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ianho
Come, come, all L-coholics, come discuss all ur L Lenses here n also show off ur beautiful lenses n pics.
I just got a 70-200 f4 yesterday n still learning how to make best use of a 70-200 lens. Any tips on how far we shud be when taking portraits with this lens? I also noticed a big difference in sharpness when I tried f4 vs f8 at 200mm. Is this true for the whole focal range from 70 all the way up to 200mm?

julchin_09
OMG. A dedicated L Lens thread here. Hope to see some serious gears like the 100-400 in action or my fav 70-200 f/2.8 IS. If we lucky enough, maybe even the prime teles of 300mm, 400mm and above....
goldfries
wah ian, looks like you always cure your poison very fast ah.

anyway, care to show us the 100% crop of your shot at F4 vs F8 @ 200?
Lurker
weee~~~ a gear thread!
gearheads unite!
dgrebel
owh dangit! where's the bobba name list?

here it goes anyway,

i'm a proud user of canon ef 70-200mm f4L . yey!

here's some samples:

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works well under lowlight too. wink.gif

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notice the awesomeness of the slight radial blur?

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yrh0413
tongue.gif Sooner we shall see Sigma EX, Tamron SP, Tokina ATX-Pro threads popping out... laugh.gif
ianho
QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 29 2008, 11:24 AM)
wah ian, looks like you always cure your poison very fast ah.

anyway, care to show us the 100% crop of your shot at F4 vs F8 @ 200?
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Cant really see it after I resize to fit 640x480. But when I open it up to actual size on my 30" monitor, can really see the diff. I suppose f4 is used only when we're really desperate for more speed or more bokeh?
julchin_09
Thats a huge Display. Apple eh?
db07mufan
L lense sharp sharp if compared to my chikai SIgma.. Anyone has a 70-200IS f2.8 here?

How is it?
dgrebel
QUOTE(db07mufan @ Mar 29 2008, 01:30 PM)
L lense sharp sharp if compared to my chikai SIgma.. Anyone has a 70-200IS f2.8 here?

How is it?
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as i know, awesomeness goes to empire23's 70-200mm f2.8L IS and second goes to vikingw2k's 70-200mm f2.8L non-IS
soulfly
QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Mar 29 2008, 11:42 AM)
tongue.gif Sooner we shall see Sigma EX, Tamron SP, Tokina ATX-Pro threads popping out... laugh.gif
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Or maybe a kit lens dedicated thread laugh.gif
empire23
QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 29 2008, 03:22 PM)
Or maybe a kit lens dedicated thread  laugh.gif
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Lousy lenses don't get threads of their own tongue.gif

I guess there should be something special about an item rather than just ownership to justify a thread. Maybe a "High Quality Lense Thread" would be better

I'm actually more in support of opening a Leica Summilux, Zeiss Superachromat and Apotar thread. I can only wish to own both of the latter. Can't help it, i'm starting to dislike Jappy lenses as keep seeing the sharpness from their Conti cousins sad.gif
goldfries
QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 29 2008, 12:14 PM)
Cant really see it after I resize to fit 640x480.  But when I open it up to actual size on my 30" monitor, can really see the diff. I suppose f4 is used only when we're really desperate for more speed or more bokeh?
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eh, just upload a tiny cropped portion of it la. at 100% (meaning no resize lor)
Jim
Some ppl use 70-200 2.8f L for potrait shots, so that the model don feel so weird that u stand too near her/him... Can I ask a question? mmmm.. the lense is so long and huge, how to use for potrait ah? convenient meh?
yrh0413
well, normally people don't use till the 200mm end anyways. smile.gif Perhaps 70-135mm range to be more common.
empire23
QUOTE(Jim @ Mar 29 2008, 07:19 PM)
Some ppl use 70-200 2.8f L for potrait shots, so that the model don feel so weird that u stand too near her/him... Can I ask a question? mmmm.. the lense is so long and huge, how to use for potrait ah? convenient meh?
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You can't stand too near lol, the Minimum focusing distance of this heavy biatche is about 1.4 meters, it's hard to handle due to it's weight some more so if you wield it with it's tripod collar and 2x Extender, but rest assured, take it out enough times and you'll have arms the size of cranes.

Personally it does the 85mm portrait shots extremely well and it's even easier to do so with the batt grip. Plus it has the added ability of zoom versatility.
r4ydc24
eh ian, i tot u are an alpha legionnaire? ahahahahaha... so long not update info lah... tongue.gif
derek87
QUOTE(Jim @ Mar 29 2008, 07:19 PM)
Some ppl use 70-200 2.8f L for potrait shots, so that the model don feel so weird that u stand too near her/him... Can I ask a question? mmmm.. the lense is so long and huge, how to use for potrait ah? convenient meh?
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not to say convenient or not convenient.. using dslr is already not convenient.. So why the heck care about convenience? LOL... some use 70-200 is to take portraits so that the model can express more of themselves because you are not around them and they do not know where you are too. For eg, wedding photography. some use 70-200mm even for studio shooting so that they get a clear separation of the blurred background and the model in the picture.
ianho
QUOTE(r4ydc24 @ Mar 29 2008, 08:38 PM)
eh ian, i tot u are an alpha legionnaire? ahahahahaha... so long not update info lah... tongue.gif
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I got both A200 n 40D mar. laugh.gif
goldfries
QUOTE(r4ydc24 @ Mar 29 2008, 08:38 PM)
eh ian, i tot u are an alpha legionnaire? ahahahahaha... so long not update info lah... tongue.gif
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Ian no affiliation wan. brand is not a religion. smile.gif you can use more than 1 brand and it's not a sin. biggrin.gif
zzloo
Alpha + Canon not so geng.. mine lagi syok..

