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jchue73
QUOTE(Gahleon @ Apr 14 2008, 05:16 PM)
I heard W400 series 32" also is FullHD 1920 x 1080.
And its made in Malaysia?

http://www.av-forums.net/plus/redirect.php...goto=nextoldset
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Just realised this. I read somewhere that the 32" is only 8 bit panel unlike the other W models.
lapaq
QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 15 2008, 11:10 AM)
Just realised this. I read somewhere that the 32" is only 8 bit panel unlike the other W models.
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That's why you need to get the D series...it uses 10-bit panel...even for 32"
jchue73
QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 14 2008, 08:28 PM)
^ I tried connecting my notebook to it using HDMI and enable 1:1 pixel mapping on the W400. Here's what I noticed. If u sit about 6 feet away, its 'pretty' good BUT its not as good as LCD monitors (e.g the 24"  Dell that I use for my PC).
Having said that, I've not tried a "TEXT" mode and I did not try connecting using the D-SUB (VGA) connector. Sometimes I wonder if its practical to use a 40" as a PC monitor.  smile.gif

I forgot to add : Don't pay anything more than RM7000 for the 40" W400.
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welwitchia, can you test to see if your 40" outputs 1080p using component? biggrin.gif Just curious since I plan to play HD content through my notebook which has VGA out but does not have HDMI or DVI. I understand with the proper cables, VGA can breakout to component. Thanks.


Added on April 15, 2008, 11:25 am
QUOTE(lapaq @ Apr 15 2008, 11:13 AM)
That's why you need to get the D series...it uses 10-bit panel...even for 32"
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Thanks for the info. I guess if you were going for 32", 1080p does not matter. D series is a better buy then.

I'm currently itching for the 46W400A (or the Sharp 46" A63). Kena racun because I saw it side by side against the 40". doh.gif
rx330
go go go biggrin.gif
lapaq
QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 15 2008, 11:42 AM)
go go go  biggrin.gif
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sweat.gif
welwitchia
I can try out the VGA connection.. as for component, I don't have any component devices.. used to have the Xbox 360 but it liked me so much that it decides to give me 3 red lights every time I turn it on (yea, even though all my games are 100% original) so I told MS to F off.

I was contemplating on the 46" Sharp too but i think what made me buy the Sony is the 10bit panel and 1080p/24.

LOL, i just added a picture i took with the crappy iPhone camera. Was watching The Kingdom DVD last night. Not a bad movie.

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 15 2008, 11:16 AM)
welwitchia, can you test to see if your 40" outputs 1080p using component?  biggrin.gif Just curious since I plan to play HD content through my notebook which has VGA out but does not have HDMI or DVI. I understand with the proper cables, VGA can breakout to component. Thanks.


Added on April 15, 2008, 11:25 am

Thanks for the info. I guess if you were going for 32", 1080p does not matter. D series is a better buy then.

I'm currently itching for the 46W400A (or the Sharp 46" A63). Kena racun because I saw it side by side against the 40".  doh.gif
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jchue73
QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 15 2008, 11:51 AM)
I can try out the VGA connection.. as for component, I don't have any component devices.. used to have the Xbox 360 but it liked me so much that it decides to give me 3 red lights every time I turn it on (yea, even though all my games are 100% original) so I told MS to F off.


biggrin.gif VGA would do fine. Thanks. Does the W series have direct VGA connection? If yes, better for me. I was under the impression it did not have and hence have to use VGA ---> component.

QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 15 2008, 11:51 AM)
I was contemplating on the 46" Sharp too but i think what made me buy the Sony is the 10bit panel and 1080p/24.


I'm also leaning towards the Sony. The Sharp was showing the same Bluray promo disc and somewhat briefly got to compare it against the Sony. The colours were not as vibrant (maybe a little setting here and there) and fast scenes were not as smooth as the Sony.

The A63 does not have 10bit panel? Also no 1024p/24? Price wise, both the A63 and W400A series seem to be about the same... hmm.gif
rx330
keyword, iphone
ELITE!!!!!
welwitchia
Elite u'r head. The iPhone is so cheap these days compared to Nokias and Sony Ericsson.
rx330
so cheap?????? algi elite.....
limpe use bodolora V3 without i one, rm 750, 2 year old liao
lapaq
QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 15 2008, 02:02 PM)
Elite u'r head.
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MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA laugh.gif laugh.gif

Rx kena one shot thru the head...

