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sniper69
QUOTE(StratOS @ May 5 2008, 10:00 AM)
ok.. will try it tonight.. coz i touch my NB heatsink really very hot now.. coz i got increase it voltage..

how high the voltage applied? unsure.gif
-pWs-
QUOTE(gsan @ May 5 2008, 10:51 AM)
bro, where is your oc result?  brows.gif
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3.3GHz only.
More than that need to add VTT and VMCH already. laugh.gif laugh.gif

-pWs-
StratOS
QUOTE(sniper69 @ May 5 2008, 10:57 AM)
how high the voltage applied? unsure.gif
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i think i put it at 1.37V now.. stock at 1.33V.. icon_rolleyes.gif
overclockalbert
QUOTE(StratOS @ May 5 2008, 01:19 PM)
i think i put it at 1.37V now.. stock at 1.33V..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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not that high mah.

1.37 NB core volt might yield much better mem result , prefer 1:1
with maybe 450Mhz, to get 900mhz dual channel.

lichyetan
QUOTE(sniper69 @ May 5 2008, 10:57 AM)
how high the voltage applied? unsure.gif
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i think NB chip nowadays just same as graphic card chip, can tahan quite high temp.... heard tht if below 60c is ok refering other forum cause max temp for nb is around 80c...
sub_noob
How bout for 24/7 setup..? no prob..? how high can it applied for 24/7 setup..?
StratOS
if i leave my air-con switched on(usually 20-23C) and side panel off.. should be performing ok.. room temp around 26C and side panel on.. will hang and auto restart..
tkh_1001
QUOTE(lichyetan @ May 6 2008, 11:52 PM)
i think NB chip nowadays just same as graphic card chip, can tahan quite high temp.... heard tht if below 60c is ok refering other forum cause max temp for nb is around 80c...
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i forgotten i read from where already saying that 45c above on NB will cause instability... is that true? notworthy.gif
StratOS
45c and above..? really..? mine slightly near i guess..
lichyetan
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ May 7 2008, 07:53 PM)
i forgotten i read from where already saying that 45c above on NB will cause instability... is that true?  notworthy.gif
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i dont think its true, i can pass memtest windows, prime95 wat ever test and others and so on with NB above 45c, around 49c - 50c like tht...
tkh_1001
hmm...me too...just that i sometimes worry that this is actually one of the factor that can lead to instability...seems like i got confirmation now... btw, UT punya NB still as hot as DK although have the "thermalright" cooler?
StratOS
i think will be unstable a bit gua.. coz i OC my proc ar 445X9 also not stable.. NB temp at 45/46C.. increase voltage still same.. hmm..

@tkh_1001.. u using wut FSB X Multiplier.. wuts ur vcore for proc..?
lichyetan
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ May 7 2008, 11:06 PM)
hmm...me too...just that i sometimes worry that this is actually one of the factor that can lead to instability...seems like i got confirmation now... btw, UT punya NB still as hot as DK although have the "thermalright" cooler?
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the thermalright heatpipe just same la, but i do increase my vNB to 1.37v... so mayb the temp rises... my place hot like hell in the noon, cyberjaya freaking hot tis few days... night time wil be cooler around 41-43c, day time 45-48c depends...

QUOTE(StratOS @ May 7 2008, 11:09 PM)
i think will be unstable a bit gua.. coz i OC my proc ar 445X9 also not stable.. NB temp at 45/46C.. increase voltage still same.. hmm..

@tkh_1001.. u using wut FSB X Multiplier.. wuts ur vcore for proc..?
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i can get mine stable, try adjust ur NB GTL, last time i also cant get my 445*9 stable no matter wat vcore, after slight adjusting my NB GTL, CPU GTL, i able to get 445*9 stable with 1.37vNB and 1.3375vcore...
mfcm
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ May 7 2008, 11:06 PM)
hmm...me too...just that i sometimes worry that this is actually one of the factor that can lead to instability...seems like i got confirmation now... btw, UT punya NB still as hot as DK although have the "thermalright" cooler?
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yaka..i think not really same..as the hsf can mount fan on it..so will cool down the NB oso.. hmm.gif
tkh_1001
QUOTE(StratOS @ May 7 2008, 11:09 PM)
i think will be unstable a bit gua.. coz i OC my proc ar 445X9 also not stable.. NB temp at 45/46C.. increase voltage still same.. hmm..

