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clngu
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XCM came out a new converter for First Person Shooter supporting Keyboard and Mouse

Product Feature:
- Compatible with all PS3 games
- Compatible with all versions of PS 3 (NTSC/US , PAL, NTSC/JAP)
- Can map the controller button keys to any key of the Keyboard
- Compatible with 95% of different kinds of mouse and Keyboard.
- High sensitivity, precision and smoothness.
- Can adjust the mouse sensitivity from 2 extra wheels with 16 levels of adjustment for X and Y sensitivity to adapt perfectly to every mice.
- Built in Turbo (Auto Fire) functionality. Independent Auto fire buttons: Eight customizable auto-fire buttons (no soldering required)
- Plug & Play - Just connect the XFPS RATEUP to PS3. (no PC required)
- Ease of use: Just use the original PS3 controller to re-map itself to the keyboard
- Both controller analog stick keys can also be mapped to the keyboard

XCM Website. Click here.


Play-Asia has stock selling for US89.90.

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For those who do not get FragFX Controller, now you have new choice.

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gr8fr8
sounds interesting...where did u get it? hmm.gif

ralat - how much? overall price including shipping?<-----tak nak mengaku salah rolleyes.gif sleepy mah...
edvpc
QUOTE(gr8fr8 @ Jan 31 2008, 10:12 PM)
sounds interesting...where did u get it? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(clngu @ Jan 31 2008, 10:06 PM)
Play-Asia has stock selling for US89.90. I immediate ordered one and received it today.
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Play-Asia... tongue.gif
aaron5829
wow.... 89.90 ... knn... who wants to be the guinea pig and give it a try ?
SimonsayZ
Damn costly. But with this kinda makes it feel like cheating coz got better aiming already. tongue.gif
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 1 2008, 11:16 AM)
Damn costly. But with this kinda makes it feel like cheating coz got better aiming already.  tongue.gif
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yaloh ... but this is marketing strategy ... before that was FragFX Controller in the market ... highly demanded ... now XFPS RATEUP came out ... they know more and more gamers playing FPS games

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SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 1 2008, 11:48 AM)
yaloh ... but this is marketing strategy ... before that was FragFX Controller in the market ... highly demanded ... now XFPS RATEUP came out ... they know more and more gamers playing FPS games

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I think I might order one after CNY. Gotta see how's the review 1st. Cannot lose RG face so play cheat lor, hehehe... brows.gif
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 1 2008, 12:17 PM)
I think I might order one after CNY. Gotta see how's the review 1st. Cannot lose RG face so play cheat lor, hehehe...  brows.gif
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haha ... go get it lah ... using SG dollar to buy so cheap ... smile.gif
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 1 2008, 12:31 PM)
haha ... go get it lah ... using SG dollar to buy so cheap ...  smile.gif
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LoL, Im in KL mah, so use ringgit. But after CNY lah. Coz CNY coming might have lots of delay so I better hold on 1st. You think this one will have tax if buy from playasia?
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 1 2008, 12:40 PM)
LoL, Im in KL mah, so use ringgit. But after CNY lah. Coz CNY coming might have lots of delay so I better hold on 1st. You think this one will have tax if buy from playasia?
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bro ... no tax ... cause I already bought it laugh.gif

so you local ... CNY go to visit you and get ang paw tongue.gif
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 1 2008, 12:48 PM)
bro ... no tax ... cause I already bought it  laugh.gif

so you local ... CNY go to visit you and get ang paw  tongue.gif
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Haha im not local. Just working in KL. You bought already? When is your arriving? Give me some feedback when you tried it out ok? biggrin.gif
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 1 2008, 12:51 PM)
Haha im not local. Just working in KL. You bought already? When is your arriving? Give me some feedback when you tried it out ok?  biggrin.gif
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I got it last night (refer to picture above) ... now I go out to buy USB keyboard and mouse smile.gif
aaron5829
Ohhh yeh... fast fast test it out !!
clngu
I am back from crazy shopping ...

