The truth is....it is on a slow but progressive rise again. Thanks to events like the Campur Chart Goes Live by Fly FM as well the upstart of hip hop gigs organized by peeps who care about the genre the public are aware that Hip Hop is not dead.

But I do sense that there is some beef or dissatisfaction. Probably not by the artist themselves but more by their crew or fans. Lets face it, the market is so small that everyone gets defensive on their apple pie. But the fact is that across different Hip Hop artist they share the general buying fans.

Creating disunity is certainly bad in such a shallow market. Come to think of it it is not only shallow but narrow as well. But why is it happening? I figure it is the whole Hip-Hop culture in the first place. However it must be said that Hip-Hop here in Malaysia can't be exactly like it is in the US. We always imitate but seldom innovate.

Who is currently aiming international? I could dare say there are no more than 3. Ok, Malique has lost all hope for the local industry to grow and that is why his tracks are only played in Indonesia even that it is unmixed or mastered. Talk about appreciation. Joe Flizzow is currently on the Tour in China and sealed KRS One for one of his tracks which puts Nike Air Forces centre stage. Yogi B and his boys have conquered India a long time ago.

Where is everybody else? Yes I see a lot of hustling but is it done right? Lets take the example of Jay Z. He knows doing just music he will not earn that much as compared to venturing into so many other things. So where will we take Hip-Hop in Malaysia to?

Sticking to the staple selling CDs and ringtones with the pie spread across lesser than 20 million people? Now let me throw a challenge.....Jin is in town and instead of just bickering to meet him or record his freestyle why not ask him where did he go wrong? Believe it or not Hip-Hop here is far more interesting than where is came from.

Hip-Hop should always be ever evolving and changing. Do not just copy what the greats are doing in the states. Asian fans and American fans are totally different. Coming out too gangster for a rapper's own good will bring him or her no where in this country. Amidst the few who are pulling up shows and waiting for someone to ring them up and offer them a slot why not make your own.

Music and entertainment is a business. There is no two ways about that and expect that nothing will come in a silver platter. Hustle, but hustle with the right people. Always remember for every sen you take you will always be required to put in a ringgit of effort. I don't need to rhyme to make sense right?

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I dunno bout hip-hop but Kru once experimented on the rap-rock genre in their song I.R.A (1993). A collaboration between them n Man Kidal. And the interesting part is...it's long before others were doing it in the states.

Malaysian entertainment industry is dead... or was never even alive...

Huh i thought it was Aerosmith and Public Enemy, they did it in the 80's...

Oh hip hop songs. I thought it's about those hip-hop-wannabe fashion-disastrous-kids in Malaysia.

Malaysia just don't have what it takes to be famous in this category.

mind you, it was aerosmith with RUN D.M.C

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Added on March 24, 2008, 12:10 am



and who are you to be deciding that for us?

firstly, define hip hop. it isnt just a bunch of songs.

next, who said anything bout being famous[I]?
being good at and talented at something is totally different from being famous. it isn't some popularuty contest.

please elaborate why malaysia hasn't got what it takes? we've definitely got the talent.

I personally think the hip-hop scene down here is very weak. Hip-hop is a combination from the 4 elements which is b-boying, emceeing, DJ-ing and graffiti writing. Most of us tend to overlook these foundations and merely view hip-hop as a sub-genre of clothing. I have to say that not everyone here in Malaysia appreciates hip-hop culture and instead tend to stereotype it to big bootay THANKS TO F*CKING MTV. If hip-hop wants a chance here, we need real masters to get down here and show what it is. The likes of Afrika Bambaataa, Rock Steady Crew, The Furious Five, Grandmaster Flash, The Incredible Bongo Band. These dudes were the ones who pioneered hip-hop since the start. I think with little appreciation, people will know what hip-hop is about.

On another note, i think the b-boying scene here has a long way to go if they intend to make it international.

i only listen to 2 Live Crew back in the day...hehe...rap started upon me with a dubbed tape of Run DMC...forgot the album title already. But i guess i got more into metal than rap those days....and a bit of mixture between metal and rap via Body Count - ice T ruled babeh!

Msian hip hop? hmmm...used to listen to a demo from a group called Whyness back in 92...dunno what happen to them...aaa...and there was Krash Koz too i think.

now already old...dunno...dont care...haha...so yeah, just enjoy whatever ur into now until it lasts

i just pity posers dressing up with 'so called hip hop' attires in kl, under the bright sunlight, with du-rags and snow caps... du-rags with caps... haha...

berpeluh kepala... cummon... this is kl... not sum 4 season country...

LOL, Hip Hop was soo 2001, nowdays is the rave+shuffle era

i thought rave in KL already died when Movement and Backroom were closed down those days...oh..sorry, Movement got burnt in flames rite...hmm...

what's shuffle anyways? man...i'm so like out of touch....haha

oh..we're still talking about hip hop rite? well..no more comment from me i guess. Just wish 4U2C would make a comeback someday...kami rappers yo yo yo...hehehe

Heard a local band in myspace or facebook, can't remember ; their DJ has a good sense of tune picking, so it was decent.

They could rap too, but I really don't understand why must most copy the US rap about the hood & ghetto..........

I recalled the lyrics was something like this, "...Speak like that in T-town, they will kill you ; lemme show u around." or something *it's totally off, I cant remember spot-on*

I LMFAO after that line........... I mean, why not rap about local stuffs rather than acting all gangsta...

For the other local hip-hop bands, they're good but... it just feels weird when they start talking and acting in that hip-hop manner... turns me off.

Hip-Hop Is Still Very Much Alive In Malaysia... Please don't Diss Malaysian Hip-Hop just bcuz You don't like it.. We all do respect, everyone got their own interest in different genre of songs. So don't diss or reply in this forum if u ain't interested in Hip-Hop..

