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squall_kay
QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jun 9 2008, 07:06 PM)
yeah, se really losing the grip in camera part
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yalor...nowadays samsung n nokia really pwnd SE in camera...i wonder why SE doesnt implement their cybershot camera tech in their phone (not js name) or perhaps make their phone's camera as good as those SE Japanese's phones...like SO905iCS
edtan5
QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jun 9 2008, 08:21 PM)
yalor...nowadays samsung n nokia really pwnd SE in  camera...i wonder why SE doesnt implement their cybershot camera tech in their phone (not js name) or perhaps make their phone's camera as good as those SE Japanese's phones...like SO905iCS
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maybe it's due to japanese market require a higher spec to fight with other brands??? hmm.gif
other part of the world, they think they still is the "best"? hmm.gif
squall_kay
QUOTE(edtan5 @ Jun 10 2008, 10:01 AM)
maybe it's due to japanese market require a higher spec to fight with other brands??? hmm.gif
other part of the world, they think they still is the "best"? hmm.gif
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haha...yerp...quite double standard action tongue.gif
teikwing
QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jun 9 2008, 06:58 PM)
5mpx but  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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that's with Image Stabilizer? kinda disappointed with it. looks like K810i's is much better.
iRonTech
Seem like SE 5MP tak boleh harap banyak.. sweat.gif will looking forward for C902 5MP review sweat.gif sweat.gif (the only hope??)
squall_kay
QUOTE(iRonTech @ Jun 11 2008, 07:45 AM)
Seem like SE 5MP tak boleh harap banyak.. sweat.gif will looking forward for C902 5MP review sweat.gif sweat.gif (the only hope??)
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more or less might be same.... sweat.gif
nway, lets hope it will perform better
edtan5
any idea there will be upgraded or facelifted G900 soon?
if yes wat model will it be?
squall_kay
QUOTE(edtan5 @ Jun 11 2008, 11:54 AM)
any idea there will be upgraded or facelifted G900 soon?
if yes wat model will it be?
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ohooo...the g900 js launch, so the fastest its successor will come out might be after 6months++
iRonTech
Same timing with X1 ?
cyew86
X1 3.2MP camera, this 1 5MP camera, but not that it make much difference neway
edtan5
QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jun 11 2008, 12:53 PM)
ohooo...the g900 js launch, so the fastest its successor will come out might be after 6months++
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coz i heard some one saying tat there is a face lift for G900 as the design is really bored tongue.gif
squall_kay
QUOTE(edtan5 @ Jun 11 2008, 06:59 PM)
coz i heard some one saying tat there is a face lift for G900 as the design is really bored tongue.gif
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dunno la bro...but it might be...who knows biggrin.gif
tplcaik
QUOTE(tiffneedle @ Jun 9 2008, 06:48 AM)
someone requested me to take photo with a "running fan"

with Image Stabilizer, without flash
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Wah..the camera quality damn suk. looks like W850 quality only.
naq_saviola
QUOTE(tiffneedle @ Jun 9 2008, 07:48 AM)
someone requested me to take photo with a "running fan"

with Image Stabilizer, without flash
[attachmentid=492746]
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tq bro notworthy.gif
aiya.. y like that hah?
my fren k810 can do "stop fan" huhu