Let me get started the review ... I know you can't wait any longer

1. I used Logitech Classic Keyboard Plus (PS/2 version) and A4 Tech Mouse (PS/2 version) connected to the device ... plug and play ... but the Keyboard could not working properly (signal unstable) and the Mouse totally useless

so my answer is don't use PS/2 version ... throw my Keyboard and Mouse to rubbish bin mad.gif


2. I used Logitech NewTouch Keyboard 200 (USB version) and Logitech Optical Mouse (USB version) connected to the device ... plug and play ... the Keyboard 100% working and the Mouse 100% working

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so my answer is use USB version


tomorrow I am going to buy Laser Mouse to try it out tongue.gif


Now I need to figure out how to re-map PS3 controller buttons to Keyboard and Mouse ... because default configuration not all the buttons assigned and suitable for every gamer ...

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slickz
how good is the sensitivity and response? I heard that it isnt so good.
clngu
QUOTE(slickz @ Feb 1 2008, 09:37 PM)
how good is the sensitivity and response? I heard that it isnt so good.
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1. I tried it with default settings (Level 1 of X and Y sensitivity) ... mouse movement is slow ... when increase to Level 16 ... mouse movement is fast ... so you can adjust it to your comfort level

2. You need to adjust game sensitivity (low, medium, high, custom) as well to get best result

3. Response from Keyboard is fast when you press the key

4. Response from Mouse is fast when you click the button

you can set Turbo mode for all 8 controller buttons ... yet to test out

I am not a pro gamer, so my review might not be 100% correct ...

overall I would say this product is definitely good for gamers who get used to Keyboard and Mouse

myself I still think Sixaxis controller easy to use
aaron5829
Thanks Ngu !!

It will be awesome for FPS or any real time strategy games in the future.

Ka3tr0
Waaaaa...wonder if its work with wireless K&M...
clngu
QUOTE(aaron5829 @ Feb 4 2008, 02:41 PM)
Thanks Ngu !!

It will be awesome for FPS or any real time strategy games in the future.
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yeah ... if play FPS games using Razer Tarantula and Razer Lachesis on Razer eXactMat ... best thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Ka3tr0 @ Feb 4 2008, 03:48 PM)
Waaaaa...wonder if its work with wireless K&M...
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not sure ... cause I don't have any to test it
SimonsayZ
LoL, thanks for the review bro. Firgured how to map the keys yet? Looks abit confusing to me... How do you map or reset the custom mapped keys?
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 4 2008, 04:09 PM)
LoL, thanks for the review bro. Firgured how to map the keys yet? Looks abit confusing to me... How do you map or reset the custom mapped keys?
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Reset is simple ... press "P" button for 5 seconds ... all 4 indicators flashing ... done

Map keys ... you can refer to their website ... they have 2 videos ... one is to teach you how to connect Keyboard and Mouse to the device ... the other one is to teach you how to map controller buttons to Keyboard and Mouse ... damn simple

The device tested on Resistance: Fall of Man and Call of Duty 4 ... plug and play
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 4 2008, 04:22 PM)
Reset is simple ... press "P" button for 5 seconds ... all 4 indicators flashing ... done

Map keys ... you can refer to their website ... they have 2 videos ... one is to teach you how to connect Keyboard and Mouse to the device ... the other one is to teach you how to map controller buttons to Keyboard and Mouse ... damn simple

The device tested on Resistance: Fall of Man and Call of Duty 4 ... plug and play
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I see. Actually Im still considering this or FragFx. But I see play asia no stock aleady. sweat.gif

Btw, you know where local shop got sell FragFx? I can't seem to find it.
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 4 2008, 04:38 PM)
I see. Actually Im still considering this or FragFx. But I see play asia no stock aleady.  sweat.gif

Btw, you know where local shop got sell FragFx? I can't seem to find it.
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You no need to get XFPS or FragFx ... you damn good in FPS already smile.gif

Which one no stock in Play-Asia???
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 4 2008, 05:03 PM)
You no need to get XFPS or FragFx ... you damn good in FPS already  smile.gif

Which one no stock in Play-Asia???
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FragFx no stock. One of our RG guys complain that the fragfx left analog stick not very good already due to sprinting in COD4. I know I damaged 2 sixaxis already, now using DS3. That's why i still wondering lor.