@tkh_1001.. u using wut FSB X Multiplier.. wuts ur vcore for proc..?
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sorry ya...i notyet find the real stable clock yet...cos been really bz after changed my mobo to DK recently tongue.gif cant tell u much now...haha


QUOTE(mfcm @ May 7 2008, 11:23 PM)
yaka..i think not really same..as the hsf can mount fan on it..so will cool down the NB oso.. hmm.gif
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u got a point there...btw, ur baby sudah jual ke?
sub_noob
Is there any link for the NB Gtl, Cpu Gtl..? or anyone can guide me..? i stuck at 363x8 for now..
mfcm
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ May 7 2008, 11:47 PM)
sorry ya...i notyet find the real stable clock yet...cos been really bz after changed my mobo to DK recently tongue.gif cant tell u much now...haha
u got a point there...btw, ur baby sudah jual ke?
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haha the dk been reserved..waiting got payment then ship to new owner smile.gif new baby didnt ripe out yet laugh.gif y selling ur xeon?got quad?
tkh_1001
QUOTE(mfcm @ May 7 2008, 11:53 PM)
haha the dk been reserved..waiting got payment then ship to new owner smile.gif new baby didnt ripe out yet laugh.gif y selling ur xeon?got quad?
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actually i meant ur e8400 drool.gif haha....my xeon sold to fund for something else lo tongue.gif

btw bro...do u ever tweaked the advanced ram settings to get better CL ? inside DK too many options rclxub.gif
StratOS
wuts a GTL..? haha.. im noob here..
mfcm
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ May 8 2008, 12:07 AM)
actually i meant ur e8400 drool.gif haha....my xeon sold to fund for something else lo  tongue.gif

btw bro...do u ever tweaked the advanced ram settings to get better CL ?  inside DK  too many options rclxub.gif
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owh..haha still stay calm coz didnt oc yet in new mobo..nope..as i tols stratos oso i dunno much bot ram setting n tweak doh.gif myb u can ask others bout it notworthy.gif
sub_noob
Haha.. same here.. i search but cant find related to this board.. so anyone..?
sniper69
QUOTE(sub_noob @ May 7 2008, 11:47 PM)
Is there any link for the NB Gtl, Cpu Gtl..? or anyone can guide me..? i stuck at 363x8 for now..

http://edgeofstability.com/articles/dfi_p35/default_gtl.html
tkh_1001
QUOTE(mfcm @ May 8 2008, 12:18 AM)
owh..haha still stay calm coz didnt oc yet in new mobo..nope..as i tols stratos oso i dunno much bot ram setting n tweak doh.gif myb u can ask others bout it notworthy.gif
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its ok man...i langsung dono how some of them can achieve CL 4 and running on 500fsb rclxub.gif

QUOTE(sub_noob @ May 8 2008, 12:18 AM)
Haha.. same here.. i search but cant find related to this board.. so anyone..?
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tried this? i guess maybe this link shud be pasted on the main page of the thread tongue.gif

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/hardware/32...therboards.html

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclockin...rs-dfi-add.html
-pWs-
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ May 8 2008, 12:29 AM)
its ok man...i langsung dono how some of them can achieve CL 4 and running on 500fsb rclxub.gif
tried this? i guess maybe this link shud be pasted on the main page of the thread  tongue.gif

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/hardware/32...therboards.html

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclockin...rs-dfi-add.html
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Nice links you have there. Thanks thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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jannatun
alooo guys....i wanna ask sumthing about my pc...why when i set core speed = 3000Mhz,then when i'm doing orthos it show 3300Mhz? why not 3000Mhz same as in cpuz...? i provide sum picture of it...

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sub_noob
What is ur highest multi..? 11 i think.. it will show the highest multi..
jannatun
so what should i do? just change the multiplier?
mfcm
yeah i think its also 11 multi..nonid change anythin coz the orthos willread ur clock with highest multi laugh.gif jus refer to ur cpuz
jannatun
owh...okČ..thanx
lichyetan
just get tis info from gsan and tried it, all UT user should disable the vdrop control option in bios, after i disabling it, my vcore reading seems more less ripple and i can run my proc with lower vcore settings in bios...
mfcm
QUOTE(lichyetan @ May 11 2008, 04:33 PM)
just get tis info from gsan and tried it, all UT user should disable the vdrop control option in bios, after i disabling it, my vcore reading seems more less ripple and i can run my proc with lower vcore settings in bios...
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owh..got how many differ bro?i gonna try out soon..thx for info
gsan
QUOTE(lichyetan @ May 11 2008, 04:33 PM)
just get tis info from gsan and tried it, all UT user should disable the vdrop control option in bios, after i disabling it, my vcore reading seems more less ripple and i can run my proc with lower vcore settings in bios...
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UT/LT P35/X38/X48/790FX & DK X38/X48/790FX got this function, but DK P35 dont have cry.gif cry.gif

btw, anyone DK P35 user running 500fsb with 1:1 (cpu/ram) ? did you experience double post? and how the double post look like?
tkh_1001
Guys...some info bout ram OCing n GTL tweaking i "curi"-ed from some forum and clunk forum tongue.gif

maybe u guys want to try it out?