if got better frmwre it will be better?
G-Izzat
Some shots from the G900. It's not taken by me, but by davidsic from esato.
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iRonTech
QUOTE(G-Izzat @ Jun 13 2008, 07:44 AM)
Some shots from the G900. It's not taken by me, but by davidsic from esato.
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fuyoo!! very nice place taken from G900!! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
squall_kay
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nice...this pics really change my opinion towards G900...so, i wonder how come the fan pictures taken by our forumer looks kinda bad hmm.gif
is there any setting that will make the pics look as the one u posted?
edtan5
hmm.... those pics are really sharp. but colour is so-so lo
but what the heck.. juz a camera phone, dun expect too much smile.gif
iRonTech
QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jun 13 2008, 09:39 AM)
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nice...this pics really change my opinion towards G900...so, i wonder how come the fan pictures taken by our forumer looks kinda bad  hmm.gif
is there any setting that will make the pics look as the one u posted?
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environment lighting issue biggrin.gif IMO the 'running fan' pic kinda dark
deathclaw
I've just finished reading all the postings in esato forum on the SE G900 discussion. Not too bad based on the responses from the users on the camera function. Looks like the phone is not that bad at all to take pictures. Waiting to get mine soon...
teikwing
i think in order for the photos to look nice & sharp, good lighting is needed. just like all other camera phones. smile.gif
cyew86
but if u look at what the forummers posted, even under good lighting condition (e.g. in the shop), the photos somehow aren't as good as the esato's
and yeah, altho esato's photos are clear enough, but the colours fall short in comparison to nokia's
i noticed that the same thing happened with their older cybershot models too (e.g. K810)
angelayen
QUOTE(cyew86 @ Jun 13 2008, 05:17 PM)
but if u look at what the forummers posted, even under good lighting condition (e.g. in the shop), the photos somehow aren't as good as the esato's
and yeah, altho esato's photos are clear enough, but the colours fall short in comparison to nokia's
i noticed that the same thing happened with their older cybershot models too (e.g. K810)
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FW issue??
cyew86
QUOTE(angelayen @ Jun 13 2008, 05:27 PM)
FW issue??
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would FW helps much? K850 users have been hoping that FW would help them with the phone's problems, but seem like those FW does not help much
squall_kay
QUOTE(cyew86 @ Jun 13 2008, 05:17 PM)
but if u look at what the forummers posted, even under good lighting condition (e.g. in the shop), the photos somehow aren't as good as the esato's
and yeah, altho esato's photos are clear enough, but the colours fall short in comparison to nokia's
i noticed that the same thing happened with their older cybershot models too (e.g. K810)
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wow...thats quite a fishy if others cannot good pictures as the one which posted above hmm.gif
G-Izzat
QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jun 13 2008, 09:39 AM)
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nice...this pics really change my opinion towards G900...so, i wonder how come the fan pictures taken by our forumer looks kinda bad  hmm.gif
is there any setting that will make the pics look as the one u posted?
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He said that the settings were all auto except that he decreased the exposure a bit.
amdx
just got mine yesterday. i bought the dark brown (black color to me...) version.

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photo taken via the touch focus in 5mp. (close up)

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mine is AP set.. support chinese input/viewing fyi. overall.. quite impressive...

a little drawback on this device, it only support WIFI B... come on SE... my nokia e51 support b/g...
royalz
QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 15 2008, 08:55 PM)
just got mine yesterday. i bought the dark brown (black color to me...) version.

[attachmentid=498761]

photo taken via the touch focus in 5mp. (close up)

[attachmentid=498764]
mine is AP set.. support chinese input/viewing fyi. overall.. quite impressive...

a little drawback on this device, it only support WIFI B... come on SE... my nokia e51 support b/g...
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how much u bought? what comes with the package?
angelayen
QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 15 2008, 08:55 PM)
just got mine yesterday. i bought the dark brown (black color to me...) version.

[attachmentid=498761]

photo taken via the touch focus in 5mp. (close up)

[attachmentid=498764]
mine is AP set.. support chinese input/viewing fyi. overall.. quite impressive...

a little drawback on this device, it only support WIFI B... come on SE... my nokia e51 support b/g...
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congrats. how many days the battery life can last?
cyew86
i have a request to the owners of this handphone:
could u guys be kind enough to take some outdoor photos for our references here? as u all can see, esato guy seemed to be able to take some good quality photos out of this G900, i wonder if we could do the same here using the same configuration smile.gif
deathclaw
After searching for quite some time, finally got the chance to see and touch the actual G900 phone in lowyat last Saturday. Nice phone and the d-pad and other buttons are easily accessible. Quoted price for the AP set was RM1,760 but managed to negotiate to RM1,5xx. Didn't get it yet because I'm still waiting for the ori set to be released and to do a price comparison first.


Added on June 16, 2008, 11:05 am
QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 15 2008, 08:55 PM)

a little drawback on this device, it only support WIFI B... come on SE... my nokia e51 support b/g...
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I'm surprised that only wifi b is supported. It is stated in gsmarena that it is wifi b/g. Unfortunately, I can't find any wifi specs in the official se website. Anybody can help to confirm?
iRonTech
QUOTE(deathclaw @ Jun 16 2008, 10:55 AM)
After searching for quite some time, finally got the chance to see and touch the actual G900 phone in lowyat last Saturday. Nice phone and the d-pad and other buttons are easily accessible. Quoted price for the AP set was RM1,760 but managed to negotiate to RM1,5xx. Didn't get it yet because I'm still waiting for the ori set to be released and to do a price comparison first.


