Thinking of buy a new camcorder, need advice from u all

a. tape

b. DVDRW

c. HDD

d. memory card builtin?

which one more power saving?

how much is the media & how long time can record under best resolution?

a. tape

b. DVDRW (dual layer)

c. HDD (can change? )

d. memory card builtin (can add? )

Hey! U forgot the hybrid

is it builtin memory type?

i saw on newspaper that day, kinda confuse...

i'm using a hdd camcorder

samples can be obtain from here: http://www.youtube.com/user/dgrebel86

i'm quite satisfied with it, it's a 30gb model but until now still not full eventhough a 10minute clips renders around 365mb already (with good AQ and IQ), and totally WYSIWYG type of camcorder with no visible artifacts or motion distortion when moved around very quickly

you record video directly onto a hard disk installed in the camcorder. This same hard disk is used throughout the life of the camcorder, so you never need to pay for new tapes or disks.

u can also shoot chapters by chapters and then combine them with the supplied software. and no, upgrades of the hdd is not feasible because it's fixed to the camcorder

here's my JVC hdd camcorder, not bulky and just nice to hold (unlike the flimsy P&S camera with movie recording feature)


OH an addition to it, it's a hybrid too. it accepts SD memory card as extendable memory.

is this d model selling thousand over now?

i do think it's discontinued already since i got this end of 2005 for almost 4k.

i think d best choice for nowadays use is hdd type camcorder.... although u can see on d spec is only 40gb but u shud remind urself bout d automatic compression by d camcorder itself through some call AVCHD... 40gb can record almost 40h +/- of video so u can see d pros theres...u dun need to carry alot of tape or dvd along with u anymore... and the process of editing become easier since it can be connect to ur computer by USB just like dat.....
i suggest that if u do wan to buy camcorder, u shud start searching on d internet..... n d best thing is if u buy it on d internet d price there is much more cheaper than in our country... i'l giv u sum links.....

http://www.cameraddict.com/

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/11863/C...Camcorders.html

where is that website from?

Go for the ones that can record in avi or mpg or vob etc. formats (no need conversion) .... straight burn to dvd, for divx players.

MiniDV = l33t

what camcorder? get this la....

Sony HVR-Z1P

DVD's don't last too long under most environmental conditions due to the thin data layer.

Tapes are great and bloody reliable, i have 20 year old tapes that still work, but the problem is that you have to FF and RW to move around and that's pretty annoying in my opinion. Random access = No good.

HDDs and SSDs presents the best balance in my view, they're long term stable, especially SSDs, and they're faster than anything out there. With HDD and SSD capacity going up so fast these days, you're pretty much spoiled for choice.

alamak.. apa la pulak brader ni nak beli pasni?

Food and Clothing.....Maybe

Seriously spent too much on camera and toys already. I usually settle down once i've reached the top of the line , for example my HD650 is 3 years old and still with me, i find no need to upgrade because i've reached a quality level i can "settle" into.

get a crew of people, a van then go take kisah benar

this unit cost $$$$$.$$

ait... sori for d late reply... d website is from US.... they had a low price for d latest camcorder u wish..... compare to malaysia they are really really cheap...... sum had RM1K+ price different..... but lately i been searching on d net... they said the cameraaddict.com is a scam sites... so if u do wan to buy online pls check or go to resellerrating.com or sumtin like dat to know if they are just a scam site or a really cheap distributor sites for electronic goods..... ei guyss.... jus wan to ask.... if i had a SONY HDR-HC9 that record a HD on DV tape who wan to buy it from me??? are there a gud 2nd hand market for this HD DV camcorder???

Heard that Mini DV has the best quality among all of them , not sure though.

yup.... the quality is superb compare to HDD and DVD media record.... cuz in MiniDV there are no compression like the new AVCHD format in most those type of camcorder..... compression lowered the quality of video taken.... but the best thing is my SONY HDR-HC9 has a usb port which u can transfer d content of the DV tape straight to computer..... editing is not that hard unlike new camcorder with AVCHD........ High Def MiniDVi can take 63min of HD video while in the regular LP format about 93min....

High Def & normal DVD wat different?

the different is recording format..... some dvd camcorder have high def feature some not.... high def record a 1440X1080i..... while full high def record 1920X1080i...... so it depend on camcorder..... usually the normal SD camcorder record 720i if im not mistaken.....

under survey for a camcorder myself...and think Canon fs11 (flash memory) would be a great one...but problem is cant find it in the market. u guys any suggestion where else i should seek for this camcorder? btw, here's the link, appreciate if you guys can share ur opinion on the product
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controll...4&modelid=16183

lms2005-may be this model suite ur requirement too, ave a check? and let me know if u finds it .

Why not go for Canon HF-10? It is also use flash memory.

y dun u choose a HDD base camcorder??? cuz i prefer Canon HG10 more than HF10.... it is d best among all consumer camcorder in d market..... but d look is not as gud as Sony HDR-SR11... in video quality Canon sure better than Sony..... i giv u this link so u can read the review and comparison of the product......

www.camcorderinfo.com

btw, i found ur camcorder on this website...... i think u shud buy this on d net cuz price here sure expensive.....