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Additional Setting Ranges:

MCH ODT Latency: ODT (On Die Termination) is used to match the MCH output impedance to the termination resistance of the RAM. Use of 1-2 is fine in most cases. Even for 4GB overclocking we did not find that more than a setting of 1 was required.

Write to PRE Delay (tWR): Range is from 10-13. For high RAM speed, use 12 and above for stability; for benchmarking 10-12 will be faster. Lower is faster.

Rank Write to Read (tWTR): Range is 9-11. Use 11 for stability and 10 or 9 for benchmarking. Lower is faster.

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): Range is 2-5. 3 is a good setting that allows high enough FSBs for most users. Higher numbers result in less memory read performance.

Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): Range is 8-9. 8 is ideal for most users; higher values are slower.

Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO

The ranges for all these settings are quite well manipulated by SPD and BIOS. For those wishing to experiment, 4 is the lowest and most aggressive setting. 5-4-5 may work for SuperPi type benching. There is a slight write/copy speed increase with tighter settings, but this is only useful for the extracting the last ounce of performance. For stability these are best left on AUTO

Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 2-3 works well on this board for most users. 2 is used for benchmarking while 3 and upwards are best for stability.

ALL PRE to Refresh: Range is 4-5. 4 works fine with quad-core CPUs all the way to 475 FSB. A setting of 4 is fine for most benchmarking, unless shooting high over 500FSB.


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GTL REF Voltage control: Enable / Disabled

"CPU VTT reference voltage for determining host bus high / low level." - This setting can be useful or detrimental and is highly dependant on your individual CPU. You may find that you can acheive a higher and more stable overclock by tweaking these values. The values are strongly tied in with the CPU VTT voltage, so it can take a bit of experimenting to find the correct settings. See the VTT/GTL REF guide here.

Update: After further testing with another 45nm dual core cpu (E8400 & E8500), I have found that on my systems, there was absolutely no need to have the GTL REF Voltage Control set to Enabled. I was able to hit 500FSBx9.5 with relative ease, and 540FSBx9.5 later on - Of course, as VTT & GTL REF settings can be different for each setup, you may find that a small amount of tweaking will work for you. The trick is, for 24/7 overclocks of relatively sane proportions, less is more for the VTT (i.e. Leave it alone unless you are unstable), and the same goes for GTL REF.

One of the reasons that the board can retain stablity when the GTL REF is set to Disabled is that rather than it actually being disabled, it is simply fixed at 67% and 67% is what DFI have found to be the optimum value for GTL REF at any given VTT.

Enabling the GTL REF setting will allow you to fine tune the percentage figure should your setup require it, however, it is very easy to tweak these settings too much +/- and miss that sweet spot, and often, you will find that the sweet spot was at 67% to begin with.

I have tested with a Q6600 G0 and this responded well to the 67% (Disabled) setting. Again, this doesn't automatically mean that yours will. My last Q6600 G0 responded better to fine tuned GTL REF and a slight bump in VTT, so it really is a case of experimenting and seeing what works best for you.

There is another factor that can have adverse effects on your VTT/GTL tweaking results and that is temperature. From my own tests, I have found that GTL REF tweaking is less effective when using air cooling and a higher Vcore, and similarly, when using sub zero cooling, I found the GTL REF to be incredibly sensitive and the slightest changes caused adverse affects - This is something that I would like other people to comment on because I would like to explore it further

Also, if you would like a more in depth read on GTL REF, click here to go to EdgeOfStability.com.

I will add more as I get to it...
mfcm
QUOTE(gsan @ May 11 2008, 11:23 PM)
UT/LT P35/X38/X48/790FX & DK X38/X48/790FX got this function, but DK P35 dont have  cry.gif  cry.gif

btw, anyone DK P35 user running 500fsb with 1:1 (cpu/ram) ? did you experience double post? and how the double post look like?
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im run 500fsb 1:1 on my DK lastime..erm double post u mean?double reboot?
lichyetan
QUOTE(gsan @ May 11 2008, 11:23 PM)
UT/LT P35/X38/X48/790FX & DK X38/X48/790FX got this function, but DK P35 dont have  cry.gif  cry.gif

btw, anyone DK P35 user running 500fsb with 1:1 (cpu/ram) ? did you experience double post? and how the double post look like?
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u mean dual start after we unplug or switch off the psu... mobo not on standby then when start the pc it will on then off before turning on again? i also getting tis problem, i heard only OC'ed proc will happens.. if stock FSB then it wont happen....
-pWs-
I thought the situation is normal. Not true?? hmm.gif

-pWs-
sub_noob
QUOTE(lichyetan @ May 13 2008, 07:42 PM)
u mean dual start after we unplug or switch off the psu... mobo not on standby then when start the pc it will on then off before turning on again? i also getting tis problem, i heard only OC'ed proc will happens.. if stock FSB then it wont happen....
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I got the same prob.. but i just ignore it.. tongue.gif i notice it only when i bump a lot of vcore.. if only a bit.. just normal..
gsan
QUOTE(lichyetan @ May 13 2008, 07:42 PM)
u mean dual start after we unplug or switch off the psu... mobo not on standby then when start the pc it will on then off before turning on again? i also getting tis problem, i heard only OC'ed proc will happens.. if stock FSB then it wont happen....
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yup, double post when no current supply to the mobo and switch on the psu again. so far I experience few situations regarding this double post.

