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AoiNatsume
So, anyone got these babes yet? Id say these chips has a huge oc potential, this is my currently result after owning this babe for 1 day, rough overclocking with no optimizing done yet, didn't have the time. Man.. i can get to get everything done drool.gif

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3.8Ghz at stock voltage shocking.gif
orthos passed 8 hours, i was still able to boot at 3.9Ghz, but failed at 2nd hour orthos.

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C2D 45nm users, come in and share your thoughts thumbup.gif

Just to spice this thread up a little, ever wondered what exactly is Penryn? no, not the codename, the real PENRYN.

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Penryn granite is noted for its beauty and strength. Mottled in more-or-less equally sized specks of black and white, it appears a medium-to-dark gray in color, at first glance, but takes on an almost bluish-gray hue when viewed in a subdued light or, when wet or polished. This unique stone can be seen in the foundations and walls of a number of California landmarks including The State Capital and the old U.S. Mint in San Francisco.


Taken from http://blogs.intel.com/technology/2007/04/penryn.php

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A Little interesting fact on Intel's Codenames laugh.gif
xixo_12
wow.. darkside edi.. this is ur target when selling all ur precious stuff brows.gif
-pWs-
Nice result rclxms.gif
I also wish to go to dark side. But no money laugh.gif

-pWs-
AoiNatsume
the dark side is tempting indeed laugh.gif
Switch from am2 to Wolfdale, is indeed a huge performance leap rclxms.gif
-pWs-
QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 28 2008, 09:49 AM)
the dark side is tempting indeed laugh.gif
Switch from am2 to Wolfdale, is indeed a huge performance leap rclxms.gif
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Ya lor sad.gif
Especially the power consumption. That the part attracts me wink.gif

-pWs-
Strik3
Why Hallo Thar Aoi,

I see what you did thar.

Told you that the flesh is weak *evil laugh*

Let us see mOar of the Penryn...quick! flex.gif
AoiNatsume
QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jan 28 2008, 09:51 AM)
Ya lor sad.gif
Especially the power consumption. That the part attracts me  wink.gif

-pWs-
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Yeah, i figure, if its going to be an upgrade, it better be significant laugh.gif

QUOTE(Strik3 @ Jan 28 2008, 10:02 AM)
Why Hallo Thar Aoi,

I see what you did thar.

Told you that the flesh is weak *evil laugh*

Let us see mOar of the Penryn...quick!  flex.gif
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haha, chill bro. Ill be seeing ya tonight or tomorrow.

QUOTE(seeseng @ Jan 28 2008, 10:03 AM)


Interesting read indeed, will add your link to first post thumbup.gif
LExus65
nice result there with a little voltage bump and adequate cooling 4.5ghz should not be a problem i guess......

Aoi i tot u still continue with CF after goin to Dark side ??
cstkl1
QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 28 2008, 09:39 AM)
So, anyone got these babes yet? Id say these chips has a huge oc potential, this is my currently result after owning this babe for 1 day, rough overclocking with no optimizing done yet, didn't have the time. Man.. i can get to get everything done drool.gif

user posted image

3.8Ghz at stock voltage shocking.gif
orthos passed 8 hours, i was still able to boot at 3.9Ghz, but failed at 2nd hour orthos.
C2D 45nm users, come in and share your thoughts thumbup.gif

Just to spice this thread up a little, ever wondered what exactly is Penryn? no, not the codename, the real PENRYN.
Taken from http://blogs.intel.com/technology/2007/04/penryn.php

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A Little interesting fact on Intel's Codenames laugh.gif
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post ure orthos priority 8 blend test or small fft ... min pass 1hour..
me suspect u did priority 1.. which is easy to pass...

wheres the screenies for the 8hours or two hours...??.. sorry with the no of BS that goes around LYN.. need to ask..
till then the claims is BS... in XS way..kekek

or just OCCT 30 minutes.. which runs at priority 8 blend also.


Added on January 28, 2008, 11:53 am
QUOTE(LExus65 @ Jan 28 2008, 11:44 AM)
nice result there with a little voltage bump and adequate cooling 4.5ghz should not be a problem i guess......

