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goldfries
Hi there,

UPDATES :
- My MSN Account is should be disabled now. *Microsoft! I'm waiting for you!*
- My LYN account is not affected, so chill guys and gals. It's still me


I'm sure those of you who have me on MSN might have already received odd requests - DO NOT ENTERTAIN THEM!

As seen in the notice , my MSN (Windows Live Messenger la) uses my really really really old, unused and unmaintained E-mail address - briancyc@hotmail.com was compromised.

Never thought that anyone would take the trouble to breach it. yes, it's breached but that's not the point of this thread.

the conman
Claims that
a) i need money (which I'm NOT in any need) *applies to those who are already on my MSN contact*
b) i sell PayPal funds (which I am not either) *applies to those who are trading but does not know me or spoken to me before via MSN*

And so far he's using the following accounts
- WONG SOO WEI - 1141 7883 6111
http://www.tp-racing.com/order.htm

- FOO YONG YOKE - 1121 1141 3238 (which so happened to be used in this trade dispute

- FOO JET SIONG - 1123 9902 8506
http://www.google.com.my/search?client=fir...G=Google+Search
http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/archive/i...php/t-3858.html
http://carigold.com/portal/modules.php?nam...7&op=nextnewest
http://www.carigold.com/portal/forums/show...?t=21329&page=3

modus operandi
- this conman is an active LYN participant, and seems to know the Trade Zone well.
- he manipulates reputation, trust and various "psychological" tricks to get the deal, or what he wants.

For traders at LYN forum
1. approach people by finding those who are
a). wanting to buy items
b). leaves an MSN contact, that's his only approach. and possibly handphone number.


2. identifies himself as "goldfries" (yes, ME) and does everything via MSN.

3. gets the buyer to BANK IN to whatever X account. from my observation of past cases, this one is same - just that he uses trust and reputation.

4. Now after the transaction is done, what i suspect is that he would inform the recipient that HE has banked in the $$$ and he'll get his goods. so we end up with
a). a person will less $$$
b). a person who manage to sell his stuff
c). a person who's just a scapegoat but has nothing to do with the matter altogether
d). a person that got away with the goods



For those are are not trading but already know me from and on my MSN contact list
1. he will claim that I need money
2. then he'll probably say I couldn't access maybank2u so pump the $$$ to someone else' account.


how to verify it is "goldfries"
1. My surname is CHONG
2. My handphone number starts with 013 and ends with 97
3. I will always be on LYN and WILL be able to verify via LYN. (don't worry, account not compromised here. we have control of these accounts. smile.gif )
4. Use the contact form at http://www.goldfries.com if you need, that one guarantee to reach me and not some scammer replying you. (and I have full control of it too)


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OTHER THREAD FOR REFERENCE.

Evading Imposters, a quick guide
WaCKy-Angel
QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 01:36 PM)

3. I will always be on LYN and WILL be able to verify via LYN. (don't worry, account not compromised here. we have control of these accounts. smile.gif )

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Ah Wang LYN nick compromised already wat
goldfries
that's him la but it's restored. no issues. smile.gif
jtcs87
I also kena.... rclxub.gif Luckily i notice not like u.... bcoz he scold me at msn! whistling.gif

QUOTE
(12:02 PM) Brian: hi
(12:02 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: find me?
(12:02 PM) Brian: yes
(12:02 PM) Brian: its me goldfries
(12:02 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: i noe
(12:02 PM) Brian: i am trading egold with her now..
(12:03 PM) Brian: can u get her to send me first
(12:03 PM) Brian: because she ask me to contact u
(12:03 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: u is ah wang??
(12:03 PM) Brian: my friend ah wang
(12:03 PM) Brian: i just helping him only
(12:03 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: u oso noe the rules la
(12:03 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: lolx
(12:03 PM) Brian: yala..
(12:03 PM) Brian: but he say after receive he sure pay ma
(12:04 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: =.="
(12:04 PM) Brian: ok nevermind
(12:04 PM) Brian: since u dont trust me
(12:04 PM) Brian: good luck

(12:06 PM) Brian has left the conversation.

