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loonz85
The JPJ has announced that it is giving car owners 3 months until the end of July 2008 to remove non-compliant xenon lamps and dark tinting that does not comply with JPJ specifications from their cars.

During the 3 months leading up to the deadline, vehicles caught in violation will be issued a PG1 notice (Notis Larangan Penggunaan), but there will be no compound associated with the notice. To get this notice retracted, the car owner needs to comply with the directive. JPJ director Salim Parlan urges the public to report the number plates of "offending cars" to 03-88866412.

Road Transport Department enforcement director Salim Parlan says the ban will only affect cars retrofitted with HID kits, not cars that come with the system from factory. This is a bit hard to enforce as there are some cars that have two variants, one with HID and one without, how do you enforce this? The Civic 1.8 has normal halogen bulbs while the Civic 2.0 has HID bulbs, the same with the Nissan Latio and our very own Waja R3 MME Edition.

I believe that Xenon headlamps should not be banned, but only certain colour temperatures that pose a hazard to car's own driver should be banned. Some of the higher bluish colour temps can cause fatigue, plus they aren't particularly useful in the rain. Plus, proper alignment of the HID bulb to ensure the shine does not get into the way of other road users should be done.

Some HID users opt for the cheaper HID kits which only have the low beam, so they usually align it somewhere in the middle of low beam and high beam to make up for the lack of a high beam. You should get a proper Bi-Xenon system with both low and high beam, and align them appropriately.

Best is to retrofit a HID kit with a projector lense system into your reflector headlamps because projectors have been designed in such a way that the beam is cut off on the sides, making sure it only shines the path in front of you and does not get into the eyes of the drivers coming from the opposite direction.


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northiswara
most of the people use the cheap HID. damm hate those cheap HID.
F1meteor
good.. now i can call and complain those cars that pissed me off..
kapalterbang_737
ya loh
they use cheap HID hjuz bcoz wanna gaya2 only mad.gif
if want gaya2 shud go for the proper HID
they juz make other drivers suffer from their cheap light sweat.gif
xtorm
using BMW oem with shield... working fine wth nice beam....

the main problem is my headlight is old...i cant adjust the height any more...sad.gif

but true enof, catch they stupid fella with poory fited HID. especially those 8k, 10k bulb even if its ori cos you cant really see the road cleary with those
jimmylim85
I bet HID 4300K colour is not affected right? Cause im going to invest on that.
squalluz
QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Mar 31 2008, 09:31 AM)
I bet HID 4300K colour is not affected right? Cause im going to invest on that.
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riiiiiiight...
Ultima
its still a hid...
-gemini-
ill be camping @ garage sales sniping for them cheap 2nd hand hids. jaja
loonz85
QUOTE(-gemini- @ Mar 31 2008, 10:18 AM)
ill be camping @ garage sales sniping for them cheap 2nd hand hids. jaja
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got checking still wan HID a~~
hahaha~~


bcoz of all ppl using cheap hiddy~~ now kena checking dy~~ @@
-gemini-
Im not gona put them on my headlight
Gon b on my foglight.
Highly doubt tht will be considered posing hazard to other road users as it shines low.
Dont think it produces as much nuisance as bein installed on a headlamp as well (referrin to cheap,beamin high ciplak hids).
andyjyneo
QUOTE(-gemini- @ Mar 31 2008, 10:32 AM)
Im not gona put them on my headlight
Gon b on my foglight.
Highly doubt tht will be considered posing hazard to other road users as it shines low.
Dont think it produces as much nuisance as bein installed on a headlamp as well (referrin to cheap,beamin high ciplak hids).
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i've halogen in my headlamp, and i'll continue to remain my HID on my fog lamp
just switch on my halogen as usual to avoid all this hassle

good, can print this article out and i'll show to JPJ/police when they stop me
wantutrifor5
aiyaaaa.... kena buat tinted baru la plak nampaknya
Beach_Boy
i'll hunt for cheap HIDs for my fog light too brows.gif
im looking for those OEM 3000K HID, still yellow, but much brighter biggrin.gif
j3ffm0n
dam....i wanted to tint my rear window black tim sad.gif
ston3r
woahh.. time to look for 4350k bulbs.. blink.gif
andyjyneo
but useless leh, cannot fix already sad.gif
sonic_cd
QUOTE(ston3r @ Mar 31 2008, 11:02 AM)
woahh.. time to look for 4350k bulbs.. blink.gif
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if they check on the tinting , i am really gonna be screwed .lol doh.gif
ston3r
QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 31 2008, 11:50 AM)
if they check on the tinting , i am really gonna be screwed .lol doh.gif
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same ere as well.. i've only managed to source the rear passenger doors to change back to clear ones... moneyflies.gif