p/s: rx I think is like me...can sms and call is enuff already...no need all the mambo jumbo..
rx330
lapaq , me not like u blush.gif
me wan all the mambo jambo , but only know how to use call and sms, but no money to buy mambo jambo phone sad.gif
lapaq
QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 15 2008, 03:23 PM)
lapaq , me not like u blush.gif
me wan all the mambo jambo , but only know how to use call and sms, but no money to buy mambo jambo phone sad.gif
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Good laa....dun be like me...too old to learn about all the mambo jambo already...better use the time to play more games...
rx330
me also dunno how to use those mambo jambo....
i think keep the money buy HD display better biggrin.gif
welwitchia
No wonder u're always at the Blu-ray thread. I have to avoid that thread for the time being. All the talk about DTS-HD MA is bad for the mental health.
BTW, what receiver are u using RX? biggrin.gif
rx330
using al cheapo onky SR 605
oh ya, guys, my hd projector arrived yesterday, wish me luck biggrin.gif

dts hd ma, really not bad....
lapaq
QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 16 2008, 12:17 PM)
using al cheapo onky SR 605
oh ya, guys, my hd projector arrived yesterday, wish me luck biggrin.gif

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Optoma?
rx330
yeah, beggars cant be choosers biggrin.gif
lapaq
QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 16 2008, 12:40 PM)
yeah, beggars cant be choosers biggrin.gif
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Which one? 65?
Your Madam is okay with it?!...then how much are you spending for the screen and installation (ceiling?)
rx330
madam approve liao, she kenot tahan my nagging biggrin.gif

screen, most prollu im doing a fixed screen, ask frame ppl to do, shud be less than rm 500 including the projector screen
most prolly shelf mount rather than ceiling, my plaster ceiling blush.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/674345
u can see a follow up here, hopefully ready by a moon
runemastertan
To those owners of Sony W series 40W400A. Please I need to verify something. There is this hype about 100Hz Panel. I read up of the post in this thread about Philips not having 100Hz and it's jerking when there is a fast action scene. Does this happen to 40W400A? Has anyone tested it yet, especially with fast moving anime. Please tell me your opinion, as I'm leaning towards Sony as well.

I can see that Sony W series is better than Sharp A63M in PQ wise. I got quote of Rm7000, and they are giving me 1 HDMI cable and 1 BRAVIA bag.
welwitchia
I dunno about 100Hz panels but I thought what's important is the panel's ability to support 24p and the W400 does support it.

U might wanna read the review on a 100Hz display (a kick a$$ one too)
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40F86BD/

Here's a quote from the review
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I've droned on and on, so let's get the crux of the matter out of the way: there is probably no condition under which I would voluntarily engage [100Hz Motion Plus] on the LE40F86BD to enhance my viewing pleasure. For film material, I find that it wreaks havoc on the very fabric that gives 24p movies their surreal dreamlike temporal quality. Call me nostalgic, but I prefer my movies to look filmic/ cinematic, not as if they were shot using a cheap £150 handheld camcorder, which is what [100Hz Motion Plus] does as it mutates 24p to hyper-real 50/ 60 fps "news mode".
tot31
W series doesn't have 100Hz, the D and X series have and Sony 100Hz is not a hype...I own the D series and I can see the difference...D series also have 1080/24p true cinema...

Here's a review on Sony 32" D series http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL32D3000/
riph
Panasonic Viera TX-37LX75MK for RM3350.(display set for 2 month) normal price RM 3649 (ewarehouse) .Got offer from a friend who works in electronic store.dont know is a old model or new.Is it a good price/buy guys?
ronaldjoe
QUOTE(riph @ Apr 18 2008, 11:14 AM)
Panasonic Viera TX-37LX75MK for RM3350.(display set for 2 month) normal price RM 3649 (ewarehouse) .Got offer from a friend who works in electronic store.dont know is a old model or new.Is it a good price/buy guys?
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Hi bro,
I believe this gonna be an old model.
I saw TX-37LZ800MK in pc fair which gonna be lauched in M'sia soon.
It's full HD and with 24p. I couldnt' find the info of it on the web.
Do you have 'jalan' to get to this 'baby'?
riph
How much expected to this TX-37LZ800MK model?. now im unsure to buy..
got this offer from my friend..he just offer for me only..sorry

BTW didnt find this model on web? typo error? blink.gif
runemastertan
QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 17 2008, 11:10 PM)
I dunno about 100Hz panels but I thought what's important is the panel's ability to support 24p and the W400 does support it.