Btw bro, are you in KL? If I pass you money you can help me order from play asia if I buy XFPS? blush.gif
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 4 2008, 05:06 PM)
FragFx no stock. One of our RG guys complain that the fragfx left analog stick not very good already due to sprinting in COD4. I know I damaged 2 sixaxis already, now using DS3. That's why i still wondering lor.

Btw bro, are you in KL? If I pass you money you can help me order from play asia if I buy XFPS?  blush.gif
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Walauee ... RG guys cheating ... no wonder cannot beat them tongue.gif

I also ordered FragFX from Play-Asia last month ... still in waiting list ... they informed me stock available in end February ... so I should be getting it this month end

sure I will be in KL .. when you want to order XFPS or you want mine
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 4 2008, 05:13 PM)
Walauee ... RG guys cheating ... no wonder cannot beat them  tongue.gif

I also ordered FragFX from Play-Asia last month ... still in waiting list ... they informed me stock available in end February  ... so I should be getting it this month end

sure I will be in KL .. when you want to order XFPS or you want mine
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LoL, only ONE RG guys using frag fx. The rest is on DS3, haha. You willing to sell your XFPS to me?? If yes I immediately COD with you bro. Tonight also no problem, lol.

Got msn? I PM you. tongue.gif
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 4 2008, 05:16 PM)
LoL, only ONE RG guys using frag fx. The rest is on DS3, haha. You willing to sell your XFPS to me?? If yes I immediately COD with you bro. Tonight also no problem, lol.

Got msn? I PM you.  tongue.gif
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ok ... no problem
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 4 2008, 05:18 PM)
ok ... no problem
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I PM you already with my number. Im really interested if you wana sell me yours. tongue.gif
zio
If this is the same XFPS that Lik-Sang had a few years ago, then I hope they have improved by leaps and bounds.

Problem with the one I had for the PS2 was that it converted the signal from the keyboard and mouse into the analog control signal for the PS2, which therefore means there is a slight lag in reaction.

Does that still happen here?
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(zio @ Feb 4 2008, 05:23 PM)
If this is the same XFPS that Lik-Sang had a few years ago, then I hope they have improved by leaps and bounds.

Problem with the one I had for the PS2 was that it converted the signal from the keyboard and mouse into the analog control signal for the PS2, which therefore means there is a slight lag in reaction.

Does that still happen here?
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Aye, I didnt know PS2 had a XFPS. I read somewhere that this one has no lag. Only clngu knows though. tongue.gif
zio
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 4 2008, 05:25 PM)
Aye, I didnt know PS2 had a XFPS. I read somewhere that this one has no lag. Only clngu knows though.  tongue.gif
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Lol oops might not be the PS2. Could have been the XBOX. smile.gif But I certainly bought some keyboard/mouse converter thingy from Lik-Sang before they went down.

I think I am used to the controller now that using mouse will feel awkward instead tongue.gif
clngu
QUOTE(zio @ Feb 4 2008, 05:31 PM)
Lol oops might not be the PS2. Could have been the XBOX. smile.gif But I certainly bought some keyboard/mouse converter thingy from Lik-Sang before they went down.

I think I am used to the controller now that using mouse will feel awkward instead tongue.gif
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There was a third party FPS for PS2 years ago and it called SmartJoy Frag PS2. It only support PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse. When PS3 Resistant: Fall of Man came out, a third party converter called Logic3 PS2 to PS3 controller converter launched in the market.

You can use PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse to play PS3 FPS games ie. Resistant: Fall of Man and The Darkness.

However PS/2 has limitations, so a third party has created USB version called XFPS. They first developed on Xbox 360 FPS game ie. Halo 3, and successful. After received many feedbacks from Xbox gamers, they enhanced it to 3rd generation.

Now they came out XFPS for PS3 using 3rd generation features from Xbox 360.


