For me, I might say Composition rank first. The third option of the poll deal with manual function of camera. If using Auto mode,
I think the output will be ok oredi and can use Photoshop to adjust things like metering etc. And about communication, I don't
think you can communicate with model on the walk way during cat walk.
So I think composition is the best. You must know which angle to shoot. And when to shoot (the best opportunity). Plus luck too.
Full Version: What's the most important Photography technique?
Your choices look very narrow. There are way more techniques photographers use.
QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Feb 22 2008, 12:26 PM)
Your choices look very narrow. There are way more techniques photographers use.
Then can share to us newbie?
for me, its more important to talk / get to know who you're shooting.
its easier if they feel comfortable with us. secondly, composition
i always use the rule of third in my shots. but sometimes it gets a little
boring and tried something new, like point of attention. third, you need
to know how to react / predict whats the subject gonna do, visualize
and ready to shoot it. never let your guard down.
Added on February 22, 2008, 12:31 pm
you can talk to them before you shoot, no?
my tips, i always listens to songs ( various genres, from jazz or anything classical or soothing )
it'll spark errr, an image. thus an instant idea how to compose ady
, owh view alot of
references.
its easier if they feel comfortable with us. secondly, composition
i always use the rule of third in my shots. but sometimes it gets a little
boring and tried something new, like point of attention. third, you need
to know how to react / predict whats the subject gonna do, visualize
and ready to shoot it. never let your guard down.
Added on February 22, 2008, 12:31 pm
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:23 PM)
And about communication, I don't
think you can communicate with model on the walk way during cat walk.
think you can communicate with model on the walk way during cat walk.
you can talk to them before you shoot, no?
my tips, i always listens to songs ( various genres, from jazz or anything classical or soothing )
it'll spark errr, an image. thus an instant idea how to compose ady
, owh view alot ofreferences.
QUOTE(MR.Shiney @ Feb 22 2008, 12:28 PM)
for me, its more important to talk / get to know who you're shooting.
its easier if they feel comfortable with us. secondly, composition
i always use the rule of third in my shots. but sometimes it gets a little
boring and tried something new, like point of attention. third, you need
to know how to react / predict whats the subject gonna do, visualize
and ready to shoot it. never let your guard down.
its easier if they feel comfortable with us. secondly, composition
i always use the rule of third in my shots. but sometimes it gets a little
boring and tried something new, like point of attention. third, you need
to know how to react / predict whats the subject gonna do, visualize
and ready to shoot it. never let your guard down.
Thanks. But as I wrote in my post, we can only communicate with those
who know us. I guess those models on the catwalk is already pro. So
they know what to do without communicating with us...
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:27 PM)
Then can share to us newbie?
I am still a newbie too.
I usually go for composition and right now amongst the settings I look to when snapping photo is first using Aperture/Shutter Priority Mode, the only time I use manual is when shooting the moon. Next, I'd go for ISO, metering and exposure compensation. I use auto WB all the time and when it comes to bokehness, I seldom do so unless for some of the macro shots I take. I have never done much portrait photos.
And I will never use Auto mode on a DSLR.
Added on February 22, 2008, 12:32 pm
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:31 PM)
Thanks. But as I wrote in my post, we can only communicate with those
who know us. I guess those models on the catwalk is already pro. So
they know what to do without communicating with us...
who know us. I guess those models on the catwalk is already pro. So
they know what to do without communicating with us...
Communicate only with models?
I shoot primarily nature/landscape photography.
It sounds like you're the type of photographer who goes for girls only.
QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Feb 22 2008, 12:31 PM)
I am still a newbie too.
I usually go for composition and right now amongst the settings I look to when snapping photo is first using Aperture/Shutter Priority Mode, the only time I use manual is when shooting the moon. Next, I'd go for ISO, metering and exposure compensation. I use auto WB all the time and when it comes to bokehness, I seldom do so unless for some of the macro shots I take. I have never done much portrait photos.
And I will never use Auto mode on a DSLR.
Added on February 22, 2008, 12:32 pm
Communicate only with models?
I shoot primarily nature/landscape photography.
It sounds like you're the type of photographer who goes for girls only.