U might wanna read the review on a 100Hz display (a kick a$$ one too)
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40F86BD/

Here's a quote from the review
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Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
tot31
QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 18 2008, 05:16 PM)
Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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nope for Sony 100Hz... thumbup.gif
squall_12
is Sony W series 40W400A availabe in penang????plan to get it soon to replace my Dell LCD 3007WFP....

thanks
ronaldjoe
QUOTE(riph @ Apr 18 2008, 12:00 PM)
How much expected to this TX-37LZ800MK model?. now im unsure to buy..
got this offer from my friend..he just offer for me only..sorry

BTW didnt find this model on web? typo error? blink.gif
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Bro,
It's not typo error. I couldn't find the info on web as well.
But it's in PC fair. It was stated as an upcoming model.
Specs wise, it's pretty decent.
welwitchia
I really don't know enough to answer that.. Sorry, u'll have to do a bit of googling for that. biggrin.gif
QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 18 2008, 05:16 PM)
Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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runemastertan
It;s there in Sony Malaysia's website. There aren;t any review for this model yet on the internet from CNET Asia or review sites, so that is why you got a hard time looking for it in the website.


Added on April 19, 2008, 3:05 am
QUOTE(tot31 @ Apr 18 2008, 06:30 PM)
nope for Sony 100Hz... thumbup.gif
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But your answer does not apply to Sony 40W400A, right? SInce the panel is not 100Hz....

And it seems that Sony is introducing new models for LCD TV, and for W series, the W4100, there is 4 HDMI and MotionPlus feature with 100Hz. I saw it in AVSForums.

If anyone wants the link I'll attach it
tot31
QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 19 2008, 03:02 AM)
It;s there in Sony Malaysia's website. There aren;t any review for this model yet on the internet from CNET Asia or review sites, so that is why you got a hard time looking for it in the website.


Added on April 19, 2008, 3:05 am
But your answer does not apply to Sony 40W400A, right? SInce the panel is not 100Hz....

And it seems that Sony is introducing new models for LCD TV, and for W series, the W4100, there is 4 HDMI and MotionPlus feature with 100Hz. I saw it in AVSForums.

If anyone wants the link I'll attach it
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W4100 is a US model and US models always have better features than Asia models. W400A for Asia W4000 for UK/Europe. W400A doesn't have 100Hz. I've gave you the link to Sony 32D3000 review which is the same with 32D300A where the D series has 100Hz feature. Sony has implemented very well the 100Hz technology compared to other manufacturers.
ronaldjoe
QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 17 2008, 10:13 PM)
To those owners of Sony W series 40W400A. Please I need to verify something. There is this hype about 100Hz Panel. I read up of the post in this thread about Philips not having 100Hz and it's jerking when there is a fast action scene. Does this happen to 40W400A? Has anyone tested it yet, especially with fast moving anime. Please tell me your opinion, as I'm leaning towards Sony as well.

I can see that Sony W series is better than Sharp A63M in PQ wise. I got quote of Rm7000, and they are giving me 1 HDMI cable and 1 BRAVIA bag.
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I would choose LC42A63M over 40W400A.
Spec wise LC42A63M is better and more value for $$$.
LC42A63M is RM6,499.

welwitchia
^ The contrast ratio (dynamic) is not as high as the Sony.. so saying it has better spec is not true.
runemastertan
QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Apr 19 2008, 11:57 AM)
I would choose LC42A63M over 40W400A.
Spec wise LC42A63M is better and more value for $$$.
LC42A63M is RM6,499.
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I would agree that sharp have "value for money" element than Sony. But then i think for most people, PQ are more important. And i do notice that Sharp 42A63M is rather hot, compare to 42W400A
welwitchia
^ Hot as in "heat" ? or hot as in more "popular" ?

Edit : oh wait, or do u mean hot as in "reddish" tongue.gif
rx330
sharp A 63 PQ sucks bigtime
runemastertan
QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 20 2008, 10:30 PM)
^ Hot as in "heat" ? or hot as in more "popular" ?

Edit : oh wait, or do u mean hot as in "reddish"  tongue.gif
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Hot as in heat. Actually I hoped that it would mean "hot chick" tongue.gif
lapaq
QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 18 2008, 05:16 PM)
Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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Here is my honest answer..I own a 32D series from sony.

Personall I liked the 100hz feature very much...

Movie wise...It makes the motions in the movie you play on the screen 'extra smooth.'....it basically doubles the frames per second...you will somehow look at it a bit smoother hence it'll look somewhat 'artificial'..Whether artificial is bad or not depends entirely on one's 'taste' or prefernce...I liked watching Pirates BD with Motion plus turned on (normal setting).

But there's certain movie I prefer watching it with the option off...

When it come to games....