How to connect to keyboard and Mouse (PS3 Resistance: Fall of Man game)


How to map the key to keyboard (PS3 Call of Duty 4 game)


IMO, this device has no lag ... instant response ... with Turbo Mode ON ... superb

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Raiko
What's the diff if i just connect my mouse and kb to the PS3's USB slot with using the XFPS ?
Can modify the buttons ? That's all ?
clngu
QUOTE(Raiko @ Feb 5 2008, 02:15 AM)
What's the diff if i just connect my mouse and kb to the PS3's USB slot with using the XFPS ?
Can modify the buttons ? That's all ?
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mine sold out ... sorry can't test it ... please go get one and test it yourself ...
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 5 2008, 08:50 AM)
mine sold out ... sorry can't test it ... please go get one and test it yourself ...
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clngu, thanks for the time to explain and also thanks for posting up the video. notworthy.gif

Btw, I notice my mouse felt abit jerky when I turn. The jerk is obvious when I slowly aim or slowly move the mouse. Do you get that effect? I using some cap ayam optical mouse with 1000 dpi.

Took me ages to adjust but just can't seem to get it right. maybe its the mouse. Probably I will try some other mouse and see.
kuya
walauee... already terrer using DS2/sixaxis still want to use XFPS..... lagi teruk kena ess kicking by RG laa ini mcm...
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 5 2008, 09:34 AM)
clngu, thanks for the time to explain and also thanks for posting up the video.  notworthy.gif

Btw, I notice my mouse felt abit jerky when I turn. The jerk is obvious when I slowly aim or slowly move the mouse. Do you get that effect? I using some cap ayam optical mouse with 1000 dpi.

Took me ages to adjust but just can't seem to get it right. maybe its the mouse. Probably I will try some other mouse and see.
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when I tested using PS/2 wheel mouse on mouse pad ... the jerk is bad

when I tested using USB optical mouse on mouse pad ... the jerk is little

when I tested using USB laser mouse on mouse pad ... the jerk barely notice

IMO, mouse type and mouse pad is a factor

QUOTE(kuya @ Feb 5 2008, 09:45 AM)
walauee... already terrer using DS2/sixaxis still want to use XFPS..... lagi teruk kena ess kicking by RG laa ini mcm...
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They using Dual Shock 3, FragFx controller ... now XFPS ... they just want you to have nightmare cry.gif

$RG$ motto is EVERY CLAN DIE DIE! MUST DIE! DIE AGAIN!!! laugh.gif
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 5 2008, 10:07 AM)
when I tested using PS/2 wheel mouse on mouse pad ... the jerk is bad

when I tested using USB optical mouse on mouse pad ... the jerk is little

when I tested using USB laser mouse on mouse pad ... the jerk barely notice

IMO, mouse type and mouse pad is a factor
They using Dual Shock 3, FragFx controller ... now XFPS ... they just want you to have nightmare  cry.gif

$RG$ motto is EVERY CLAN DIE DIE! MUST DIE! DIE AGAIN!!!  laugh.gif
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LoL, laser mouse. Maybe I need to check and see. If the jerk is bad I guess its back to DS3 then. tongue.gif

The jerk only appears when you slowly move the mouse. If move fast still ok. But when aiming sure move slowly, that's when the problem appears. LoL laugh.gif
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 5 2008, 04:27 PM)
LoL, laser mouse. Maybe I need to check and see. If the jerk is bad I guess its back to DS3 then.  tongue.gif

The jerk only appears when you slowly move the mouse. If move fast still ok. But when aiming sure move slowly, that's when the problem appears. LoL  laugh.gif
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I tested on Logitech brand ... quite smooth when aiming slowly ... dunno about other brands ... may be can check with XCM for advise

I will send an email to them tonight about the matters
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 5 2008, 05:13 PM)
I tested on Logitech brand ... quite smooth when aiming slowly ... dunno about other brands ... may be can check with XCM for advise