I usually go for composition and right now amongst the settings I look to when snapping photo is first using Aperture/Shutter Priority Mode, the only time I use manual is when shooting the moon. Next, I'd go for ISO, metering and exposure compensation. I use auto WB all the time and when it comes to bokehness, I seldom do so unless for some of the macro shots I take. I have never done much portrait photos.
And I will never use Auto mode on a DSLR.
Added on February 22, 2008, 12:32 pm
Communicate only with models?
I shoot primarily nature/landscape photography.
It sounds like you're the type of photographer who goes for girls only.
exactly,
photography in not about shooting the hottest chick in town..
btw, i think u can communicate with the landscape / wildlife actually, just that it is not as easy and simple as the usual one..
that why it depend... but as for me... composition go first.. but then u can crop it later in photoshop ekkeke..
QUOTE(MR.Shiney @ Feb 22 2008, 12:28 PM)
for me, its more important to talk / get to know who you're shooting.
its easier if they feel comfortable with us. secondly, composition
i always use the rule of third in my shots. but sometimes it gets a little
boring and tried something new, like point of attention. third, you need
to know how to react / predict whats the subject gonna do, visualize
and ready to shoot it. never let your guard down.
Added on February 22, 2008, 12:31 pm
you can talk to them before you shoot, no?
my tips, i always listens to songs ( various genres, from jazz or anything classical or soothing )
it'll spark errr, an image. thus an instant idea how to compose ady , owh view alot of
references.
its easier if they feel comfortable with us. secondly, composition
i always use the rule of third in my shots. but sometimes it gets a little
boring and tried something new, like point of attention. third, you need
to know how to react / predict whats the subject gonna do, visualize
and ready to shoot it. never let your guard down.
Added on February 22, 2008, 12:31 pm
you can talk to them before you shoot, no?
my tips, i always listens to songs ( various genres, from jazz or anything classical or soothing )
it'll spark errr, an image. thus an instant idea how to compose ady
, owh view alot ofreferences.
Thanks. Yeah, I think view a lot of reference is important for composition.
QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Feb 22 2008, 12:31 PM)
I am still a newbie too.
I usually go for composition and right now amongst the settings I look to when snapping photo is first using Aperture/Shutter Priority Mode, the only time I use manual is when shooting the moon. Next, I'd go for ISO, metering and exposure compensation. I use auto WB all the time and when it comes to bokehness, I seldom do so unless for some of the macro shots I take. I have never done much portrait photos.
And I will never use Auto mode on a DSLR.
Added on February 22, 2008, 12:32 pm
Communicate only with models?
I shoot primarily nature/landscape photography.
It sounds like you're the type of photographer who goes for girls only.
I usually go for composition and right now amongst the settings I look to when snapping photo is first using Aperture/Shutter Priority Mode, the only time I use manual is when shooting the moon. Next, I'd go for ISO, metering and exposure compensation. I use auto WB all the time and when it comes to bokehness, I seldom do so unless for some of the macro shots I take. I have never done much portrait photos.
And I will never use Auto mode on a DSLR.
Added on February 22, 2008, 12:32 pm
Communicate only with models?
I shoot primarily nature/landscape photography.
It sounds like you're the type of photographer who goes for girls only.
Actually I just wonder since someone said communication seems like the most important stuff in photography instead of composition.
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:31 PM)
Thanks. But as I wrote in my post, we can only communicate with those
who know us. I guess those models on the catwalk is already pro. So
they know what to do without communicating with us...
who know us. I guess those models on the catwalk is already pro. So
they know what to do without communicating with us...
i dont get what type of situation you're talking about.
if i dont know the people, i try to talk with them lar. the most
important thing to be this kind of photographer is dont be shy,
people wont bang you punyalah.
or else find a sweet spot to shoot, dont just shoot what we normally see with
our eyes. try different angles or sumthing.
QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:36 PM)
exactly,
photography in not about shooting the hottest chick in town..
btw, i think u can communicate with the landscape / wildlife actually, just that it is not as easy and simple as the usual one..
photography in not about shooting the hottest chick in town..
btw, i think u can communicate with the landscape / wildlife actually, just that it is not as easy and simple as the usual one..