Added on June 16, 2008, 11:05 am

I'm surprised that only wifi b is supported. It is stated in gsmarena that it is wifi b/g. Unfortunately, I can't find any wifi specs in the official se website. Anybody can help to confirm?
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doh.gif LYN http://forum.lowyat.net/HandphonesandRelatedAccessories pricing less than Rm 1.5k, AP.

davidmak
QUOTE(deathclaw @ Jun 16 2008, 10:55 AM)
After searching for quite some time, finally got the chance to see and touch the actual G900 phone in lowyat last Saturday. Nice phone and the d-pad and other buttons are easily accessible. Quoted price for the AP set was RM1,760 but managed to negotiate to RM1,5xx. Didn't get it yet because I'm still waiting for the ori set to be released and to do a price comparison first.


Added on June 16, 2008, 11:05 am

I'm surprised that only wifi b is supported. It is stated in gsmarena that it is wifi b/g. Unfortunately, I can't find any wifi specs in the official se website. Anybody can help to confirm?
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I already got my set last weekend. Got it at RM1480 (AP set) and the sales package is quite comprehensive. It includes a original SE bluetooth handsfree receiver. Be cautious that some traders remove this item from the sales package in order to give you a more competitive price. Manage to get screen protector and carrying case (3rd party) also. Although this is my first UIQ symbian phone, it is a joy to use. The D-pad makes it more intuitive than previous UIQ phones relying main only touch and jog dial.

It only supports WIFI B (as indicated at the box) and it does not have HSPDA/3.5G. Only the regular 3G speeds. But that is not important because I rely much on the WIFI capability. Get this G900 (be it AP or original) because it is really different. My first impression was that UIQ phones are laggy as indicated by many online sources. But after viewing youtube videos of this G900, its the other way round. Its smooth and speedy especially if you turn off transitions. The UI is very nice too!
teikwing
QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 16 2008, 11:28 AM)
I already got my set last weekend. Got it at RM1480 (AP set) and the sales package is quite comprehensive. It includes a original SE bluetooth handsfree receiver. Be cautious that some traders remove this item from the sales package in order to give you a more competitive price. Manage to get screen protector and carrying case (3rd party) also. Although this is my first UIQ symbian phone, it is a joy to use. The D-pad makes it more intuitive than previous UIQ phones relying main only touch and jog dial. 

It only supports WIFI B (as indicated at the box) and it does not have HSPDA/3.5G. Only the regular 3G speeds. But that is not important because I rely much on the WIFI capability. Get this G900 (be it AP or original) because it is really different. My first impression was that UIQ phones are laggy as indicated by many online sources. But after viewing youtube videos of this G900, its the other way round. Its smooth and speedy especially if you turn off transitions. The UI is very nice too!
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hmm..RM1480 with SE Bluetooth Hnadsfree sounds really worth it. mind to share with us where u got it? smile.gif
seaotter
hmm... the G700 ( i dont really need Wifi) sounds tempting to own, but the p1i is about the same price right?

any suggestion?
davidmak
QUOTE(teikwing @ Jun 16 2008, 03:43 PM)
hmm..RM1480 with SE Bluetooth Hnadsfree sounds really worth it. mind to share with us where u got it?  smile.gif
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Lowyat 1st Floor "Gadget something" tongue.gif

QUOTE(seaotter @ Jun 16 2008, 03:47 PM)
hmm... the G700 ( i dont really need Wifi) sounds tempting to own, but the p1i is about the same price right?

any suggestion?
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Well, P1i is a good phone. But I heard a lot of about the lagging UI. But I guess its a good trade-off when compared with G700. I'll pick P1i in this situation.
seaotter
QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 16 2008, 05:24 PM)
Lowyat 1st Floor "Gadget something" tongue.gif
Well, P1i is a good phone. But I heard a lot of about the lagging UI. But I guess its a good trade-off when compared with G700. I'll pick P1i in this situation.
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hows the camera between the G700 and the p1?
the pricing?
how's the keypads between them?
i did say wifi is not important for me - featurewise is important.
G-Izzat
Wow, I thought the G900 has wifi b/g. It says so on the whitepaper before.
amdx
seaotter,
P1i perform snappier than G900 IHMO. i used p1i before i switched to e51... P1i is little snappy device.
P1i with qwerty bi-directional keypad.. which i like it very much. G700.. just normal keypad... with much shorter stylus.
accessories bundled, p1i beats G700 and G900. the cradle stand itself already worth the price you paid.