Again Some games I prefer it to be switched on and some off. Example of a game that I liked it to be switched on is Motorstorm...The game is running at 30fps...add Motion Plus...it becomes 60fps...hence smoother...

Some games is not suited to be 'motion plus'ed...because motion plus will sometimes introduces 'noise' in the video...hence I'll switch it off...

Most of the time I'll leave it on at Normal setting.

Ypu have to see it your selves to decide....It's totally falls back to one's preference....
ronaldjoe
QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Apr 18 2008, 11:50 AM)
Hi bro,
I believe this gonna be an old model.
I saw TX-37LZ800MK in pc fair which gonna be lauched in M'sia soon.
It's full HD and with 24p. I couldnt' find the info of it on the web.
Do you have 'jalan' to get to this 'baby'?
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QUOTE(riph @ Apr 18 2008, 12:00 PM)
How much expected to this TX-37LZ800MK model?. now im unsure to buy..
got this offer from my friend..he just offer for me only..sorry

BTW didnt find this model on web? typo error? blink.gif
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Finally I manage to find info on TX-37LZ800MK biggrin.gif
It available @ http://www.panasonic.com.my/viera/
ronaldjoe
Attached the specs in pdf format:
runemastertan
QUOTE(lapaq @ Apr 21 2008, 02:23 PM)
Here is my honest answer..I own a 32D series from sony.

Personall I liked the 100hz feature very much...

Movie wise...It makes the motions in the movie you play on the screen 'extra smooth.'....it basically doubles the frames per second...you will somehow look at it a bit smoother hence it'll look somewhat 'artificial'..Whether artificial is bad or not depends entirely on one's 'taste' or prefernce...I liked watching Pirates BD with Motion plus turned on (normal setting).

But there's certain movie I prefer watching it with the option off...

When it come to games....

Again Some games I prefer it to be switched on and some off. Example of a game that I liked it to be switched on is Motorstorm...The game is running at 30fps...add Motion Plus...it becomes 60fps...hence smoother...

Some games is not suited to be 'motion plus'ed...because motion plus will sometimes introduces 'noise' in the video...hence I'll switch it off...

Most of the time I'll leave it on at Normal setting.

Ypu have to see it your selves to decide....It's totally falls back to one's preference....
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Hmm, if this is the case.....welwitchia, and all owners of 40W400A, do you feel that when you watched fast paced movies such like anime, fast action movie, the movie seems not smooth ar?
rx330
its all in ur mind......
lapaq
QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 23 2008, 08:18 PM)
Hmm, if this is the case.....welwitchia, and all owners of 40W400A, do you feel that when you watched fast paced movies such like anime, fast action movie, the movie seems not smooth ar?
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Hi,

Don't misunderstand me...I said the video is 'smoother'...not that if no motion plus it's not smooth at all.

If the original video is intended to be watch at 50/60 hz...the it is smooth enough...but imagine it is shown at 100/120 hz....

Somewhat the same like videogames, 30 fps is smooth enough but if it is shown at 60 fps..then that is smoother.

It really doesn't mean that LCD without moption plus is not smooth at all...

p/s: Oh and some video does benefit a lot from motion plus to reduce blurring that LCD tends to produce...refer to various Panasonic 700mk display set where they set half screen with 100hz and the other half without 100hz..the scrolling text is nit so blurred...and to think that game have a lot of text/pic running accross screen it would benefit a lot from it.

But bear in mind that game are built to be shown on HDTV screen so when they develope the game thsy will try to reduce the blurryness themselves so the improvement can be minimal...for games that is built that way at least
welwitchia
It looks fine to me. Then again, when I watch blu-rays on the 400A, I'm only looking at the colors. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 23 2008, 08:18 PM)
Hmm, if this is the case.....welwitchia, and all owners of 40W400A, do you feel that when you watched fast paced movies such like anime, fast action movie, the movie seems not smooth ar?
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toratora
Guys,

Some sharing of price and also your feedback on the below LCD. Heard that the Aquos PQ is not that good compare to Sony???

Price I got below is b4 negotiation/hagging

1. Sony 40W400A - RM6999

2. Sharp Aquos 42A63 - RM7499

3. Sharp Aquos 46A63 - RM 9499
rx330
get the sony btwn 1 & 2, 3 kenot compare cos out of size and price
runemastertan
toratora, go compare the LCD yourself. And I;m not sure you can get price lower than that for Sony. Sharp 42A63M is around 6499
lapaq
Yup...the sony is gud enough.....you won't miss the motion plus unless you watched a lot of TV rather than blu-ray and games.
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