Yeah, me notice that too. SP1 will recognize 4GB from now on but I guess that is the max and cant go anymore higher because of 32-bit engine.

3.5gb is the real 1.... 4gb is just to clear confusion of users....... if u install 4gb on ur 32bit windows OS... the actual utilize is not 4gb... instead only about 3gb+ is used.... 4gb minus out ur hardware memory such as 3dcard and souncard and etc.... for example let say ur 3dcard is 512mb... so it only use 3.5gb for ur system....

vista sp1 stated 4gb is to clear the user confusion and stop alot of user from asking "eh i instlal 4gb and i get only 3gb+ ram, WHY????"

memory remapping = using 4gb memory on 32bit OS method, is unable to use in windows if im not wrong.... therefore want to use 4gb or more memory? go 64bit OS

bro,how to pull off dat jumper..im using seagate

erh, if i'm using 2gb of rams now, with vista sp1, then upgrade to 4gb, will i need to reactivate my vista?
asked in the help desk, but some fag replied with unrelated stuffs

nope no need

Don't worry too much about the WEI as it isn't a true test of what your pc can do. Heck... i scored 4.3 for disk transfer but the rest of my scores are 4.8, 4.8, 5.6, 5.4.

But i don't have any problems playing games like CoD4 or DoW OR CoH.

Who told you only English version released? 5 languages the SP1 supported.


Yes. You're right. Actually the system just use up to 3.5GB. It show 4GB just to make things clearer to end users (especially dummy). Even without SP1, you can make it to show 4GB.
http://www.myitlab.net/index.php?showtopic=144


No need.

thanks mate, 4gb rams, here i come

I reinstalled and problem solved.


Hmm seems to be a one time problem for me, now its showing my OC speed again.

problem ofcoz not so obvious coz when u play games, most of the data will be transfered to ur memory... which wat memory for.. so u wont feel lack..

if u do compare data transfer, such as copy big files from one hdd to another hdd in a big sum of capacity, then u compare to better hdd, u will notice the difference

4+ index still perform well in vista since if im not wrong the min requirement is 3+ and recommended is 4+

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Added on March 24, 2008, 12:59 pm

remember that if u are using those high end card such as 3870x2 or 9800Gx2...... they have 1gb memory ... so if u want to use 32bit OS(which is commonly used), then dont bother to get 4gb... instead get 3gb ram coz the max u can go is 3gb for full utilize... it will show 4gb if u install it but only 3gb is used......

my boot time is faster around 1min+ compare to last and i did a clean install 1st. also changed a new hdd la. so far sp1 giving me no prob. and it faster alot when copying large files

ive updated mine to sp1 n seems like no changes at all,to me dat is...

I still cant get SP1 to be shown on my Windows Update.

Is there anyway to fix this?

press the "check for update" on the left side panel of windows Update? wait and make sure ur internet connection is smooth...

Yeah,i did press and my connection is ok.I have remove the problematic drivers in my system and it's still not offered.

Yes, you're right. This is the best way to find out the performance of SP1. Without format and reinstall Windows, you might have some driver or software that might cause problem. It proven to be faster on boot up time.

dun worry bout tat, i know pretty well bout tat as i myself has posted few post regarding it in hardware Q & A. using only 8800gts g80 312mb, so probably should see bout 3.5gb+

lol did i seems like worrying??? im explaning there... anbd ur 312mb.. LOL typo... but u shud get 3.7gb instead since 4,096mb - 320mb = 3,776mb..... is u have other hardware that utilises memory then will bcom lesser than 3.7gb...

regardless how many video memory u have, u will still get 3.25GB(3325MB) if u have 4Gb of physical memory installed on 32bit of vista.

and it will reduce further if u are using on-board VGA.

