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gundamalpha
QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Nov 16 2008, 11:19 PM)
IMO 32" is small for a TV...
40", 42", 46" is better for TV watching, especially bluray smile.gif
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32" is equivalent to watching a 25" on a 4:3, it isn't small, but you need to sit close enough
ronaldjoe
QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Nov 17 2008, 10:27 AM)
32" is equivalent to watching a 25" on a 4:3, it isn't small, but you need to sit close enough
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Using 32" to watch bluray is small, especially those wide screenies with upper and lower blank.
1080p crumbles in small space...
40" is good for that.
tanleeseng
One noob question guys. Does an animated film look better/smoother when you switch on the so called "Anti-Judder" effect (Mostly found in 40"+ high end LCD series like Sony X series, Samsung 6 series above, Philips PFL5403 above) ? I know it does affect cinematic live action movies but wonder how a 2D animated film will look like.

Thanks.
welwitchia
^ I watched "Norton Hears a Who" with "Intelligent Frame Creation" turned on with the Panny PY800 and was pleasantly surprised.

Having said that, I have it turned OFF all the time.
Beast-Slayer
i thinking of buying Panasonic 37LX800 (Full HD).. izzit good enuf to watch blue ray movies n ps3 games?
ronaldjoe
LZ800 or LZ80? which one r you referring to?
LZ800 thumbup.gif but price is rolleyes.gif like not worth.
LZ80 okie only but it's worth the price. There is a forumer selling this very cheap. laugh.gif
wildcandy
hmm.gif KLV-40S400A = Rm 2499 + PS3 = Rm 1099 = Rm 3598 .. issit a good deal.. ?
kamen rider #1
Hi there...

I just join this forum and still a noob...

want to know anybody discuss regarding plasma here ?...

panasonic viera plasma 800, seems good...

TQ
Beast-Slayer
well i dun recommend u to buy plasma tv if u are a hardcore gamer/hardcore movies watcher.. i believe the lifespan of plasma is way shorter than lcd.. i remember i read somewhere (u can google it later) saying that plasma lifespan is about 20k hours while lcd 50k hours


Added on November 19, 2008, 6:37 amfinally i bought this one philips 42PFL3403S/97.. hope it wont fail me!
ronaldjoe
QUOTE(Beast-Slayer @ Nov 19 2008, 06:32 AM)
well i dun recommend u to buy plasma tv if u are a hardcore gamer/hardcore movies watcher.. i believe the lifespan of plasma is way shorter than lcd.. i remember i read somewhere (u can google it later) saying that plasma lifespan is about 20k hours while lcd 50k hours


Added on November 19, 2008, 6:37 amfinally i bought this one philips 42PFL3403S/97.. hope it wont fail me!
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can ask welwitchia on plasma's performance.
Ur perception could be wrong tho icon_rolleyes.gif
welwitchia
Lets see. If I take your numbers for 20K hours and I watch about 3hrs a day

20000/3 = 6666 days = 18 years. (Pardon me if my calculations are wrong, I just woke up biggrin.gif )

18 years.. can I seriously expect my Plasma to last for 18 years? Heck, I doubt I'll be using the same TV in the next five years.
People choose plasma for a reason, Picture quality. (Please don't compare with LED LCDs..that's another range of TVs)
Before my current plasma, I've used 3 LCDs for the past year and all three are nothing but disappointment, even the Sony W400. So far, I'm perfectly happy with my Panny.

Here's what CNET Australia has to say and the article is pretty recent (April 2008)
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3. Lifespan
Lifespan, the number of viewing hours a television provides before dimming to half brightness, used to be one of the biggest advantages LCD has over plasma. Though the numbers vary among the different brands, they now generally last up to around 60,000 hours regardless of the technology.


http://www.cnet.com.au/tvs/0,239035250,339273215,00.htm

Have fun with your Phillips LCD smile.gif

Beast-Slayer
well i had to admit that plasma is better than lcd in terms of picture quality.. but about lifespan of plasma, there are still debates going on about it since plasma is using a combination of noble gases (i.e., argon, neon, xenon), which glow red, blue, and/or green. Many specialist believe that these gasses cannot be replace. So at half life the phosphors in a plasma screen will glow half as brightly as they did when the set was new. Anyway, as u said welwitchia.. even if plasma lifespan can hit only 30k hours (assuming avg watching time in MY is 5 hours = 30k/5/365 = 16 years ++). Well people will change their tv set within +- 5 years... even i change mine in one year ++ tongue.gif From my reading i found that one reviewer conclude this.. it quite old article tough.. im gonna find the latest one.. please share if u have any links.. thanks

source http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmat...sma-vs-lcd.html

