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Veron83
I personally like this HERO due to not so hard to use...his skills are quite common for me as I played Razor quite a lot...
Any guys here can share their experience in playing this HERO and how you all build this HERO(items and which skill to be build first)... rclxms.gif
webbie
when i get these heroes in game(normaly ar) i wil go for agi item such as butter,sny. another build is agi as well..butter,maelstorm. other is like a must item such as powerthread.i NEVER will build this heroes the int style bcs its just scuk a lot brows.gif
Quick`
why suck if its int build?
alot of ppl tend to neglect raijin 1st skill which was suppose to be the skill to provide max speed for raijin
and go for items such as butter sny mkb and all
technically i would prefer to go for a Guinsoo 1st...guinsoo is important for that hero though..nobody is going to stand there and let u shoot till death..unless u have other teammates that can disable...then perhaps u can straight go for dmg/speed built
Guinsoo gives damage + disable + giving more mana for the 1st skill to activate for a longer time
after guinsoo if it stays int build..perhaps item like orchid which also gives speed,dmg and partially disable

otherwise..like he said any item after that is fine
some would go mjolnir..some mkb..some i dunno what
basically any item would work well...as long as you win the game..you would think positive on your item build

wreckens15
i would just get permaslow(eagle horn) for itor probblysuperfast farm desolater and go assault if can out deso at 12 sure own oledi biggrin.gif
guinsoo dont add much damage so even u can get guinsoo as ur 1st item u still cant kill b/c of lack of damage unless got super sayur d
scyap
i'd buy EUL first
cuz powerthread+EUL = lots dmg/ fast mana (perma electric rave) and fast ms to chase ppl and its nice since u got 3rd spell not to mention spell barrier for some protection while chasing . and eul provides protection cuz cyclone ppl

i first eul , pt , then go damage like mkb
kRaZy
i will get maelstrom (coz his name storm spirit ma..got lightning come out can match him =P), then depends on situation i will c mj 1st or guinsoo..no guinsoo kenot la..always not enuff mana 2 use electric rave plus like Quick` said ppl wun stand there let u shoot till die so get a guinsoo and u can kill on ur own no need depend on ppl haha..i wun get butterfly coz expensive and i think doesn not work so well wif int hero so i prefer AC hehe =P
Dai`dai
nonononono..........buy dagon 5 necromonicon 3 and dagger and........i oso dono
Quick`
sorry i beg to differ....
guinsoo adds enough dmg...its good enough if u use it wisely
u havent count the 3-4 seconds an enemy can receive in dmg ( dmg dealt by yourself or with your teammate)
like i said...no hero is going to stand there and let u hit nicely...
they can run anytime they want...with the aid of their temmate or so
and dota is a team game remember!....unless u plan to be rambo solo and hunt yourself


Batusai
i would personally buy get maelstorm den mjlinor den guinsoo perhaps..
den jou mkb or butterfly.. if ur good u dont need guinsoo to kill u can jus bakstab n u can doo enuf dmg to kill before he can run..
kRaZy
QUOTE(Dai`dai @ Feb 22 2008, 11:01 AM)
nonononono..........buy dagon 5 necromonicon 3 and dagger and........i oso dono
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1 hero only 6 slot...5+1 = 6
so wat else u wanna and? =P

i prefer do things alone ma haha XD wat if ur teammates are those who play on their own 1? =x
erikachen
hi there,

I like this hero cuz its very cute... >_<"

i did some gooogling and some author say storm needs 3 bracers to survive in the game, and then followed by MKB. Any suggestions on the STARTING GAME items ar?

I really wan to master this panda >.<
skzisghost
drink and foods
evofantasy
make the new int item than need 3 oblivion staff (atk speed, reduce armor, int, mana regen, damage)
its easy to get the pieces...
of course the first item to get is a threads...

i usuallgo go threads -> 3 oblivion staff (form the item) -> deso
sk3pt|c
FOR me..Early game..takut mati get bracerSss...follow by orchid...guinsoo...then Maelstrom..With the electric wave boost up the attack speed...and dmg from orchid n maelstrom...guinsoo as disabler...i love with these item build=D
LittleGhost
QUOTE(erikachen @ Oct 3 2008, 08:47 AM)
hi there,

I like this hero cuz its very cute... >_<"

i did some gooogling and some author say storm needs 3 bracers to survive in the game, and then followed by MKB. Any suggestions on the STARTING GAME items ar?

I really wan to master this panda >.<
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NO WAI.

Girls playing dota? Woot. I'd really like to play against girls for once in my life.

Bracers are generally rushed if you want some early game hunting. If you want to be a semi-carry and hunt mid game, best if you farm kau kau out desolator and then hunt with your team mates asap.

There's no need for guinsoo if your team already has a zeus/akasha or early casters.

jason18689
lots and lots of items suggestions given above...

i just want to say...

buy items according 2 your opponent`s hero and your allied heroes..

for this hero...

dmg and speed is the most important thing...

BKB is a good one....
if dont wish to get run out of mana, guinsoo also good...
maelstorm is my good item...
i personally love to go for BOT....with 3rd skill, you can chase and hit well..
St.Daring
I get 5 basher ....1000% win, nv lost b4
erikachen
QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Oct 3 2008, 04:19 PM)
NO WAI.