Jim, i m the 1 who always use 70-200 for potrait shooting, no prob at all

here is my noobie shot..

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Ahmike
QUOTE(zzloo @ Mar 29 2008, 10:39 PM)
Alpha + Canon not so geng.. mine lagi syok..

Jim, i m the 1 who always use 70-200 for potrait shooting, no prob at all

here is my noobie shot..

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What the original file look like?
vincent_audio
QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 29 2008, 09:22 PM)
Ian no affiliation wan. brand is not a religion. smile.gif you can use more than 1 brand and it's not a sin. biggrin.gif
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the orange legion seems to think differently and keep on saying he is a traitor and jump ship smile.gif
Ahmike
QUOTE(vincent_audio @ Mar 30 2008, 12:21 AM)
the orange legion seems to think differently and keep on saying he is a traitor and jump ship smile.gif
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He got two ship anytime can jump here and there... who knows..3rd ship is darkside..haha Death Star
vikingw2k
QUOTE(Ahmike @ Mar 30 2008, 12:28 AM)
He got two ship anytime can jump here and there... who knows..3rd ship is darkside..haha Death Star
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Later he suddenly whips out a D3.. fuh... biggrin.gif
Ahmike
QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Mar 30 2008, 12:30 AM)
Later he suddenly whips out a D3.. fuh... biggrin.gif
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And Oly and Pentax along the way... for his family... smile.gif
sherren
QUOTE(Ahmike @ Mar 30 2008, 12:28 AM)
He got two ship anytime can jump here and there... who knows..3rd ship is darkside..haha Death Star
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Mar 30 2008, 12:30 AM)
Later he suddenly whips out a D3.. fuh... biggrin.gif
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Yeah who knows he might be interested to get a 3rd Body brows.gif so he will have the Darkside , Orange Legion , Light Side laugh.gif
Multibrand tongue.gif
mengsuan
Oh wow! L lens thread. Can I ask questions in this topic or
1) Should I get a tamron 17-50mm f/2.8+flashgun or canon 17-40mm f/4? I use it as a replacement for kit lens and I will use the lens indoors quite frequently. Price is a factor.
2) Can the 70-200 be a suitable substitute for 85mm?
ianho
Ya lar. Mebe I shud try a D40 just to see what makes the 3 different brands unique. laugh.gif
goldfries
you use 40D already, should aim at least D80 mah.

if you use A100 and 350D then D40 ok la. you compare. smile.gif
vincent_audio
QUOTE(Ahmike @ Mar 30 2008, 12:36 AM)
And Oly and Pentax along the way... for his family... smile.gif
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wah , like that he can open a port already. To store his collection of ships smile.gif nice nice, can do exhibition


Added on March 30, 2008, 12:58 am
QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 30 2008, 12:51 AM)
Ya lar. Mebe I shud try a D40 just to see what makes the 3 different brands unique.  laugh.gif
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D40 is too low for u already, get D80,D200 or D300 smile.gif
vikingw2k
QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 30 2008, 12:49 AM)
Oh wow! L lens thread. Can I ask questions in this topic or
1) Should I get a tamron 17-50mm f/2.8+flashgun or canon 17-40mm f/4? I use it as a replacement for kit lens and I will use the lens indoors quite frequently. Price is a factor.
2) Can the 70-200 be a suitable substitute for 85mm?
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1. If your budget is tight, get Tammy 17-50mm f2.8 + flashgun. If you afford 17-40mm f4 L, go for it.
2. 70-200mm is meant for covering events, 85mm is more to portraits. Two different thingy tongue.gif

QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 30 2008, 12:51 AM)
Ya lar. Mebe I shud try a D40 just to see what makes the 3 different brands unique.  laugh.gif
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D40 not bad weh, I'm using one biggrin.gif

mengsuan
QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Mar 30 2008, 12:58 AM)
1. If your budget is tight, get Tammy 17-50mm f2.8 + flashgun. If you afford 17-40mm f4 L, go for it.
2. 70-200mm is meant for covering events, 85mm is more to portraits. Two different thingy tongue.gif
D40 not bad weh, I'm using one biggrin.gif
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I thought of using 70-200 as a substitute only after I saw the replies in this topic. Haha..
Jim
QUOTE(zzloo @ Mar 29 2008, 10:39 PM)
Alpha + Canon not so geng.. mine lagi syok..

Jim, i m the 1 who always use 70-200 for potrait shooting, no prob at all

here is my noobie shot..