Picture Quality = Plasma Win
Computer Use = LCD Win
Fast-Moving Video Playback = Plasma Win
Altitude Usage = LCD Win
Longevity = Depends on manufacturer
Screen Burn In = LCD Win, but plasma seem to have solve this prob
Production Size and Cost = Plasma Win, a bit only
Power Consumption = LCD Win, LCD consume half of Plasma did
Price and Resolution = it's a toss up


htkaki
QUOTE(Beast-Slayer @ Nov 19 2008, 06:32 AM)
well i dun recommend u to buy plasma tv if u are a hardcore gamer/hardcore movies watcher.. i believe the lifespan of plasma is way shorter than lcd.. i remember i read somewhere (u can google it later) saying that plasma lifespan is about 20k hours while lcd 50k hours


Added on November 19, 2008, 6:37 amfinally i bought this one philips 42PFL3403S/97.. hope it wont fail me!
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Absolutely outdated information, bro tongue.gif

Initially, plasma has very short half lifespan. It increases over the yr. Most of the plasma has 60k hrs, which is equivalent to LCD TV
ronaldjoe
I dun think I can stand that long too.
2 - 3 years. It's time to change TV again laugh.gif
Beast-Slayer
Yes.. it's seem that i've given outdated info.. but still these issues are still being debate. Well, obviously a lot of reviewer don't suggest gamers to use plasma coz u tend to pause(static image) a lot.. so i believe it's really depends on wut type of user u are.. in terms of power consumption i believe lcd is way better.


Added on November 19, 2008, 10:30 amyup ronaldjoe.. that's the point.. lifespan is actually not an issue if u always change ur tv.. just find a good manufacturer and tv's that fit with ur style
gundamalpha
I think the one major point to look at above anything else in terms of LCD vs Plasma is the lightnings condition in the display environment, only then followed by everything else.
welwitchia
^ Good point. I watch my movies exclusively at night (gotta work during the day) and I usually turn the lights off and add a backlight to the TV. That's why I chose a Plasma.

As for gaming issues, I thought Plasma's low refresh rates (or was it high??) makes it suitable as tend to ghost less?

Watched Heroes Ep 8 and 9 yesterday in 720p..ah, absolutely heaven.. :-)
kamen rider #1
Hi guys...

Thanks for the massive feedback...

For gundamalpha, its lighting not lightning... u scare me for a while...

As i read in panasonic plasma lcd comparison pamplet, it show different result...

and what we all talking its myth...

Thats why i bring this issue upfront...

Im gonna purchase my tv in few month,

thats why im joining this forum to do research...
Zaryl
Hi guys,

I'm planning to buy a 32" LCD TV. So far what I had in mind is:

Samsung L32A450 - RM1999 at SenQ Sunway Carnival, Penang
vs
Samsung L32A550 Full HD - RM2799

The SenQ guy said no difference if I buy the full HD 32" coz in order to see the Full HD, better to get 40" or bigger. Might as well get the HD-Ready only is enough for a 32 incher. Is he talking the truth here?

I plan to hookup a PS3 to the Samsung 32" L32A450 + some normal Astro viewing & DVD.
ronaldjoe
QUOTE(welwitchia @ Nov 19 2008, 11:02 AM)
^ Good point. I watch my movies exclusively at night (gotta work during the day) and I usually turn the lights off and add a backlight to the TV. That's why I chose a Plasma.

As for gaming issues, I thought Plasma's low refresh rates (or was it high??) makes it suitable as tend to ghost less?

Watched Heroes Ep 8 and 9 yesterday in 720p..ah, absolutely heaven.. :-)
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No ghosting from plasma 0.01ms response time. LCD cant match it.


Added on November 19, 2008, 10:04 pm
QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 19 2008, 10:01 PM)
Hi guys,

I'm planning to buy a 32" LCD TV. So far what I had in mind is:

Samsung L32A450 - RM1999 at SenQ Sunway Carnival, Penang
vs
Samsung L32A550 Full HD - RM2799

The SenQ guy said no difference if I buy the full HD 32" coz in order to see the Full HD, better to get 40" or bigger. Might as well get the HD-Ready only is enough for a 32 incher. Is he talking the truth here?

I plan to hookup a PS3 to the Samsung 32" L32A450 + some normal Astro viewing & DVD.
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LA32A550 is RM2.3k in Penang icon_idea.gif
Zaryl
ronaldjoe, mind telling me where can I find such shop in Penang? Is it at Queensbay? RM2.3k is quite cheap...
Beast-Slayer
i wanted to put my lcd on the wall.. do u guys have any contractors contact that can do so? If you have, how much normally they will charge u? I got space prob at my home.. huhu
ronaldjoe
Zaryl u got pm. thx
kamen rider #1
Anybody ?...

Everyone doesnt interest in Plasma ?...

Anybody using plasma ?...

TQ in advance
gundamalpha
What do you want to discuss actually?
htkaki
QUOTE(Beast-Slayer @ Nov 20 2008, 08:59 AM)
i wanted to put my lcd on the wall.. do u guys have any contractors contact that can do so? If you have, how much normally they will charge u? I got space prob at my home.. huhu
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Normally abt RM200+ inclusive of the bracket for a 32"
welwitchia
Lots of ppl here use plasmas but your last posts say we've been spouting myths. biggrin.gif

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As i read in panasonic plasma lcd comparison pamplet, it show different result...

and what we all talking its myth...