as for the rear windscreen.. i'm just not gonna bother.. also gonna get screwed.. smile.gif
loonz85
how bout if da window is original tinted~~~
also kena a~~@@
ston3r
QUOTE(loonz85 @ Mar 31 2008, 12:12 PM)
how bout if da window is original tinted~~~
also kena a~~@@
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that's exactly what sonic_cd and i were referring to.. ours are JDM spec cars.. which came with factory privacy glass blink.gif
loonz85
should b ntg gua~~
coz my fren change 2 JDM window then kena tahan JPJ~~
he say da window is original~~ then da jpj use pisau n sratch it~~
andyjyneo
QUOTE(loonz85 @ Mar 31 2008, 12:22 PM)
should b ntg gua~~
coz my fren change 2 JDM window then kena tahan JPJ~~
he say da window is original~~ then da jpj use pisau n sratch it~~
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this is what i heard from those traffic police roadblock
they'll use key to scratch your window, then issue you summon on the spot too

however, this reminds me of an incident...
my family bought a 2nd hand 1st gen of CR-V so i sent the car to puspakom for transfer of ownership
the officer said the window is very dark, so he used key to scratch and tear the original vkool to half
holysh*t, i've no choice, but to tear all down
very disgraceful in front of many people
ston3r
sad to know that they are resorting to such tactics.. if they scratch my windscreen... i'd make them pay mad.gif


sonic_cd
QUOTE(loonz85 @ Mar 31 2008, 12:22 PM)
should b ntg gua~~
coz my fren change 2 JDM window then kena tahan JPJ~~
he say da window is original~~ then da jpj use pisau n sratch it~~
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if a small scratch and they say its cause its orginal i don`t mind ... but if kena the dreaded inspection letter .. duno what to do already .lol
ston3r
QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 31 2008, 12:41 PM)
if a small scratch and they say its cause its orginal i don`t mind ... but if kena the dreaded inspection letter .. duno what to do already .lol
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if inspection.. then have to resort to changing the glass back to clear ones.. send it in to inspection.. then once clear.. go back out to the accessories shop.. install back original.. smile.gif
but the hassle.. and i think there could be a compound
wantutrifor5
QUOTE(ston3r @ Mar 31 2008, 12:42 PM)
if inspection.. then have to resort to changing the glass back to clear ones.. send it in to inspection.. then once clear.. go back out to the accessories shop.. install back original.. smile.gif
but the hassle.. and i think there could be a compound
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ya, must change if want to go inspection... my frend do it
sonic_cd
QUOTE(ston3r @ Mar 31 2008, 12:42 PM)
if inspection.. then have to resort to changing the glass back to clear ones.. send it in to inspection.. then once clear.. go back out to the accessories shop.. install back original.. smile.gif
but the hassle.. and i think there could be a compound
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you won`t kena fine or anything , but the cost of changing the to the clear glass ain`t cheap .. heard can reach up to 2k+ rather pay duit kopi like that .lol .. bet this is gonna make alot on controversy in the newspaper again doh.gif
loonz85
i think muz change n kena compound le~~~
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i kena b4 for my scooter~~
tat time i was using metal style no plat~~then kena road block~~
they write letter 2me~~ask me 2 change if dun1 kena saman~~
after i change..i when jpj~~ need 2 pay money for inspection~~
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Gilbert5107
if v-cool tinted also not pass,why v-cool brochure said is approve by jpj?
and is expensive not cheap leh. just scratch by using key den ur $$ bye bye,no warranty
Amedion
So, can't sue them for destroying people's stuff?
loonz85
QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Mar 31 2008, 12:49 PM)
if v-cool tinted also not pass,why v-cool brochure said is approve by jpj?
and is expensive not cheap leh. just scratch by using key den ur $$ bye bye,no warranty
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eh~~
i heard my fren say~~
if they tanggal ur tinted~~ u take picture n go warranty~~they will replace a new for~~ dunno real o not la
sonic_cd
QUOTE(Amedion @ Mar 31 2008, 12:49 PM)
So, can't sue them for destroying people's stuff?
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this ain`t america ... heck maybe we should all go mass complain to the oppopsition party .lol
asmly14
Hmm... if HID is properly tuned and fitted with the right head lamp, why not? As long as it doesn't hurt the eyes, I will always support it.
ston3r
QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 31 2008, 12:49 PM)
you won`t kena fine or anything , but the cost of changing the to the clear glass ain`t cheap .. heard can reach up to 2k+ rather pay duit kopi like that .lol .. bet this is gonna make alot on controversy in the newspaper again doh.gif
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muahhaha.. yes.. it'll be fueling the newspapers that JPJ are taking bribes if it does get out.. hahahha