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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70-200 4L and 2.8L and with IS and without IS, isit alot of different? I am aiming one of these lense next...

the weight is a concern... 2.8L IS weighs 1.5kg.. hahah after you take all those girls' pictures, your hand cannot raise already..
dgrebel
without IS, panning is alot harder

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not sharp enuff

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and not bright enuff

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mengsuan
How much is the 17-40mm f/4L market price now; local warranty and grey unit?
dgrebel
QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 30 2008, 05:06 PM)
How much is the 17-40mm f/4L market price now; local warranty and grey unit?
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2350. local warranty if u get it from me la.. grey unit price wont be cheap either. because of the low demand. most people ask for tamron 17-50 f2.8
vikingw2k
QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 30 2008, 05:06 PM)
How much is the 17-40mm f/4L market price now; local warranty and grey unit?
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It's around RM25xx with Canon Malaysia warranty.
mengsuan
What price should I expect for a used 17-40mm f/4L?
vikingw2k
QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 30 2008, 05:20 PM)
What price should I expect for a used 17-40mm f/4L?
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RM2100-2200 depending on condition.
zzloo
QUOTE(Ahmike @ Mar 29 2008, 11:46 PM)
What the original file look like?
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huh?

QUOTE(Jim @ Mar 30 2008, 04:13 PM)
70-200 4L and 2.8L and with IS and without IS, isit alot of different? I am aiming one of these lense next...

the weight is a concern... 2.8L IS weighs 1.5kg.. hahah after you take all those girls' pictures, your hand cannot raise already..
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2.8 works better in low light condition, but the weight of the lens is 2 times more. With IS, slightly heavier, can reduce handshake and easier for panning. 4L IS is a 3rd gen IS that can work up to 4 stops while 2.8L IS is a 2nd gen IS that can work up to 3 stop
ifer
QUOTE(empire23 @ Mar 29 2008, 05:30 PM)
Lousy lenses don't get threads of their own tongue.gif

I guess there should be something special about an item rather than just ownership to justify a thread. Maybe a "High Quality Lense Thread" would be better

I'm actually more in support of opening a Leica Summilux, Zeiss Superachromat and Apotar thread. I can only wish to own both of the latter. Can't help it, i'm starting to dislike Jappy lenses as keep seeing the sharpness from their Conti cousins sad.gif
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maybe we should.
or maybe i should open a '150mm APO LANTHAR' lens thread.
this lens is radioactive.
put this tiny lens into your pants pocket and chances are, you won't be making any girls pregnant every again.
ianho
QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 30 2008, 08:04 PM)
maybe we should.
or maybe i should open a '150mm APO LANTHAR' lens thread.
this lens is radioactive.
put this tiny lens into your pants pocket and chances are, you won't be making any girls pregnant every again.
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Interesting. What's the purpose for it's radioactivity?
myjunk
QUOTE(dgrebel @ Mar 30 2008, 05:13 PM)
2350. local warranty if u get it from me la.. grey unit price wont be cheap either. because of the low demand. most people ask for tamron 17-50 f2.8
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the user's price list thread has it listed at RM2450 at Foto Selangor. Local canon Warranty as well
dgrebel
QUOTE(myjunk @ Mar 30 2008, 08:40 PM)
the user's price list thread has it listed at RM2450 at Foto Selangor. Local canon Warranty as well
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i can get cheaper. blush.gif 2350 only
myjunk
QUOTE(dgrebel @ Mar 30 2008, 08:43 PM)
i can get cheaper.  blush.gif  2350 only
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That was dated Jan 30th 2008 and commented as "not a very attractive price"
now is april, price may gone Down?? Anyway.....

Your local warranty = canon warranty?
dgrebel
QUOTE(myjunk @ Mar 30 2008, 08:50 PM)
That was dated Jan 30th 2008 and commented as "not a very attractive price"
now is april, price may gone Down?? Anyway.....

Your local warranty = canon warranty?
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it's a company set. anything wrong with it, send it back to me for service with canon malaysia, we cover the expenses.

get it right before making a purchase,

it doesnt come with a warranty card becoz this is an oversea set which has not been sold out during the clearance sale at other country, so they have to transfer it to our country to cover the losses and my friend bought it for cheap. it's brand new and unused. we will give out an invoice so that u can make the claim if anything goes wrong.

right now have to order since we dont have stock.

for grey set(japan set), the price is not very convincing to sell it out. its almost similar with local retail price.
zzloo
then seems no point to get it = =
myjunk
TQ for the explanation. The price is not bad actually, Amazon.com sells it for ~Rm2130 after conversion.
I would like to get a UWA but this lens is only 17mm on a FF body, on crop sensor, not UWA enough.

Sigh, the 10-22 is not an L and still same price.
xnobys
QUOTE(dgrebel @ Mar 30 2008, 08:43 PM)
i can get cheaper.  blush.gif  2350 only
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problem is i got to pay in full and have to wait for your stock. there's much to much to loose and it is very risky on my part.
if only you accept a 10% deposit while the remaining balance is paid upon delivery, i might probably buy the 16-35 f2.8L and 70-200 f2.8L IS from you.
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