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well first off, i dun diss ppl easily when it comes to local hip hop. i understand them and i am part of the culture.

there's quite a few things that we need to improve the exposure to the masses.

if we take a look at the rock melayu era back in the early 80's, it took one event to spread the awareness. the Battle Of The Bands. that event really opened up doors to bands and the masses to get to know about rock scene.

i wish there's one promoter company or label who can do events like that again. we need those kinda events to spread our word. not the same gig over and over again in a pub sumwhere where it is only attended by ppl like us (who loves and appreciate the music).

some of us got skills here. props to KLG Squad, K Town Clan, Doul, Caprice, and a few more artists. we got good selection of talents.

but yeah i do agree that sometimes i feel weird when ppl start acting all hip hop to me. weird because like some of us say here, we're in malaysia, drop the slang and let's do it the malaysian way.

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Added on August 8, 2008, 12:59 am

oi! it was Run DMC feat Aerosmith la, 1986!

please get your facts right first.

and yeah, KRU is NOT A RAP GROUP.
they are sing songs with rap chorus in it.
pretty much like the new jack swing (do you know what's new jack swing?), only they do it differently.

and may i know you are referring to who?

hip hop is being spread without restriction in Malaysia..
Is more like a trend than culture right now........

you are talking as if Hip Hop is a virus.
it's that bad eh?

I'm so fall behind with Malaysian Hip Hop. Only artists i knew is Too Phat (but that was back in those old days), and perhaps Point Blanc...

Malaysian hoppers should rap in Malay...
hehe..

i do!!!

Caprice got a new single comin out check it!

http://fr.youtube.com/capricetv

Sarah Legend is in there sh*T!

Dont wasting your time and money on unnecessary west culture..if you really like it, just enjoy their music..no more.

LOL.
so buying albums is not a waste of time and money?
oh wait.. maybe the word "buy" isn't in your vocabulary..

the truth is we all know that it won't make it big here...... the market is too small and our culture... well... no need say la... all rather fork out money for international star album...

well a few groups used to be big enuff to have their own sponsors. i remember digi, swatch, coke and mac sponsoring Poetic Ammo before. too phat got sponsored by hotlink, sprite, and a few other brands.

the market used to be able to accept them, back then singing in english is considered cool.

suddenly we get a truck load of crap coming from indonesia and everything went to hell since then..

well... wateva it is, we as Malaysians have to support these creative talents... regardless they are very cultural or not.. we have to have that side of positive side for these people bcoz without them, Malaysia will be a boring country full of people working for money god knows what.

Honestly we are not even there yet, so its the fans and supporters to push these people.

I hate seeing OLD wrinkled men in clubs, driving sport cars on the road, owner of a clothing line/clubs/events/etc.. we need young fresh minds now.. when will the day our HOT ladies stop dating ugly old men.. (no offense).

Im a newbie in this hip hop culture/music/trend ..
what is wrong to follow the fashion for that is what they are interested in..
Hip hop isn't about rappers only .. What completes the culture is the combination of all the dressers too.
Posers u term them as they who do not know about hip hop or do not have the sense of hip hop fashion?
That is aint appropriate mate ..

Guys, im to be interested in hip hop .. I need to know a lot of things about hip hop .. where do ya guys hang out? where do ya'll do giggs? i need to make new hip hop frens ..

Not necessarily.. Prefabably all three languages + eng would be nice..
Just like how KLG Sqwad did it..
Anyway it's not the language that u rap, it's what u represent in your rap..
Don't rap and think that ur from the states, rap as a Malaysian rapper..
And it's not the slang that actually differenciate Malaysian rapper from Black rappers, it's the word you use,
don't go "nigga" or use some words that ain't common in Malaysia..

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I think that malaysian hip hop is grow up nowadays..
there's nothin' bad about hip hop in malaysia..
hip hop in malaysia is not the same as hip hop is u.s..
hip hop in malaysia in very independent and if you heard the song and importantly the lyrics, is not about racist or annoying other people...
some song are about where they came from, about the culture in malaysia... song for advise.. and etc..
for the how they dressing, it's up to them...
people can wear what they want as long the name is CLOTHES...

sori..
did u mean that too phat is gone know??

u should think b4 speak man...

from:
too phat die hard fan..

Dont wasting your time on hip-hop scene...Malaysia always like that. In ther 80's rock and metal is the king, then early 90's dangdut,mid 90's there are rap scene, 2000 hip-hop become so popular, now shuffle and the latest indie...just do what you want and dont forget your root. Personally i'm huge fan of 80's heavy metal and hard-rock..eventhough now metal and hard-rock almost dead on Malaysia, i'm still metal!!and i'm still young, almost many teen same my age hate metal..remember, never SELL-OUT

the only problem why hip hop now doesnt win any heart(esp. me) because their song.almost hip hop i heard now,its all bout materialistic,women,money and bla3x.i mean where is the LOVE?what ever happen to lyric?all that i can hear now,all bout money,women, and alot of bad word.
life is not about being rich and famous.yeah mayb they rap bout how hard their life but they dont interpret in more poem-tic way.why can rap hav poem in their song?
i miss what too phat 'anak ayam' so much.i dont noe what too phat up now,but i heard joe flizzo song recently.im not sure bout the title but all i heard is 'duit,duit,duit,duit...'?i mean wth?

not all songs are that... but those kind of hip-hop song are to be perform on stage at parties for example.. cuz u don't expect rapper to perform an emo song on stage during a party rite?
and rap songs also have some meaningful once..
some represent where u from, some talk about their experience and there're also love rap songs...

checkout some of my songs too at http://lilgun.do.am/