Added on March 31, 2008, 12:54 pm
QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 31 2008, 12:51 PM)
this ain`t america ... heck maybe we should all go mass complain to the oppopsition party .lol
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yea.. our constitution does not allow that.. we're at their mercy... so can only just vent anger... mad.gif
Naota-kun
only last week i encountered this douchebag with HID lamps adjusted so high, they were blinding me in an Avanza. so u imagine la how high were his lamps.

and u know what car the fool was driving? a Hyundai Accent RX-S. dry.gif knnccb betul doh.gif
sonic_cd
QUOTE(Naota-kun @ Mar 31 2008, 12:56 PM)
only last week i encountered this douchebag with HID lamps adjusted so high, they were blinding me in an Avanza. so u imagine la how high were his lamps.

and u know what car the fool was driving? a Hyundai Accent RX-S.  dry.gif  knnccb betul  doh.gif
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usually it would be the opposite way around .. the accnt mus be tembak bulan i think .lol
wantutrifor5
QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 31 2008, 12:57 PM)
usually it would be the opposite way around .. the accnt mus be tembak bulan i think .lol
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hahahaha.. tembak bulan tongue.gif tongue.gif
ston3r
QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 31 2008, 12:57 PM)
usually it would be the opposite way around .. the accnt mus be tembak bulan i think .lol
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no.. tembak sign board.. ahhahaha
loonz85
QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 31 2008, 12:57 PM)
usually it would be the opposite way around .. the accnt mus be tembak bulan i think .lol
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mayb da owner cannot drive at nite time~~so need a HID 2 shot far far~~
Amedion
QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 31 2008, 12:51 PM)
this ain`t america ... heck maybe we should all go mass complain to the oppopsition party .lol
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Haiz.. Malaysia is government rules..
Maybe that's the way they earn money to feed their staff with coffee's powder..
Seen many dato dato tint their car 100% black also no problem..
If i am police.. I go scratch all 4 windows see they angry or not.. Then next day can say bye bye to my job already..

In malaysia.. Government no brain.. People say HID can blind people.. Then they wan be the nice guy.. Ban HID..
HID blind people becoz those are cheap and installed by unprofessional people.. If they do research properly.. Any light also can blind when shoot directly to ur face..
HID can save life.. Many old car's headlight is not very bright.. Not like those round shape light which is bright.. Example kelisa, atoz, kenari, myvi, etc..
More over malaysia's road many potholes, no road lamp, etc... Thanks to JKR ( Jangan Kerja Rajin )..

Proton seriously overpriced with its quality.. One bang at 80km/h on other car.. Sure KO.. People die in accident becoz Proton kills... Somemore government support it .. Raise Overseas car at least 300% tax duty..

Conclusion :-
Malaysia : Nice country & peace
Government : Sux to the max, stupid, brainless, etc..
cky6667
haha...amedion...u r rite....if v use projector with HID,aso kena banned...haih....
sonic_cd
QUOTE(cky6667 @ Mar 31 2008, 01:03 PM)
haha...amedion...u r rite....if v use projector with HID,aso kena banned...haih....
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like that proton waja also banned (there`s a version with hid right ? ) . LOL
loonz85
QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 31 2008, 01:06 PM)
like that proton waja also banned (there`s a version with hid right ? ) . LOL
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haha~~~

btw~~ how bout government car will fully 100% balck tinted~~
y they can put~~
sonic_cd
QUOTE(loonz85 @ Mar 31 2008, 01:08 PM)
haha~~~

btw~~ how bout government car will fully 100% balck tinted~~
y they can put~~
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next time get a picture of the gahmen cars and send to the blogs and newsparties of the double standards they practice . lol .
Amedion
QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Mar 31 2008, 01:12 PM)
next time get a picture of the gahmen cars and send to the blogs and newsparties of the double standards they practice . lol .
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No need .. Just open sunday the star .. main page..

A Huge crowd of 25,000 welcoming Agong ... I'm sure the 25,000 witnesses cannot see through his window..

Where is JPJ ?
andyjyneo
what to do... double standard in malaysia
so that's why stop voting BN
stupid cheapskate b*stards keep voting BN

and this stupid new transport minister doing sh*t
he should get a life before being kick out on next GE
asmly14
Gohmen will say that they need those tints to protect their "privacy". Who knows what they are doing inside smile.gif

But true also. They don't want to be head shot from a ridding motorcyclist point blank.
EyraYus
aiyoh... for high minister and royal`s they need it for security lah..

but I hope JPJ also saman more expensive car like BMW, Audi, Merc with dark tint.. not just cheap car like mine..

p/s : dont care.. my tint got 5 year warranty...
Ultima
they juz care bout minister n hi officer safety meh? blink.gif

we all also in danger meh, the need for dark tint is for our safety, our car acc safety, blablabla safety tongue.gif
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