When it comes to landscape, i think the amount of communication would primarily come from the composition and the mood.
How's this?
QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:36 PM)
exactly,
photography in not about shooting the hottest chick in town..
btw, i think u can communicate with the landscape / wildlife actually, just that it is not as easy and simple as the usual one..
photography in not about shooting the hottest chick in town..
btw, i think u can communicate with the landscape / wildlife actually, just that it is not as easy and simple as the usual one..
LOL... actually I just want to take my friends picture. So not really that care about hottest chick in town.
QUOTE(ganz @ Feb 22 2008, 12:37 PM)
that why it depend... but as for me... composition go first.. but then u can crop it later in photoshop ekkeke..
You can crop composition for 4/3rd rule. But not angle. If you shoot from below, no way you can crop until it seems like
shoot from above right?
QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Feb 22 2008, 12:38 PM)
When it comes to landscape, i think the amount of communication would primarily come from the composition and the mood.
How's this?
How's this?
have u tried different exposure on the same spot ?
if u can notice, nice sunset only lasted for few minutes, it will be gone very fast..
that's communication with the landscape loh in think..haha.. u have to observe the nature.
communication with animals will be like catching their attention and makes them look to ur camera when u shoot,
that's one of the way.
and @gogo2,
u can actually communicate with models on the catwalk, u body language such as the eye sights..
another way, if ur gear looks pro enough and looks like from the media, she will usually look on you..
talent + continuous burst mode =
that's me at least.. ahahaha.. i'm thinking of going professional after this.
that's me at least.. ahahaha.. i'm thinking of going professional after this.
QUOTE(dgrebel @ Feb 22 2008, 01:10 PM)
talent + continuous burst mode =
that's me at least.. ahahaha.. i'm thinking of going professional after this.
that's me at least.. ahahaha.. i'm thinking of going professional after this.
am i considered armature right?
i think this is a stupid question.
QUOTE(MR.Shiney @ Feb 22 2008, 01:13 PM)
define professional? i got no idea, seriously.
am i considered armature right?
am i considered armature right?
i'm looking forward to be a young travel photographer. as so far, i've been to many places.. all i need next is to fund for new equipments. maybe one day my name will be well-known throughout the globe, who knows.
professional = plays well with lighting, well-equipped, well-versed in photoshop, state of the art photofolio and go all out just to snap a photo.
at least for me la.. lol.
QUOTE(MR.Shiney @ Feb 22 2008, 01:13 PM)
am i considered armature right?
i think this is a stupid question.
Nah, its not stupid question.
By the way, poll seems to point that composition takes up major photography skill. I agree too.
So let's start sharpening our composition skill with your equipment whether its PnS or newbie dSLR:P
QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:47 PM)
have u tried different exposure on the same spot ?
if u can notice, nice sunset only lasted for few minutes, it will be gone very fast..
that's communication with the landscape loh in think..haha.. u have to observe the nature.
communication with animals will be like catching their attention and makes them look to ur camera when u shoot,
that's one of the way.
if u can notice, nice sunset only lasted for few minutes, it will be gone very fast..
that's communication with the landscape loh in think..haha.. u have to observe the nature.
communication with animals will be like catching their attention and makes them look to ur camera when u shoot,
that's one of the way.
Erm, I dont have much space for composition cause I took it through the kitchen window in my dorm :-p
where is strobe and post processing ? those are skill which alot of photographer uses.
I have no technique nor I do photoshop....
I only know must have enought memory and battery....
If pictures no good, blame the equiptment and upgrade here and there la..
So far it works for me...
I only know must have enought memory and battery....
If pictures no good, blame the equiptment and upgrade here and there la..
So far it works for me...
QUOTE(vincent_audio @ Feb 22 2008, 02:31 PM)
where is strobe and post processing ? those are skill which alot of photographer uses.