G-Izzat,
G900 and P1i... same WLAN card... just B.. no G.
squall_kay
QUOTE(G-Izzat @ Jun 16 2008, 05:54 PM)
Wow, I thought the G900 has wifi b/g. It says so on the whitepaper before.
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ya..i oso noticed b4 in white paper include wifi g...emm, perhaps last call they remove it in order to reduce cost sweat.gif
cyew86
QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 16 2008, 06:19 PM)
seaotter,
P1i perform snappier than G900 IHMO. i used p1i before i switched to e51... P1i is little snappy device.
P1i with qwerty bi-directional keypad.. which i like it very much. G700.. just normal keypad... with much shorter stylus.
accessories bundled, p1i beats G700 and G900. the cradle stand itself already worth the price you paid.
G-Izzat,
G900 and P1i... same WLAN card... just B.. no G.
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what's the difference between B and G? unsure.gif
we can still use this G900 to online in hotspots areas rite?
teikwing
QUOTE(cyew86 @ Jun 16 2008, 06:50 PM)
what's the difference between B and G? unsure.gif
we can still use this G900 to online in hotspots areas rite?
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i think B is for WiFi with slower speeds. G is faster. most hotspots operates on both B & G but some operates on G only. so P1i & G900 can't connect to those.
edtan5
what....
only support wifi b? doh.gif
y many info is saying b/g
iRonTech
probably for power consume saving purpose smile.gif
davidmak
QUOTE(seaotter @ Jun 16 2008, 05:39 PM)
hows the camera between the G700 and the p1?
the pricing?
how's the keypads between them?
i did say wifi is not important for me - featurewise is important.
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Well, I don't own both the G700 and P1i so I am not in a position to tell. But I did demoed the P1i before at one of Sony Ericsson's stores. Initially the P1i is sluggish but once all the applications have been loaded in the memory (they don't really close the application when you exit, just minimized), its pretty smooth and snappy.

The same applies for G900 but I am quite sure that the applications and the OS has been optimized for G900 for faster operation. If you would read around Esato, many indicated the following possibility:

1. Slightly revamped application processor and OS optimization to use the 2D/3D hardware accelerator by PowerVM.

or/both

2. Heavily optimized UIQ3 Symbian 9.1.

I am inclined to support both because the OS has optimization for thumb/finger operation. You can use your finger throughout the whole UI. Also the transitions are smoother, etc.

QUOTE(cyew86 @ Jun 16 2008, 06:50 PM)
what's the difference between B and G? unsure.gif
we can still use this G900 to online in hotspots areas rite?
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B and G is the shortname from the WLAN/WIFI standards derived from 802.11b and 802.11g. In short, WiFi B allows speeds up to 11Mbps while WiFi G allows speed up to 54Mbps with better coverage due to better radio modulation. WiFi B usually supports 128bit WEP while WiFi G allows better security using WPA, etc.

In my opinion b or g, it is not important. The reason is because I don't see using security encryption sensible on a portable device with limited processing power and battery power. Also download speeds depends on the telco connection to the WiFi base station. If it is running on a 2Mbps ADSL/DSL/cable connection, do you think it'll flood your 11Mbps WiFi b? Do you honestly think with your UIQ 208MHz and its baseband processor able to sustain a continuous data streaming of 11/54Mbps up and down the link?

As long as there's WLAN capability that allow me to do some simple IM, browsing and downloading, I'm satisfied. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(iRonTech @ Jun 16 2008, 08:12 PM)
probably for power consume saving purpose smile.gif
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Its probably a hardware limitation because it reuses a lot of the P1i/W950 hardware platform. Or it could be not supported by the current firmware. A lot of sources in the internet support the fact that G900 is using a slightly different hardware platform. So... just take it as a pinch of salt. whistling.gif
amdx
okay, i'm letting go mine. my loss is your gain.
getting the nokia e71 smile.gif

visit here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/721819
JuNz-V
QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 18 2008, 01:08 AM)
okay, i'm letting go mine. my loss is your gain.
getting the nokia e71 smile.gif

visit here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/721819
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so fast want to sell? sweat.gif
any problem with it or any personal review on it, care to share? blush.gif
iRonTech
QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 18 2008, 01:08 AM)
okay, i'm letting go mine. my loss is your gain.
getting the nokia e71 smile.gif

visit here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/721819
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sweat.gif so rich ya bro.. QWERTY phone better for your usage?
amdx
JuNz-V & iRonTech,

yep.. i switch over from e61i to E51.. and now G900.. still prefer QWERTY in s60. smile.gif

i will do a review tonight for this G900.. if time permits.
uhlaw
QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 18 2008, 09:08 AM)
JuNz-V & iRonTech,

yep.. i switch over from e61i to E51.. and now G900.. still prefer QWERTY in s60. smile.gif

i will do a review tonight for this G900.. if time permits.
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Wow..so sayang to let it go so fast... sad.gif
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