Go to this thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/782935 and u'll find lots of plasma lovers in there.

QUOTE(kamen rider #1 @ Nov 20 2008, 07:27 PM)
Anybody ?...

Everyone doesnt interest in Plasma ?...

Anybody using plasma ?...

TQ in advance
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kamen rider #1
Thank you team...

love you guys...
nickvanhakim
anybody using the cheap HDMI cable from Carrefour? want to know the quality..
kamen rider #1
hard to say regarding this HDMI cable...

anybody know any suitable thread to check ?...

TQ
zenquix
try this
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/446127
nickvanhakim
thnx for the HDMI link..want to do some research b4 buying the cable..
Beast-Slayer
haha finally i put the bracket myself.. will do a review in my blog later about my lcd

cost of bracket = Rm100
labour charge = FOC

i decided to DIY coz they quote me quite exp.. the cheapest i can get is 250... i save RM150 hoho
kamen rider #1
QUOTE(Beast-Slayer @ Nov 27 2008, 10:38 AM)
haha finally i put the bracket myself.. will do a review in my blog later about my lcd

cost of bracket = Rm100
labour charge = FOC

i decided to DIY coz they quote me quite exp.. the cheapest i can get is 250... i save RM150 hoho
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post it step by step ronald joe...

TQ
ronaldjoe
It's not me who did the bracket on DIY...
I subcon it to my contractor... sweat.gif
kamen rider #1
saw this lcd bracket at harvey norman today...

it can swivel left right up up down...

coolll...

but it cost 1600 Malaysia Ringgit...

hmmm... hmm.gif
ronaldjoe
There r many types of TV bracket.
Those with fixed one with only up and down adjustment is very much cheaper smile.gif
Beast-Slayer
QUOTE(kamen rider #1 @ Nov 30 2008, 02:47 AM)
saw this lcd bracket at harvey norman today...

it can swivel left right up up down...

coolll...

but it cost 1600 Malaysia Ringgit...

hmmm... hmm.gif
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wohh.. 1600??? add up a bit u can buy another 32" lcd/plasma
squall_12
guy for 40" fullhd LCD TV which brand is the best for used on PC and Console purposed as i planning to buy... and also pls. stated the est price for it..

thanks
ronaldjoe
samsung LA40A550 3.55k
saiga
QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Dec 5 2008, 10:45 PM)
samsung LA40A550 3.55k
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review not good la bro. sweat.gif
LawdRetep
Eh anyone knows when the Sony Bravia Z series will be released?
kamen rider #1
waaa...

u must be really rich gamer...

dare to ask the z series...

look for how much the x series cost u...

envy u laa... drool.gif
ronaldjoe
QUOTE(saiga @ Dec 6 2008, 08:49 PM)
review not good la bro.  sweat.gif
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Want nice lcd... go for A950 tongue.gif
mois
Guys, my parents want to buy sony bravia (which i could find sharp aquos but too bad i cant).

I saw KLV-46W400A(made from malaysia) today costs RM8999 retail. And KLV-46X400A costs Rm17999(made from japan). The 46W comes close to the X series. But at the same time 46V costs rm7499 also comes close to 46W. So which one is more worth? 46V or 46W? Do they have big difference in gaming? I use the lcd tv to play ps3 though. If not much different, ill go for 46V since its cheaper.

And how about the DAV-FXG99k speaker? Good?
LawdRetep
QUOTE(kamen rider #1 @ Dec 7 2008, 06:55 PM)
waaa...

u must be really rich gamer...

dare to ask the z series...

look for how much the x series cost u...

envy u laa...  drool.gif
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No lah my parents looking for a TV.

The Z series SHOULD be priced below the X series, I think.

Hopefully it'll be out by the end of this year lah, and it wouldn't be too pricey. laugh.gif
squall_12
QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Dec 7 2008, 07:58 PM)
Want nice lcd... go for A950  tongue.gif
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what price for A950 for 40".....also is this model available in malaysia....???


thanks
kamen rider #1
QUOTE(LawdRetep @ Dec 8 2008, 01:12 PM)
No lah my parents looking for a TV.

The Z series SHOULD be priced below the X series, I think.

Hopefully it'll be out by the end of this year lah, and it wouldn't be too pricey.  laugh.gif
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100hz with full HD for X series is more than 10k...

200hz with full HD gonna cost u a atomic bomb...

ha ha ha...

But for a 10 years investment should be ok i think...

or to play with PS'4'...
welwitchia
A950 tarak 40" la.. tongue.gif
Min 46"

QUOTE(squall_12 @ Dec 8 2008, 02:59 PM)
what price for A950 for 40".....also is this model available in malaysia....???
thanks
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ronaldjoe
QUOTE(squall_12 @ Dec 8 2008, 02:59 PM)
what price for A950 for 40".....also is this model available in malaysia....???
thanks
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Only got LA46A950 (7.8k) n LA52A950 (11.4k) drool.gif
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