Yeah I agree. Now with digital photography, post processing is really important. This is one thing which I have yet to learn much about.
seriously, this poll is just as narrow / pointless as the other one, ironically started by the same person. seriously flawed IMO and it's totally useless to be made into something useful.
there's no way to vote which one is more important because it really depends on what you're shooting!
composition is essential, regardless of what you're shooting.
communication is still important when you're dealing with humans.
whoever said that is not wrong.
if you're shooting humans, communication does make a difference in your shot.
observe how pro photographers like Gil Bensimon communicate with his models? even our local Louis Pang communicates with the subjects around for his composition.
there's no way to vote which one is more important because it really depends on what you're shooting!
QUOTE(ganz @ Feb 22 2008, 12:37 PM)
that why it depend... but as for me... composition go first.. but then u can crop it later in photoshop ekkeke..
composition is essential, regardless of what you're shooting.communication is still important when you're dealing with humans.
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:37 PM)
Actually I just wonder since someone said communication seems like the most important stuff in photography instead of composition.
whoever said that is not wrong.
if you're shooting humans, communication does make a difference in your shot.
observe how pro photographers like Gil Bensimon communicate with his models? even our local Louis Pang communicates with the subjects around for his composition.
QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 22 2008, 04:52 PM)
seriously, this poll is just as narrow / pointless as the other one, ironically started by the same person. seriously flawed IMO and it's totally useless to be made into something useful.
there's no way to vote which one is more important because it really depends on what you're shooting!
composition is essential, regardless of what you're shooting.
communication is still important when you're dealing with humans.
whoever said that is not wrong.
if you're shooting humans, communication does make a difference in your shot.
observe how pro photographers like Gil Bensimon communicate with his models? even our local Louis Pang communicates with the subjects around for his composition.
there's no way to vote which one is more important because it really depends on what you're shooting!
composition is essential, regardless of what you're shooting.communication is still important when you're dealing with humans.
whoever said that is not wrong.
if you're shooting humans, communication does make a difference in your shot.
observe how pro photographers like Gil Bensimon communicate with his models? even our local Louis Pang communicates with the subjects around for his composition.
Luckily not me.
I didn't vote because I am no where to locate between the 3 choices. Actually, its because I don't understand all the 3 choices.
QUOTE(timothyy @ Feb 22 2008, 04:56 PM)
I didn't vote because I am no where to locate between the 3 choices. Actually, its because I don't understand all the 3 choices.
i didn't vote either. i understand what he's talking though but it's just so limited.
photography is more than just those 3 and it's not going to be helpful.
IMO it depends on what shots are you taking, and what you want out of the shots.
i noticed something
i think the important think is breathing
the more ur breathing while snapping
more shacking ur hand aka parkinson
lol
i think the important think is breathing
the more ur breathing while snapping
more shacking ur hand aka parkinson
lol
QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Feb 22 2008, 05:41 PM)
i noticed something
i think the important think is breathing
the more ur breathing while snapping
more shacking ur hand aka parkinson
lol
i think the important think is breathing
the more ur breathing while snapping
more shacking ur hand aka parkinson
lol
Try to use 1/500 and above... You want to shake also hard...
last time i kena
even used tripod also shacked
until my frenz came and knocked my head
saying
"samdol..kenapa tak pakai timer"
how come i know there is timer button
even used tripod also shacked
until my frenz came and knocked my head
saying
"samdol..kenapa tak pakai timer"
how come i know there is timer button
so having fun guys. the no balls guy haven't delete you guys post yet? (really p*u*s*s*y with pistol
I think photography technique got a lot. But generally for newbie, I only know a few. I want to apologise for being a newbie posting newbie stuff.
(really p*u*s*s*y with pistol I think photography technique got a lot. But generally for newbie, I only know a few. I want to apologise for being a newbie posting newbie stuff.
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 22 2008, 05:54 PM)
so having fun guys. the no balls guy haven't delete you guys post yet? (really p*u*s*s*y with pistol
I think photography technique got a lot. But generally for newbie, I only know a few. I want to apologise for being a newbie posting newbie stuff.
(really p*u*s*s*y with pistol I think photography technique got a lot. But generally for newbie, I only know a few. I want to apologise for being a newbie posting newbie stuff.
No problem... I also newbie here asking and talking nonsense a lot...
Btw, you should not feel so piffed with whoever delete your posts la... Mine got deleted too... But just relax...