LOL really typo, cos i was tulan my car kena bang from behind today...
anyway, wat i mean bout worrying is just to tell ya u don't need to explain this to me, i know bout it pretty well

obsolutely totally 100% confirm wrong... totally disagree... it varies acording to ur system memory utilization... not fix..... i have 4gb memory and Asus 8800GT TOP edition 512mb graphic card.... i get only 3.5gb utilization from ram only....

post a screenshot of ur dxdiag then or task manager also can.
or may be u can explain to me, why im using 2600xt with 256mb of video memory, my total physical memory only left 3.25gb?

as u wish .... here is the screenshot ... sry for those who think too big.. purposely dont want to minimise so it is CLEAR enuf to see .... the everest ultimate is to double confirm it...

im not sure how can u get 3.25gb but im pretty sure it is cause by the rest of ur hardware..... or maybe settings.. anyway ur statement is a wrong statement...

as for mine... 4 x 1,024mb = 4,096mb...... 4,096mb - 512mb = 3,584mb........ but im still wondering why 2mb missing from dxdiag... the everest is the correct value.... maybe 2mb use for BIOS or sumthg like that

ur sata 2 is wat brand and model.. if seagate then u shud have a white jumper on ur seagate hdd and u shud plug that out to get sata2 performance... by default the white jumper is plugged into the harddisk for compatible sake, activating at sata1 only...



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bro...if i pull the jumpe at the hard disk..need to pull jumper at mobo oso???

i assume u are using biostar ta690g mobo acording to ur signature..... ur mobo support sata2 hdd... so ur u can take off ur seagate hdd jumper for sata2 mode... default plug in = sata1 compatibility mode..... about ur mobo.. there shudnt be anythg to configure for sata..... its automatic.... so just go ahead and take off the white small tiny jumper from ur seagate hdd to get into sata2 mode.. off ur computer only do it ah...... i will faint if u leave ur computer on and do that......

my seagate model???? see above quoted picture... ST3320620AS... u can see it in everest report or everest OSD or in my signature below...

before update service pack 1

after update ,my max clear theme become like tis

ur maxclear thggie is a customization of windows... so perhaps u need to reinstall it to get the compatibility coz in the process of upgrading sp1.. some of the system file code is change or wat... anyway just try to reinstall it

lazy to reinstall window,now only customize theme wont work,but the original aero still can run,so use back original looks lo

and i notice tat my pc become slow during start up,need to wait about 2 minutes before i can start click anythings,only the wireless connection become faster than b4

ok it seems only nvidia 8 series user can use up to 3.5gb on 32bit OS
while ati user only can see 3.2gb, again please prove im wrong lol

anybody facing the same theme problem same with me after update ?

u really want ah.... then i have to do it with my old x800GT... hahaha... u want me do it with X800GT? maybe later u "ohh maybe x800 range users only can get it, mine diff cause x2000 series"...

i did search on google before, as i cant find any ati card user have 3584mb of ram with 32bit of xp or vista, unless they are using x64 of xp or vista.
i will stop discuss it further as we are in off-topic already, post ur x800gt and the dxdiag+everest, and full stop lol

ooo hmmm will try later

sp1 thru windows update only available from mid april

no lo...
i can get 4 gb in my vista 32 bit witg geforce 8600m gt

2x2gb combination

hmm vista sp 1...
faster than rtm...
but now wan try server 08 as workstation

wrong.. pls read the 5pages before this... alot of use use WU to do it including me.

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Added on March 25, 2008, 1:38 am

dude this is wat u asking for again...... ATI x800GT 256mb.... everest + dxdiag....... and below that is a pic of my 8800GT + x800GT..

hmm but why still like that 3.5gb ah.... didnt refresh or wat??? here are some article which help to understand why 3.5gb and the max memory to utilize..... happy reading

http://www.vistaclues.com/reader-question-...-memory-limits/
http://blogs.msdn.com/dcook/archive/2007/0...-my-memory.aspx
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html
http://littleway.blogspot.com/2007/12/enab...to-support.html

Hellgate London on Vista SP1 using 2GB very smooth now hoho~~~

See? Vista works great not only on new hardware, but on old hardware too.

Arr matey!

Anyone using Optical sound output here ? Specifically X-Fi users. I'm having problem with Digital output since there's no sound coming from it. Analog is working fine.