(12:07 PM) Brian just sent you a nudge.
(12:07 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: yes?
(12:07 PM) Brian: how?
(12:07 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: i be middle man ok?
(12:08 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: money go to me 1st..... after he send the money... i will paid 2 the seller
(12:08 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: is tat ok?
(12:08 PM) Brian: no need to be so complicated
(12:08 PM) Brian: thanks for ur "help"
(12:08 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: hw much for egold?
(12:08 PM) Brian: 2925
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: 2925 USD ???
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: bcum RM ???
(12:09 PM) Brian: myr
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: oo
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: USD is hw much?
(12:09 PM) Brian: 900
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: 700?
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: oo
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: wait wait
(12:11 PM) Brian just sent you a nudge.
(12:12 PM) Brian: ...
(12:12 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: im nuts
(12:12 PM) Brian: i hate this kind of seller in lyn
(12:12 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: lolx
(12:12 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: he is sell things la
(12:12 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: for sure get money 1st la
(12:13 PM) Brian: i dont trust him
(12:13 PM) Brian: how to pay
(12:13 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: eh
(12:13 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: u trust me?
(12:13 PM) Brian: cya
(12:13 PM) Brian: bb
(12:13 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: okies


Also use Ah Wang ID to PM me.... Message i still saved it. whistling.gif
goldfries
LOL. so un-ME. smile.gif

those who know me sure can detect wan la. find your usual topic with me is enough.

another way to verify - ASK QUESTIONS! smile.gif
jtcs87
QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 02:45 PM)
LOL. so un-ME. smile.gif

those who know me sure can detect wan la. find your usual topic with me is enough.

another way to verify - ASK QUESTIONS! smile.gif
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Ofcause..... Usually u said " Sell things must get money first..... if you don't trust then just don't buy from me " ...... I noticed it is not YOU!

GOLDFRIES's SLOGAN! whistling.gif
goldfries
wah i didn't know i got trademark already.

anyway just practise some wisdom la but the thing is normally people think MSN straight is confirm the person cos no one else is using the account sad.gif that's the problem.
cstkl1
this kind of guy needs a free whack session..

call lowyatians
kumpul at mamak stall .preferably klang ( police doesnt seem to get involved in large gatherings.
tie that fella in a pole). take turns after everybody already pumped with roti canai energy..

transfer of energy
happy4ever
QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 02:45 PM)
LOL. so un-ME. smile.gif

those who know me sure can detect wan la. find your usual topic with me is enough.

another way to verify - ASK QUESTIONS! smile.gif
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I know you, and last time we met, you had your hands up my skirt...sei hamsap lou wub.gif
Collector
No la..dont..just tie thim to the poll and unzipped his trousers/pants/jeans and let his small birdie out then take/buy whole lot of red-ants and pour it to his birdie.Sure kaw kaw..the rest take group photo.!!!!Hahahahah...
happy4ever
QUOTE(Collector @ Mar 24 2008, 03:07 PM)
No la..dont..just tie thim to the poll and unzipped his trousers/pants/jeans and let his small birdie out then take/buy whole lot of red-ants and pour it to his birdie.Sure kaw kaw..the rest take group photo.!!!!Hahahahah...
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sounds kinky...i'm sure it feels nice and hot wub.gif
goldfries
eh guys. thanks for the entertainment but it's not a discussion about punishment method or after-work activities la. smile.gif
Lexitachi
QUOTE(jtcs87 @ Mar 24 2008, 02:22 PM)
I also kena....  rclxub.gif  Luckily i notice not like u.... bcoz he scold me at msn!  whistling.gif
Also use Ah Wang ID to PM me.... Message i still saved it.  whistling.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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I've notice something about the conversation.
1) He sure is desperate. (goldfries desperate? nonsense)
2) Impatient. (i like goldfries character, he is sure is patient)
3) English dude English. (i've never talk to goldfries this kind shortform language)
4) He is not a pro-con man. (Never done enough research or his homework)
5) Brian never approach with his first move like saying "(12:02 PM) Brian: its me goldfries "
6) Find it awkward. shocking.gif
7) That Con-man got played by the conversation. (bravo to *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏)
8) goldfries is humble.
9) goldfries sarcasm? ((12:08 PM) Brian: thanks for ur "help") <--- Your "welcome".
10) Conclusion. He is not fit for con-man! Never did his proper homework before tricking people. tongue.gif