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5392...brid_Flash.html

Hard disk is fragile and heavier. I think flash memory is the way to go.

lol. dont think so. i dropped numerous times already. its not like normal hard disk. its pretty small and the whole thing fits your palm just nice.

plus, it does support sd card.

heavy? trust me, a dozen goreng pisang is heavier.

i guess since i'm used to the idea of flash memory (handphone, gps,dslr,digicam) dats why i prefer flash rather then hdd. low bat usage & low mechanical movements are the other point of view. but as said, for now i guess its only available online. checked in dxb, but expected to be available in 1 or 2 months (but no price was given). already emailed canon Malaysia but got same reply. btw, i think fs got couple of xtra features compared to hf and the price is not much differ i would believe.

Canon FS does not record high def unlike HF it record high def.... plus d sensor is 1/6 compare to HF is 1/2.9........ this mean d pic quality for HF is much higher than FS...... currently d flash type camcorder still not stable...... ive read several review that said they had memory full error although they just format it..... so think twice before u buy....... as for MyDevil i suggest that u shud read more on camcorder spec u gonna buy.... cuz rite now all d HDD type camcorder hav HDD shock protection which will save ur ass whenever u drop ur camcorder.... to say that HDD camcorder bulky is just unfair..... maybe d bulky is d price of camcorder not d camcorder itself.......

What if the HDD fails? Can it be replaced like notebook? That is my concern as well.

wat u meant by failed??? i dunno wether can be replaced by notebook HDD or not.... dgrebel can or not??

Me just using cheap camcoder
Buy it around RM350.00 ( i Camcoder)
Use SD memory card
Untill now i use it.
If you want to make onboard cam also can.
Easy to mount everywhere

i saw on newspaper. fs11, fs100, fs10... ask 10 shop, 10 say "huh..."

lol. i just make sure i update the warranty every year. but so far never had problem with it. yeah i believe they can replace the notebook.

i think their hdd same as ipod type.. pcmcia size hdd... 40gb cost rm1000.. only can buy from jpn..

perhaps. huhu. this is the intrinsical view of my ipod.

yup, this one of it, there is another type much smaller

Fail like in write error, bad sector etc. It is hard disk afterall.

yup, saw the Canon ads on FS11, HF10 etc. I think it should be available now. I saw Fotokem got sell HF10 as well.

fs100 saw at low yat selling rm2199

fs11 rm2799 but no stock

so expensive.... if buy on internet around 1.8k only..... huhuhu..... i ord order canon HG10 from internet...... had to wait for 5days.... hmmmmm....... lms2005 still haven buy ur camcorder??

Got tax or not?

Yesterday, NST got some articles on camcorder.

i still not yet buy...

are u sure kastam wouldn't "eat" ur cam? waiting ur good news after 5 days

aiyo.... my cousin take law said from 1987 theres no tax for electronic guds except that u buy it in bundle..... if buy one only no tax.... if custom tax u, u tell me.... let me sue them...... ok??? my item ship ord.... yehaaaa..... 4days to go...... countdown moment.......

i didn't said pay tax i mean they won't "eat" ur item?

wat u meant by "eat"??? if they eat my camcorder i ask my uncle to fired the custom whole branch lar...... i have so many links.... wat so hard.....

one shop at sg wang selling fs100 rm1699, fs11 rm2499

these cam really light

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Added on May 16, 2008, 1:11 pmis it HD much clearer than normall dvd quality?

yeahhhh.... alast....... ive got my camcorder edi today morning..... can smell flight smell..... but got custom salotape at the top...... fuk custom cuz open it before me..... huhuhuhu... but then i 55 test my camcorder..... so shiok aa i tell u d first time i hold it..... and then i just drain out the battery and start charging for 8hours...... at first i used d camcorder i feel that my canon hg10 very easy to handle..... also d video quality is extremely gud..... later if got time i post my sample video to u all k........... and if u wanna buy online i recomended to you bhphoto.com cuz they are d best and cheap...... and custom didnt eat my camcorder.... wohooooooooo

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ask u buy from internet loooo..... hf10 USD899..... so cheap that u can buy two at a time...... hohoho......

i've searched amazon.com, they do not ship outside of US.

told u edi....... just bhphoto.com ship outside america la..... ship 4-5days then reached malaysia.... in my case they take 4days to sent to my house in seremban,n9......... so how??

which one u recommend? i want extra long long recording hours

btw how is ur cam?

how to claim warranty?

i recomended bhphoto.com

my cam works great.... today morning outing n took some landscape n beach video...... marvelous on tv but then when i try to transfer it into my laptop the quality lowered automatically..... maybe i need somtime to learn bout d software setting given..... and just came back from sg. wang to buy some accesories and a 1T external hard drive..... hahahaha..... but im so sad cuz i still cant find polarizer for my camcorder..... out of stock they said..... hmmmm.....

d warranty i dunno much..... cuz i ask my cousin to settle it.... but i saw a warranty card inside..... maybe he fill it out n sent it back to US..... later i ask him n tell u rrr.......