Contact Creative for a solutions this is not a Vista problem. It's a driver Creative problems. Shoot Creative!

yes.. im still using althon 3500+ (single core) with asus A8N-E mobo

ah it working fine wif my pc a little bit faster....

anyone can list the full update of service pack one T_T i can't find out all myself ~~ plx ^^

Is the loading screen, when you boot your computer different with the SP 1 ?

haha...not as fast as transfers in xp. btw it's a good improvement on Vista, hope microsoft can bring better updates for it next.

i believe its a mmm.... nope.

btw it will be better if it only got 1 or 2 version.
from my point of view, Vista Basic is made just for the sake of the late "Designed For XP : Vista Capable" logo slapped onto the computers year before Vista was unveiled. and there are too much versions of Vista.

btw, better discuss more on SP1 features here.

hey after you install the SP1 do you guys type in this command in command prompt "vsp1cln.exe"

nope.. but i just tried after u mention... will complete it now... and will show some printscreen here before and after do this... this info is what i get from net
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Vsp1cln.exe - Vista SP1 File Removal Tool


I've been running Vista SP1 for the past few days, and the system is quite stable. It was time to make Vista SP1 permanent on this machine. I had 45.6 GB free before running the above tool. Vsp1cln.exe is described as:

Vsp1cln.exe is an optional tool that you can run after you install SP1. This tool removes older versions of components that have been updated in SP1, which are stored during the installation in case you need to uninstall SP1 later. Saving these older components increases the amount of disk space that is used. Typically, you should run Vsp1cln.exe if you want to reclaim this disk space after applying SP1 and if you will not need to uninstall SP1. Note, however, that you cannot uninstall SP1 after you run this tool.

UAC asks for permission when running the tool, and a command prompt pops up asking if you want to make SP1 permanent. After the tool had run on my machine, disk space went from 45.6 GB to 47.3 GB. If you're sure you are going to be keeping SP1 this might be a worth while tool to run.
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After installing Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1), you probably will notice that the free disk space of your system hard drive will reduce significantly. The additional space used and occupied by Vista SP1 is used to store Vista RTM files so that system can be reverted to old RTM version when users decide to uninstall the service pack. If you have installed SP1 and decided to keep it, Microsoft has packaged SP1 with Vsp1cln.exe File Removal Tool to reclaim disk space.

Windows Vista SP1 Deployment Guide describes that vsp1cln.exe File Removal Tool as following:

Windows Vista SP1 File Removal Tool Vsp1cln.exe is an optional tool that you can run after you install SP1. This tool removes older versions of components that have been updated in SP1, which are stored during the installation in case you need to uninstall SP1 later. Saving these older components increases the amount of disk space used.. Typically, you should run Vsp1cln.exe if you want to reclaim this disk space after applying SP1 and if you will not need to uninstall SP1. You can use this tool both online and offline, but you must have SP1 installed. You cannot uninstall SP1 after you run this tool on an image.

To run Windows Vista SP1 File Removal Tool, open a command prompt (Cmd) or simply press "Winkey + R" keyboard shortcut. Then enter the following command:

Vsp1cln.exe

Once cleaning process completed, several hundreds megabytes of disk space will be freed, with reports saying around 800 MB, depending on edition of Vista installed. For advanced users,there are plenty of switches and options available to Vsp1cln.exe:

VSP1CLN.exe [/h] | [/o: offline Windows files folder path] [/quiet]

/? or /h: display Vsp1cln commands list.
/o:[offline windows files folder path]: location of Windows Vista offline image that wants to remove RTM files
/quiet: silent execution, no display.
/verbose: display extra details.

There is no download needed, as Vsp1cln.exe comes included with SP1. Note that once ran, SP1 cannot be uninstalled. For those who really run out of disk space, Vista Junk Cleaner script can also be used to delete unwanted files and reclaim more space.


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i also dunno lo cos it say make this permanent.....btw after i install SP1 it seems my hard disk space increase by more than 10GB how come? you also like that?

Ok here is about the Vista Service Pack 1 File Remover Tool..... vsp1cln.exe
basically it delete ur backup for old vista(no sp1).... tats all.... gain back ur hdd space... below is what happen

BEFORE


PROCESS - only took me 10-15sec to finish it...


AFTER


conclusion... Gaining back ~800mb free space... might differ for other PC