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 22 2008, 05:54 PM)
so having fun guys. the no balls guy haven't delete you guys post yet? (really p*u*s*s*y with pistol
I think photography technique got a lot. But generally for newbie, I only know a few. I want to apologise for being a newbie posting newbie stuff.
(really p*u*s*s*y with pistol I think photography technique got a lot. But generally for newbie, I only know a few. I want to apologise for being a newbie posting newbie stuff.
gogo2,
i've seen the wedding photographer thread, looks like one of our mods invisibled those posts of yours (and TheVOIP, who so happen to be entertaining you).
i read through it and looks like your posts DO deserve to be invisibled (not deleted, but only hidden. a wise moderator that was. at least other mods have proof of what you posted). while these guys above are still within the confines of photography, your post went on to cars..........OPTRA to be specific. (edited : sorry, Camry was someone else within the same thread........hehe)
here's what you posted.....
QUOTE
I remember wendymelon selling car one. Still got Optra 1.8 for RM58k ar?
QUOTE
wah, got people who hate me in this forum. my post got deleted.
anyway, wendylemon, still got sell Optra 1.8?
anyway, wendylemon, still got sell Optra 1.8?
QUOTE
I have a feeling that the person who want to delete my post is still lurking in this thread..... hope he won't delete again. I wonder who is the stupid fella who wanna delete my post la. a lot of people also out of topic sometimes. but he purposely wanna delete my thread. i guess that guy has no balls to confront me if he hates me...
couple that with your signature.
QUOTE
Some people have no balls to tell me what I'm doing wrong and advice me but instead doing things behind my back. This people are called coward. Or as Shoot Em Up movie said, "[P]U[S]SY with a gun! LOL!".
you spammed, totally WAY out of topic and now you got the cheek to go name-calling towards a person who's doing his / her job in cleaning up the mess.
and not only that, you carried it here and WITH your above post.
anyway - I'm going to give you a 10% warning + and 3 days weekend leave for your general lack of manners in forum, the lack of respect towards the forum R&R and the people who are taking care of it.
edited : guys, sorry for the disturbance in the post. thank you.
Hopefully gogo2 will learn some basic manners and apply good ethics when he's back from his holidays. We don't need a joker who posts kopitiam kind of posts here.
QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Feb 22 2008, 06:27 PM)
Hopefully gogo2 will learn some basic manners and apply good ethics when he's back from his holidays. We don't need a joker who posts kopitiam kind of posts here.
Felt like same warning is given to me...
Sometime talk cock cannot?
QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Feb 22 2008, 06:31 PM)
Sometime talk cock cannot?
if sometimes cannot talk cock then you (and many others) would get quite a number of warns already.
i mentioned on quite a few post, keep the spam down.
note the words i used, just keep it down. meaning don't go overboard la. we're not THAT strict mah, right?gogo2 had to gogo for a bit, spam was probably a teensy part of the reason.
anyway continue the jolly postings.besides the sucky poll, i believe the thread about technique is worth discussing.
most important technique in photography? is there any? to me, importance is really dependant on what you're snapping and what result you want.
patience and humble in the learning and technique sharing process..
QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Feb 22 2008, 06:42 PM)
patience and humble in the learning and technique sharing process..
My style is different... just shoot shoot shoot.. feel good? Then shoot? Thinking of some picture in mind, try it out immediately... It is like more like want to pangsai, then pangsai...
So far it works...
Anyway, I feel kind of tension and also realise I had been given 10% warning... Hmmm.... suddenly feel no fun now...
Better go to pangsai la...
you need to learn how to have fun without spamming. 
anyway i think pangsai is a good analogy from inspiration. when it comes, you just have to do it. but at least can hold back.
but then from what you mentioned, it looks more like your photography STYLE than a TECHNIQUE.
Definition.....
# The systematic procedure by which a complex or scientific task is accomplished.
# The way in which the fundamentals, as of an artistic work, are handled.
# Skill or command in handling such fundamentals. See synonyms at
anyway i think pangsai is a good analogy from inspiration. when it comes, you just have to do it.
but at least can hold back.but then from what you mentioned, it looks more like your photography STYLE than a TECHNIQUE.
Definition.....