1. pc on automatic off and on automatic
2. pc on and no POST, press reset (while current is supplies to the mobo) and everything goes as normal.
3. pc on and got POST, but come to windows loading bar, hang at there. Press reset (while current is supplies to the mobo) and everything goes as normal.

no matter which situation, the system need 2 times to run it. so I wonder, which double post you guys experience?
mfcm
QUOTE(gsan @ May 14 2008, 12:14 PM)
yup, double post when no current supply to the mobo and switch on the psu again. so far I experience few situations regarding this double post.

1. pc on automatic off and on automatic
2. pc on and no POST, press reset (while current is supplies to the mobo) and everything goes as normal.
3. pc on and got POST, but come to windows loading bar, hang at there. Press reset (while current is supplies to the mobo) and everything goes as normal.

no matter which situation, the system need 2 times to run it. so I wonder, which double post you guys experience?
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mean its like u reset ur cmos?it run the off then run back rite?i didnt hv any issue with that nod.gif unless i clear the cmos smile.gif
gsan
QUOTE(mfcm @ May 14 2008, 12:29 PM)
mean its like u reset ur cmos?it run the off then run back rite?i didnt hv any issue with that nod.gif unless i clear the cmos smile.gif
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yup, it is my 1st case. did your overclock your proc? how high the fsb on the DK P35 ?
mfcm
QUOTE(gsan @ May 14 2008, 12:45 PM)
yup, it is my 1st case. did your overclock your proc? how high the fsb on the DK P35 ?
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not using DK anymore..lastime can do 525fsb iinm..forgot dy..need to recheck later
overclockalbert
i having double post problem with the stock bios, 10/30/07 iirc.

with the latest bios, no more double post for me.
but some time i oc harder, >500fsb, it'll get 'no keyboard present' error.
after press on button, it boots normally into windows and eveything back to normal.

vailance
just bout this mobo today and a 2gb kit of team extreme ddr800 also a tuniq TX-2
fedup with my nforce650i coz nb hot somemore cannot oc well .. hello all sifus here notworthy.gif
ocz
i already bought this mobo,but dont know how to oc it with Q6600. sweat.gif
gsan
QUOTE(overclockalbert @ May 15 2008, 10:15 PM)
i having double post problem with the stock bios, 10/30/07 iirc.

with the latest bios, no more double post for me.
but some time i oc harder, >500fsb, it'll get 'no keyboard present' error.
after press on button, it boots normally into windows and eveything back to normal.
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erm... you sure before u on the pc, no current supply(psu off, oren LED not light) to the mobo?
gamers maniac
QUOTE(ocz @ May 16 2008, 12:09 AM)
i already bought this mobo,but dont know how to oc it with Q6600. sweat.gif
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u bought this mobo and dunno how to OC? that is really a great lost. such board was never meant to run at stock sweat.gif . this is 'a must overclock mobo' icon_rolleyes.gif .
ocz
QUOTE(gamers maniac @ May 16 2008, 01:45 AM)
u bought this mobo and dunno how to OC? that is really a great lost. such board was never meant to run at stock sweat.gif . this is 'a must overclock mobo' icon_rolleyes.gif .
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I also don't have much times like i did to learn to OC my AMD last time..Now,im focusing at my case mod.
I will learn from you guys on how to oc kaw kaw. thumbup.gif

the default Q6600 is 266 X 9 = 2.4Ghz roght?? now,my rig running at 266 x 7 = 1.9Ghz......... rclxub.gif
-pWs-
EIST and C1E bro.
Just like CnQ in AMD.

Disable it will do. smile.gif

-pWs-
gsan
QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 16 2008, 08:42 AM)
EIST and C1E bro.
Just like CnQ in AMD.

Disable it will do. smile.gif

-pWs-
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bro pWs, did you experience serious vdroop problem with your Q9xxx?
-pWs-
QUOTE(gsan @ May 16 2008, 10:28 AM)
bro pWs, did you experience serious vdroop problem with your Q9xxx?
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Dunno serious or not oh. But confirm got Vdroop. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Because until now I dunno my processor VID.

Coretemp and Realtemp different VID sweat.gif sweat.gif

-pWs-
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