*Cheers mate, im sorry if i offended anyone. especially Goldfries. Just wanted to tell the community that this is how far i know Goldfries. You have my support!*
sHin0bi
omg scammers...

luckily i dont WTB post. i click on WTS oni lol!

sailou
QUOTE
3/23/2008  11:17:50 PM  briancyc@hotmail.com  Danny  danny
3/23/2008  11:17:54 PM  briancyc@hotmail.com  Danny  can u borrow me some cash
3/23/2008  11:18:04 PM  Danny  briancyc@hotmail.com  ????????
3/23/2008  11:18:17 PM  briancyc@hotmail.com  Danny  i want to pay my friend
3/23/2008  11:18:54 PM  Danny  briancyc@hotmail.com  do i know u?
3/23/2008  11:19:06 PM  briancyc@hotmail.com  Danny  goldfries
3/23/2008  11:19:56 PM  Danny  briancyc@hotmail.com  u r from?
3/23/2008  11:22:49 PM  Danny  Brian (LYN Admin)  how much do u want?
3/23/2008  11:22:58 PM  Brian (LYN Admin)  Danny  1600
3/23/2008  11:23:09 PM  Danny  Brian (LYN Admin)  gosh so much
3/23/2008  11:23:17 PM  Brian (LYN Admin)  Danny  hw much u can borrow?
3/23/2008  11:23:58 PM  Danny  Brian (LYN Admin)  to be honest i dun even know u personally. and i'm not even sure u r who u r now


I knew goldfries msn must have been hacked. Just dont have the time to play along with the scammer.
goldfries
wow. gee, thanks guys! never realize you guys noted my patterns, which is something no one can imitate.
jtcs87
QUOTE(Lexitachi @ Mar 24 2008, 03:14 PM)
I've notice something about the conversation.
1) He sure is desperate. (goldfries desperate? nonsense)
2) Impatient. (i like goldfries character, he is sure is patient)
3) English dude English. (i've never talk to goldfries this kind shortform language)
4) He is not a pro-con man. (Never done enough research or his homework)
5) Brian never approach with his first move like saying "(12:02 PM) Brian: its me goldfries "
6) Find it awkward.  shocking.gif
7) That Con-man got played by the conversation. (bravo to *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏)
8) goldfries is humble.
9) goldfries sarcasm? ((12:08 PM) Brian: thanks for ur "help") <--- Your "welcome".
10) Conclusion. He is not fit for con-man! Never did his proper homework before tricking people.  tongue.gif
*Cheers mate, im sorry if i offended anyone. especially Goldfries. Just wanted to tell the community that this is how far i know Goldfries. You have my support!*
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where i gt play with him???? rclxub.gif when he said "its me goldfries".... then i noticed already! thumbup.gif
fruitie
I noticed the pattern too. He asked me for RM 850 and I told him I don't have so much. I know it wasn't Brian because his English sucks.

Anyhow, managed to call Brian and woke him up and told him about this. blush.gif I put a notice on my MSN messenger asked everyone not to bank in money to Brian, because his account got hacked. He sent me a message, "Hey, don't try to be a hero here." Later on I said, "I am not and we are not dumb OK?" He replied, "take that off." I replied, "hahahaha I won't." Then, he threatened me, "OK, your account next, don't try to challenge me." cry.gif
jack7155
QUOTE(fruitie @ Mar 24 2008, 04:02 PM)
I noticed the pattern too. He asked me for RM 850 and I told him I don't have so much. I know it wasn't Brian because his English sucks.