# The systematic procedure by which a complex or scientific task is accomplished.
# The way in which the fundamentals, as of an artistic work, are handled.
# Skill or command in handling such fundamentals. See synonyms at
Well, each of us will have their own opinion and all others will always think admin or MOD very strict and they got no lives...
Donno why... anywhere we go... sure got same problem.
But having fun without spamming... I guess its sometimes kinda boring.
Ops... off topic already.
Donno why... anywhere we go... sure got same problem.
But having fun without spamming... I guess its sometimes kinda boring.
Ops... off topic already.
hehe. which is why we understand that, which is why i said "keep it down". get it.
k k back to topic.
get it. k k back to topic.
the most important technique in photography is getting your subject in focus!
if your subjects all out of focus, no amount of composing, pp'ing or communication of sorts will help you. hehehe
less you intentionally not focus on your subject. thats a different story all together.
if your subjects all out of focus, no amount of composing, pp'ing or communication of sorts will help you.
heheheless you intentionally not focus on your subject. thats a different story all together.
i think the most important for photog is how to "see" with the camera.
most people said they imagine it first, then try to capture it with their gears (here comes your skills with gears) or aerobatic/stunt/shameless maneuver (for composition).
i still missed a lot of opportunity coz i can't "see" ahead. sometimes when i reviewed my pics, it will cross me, why didn't i do this or that instead
some say u can learn it. some say it's talent.
most people said they imagine it first, then try to capture it with their gears (here comes your skills with gears) or aerobatic/stunt/shameless maneuver (for composition).
i still missed a lot of opportunity coz i can't "see" ahead. sometimes when i reviewed my pics, it will cross me, why didn't i do this or that instead
some say u can learn it. some say it's talent.
Lesson learned: Do not fight with the authority. You'll be at the losing end. Follow Forum's R&R and you'll be safe.
best technique? well...i think its depend of what u wanna shoot. either macro...wedding...landscape etc. but...seems i prefer streetshoot as my style...so i'm always apply a tips by David Petersons as below... its just for my guidence..
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I think the most important thing is to know the basics first: EXPOSURE. Especially when shooting with a DSLR/SLR. Exposure is always the first and of greatest importance in my opinion. "Photography is about the art of drawing with light" (taken from a book), so a good pictures must first have a good exposure.
Of course, you can purposely and wrongly expose a frame and call it artistic, but that a different matter. You still need to understand exposure to be able to do it.
Composition and communication with subject is also important to be able to get it right to the people who are looking at your photographs. But that is based on creativity and social skills. Its all tied up though and all are important. Another important aspect is appreciation. If you are shooting nature and buildings, you must be able to appreciate your subjects to be able to capture the best composition. Things like weather, time of the day, the environment, etc all comes back to your exposure. Capturing different moments of life, motion, stills, etc all comes back to exposure. Exposure also relies to you to be 'exposed' to the environment (like street photography) to be able to capture the best and relevant details of the environment.
Of course, you can purposely and wrongly expose a frame and call it artistic, but that a different matter. You still need to understand exposure to be able to do it.
Composition and communication with subject is also important to be able to get it right to the people who are looking at your photographs. But that is based on creativity and social skills. Its all tied up though and all are important. Another important aspect is appreciation. If you are shooting nature and buildings, you must be able to appreciate your subjects to be able to capture the best composition. Things like weather, time of the day, the environment, etc all comes back to your exposure. Capturing different moments of life, motion, stills, etc all comes back to exposure. Exposure also relies to you to be 'exposed' to the environment (like street photography) to be able to capture the best and relevant details of the environment.
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 26 2008, 08:25 AM)
Lesson learned: Do not fight with the authority. You'll be at the losing end. Follow Forum's R&R and you'll be safe.
Wellcome back brother!
i think my most important photography technique is my ability to see.
can it be considered as a technique?
can it be considered as a technique?
i believe your 'non-communicating' option means Candid?
If that's the case then I think composition is the most important aspect, cause composition can determine whether a photo taken is 'normal' or 'captivating'.
If that's the case then I think composition is the most important aspect, cause composition can determine whether a photo taken is 'normal' or 'captivating'.
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