Aoi i tot u still continue with CF after goin to Dark side ??
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and a better mobo.. too
AoiNatsume
QUOTE(LExus65 @ Jan 28 2008, 11:44 AM)
nice result there with a little voltage bump and adequate cooling 4.5ghz should not be a problem i guess......

Aoi i tot u still continue with CF after goin to Dark side ??
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well.. due to budget limitation, id rather save up and get a better X38/X48 board later on rather than getting a midrange x38. And by then, im sure the price of 3870x2 is cheaper as well. So.. meanwhile, im giving the 8800GTS G92 a test run.

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 28 2008, 11:48 AM)
post ure orthos priority 8 blend test or small fft ... min pass 1hour..
me suspect u did priority 1.. which is easy to pass...

wheres the screenies for the 8hours or two hours...??.. sorry with the no of BS that goes around LYN.. need to ask..
till then the claims is BS... in XS way..kekek

or just OCCT 30 minutes.. which runs at priority 8 blend also.


Added on January 28, 2008, 11:53 am

and a better mobo.. too
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no prob, will post it up at home later thumbup.gif
likito
this baby really rock ... i saw some fella oc 4.2ghz and above ..
+u ...
cstkl1
current 24/7...lower NB voltages...
thats the idle.. load around 54C.

will try again for stable 4.5 with lower NB...

messing around with the GTL.

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dude whats ure batch??
hmm suspect same as mine.
clawhammer
cstkl1, why is your Everest and Core Temp showing different fsb/clock speed?
kucingfight
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 28 2008, 04:04 PM)
cstkl1, why is your Everest and Core Temp showing different fsb/clock speed?
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fake screenies perhaps? ramped his OC jus after Orthos stable on stock speed laugh.gif
cstkl1
uik .. no i didnt i was using set fsb to go higher and higher..

i loaded the cpu at 460fsb and that voltage...
and then kept going +10fsb higher till i occt showed stable..

give me another test.. and i can prove it to u...
heck i can even load at that no probs and run at that no probs.

would that satisfy u..
the core temp was loaded in the beginning to monitor the temps..
so thats y..
for what i lie..
u already know my proc can do 3dmark06 /3dmark05/aquamark sp32m at 4.5ghz but i couldnt do the OCCT cause temps were getting too high...

so thats y i lowered it..
sishh u ppl..

there was two test i was using OCCT/Orthos Priority 8 and memtest windows for NB/Ram. all aiming for 30 minutes pass..

core temp shows that lower mhz cause increased from there..

u can see the sp1m.. or u want me to do sp32m??

but to hit 4.5 need a lot of increase.. to 1.496v


Added on January 28, 2008, 4:31 pm
QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 28 2008, 04:12 PM)
fake screenies perhaps? ramped his OC jus after Orthos stable on stock speed  laugh.gif
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only ppl like u would do such thing.

only difference with my proc is for 500fsb i need a lot of NB/PLL voltages.. which i still cannot overcome...yet..

will post some 3dmark06 for u...
AoiNatsume
man... cant wait to get home and rape my wolfdale laugh.gif
screenies here n there, tempting the crap outta me xD

anyways, no other users at the moment? sweat.gif
come come report in, dont be shy icon_rolleyes.gif
clawhammer
cstkl1, previously you mentioned in another thread to me that you got it at 4.5Ghz stable (in Hardware section). Perhaps you can base on that and show an Orthos/Prime screenshot?

It would be good to share the good stuff around smile.gif


Added on January 28, 2008, 4:47 pmBtw, if you update your FSB via software, it will still reflect accordingly in those applications. I'm not a detective to see if your screenshot is for real or fake but I'd like to see one so I could have some clue how to make mine do 4.5Ghz just like yours smile.gif

A screenshot of Orthos running for some time would be best.
cstkl1
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 28 2008, 04:44 PM)
cstkl1, previously you mentioned in another thread to me that you got it at 4.5Ghz stable (in Hardware section). Perhaps you can base on that and show an Orthos/Prime screenshot?