Anyhow, managed to call Brian and woke him up and told him about this. blush.gif I put a notice on my MSN messenger asked everyone not to bank in money to Brian, because his account got hacked. He sent me a message, "Hey, don't try to be a hero here."  Later on I said, "I am not and we are not dumb OK?" He replied, "take that off." I replied, "hahahaha I won't." Then, he threatened me, "OK, your account next, don't try to challenge me." cry.gif
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how they hack our account? how to prevent it? flex.gif
fruitie
I think all MODs and TE were asked to lend him money... sweat.gif
Nimzai
I'm not trying to offend anyone here.. but what you guyz saying here is providing more information for THE scammer to be a better scammer.
That's what i feel la.. haha
Lexitachi
QUOTE(jtcs87 @ Mar 24 2008, 04:00 PM)
where i gt play with him????  rclxub.gif  when he said "its me goldfries".... then i noticed already!  thumbup.gif
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Well you outsmart him at first. Praise for you then smile.gif
goldfries
QUOTE(Nimzai @ Mar 24 2008, 04:09 PM)
I'm not trying to offend anyone here.. but what you guyz saying here is providing more information for THE scammer to be a better scammer.
That's what i feel la.. haha
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i did thought of that but i think it's fine la, cos when people highlight here - readers will take more care and understand his failings.

it's all about understanding criminal minds.

he'll probably be reading this too. he'll probably try to imitate. LOL. if he manage to do so, then kudos to him.

it's now down to whether the approached people practise wisdom.

good luck trying.
Lexitachi
QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 04:15 PM)
i did thought of that but i think it's fine la, cos when people highlight here - readers will take more care and understand his failings.

it's all about understanding criminal minds.

he'll probably be reading this too. he'll probably try to imitate. LOL. if he manage to do so, then kudos to him.

it's now down to whether the approached people practise wisdom.

good luck trying.
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There will be always one Goldfries we know.
Ah WanG
QUOTE(jtcs87 @ Mar 24 2008, 02:22 PM)
I also kena....  rclxub.gif  Luckily i notice not like u.... bcoz he scold me at msn!  whistling.gif
Also use Ah Wang ID to PM me.... Message i still saved it.  whistling.gif
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wat is my last pm to u? can u post it here? not sure whether is sent by me or not

Reuben
I think it's hard to rectify bad English in a short while tongue.gif
~Rogue~
wow, the world is changing, anyone caught this scammer, pls call us, feel like wanna bash this feller after reading goldfries post
chilicandy
certainly a very 'hot' news in forum now? biggrin.gif
we can see someone carrying this signature...

candlejack

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2286/awesomeus8.png
goldfries
ahh the fella NBTD la but for the first time i see him post constructively in Kopitiam.

such people who take joy in people's displeasure are asses, don't you think so?
Lexitachi
QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 05:20 PM)
ahh the fella NBTD la but for the first time i see him post constructively in Kopitiam.

such people who take joy in people's displeasure are asses, don't you think so?
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Agreed.
Suemitraa
Adoi, Danny would call Brian up for sure. Scammers these days.. kena sepak kang, baru tau.. tongue.gif
lehteck
If That 'Brian' MSN me and ask me help , i sure help one, bcoz i trust Brian Haha. JK la...

This kind of idiot really has time to do such thing.... He needs to go back to sch to learn..start from k.garden maybe...
jtcs87
QUOTE(Ah WanG @ Mar 24 2008, 04:59 PM)
wat is my last pm to u? can u post it here? not sure whether is sent by me or not
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Please read at below! thumbup.gif


First PM

QUOTE
hi,i am trading with jcwy now for 700usd egold

can u ask her to send to me first?

thanks


Second PM
QUOTE
who do u deal wif?

where is teh thread?

who is the seller n buyer?


