I was wondering how many SLR in the market can survive this type of abuse :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv2oR_RzIR4&feature=related

Sony A200 can

I'd believe it if you try it on your camera hellfire.

i tried it in hong kong already..

but i dont have the video la just have a pic on my wet e3..

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Added on February 20, 2008, 1:43 pmRain wont make me run for shelter...

This is nothing la... I had seen a couple of 1D mark II users shooting in heavy rain + washing thier camera far worst than that.

Even Canon EOS 40D also ok in heavy rain of about 20 minutes... with everything completely wet, far worst than the test shown here and all ok... tested.

So far those that fail the tests include Canon EOS 20D and all Nikon that I had seen. And yes the victims of failures do feel stupid after the tests. I guess thier pride and emotional impulses overwrite thier sense of logic at that time. They were just over confident due to misleading marking hype, with some brand claiming they have lots of weather seal materials here and there. Also please do not think D2x is really a tought camera. Dun be cheated by its looks, its price & class and so call 'feel'.

So far from my experinces and knowledge, only the Canon 1D series can tahan... But I do not know why the latest mark III series change to lition battery. The battery itsel will cause limitation already... Stupid Canon...

Anyway, I yet to know the 'performance' from D300 and D3 users as I found those new Nikon consumer, who are also new to photography, taking care of thier gears too much. So now a bit hard to know... Maybe someone with D300 can show us the demo on the model shooting / outing? or maybe have to wait until thier gears are over 1 years old then they might try the tests?

1d mark II can buy 3 e3 lo..

yeah one day should have TT and test on the camera..heheh if the owner allow la..

And I have no databases on cheaper camera such as Canon 300D, 350D, 400D, Nikon D40, D50, D70 etc... I guess because this group of people has budget constrait and cannot afford to loose thier camera just because of a stupid test.

So far the cheapest and dare to try are Canon 20D as well as Nikon D200.

<Deleted, It is wrong to simply share victim's story online that they hate to see... Sorry... >

I also remember Mac used to advisersed as smallest super computer in the world, which are baseless statements. And I can't believe so many people are buying this statements because they are so convinced of it being advertised on the large billboard.

Sometime I also feel like laughting when Proton technician in thier service center classify thier Iswara to Vois, Wira to Altis and Perdana to Camry. But I did not laught because they are really serious. I guess it is what they being taught in training classes. They just have no ideas on the differences...

* Please let me know if I over-step the bondaries of posting some infomation online, which might hurt others who is already sad with dissapointment. I will delete whatever nessarry.

Of course classify Iswara = Vios. Both are cheapest of their brand

Anyway, this thread reminds me of why I didn't buy K10D. Body is weather seal. But weather sealed lens going to cost a lot..

Suddenly, VOIP so serious...

People sharing the truth from his experience/knowledge mah...

Yo... I also feel funny....

Wait... Is it my impression to you guys that I am siao-siao or funny-funny one ar?


I just concern if the victim saw my post might really do bad damage ma...

It is indeed a unexpected very bad experince for him. It is important, and it is why he brought 2 unit of the camera there, but still kong... If I remember, the cameras were kong on the very early days... and no camera to continue shooting for the rests of the duration... Really bad...

But I have to say these... One really have to know your camera limitation. And try not to over confident because of marketing hype. Marketing hype is just marketing hype

somewhat I feel that your opinion statement contradict each other.

one time you blame those who didn't dare to test their camera durability


and one time you condemn those who push their camera based on paper spec

Siao-Lang like that one ma... Now only you know ar?

And honestly speaking, there are lots of contradicting decision in my minds... Example; I love eating ais-cream, but it will gain fat... Or.... I love 1Ds mark III for the resolutions and builts, but I cannot afford it...

yeah, I love 40d. but still haven't buy. i do love SSS in Sony. should i get A200?
i think i'm more siao that u la....

It is not easy to be more siao than me la...

I am already very geng liao....


Wait... I did not blame those people for not daring to try la... I just make the general statement nia... which make logical sense la...

I still remember one HK guy used to ask me one question; "You want your pictures, or your camera". And I always remember his words when taking pictures in bad weathers.

Pour water like that is a bit extreme la. If kena hujan a bit makes sense. If it's raining cats and dogs what the heck are you going to shoot ? XD I dunno if a Nikon would still work after pouring water like that, but at least D300 did make it to Antarctica.

Brother, that pouring water is nothing la...

If you have seen in real actions....