It would be good to share the good stuff around smile.gif


Added on January 28, 2008, 4:47 pmBtw, if you update your FSB via software, it will still reflect accordingly in those applications. I'm not a detective to see if your screenshot is for real or fake but I'd like to see one so I could have some clue how to make mine do 4.5Ghz just like yours smile.gif

A screenshot of Orthos running for some time would be best.
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nah it failed memtest windows just after 30 percent...
and i cannot do it now.. later at night need colder temps. my NB will be close to 80C if i do that now.


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and dont ask me y i bumped up 0.008v.. cause i strengten the transaction boost in bios from relax level to enable to boost 0.. happy

coming up soon with SP32m..

hmm should have take a pic of the post for the 3dmark06 to show u on the spot benchie.
clawhammer
Ok, this is not 4.5Ghz anymore and if it failed any tests, it means it's not stable. Also, Super PI doesn't conclude stability. Previously you mention you had it 4.5Ghz daily stable which overwhelms me because I'm still working to get mine at that speed.

Well, good achievement but the tough part is to get it Orthos stable smile.gif
cstkl1
yeah but orthos priority 1 and prime small fft ok...

but NB/PLL .. memtest windows ( hey u should try it really stresses the system equally to prime) ...

i dunno how u guys overclock but this is how i do it..

for cpu core - Prime95 custom small fft
once it passes 1-2 hours i am happy

but it failed memtest... like 30percent getting a lot of errors..
i tried my best with the NB/PLL voltage.. but no luck.. and it was too hot already..

but it was gameable with GOW ..which utilizes up 75 percent per core..


Added on January 28, 2008, 5:01 pm
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 28 2008, 04:56 PM)
Ok, this is not 4.5Ghz anymore and if it failed any tests, it means it's not stable. Also, Super PI doesn't conclude stability. Previously you mention you had it 4.5Ghz daily stable which overwhelms me because I'm still working to get mine at that speed.

Well, good achievement but the tough part is to get it Orthos stable smile.gif
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dude the sp32m just to prove there was no need for that hack job..from the time it takes to complete u can already judge.

from the time u can see..

can u do ure proc at this settings??.. put aside stability.. 3dmark06 etc at 1.408v 4.41ghz??

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bryanyeo87
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 28 2008, 01:37 PM)
dude whats ure batch??
hmm suspect same as mine.
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oh, i made sure it was not the same batch as yours, in fact, the batch coding list which we used to look for the cpus came from intel's QC department in penang, so im pretty sure that it is not the same batch, but it is the same week, as the "gems" comes from only 3 seperate weeks of year 2007 smile.gif


QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 28 2008, 04:41 PM)
man... cant wait to get home and rape my wolfdale laugh.gif
screenies here n there, tempting the crap outta me xD

anyways, no other users at the moment? sweat.gif
come come report in, dont be shy icon_rolleyes.gif
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you and cstkl1 are the only guinea pigs in LYN ahahahhaha wink.gif
cstkl1
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 28 2008, 04:56 PM)
Ok, this is not 4.5Ghz anymore and if it failed any tests, it means it's not stable. Also, Super PI doesn't conclude stability. Previously you mention you had it 4.5Ghz daily stable which overwhelms me because I'm still working to get mine at that speed.

Well, good achievement but the tough part is to get it Orthos stable smile.gif
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orthos priority 6 easy
priority 9-10.. difficult..as this is almost 88-90% of TAT.

from the temps i suspect OCCT = orthos priority 7-8.. somewhere there..
clawhammer
It doesn't concern me if someone does a hack job or not. If someone posts something not genuine, I'll just disregard it smile.gif At the same time, I doubt Super PI is used for that purpose. I'm not an OC detective and I believe the purpose of this thread is to get successful overclock results for the new 45nm so lets not mislead others.

If one can overclock to 4.5 or even 5.0 Ghz with Super PI screenshot, it's a good achivement but let's not confuse people by saying it's "24/7 stable". The other poor guy that doesn't know might think he's got a dud chip and start asking questions why he can't get his 4.5Ghz stable as well smile.gif

If it's not a stable OC, it isn't one irregardless. Even if I can pass Super PI, 3dmark and memtest but the moment I load my game, it hangs so the good result is nice to see but not enjoyable.