I will send an email to them tonight about the matters
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I just tested a mouse with 1600dpi. Ok and smooth but can't get use to it yet. Something seems weird when I use mouse. Will try to play around with the settings again. tongue.gif I feel I pwnz more using DS3, than using the KB/Mouse. LOL

Thanks for sending the email. Maybe they can provide a few list of mouse that is compatible.
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 6 2008, 01:04 AM)
I just tested a mouse with 1600dpi. Ok and smooth but can't get use to it yet. Something seems weird when I use mouse. Will try to play around with the settings again.  tongue.gif I feel I pwnz more using DS3, than using the KB/Mouse. LOL

Thanks for sending the email. Maybe they can provide a few list of mouse that is compatible.
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user posted image
Actually I wanted to try Razer Lachesis - a true 4000dpi 3G Laser(tm) sensor, which enables movement speeds of 5 times that of a standard 800dpi optical sensor. And a response time of 1ms, as compared to that of 8ms found in conventional gaming mice.


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Use it on Razer eXactMat(tm) Precision Mouse Mat - provides two distinct performance surfaces - SPEED for action/adventure and FPS games and high-sensitivity gamers; and CONTROL for RPG and RTS games and low-sensitivity gamers - on a non-slip, anti-reflective and abrasion-resistant anodized aluminum hard coat.

The result should be maddness drool.gif


You used DS3 for so long ... already used to it ... suddenly change to Keyboard and Mouse ... sure uncomfortable smile.gif
Krovaxq
ooo..soon starcraft 2 will be on ps3... n many2 mmorpgs jajajaja...
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 6 2008, 08:29 AM)
user posted image
Actually I wanted to try Razer Lachesis - a true 4000dpi 3G Laser(tm) sensor, which enables movement speeds of 5 times that of a standard 800dpi optical sensor. And a response time of 1ms, as compared to that of 8ms found in conventional gaming mice.
user posted image
Use it on Razer eXactMat(tm) Precision Mouse Mat - provides two distinct performance surfaces - SPEED for action/adventure and FPS games and high-sensitivity gamers; and CONTROL for RPG and RTS games and low-sensitivity gamers - on a non-slip, anti-reflective and abrasion-resistant anodized aluminum hard coat.

The result should be maddness  drool.gif
You used DS3 for so long ... already used to it ... suddenly change to Keyboard and Mouse ... sure uncomfortable  smile.gif
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LoL, I just ordered fragfx on play asia with my bro's help. Sigh~ end of month then only can get. I hope it will be sooner. sad.gif
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 7 2008, 02:51 PM)
LoL, I just ordered fragfx on play asia with my bro's help. Sigh~ end of month then only can get. I hope it will be sooner.  sad.gif
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Walueee ... you really crazy like me ohmy.gif

So you not going to use XFPS anymore??? tongue.gif
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 8 2008, 07:01 PM)
Walueee ... you really crazy like me  ohmy.gif

So you not going to use XFPS anymore???  tongue.gif
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Will be using but see how the fragfx goes. smile.gif
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 9 2008, 10:35 AM)
Will be using but see how the fragfx goes.  smile.gif
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You crazy die-hard FPS fan laugh.gif

going to get Rainbow Six Vegas 2 ???
SimonsayZ
QUOTE(clngu @ Feb 9 2008, 11:06 AM)
You crazy die-hard FPS fan  laugh.gif

going to get Rainbow Six Vegas 2 ???
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Haha duno leh, don't really like Rainbow six gameplay. biggrin.gif
clngu
QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Feb 9 2008, 07:42 PM)
Haha duno leh, don't really like Rainbow six gameplay.  biggrin.gif
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then stick to COD4 loh ... since $RG$ people don't play other games leh hmm.gif

we are going to get our FragFX end February ... so mean time using DS3 ... don't damage your controller again tongue.gif
ecyc1984
Where to get this XFPS besides Play-Asia do you know any shops that sells them?
clngu
I thought this thread sudah mati laugh.gif ... anyway any member using it ... I have no idea also ... so far I yet to see local shops selling it ... may be too expensive
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