. Double click the icon as in running the program and minimize it. The update button is not functioning well so , do not touch it. After minimizing, run your CS as usual. That's all. Hope I've helped you in this.

P/S: Make sure the version of your sxe is same with the server's and one more thing , we as admins, WON'T simply ban without doing any investigation first. The investigation process that we undergo is far beyond your imagination detailed kind of investigation. =) As I've said before , we really pantang mistakenly banning real players instead of hackers. So , don't worry as long as you are not using any 3rd party programs to aid you in battle. You are safe. Do not attempt to use any either. Play hard , go pro. Good luck and have fun playing in the server.

Regards,
Tetsujin

Flame is being flamed

Kucin itam , dah mai. Udahla tuu. =p

well of course it is a hardware problem considering it's a slow computer i am using. the point is, other servers, though they have a few mods and plugins here and there, don't lag my computer as much as amcg does. removing some plugins wont affect the gameplay (which is currently a bit annoying), plus it would also benefit players with slow computers out there like me lol

please take my request into consideration



UltimateDustFever and Top Fragger had no such plugins and yet they were popular those days.

server down ?suddenly stuck cant play

yeah

Vantilica, we feel the same as u when using sXe but we have no choice. If u have some idea to prevent hackers, u may speak out. I'll see what i can do with it and windows xp 1 or 2 is the best for gaming already so far. I also don't really want to use sXe, i lag when it begin new round and sometimes get interception error. Stay with us until sXe-injection updates and see whether can prevent hackers onot. If still can be breach then i'll remove it.




Tetsujin already tell u how to get it, the 2 loading songs name are "Walking in the sun" and "Sound of my dream".




Yes, i did so many thing and this how they treat the host.




That both server become popular because they're big servers which can support 32players. Is not that their plugin affect the "Popular" of the server. They also have pro players, thats why they play there. I already remove unnecessary plugins, the glock, usp and mp5 mod i change it because i want to encourage players to use other guns. If not the whole server will only have m4a1, ak47 and awp. I wont change the game play stuff but i add some plugin to make the game play more realistic and fun. Btw, i don't care which server is coming soon or whatever. I never scare of other servers.




Server down for a moment only, now is up again. It will auto restart back if the server goes down. Don't worry ^^ Enjoy ur stay here ~

Tell you what, how bout we just set a maintenance period every day to reset the banlist so everyone who is auto-banned or kicked by an admin can come back in and prove his worth?

Regarding a new server, I doubt they would be able to host a non-steam-only server without such accusations like the ones we're facing. If there were none, I assume that there would be no admins online. Good luck to you~

I would like to notify one thing to our dear players, if there is a server downtime, do not worry coz the server will auto restart and u can rejoin after a moment, try not to post here stating so. =) Have fun. Cheers~

[quote=Tetsujin,Jul 5 2008, 04:52 PM]
you'll know soon enough

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@razie92

Hi razie92 , this server is well known for its low latency although supporting 15 v 15 players. So far , I can only see you and a few complaining. I am sorry to say that maybe it could be your hardware problem or lack of memory same goes with other victims. The plugins in the server are suppose to make the gameplay interesting, like all other pub-servers, they have their own plugins just like the server's own trait. Every server has their own traits. Well the plugins in AMCG are the ones keeping the server alive. =) It's not like we're playing clan match or sumthing, well just my 2cents on pub-servers. About the lagness you are suffering , let's see whether Flame can help you with that or not. Flame? =p Thanks for your feedback razie92.
@Lord.Intrigue

Hi Lord, I dun think I heard your nick before in the server, maybe ur using sum other nicks? Lol...Btw , to get sXe,
first , visit this website at www.sxe-injected.com , download the client sxe <current version: EG; 5.7 , 5.8> .

After downloading the RAR file , unzip it , you should be able to see an installer. Use the installer to install sXe into your computer, after that, there should be an sXe icon on your desktop. Double click the icon as in running the program and minimize it. The update button is not functioning well so , do not touch it. After minimizing, run your CS as usual. That's all. Hope I've helped you in this.

P/S: Make sure the version of your sxe is same with the server's and one more thing , we as admins, WON'T simply ban without doing any investigation first. The investigation process that we undergo is far beyond your imagination detailed kind of investigation. =) As I've said before , we really pantang mistakenly banning real players instead of hackers. So , don't worry as long as you are not using any 3rd party programs to aid you in battle. You are safe. Do not attempt to use any either. Play hard , go pro. Good luck and have fun playing in the server.

Regards,
Tetsujin

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Thanks for the info. This is my first time playing in this server. Previously i was mostly in SG server. But lately, MY to SG line sux to the max so seeking other local server

Sure , I do hope you have fun in the server! =) Enjoy your stay! =p Any problems , you can just notify any admins online. If u really nid help , you can add my msn : douluvgod@hotmail.com

Cheers~

Regards,
Tetsujin

Regarding that sXe(sexy) patch, there were troubles for me but only a few versions gave me trouble, thats why I complained a lot because of the new versions.. 5.2 was the best so far, 5.7 really crashed the hell out of my pc, and 5.8 performs just fine..

Even with 5.8, my pc lagged at first until I tweaked something in the c-drive (not telling ya how ) now my CS runs smoothly.. maybe it is the patch which comes without warranty, or some settings in your pc needs to be changed, I've got no idea about the normal pc's sorry about that.

I know my pc specs were suppose to be unable to cause lag. I couldn't accept my pc will lag because of some patch with no warranty, til I asked an IT friend about it and BOOYAH!

just a fyi, my pc specs are:

Intel Q6600 processor(standard), 3gb ram(standard kingston), asus striker extreme 2, dual nvidia 8800GT.... windows xp pro sp2.. obviously it can never lag and it cost me a bundle... thanks to gay ass sXe it pwned it until i rescued it... thats right! I LANCI U... tata ^^

how come i'm unable to join? After it verifying and download the resources.. then it will just jump out to windows. It doesn't happen on other server though. I've just got sXe 5.8 installed