Hmmm, there's no doubt that the E3 has the best weather and dust proofing to date.

Hellfire: to stop fanboyism here, i'd suggest that you do your own mini test to prove it to them

February issue of Practical Photography did the test on E3 too. Go check it out.

Try pour teh tarik la.

it never show if the oly survived ? never take an snap snap after splashing water ?

i dont understand u guys la...when we are showing some pros of certain camera makes u are claim it is fanboyism, false claim, marketing hype...

but ask yourself this question if the slr in youtube is a canon or nikon i wonder what the response will turn out to be...

TheVoip do gives a lot of constructive feedback and experience to share but some of you guys are just pure fanboy who can;t get over the fact that some slr have it pro somewhere..such as weatherproofing..etc..

It is not a secret the the 4 year old E1 can survive the north pole and lot of harsh condition...

http://www.wintergreen.smugmug.com/gallery...355143#77355143

And please read the brochure properly 40d do not have full weather proofing on all the slr body part.,,eg battery compartment, flash, battery compartment, lens...

but e3 does..

Well we all are fanboys of our own camera brand that we use. If you're not using E-3 yourself would you post this video here? Anyway, no doubt that E-3 is the best camera to work in harsh conditions.

Ya... You are right...

Being fanboy is no good... These photography thread should focus back on photography...

Actually weather seal or not might has some edge at some time... at least the camera still functoning at important moment. But most of the time it is not important at all.

IMO, the most important is how to know the young and pretty gals and ask them for photoshoot... It is why I always respect Ahleong and shinchan for doing such fine jobs continuous. They are the true photographers that making good uses of thier gears....

Now we are talking about photography...

TheVoip

you are rite this is the most important stuff..but too bad i am not part of the white and dark force..is there any chance i join any of those session and learn from you guys?

I see no problems on that...

I believe white or dark side of camera does not matter, as long as it can take great lenglui pictures, then it is good camera.


I also dun shoot lenglui much.... Those gurus always shoot solo nia...

have a 400D here but I sure NOT gonna try that out, let the manufacturer try it out and give result lah...
Btw, anyone knows DSLR level like mine can withstand how much wetness/conditions? so far harsh condition my camera meet is... my own very very sweaty palm!

There's reason behind this. If too many ppl, model will be afraid they might get gang-raped. Especially when there are many with hamsap faces. Like my friend he always shoot girls alone without bringing me, although we're close friends

hmm..shoot solo ah... have to go clubbing and find models already or hire chinadoll

400D, very light rain for half an hour is ok.... but better use better lense that has deep lense hood, or else the rain stain on lense also ruin the pictures. But most camera should be ok with light rain...

Normal rain level should not be able to tahan la....

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Added on February 20, 2008, 5:03 pm
Gang-rape???? Wah... Siao meh...

Ic, thx for the reply
gosh I have no lens hood yet... and it's raining season here, hard to get the sun out too nowadays

Wait...

The 400D is tested with my friend... I think I should check with my friend if his 400D is still ok without stain on the view finder, sensor etc...

Gone throught the tests does not mean passing the tests... I forgot...

better not risk it..there are a lot of place that need rubber seal to prevent water from damaging the slr..eg battery compartment, flash, lcd, memory card compartment, buttons

if the manufacturer did not mention about weatherseal and you survive it does not mean you can do it often..imagine the sensor kaput or some electronic stuff inside die..sure your manufacturer will not honor the warranty..unlike if your manufacturer did mention it is weatherseal, they still honor their warranty..

We can 'cheat', telling the manufactor on dunno why the camera just kong when we wake up!

heheh not until they find water mark inside the camera..

How about asking them back how come got water mark neh?

And then condemn back thier product la...

good one...

My neighbour actually has his spoilt A70 upgraded (free) to new A80 using similar method...

Canon... Delighting You Always...

cheapest weather sealing ....clear plastic bag...cut a snug fitting hole on the plastic bag for the lens ... or plenty of cheap plastic cover accesory with a clear translucent part for the lens..

or with 40d and a wifi transmitter.. the camera can be completely sealed and you can be under the shade, drinking starbucks with a laptop controlling your shots..

Ziploc bag can even go underwater.

My uncle accidentally spilled whole cup of coffee onto his 400D + 24-105 L. Right after that, the pop-up flash kong. He blowed it with hair dryer for hours. Eventually the camera works perfectly.

avoid buying 400d from datto's uncle. .

lol. no worries dude. he's from australia.