Girls playing dota? Woot. I'd really like to play against girls for once in my life.

Bracers are generally rushed if you want some early game hunting. If you want to be a semi-carry and hunt mid game, best if you farm kau kau out desolator and then hunt with your team mates asap.

There's no need for guinsoo if your team already has a zeus/akasha or early casters.
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lol... I just started with Garena... always kena scold like siao by team mates.. >______<
called me "sohai noob" and all.... zzzZzz...

I not good at getting money... any suggestions on item to buy?
LittleGhost
QUOTE(erikachen @ Oct 4 2008, 01:28 AM)
lol... I just started with Garena... always kena scold like siao by team mates.. >______<
called me "sohai noob" and all.... zzzZzz...

I not good at getting money... any suggestions on item to buy?
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the advantage of being a girl is:

If you tell them you're a chick, they'll definitely cut you some slack.

I think for orb walkers like these, you definitely have to brush up your last hitting and farming skills. Desolator is devastating provided you can farm it out under 20 minutes. It's plausible if you have a good teammate and you managed to kill a few times of your lane opponent during early game.

I would probably rush early items like bracers or nulls to start hunting early though tongue.gif Not really a fan of farming all day long and playing carry.



IcyDarling
dun invest on mp, its mp recover very quickly.

lets see, i got myself MKB, butterfly,Preseverance, SnY,Boots of Travel and Hand of Midas(or hyperstone)

Fu, if u start the electric rave, like machine gun~~ Centaur kena hit, run back base cry,

P/S: This int hero is good late game,


Added on October 5, 2008, 5:15 pm
QUOTE(erikachen @ Oct 4 2008, 02:28 AM)
lol... I just started with Garena... always kena scold like siao by team mates.. >______<
called me "sohai noob" and all.... zzzZzz...

I not good at getting money... any suggestions on item to buy?
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Common survival items: Ring of Regen, Tangoes

Hohohoho, I also quite newbie, lvl 8 nia, cannot lvl up~.~

Anyway, if u new to dota, i recommend u play heroes like sniper/axe,

Reason: All they do is shoot or attack from far, they dun need to use the skill often

Sniper: Wraith band, MKB(optional but it think quite important), Helm or dominate(can make satanic too if u too rich)
Butterfly(pls use ur common sense to arrange them) Obviously, Wraith come first, than helm, than MKB/Butterfly, depends


Axe: Vanguard(important)Reason:U will be abusing counter helix, but to do so, u need to get whack, and getting whack is painful.. So, vanguard can help u tahan
Heart of Tarrasque: Longer survivability
I think this 2 item edi cukup for axe, i dont see why he needs any damage item, cause he spins XD
For me: I buy 2 vanguard 3 hearts

DONT EVER BUY BUTTERFLY FOR AXE: Reason:If he evade he cant spin, he cant spin, his useless XD


I used storm spirit as my first hero hehehe

Now im abusing Bounty Hunter hehehee
LittleGhost
^2 vanguards for Axe is a waste.

My recommendation is rush core items (bracers x2, Boots, 1x Vanguard, and a DAGGER ASAP).

Axe is quite useless late game. You should get your ganking items asap. For late game just farm a Heart/BKB and you'll be fine.



Flizzardo
AXE USELESS LATE GAME?

HAVE U SEEN AXE WITH DIVINE RAPIER + SATANIC + HEART + ASSAULT + SANGE AND YASHA AND POWER THREAD?
LittleGhost
Flizzardo, stop trolling lah.

You could farm those items if you're playing against public.

If you're playing team based games, how would it be possible to farm those items.

Anyway, ANY carry heroes with those items will dominate anyway, so your point is pretty moot.

murzark
depends on your enemy.
if you are against nuker or anonoying hero that can escape like pl, bone, void, potm ,etc.....
you might want to consider Orchid.
otherwise get Guinsoo as your core item.

early game get 2 or 3 bracers .
as for lategame items....
i have seen some people get Helm of dominator > Satanic, and they can actually own.
and you might want to consider MKB(good to counter TP), Moljonir(just see your enemy get struck by lightning).
his ultimate may looks simple but you can use it in many ways.(escaping gank, initiate gank, split enemy heroes)

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St.Daring
I usually get dagger...blink in and pull all the enemies into my base fountain.
zaifer
my playing style

5 wood + full tango as u got money at start

then slowly a PT + 5 wood

then PT+ hex + some misc u think u wan
gg

***strictly depend on opponent***
GrandElf
tis was 1 of my fav hero....last time out i tends to buy maelstrom due to high damage...but later late game i find out tat this build a bit hard to win against those hero who buy life steal item.....so i change my strategy now to buying the item tat combine 3x oblivion staff for its more damage output +silence skill tat hurts like hell.....n also satanic becoz frankly speaking int hero tends to be a bit taufu just for ur information....BoT is a must for me to not waste another slot for the portal.....others just mix up as u like......i dun prefer butterfly actually becoz the bonus damage is not tat much since he is not an agi hero...... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

btw i really do think newbie shouldnt try using axe if ur not master with it becoz axe user should be brave to rush in front n not stand behind....happens everytime when i saw those no balls axe....really tulan..... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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