Third PM
QUOTE
it's based on trust from both parties

i can't advice u on that


may i know what do u mean by "But he said wan u transfer money to my acc 1st...." ?
goldfries
updated! now he uses another account. smile.gif 3 in total as of this post.

all with 'oo' on the name.
karom
Hello everyone,

I have been asked by the person using bryancyc@hotmail.com to transfer money from Maybank to his contact. The person indicated that his Maybank2u cant be use at the particular moment.

Luckily, I dont enough cash in my account.

Upon read this thread, I did asked the person whether did he asked me regarding the Maybank2u (asked on 6.30pm, today) and it seems he is still using the account for this purpose.

mindkiller6610
just 2 simple questions :

first, anyone fallen into the traps?

second, how did the fella got access to goldfries and ah wang msn acc ?
fir3f0x
so many peoples had got conned by them and reported to police but they are still free out there. is the police doing nothing or wad ? i wanted to see how they ended up got arrested la dang.
jtcs87
QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Mar 24 2008, 06:43 PM)
just 2 simple questions :

first, anyone fallen into the traps?

second, how did the fella got access to goldfries and ah wang msn acc ?
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I also interest to know who are get to the trap already? Why want hack goldfries & ah wang account? Straightly go for wkkay, RBR, se7en is better.... icon_rolleyes.gif
goldfries
donno la. i'm inclined to believe it's MSN side got way to get la. cos i don't use my WLM on any other machines except mine, which i don't download / install / browse like mad person.

anyway now is just to curb the damage or possible damage. smile.gif btw i've added more resources on 1st post for viewing.
fir3f0x
QUOTE(jtcs87 @ Mar 24 2008, 06:49 PM)
I also interest to know who are get to the trap already? Why want hack goldfries & ah wang account? Straightly go for wkkay, RBR, se7en is better....  icon_rolleyes.gif
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maybe both of them more active in that few selected threads?
goldfries
no la, the scammer got good taste.

my nick is GOLD and the other is WANG. doesn't it all make sense? smile.gif
jtcs87
QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 06:53 PM)
no la, the scammer got good taste.

my nick is GOLD and the other is WANG. doesn't it all make sense? smile.gif
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Next time find a mod call " DIAMOND".... may be he will interest to hack with it.... lets try.... icon_rolleyes.gif
-Teddy-
I received one too. He said he lost his ATM and wants to borrow some money. He was not using goldfries avatar so I suspect something, and therefore I told him to withdraw his money via bank counter instead of using ATM the next morning.

Scammer that never uses common sense = FAIL

It was 11+ at night if I'm not mistaken.

Oh ya by the way, he call himself Bryan while the MSN name and email address says Brian, lol.
jtcs87
QUOTE(-Teddy- @ Mar 24 2008, 07:42 PM)
I received one too. He said he lost his ATM and wants to borrow some money. He was not using goldfries avatar so I suspect something, and therefore I told him to withdraw his money via bank counter instead of using ATM the next morning.

Scammer that never uses common sense = FAIL

It was 11+ at night if I'm not mistaken.

Oh ya by the way, he call himself Bryan while the MSN name and email address says Brian, lol.
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He call a LYN forumer to transfer him about 900 USD egold without paying one cent first. I msn him how can be like that.... He just reply " I hate this kind of seller! " rclxub.gif
charliemah
*PHAILED* doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

Scammers are all over the place. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
wwlai87
so how's everything goin on? may i know who kena scammed?? flex.gif anyway Goldfries, sorry if i offended u wif my PMs... hope those that kena scammed can solve the problem ASAP.. notworthy.gif
skylinegtr34rule4life
wah scammers everywhere doh.gif i thought after election all gaji will naik a lot but why so many people still die die fight 4 easy lunch doh.gif
~Battousai~
Ah WanG just contacted me to paypal. Is that really him ?
fruitie
QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ Mar 24 2008, 10:44 PM)
Ah WanG just contacted me to paypal. Is that really him ?
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I don't think so. Quickly pm Goldfries or wKkaY.
stevanistelrooy
DO NOT banking into any account PM-ed by Ah Wang either through LYN or via MSN/YM etc until further notice.

Battousai, heed fruitie suggestion ASAP.
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