Added on January 28, 2008, 5:15 pmSome tests are easy to pass, some harder. For the same, there are different options in Super PI and passing 1M doesn't mean it passes 32M.

The Orthos tests people often talk about is either Small FFT or Blend. The others is a plus but either one above is good enough.
cstkl1
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 28 2008, 05:13 PM)
It doesn't concern me if someone does a hack job or not. If someone posts something not genuine, I'll just disregard it smile.gif At the same time, I doubt Super PI is used for that purpose. I'm not an OC detective and I believe the purpose of this thread is to get successful overclock results for the new 45nm so lets not mislead others.

If one can overclock to 4.5 or even 5.0 Ghz with Super PI screenshot, it's a good achivement but let's not confuse people by saying it's "24/7 stable". The other poor guy that doesn't know might think he's got a dud chip and start asking questions why he can't get his 4.5Ghz stable as well smile.gif

If it's not a stable OC, it isn't one irregardless. Even if I can pass Super PI, 3dmark and memtest but the moment I load my game, it hangs so the good result is nice to see but not enjoyable.


Added on January 28, 2008, 5:15 pmSome tests are easy to pass, some harder. For the same, there are different options in Super PI and passing 1M doesn't mean it passes 32M.

The Orthos tests people often talk about is either Small FFT or Blend. The others is a plus but either one above is good enough.
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dude when i posted the 4.5 i thought i was stable..
then i tried to reduce the NB voltage.. and it failed
and the weir part when i leave it at auto it works which is far less than what i was pumping in.

thats y i suspect the nb/pll was faulty..
eventhough the 500 fsb pass a 4x8 for memtest..

thats y i reran it...
and it failed..
so until i do watercooling i cannot guarantee the bus..

3dmark cpu test 5 times run.

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i will run for u.. orthos blend or small fft.. later at night since u asked...
u can already see my Northbridge temps are freaking hot..
for 500fsb i need 1.8v or pll and northbridge.

how about i post some crysis benchies.. say increase it to 10 runs..

i am just posting all this since i was accused as a faker for the 4.4ghz
so just defending myself..

but for ure problem for games..
if u say it passes 3dmark sp32m.. and fail it games.. usually its not proc.. its ure NB/mem.
since games dont stress the cores much.
and did u know that CPU stress test on 3dmark on loop is equivalent to ORTHOS priority 8 basing on temps.

let me make it clear.. which i will post to ure hearts content later at night..
4.5ghz passed this
3dmark06
3dmark05
aquamark
sp1m
sp32m
OCCT 30 minutes
Prime 95 small fft 15 minutes

but failed memtest windows running two instantaneously 800mb each in 30 percent only and this was after i posted the remarks and benchies..
clawhammer
Actually you're doing it for the community, not me smile.gif Please don't run it for me only laugh.gif As I say, 4.5Ghz Super PI is already good.
cstkl1
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 28 2008, 05:33 PM)
Actually you're doing it for the community, not me smile.gif Please don't run it for me only laugh.gif As I say, 4.5Ghz Super PI is already good.
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ok bro..
but dude.. did u test ure mems?? when u said ure game failed..
try memtest windows...
it will utilize most of ure mem...
so roughly u find a accuracy of 90-95percent for ure NB/PLL/Vdimm/Mem Timings stability with a 75 percent accuracy for ure core.. which is pretty good
since most games uses up to that much only.
clawhammer
I just got it a few days ago, haven't started playing but from what I read, these new 45nm overclocks better on X38 than P35. I'm still unsure but will certainly keep everyone posted if I get something good going smile.gif
cstkl1
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 28 2008, 05:51 PM)
I just got it a few days ago, haven't started playing but from what I read, these new 45nm overclocks better on X38 than P35. I'm still unsure but will certainly keep everyone posted if I get something good going smile.gif
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hmm but on p35 it uses less voltages on NB/PLL and u can achieve higher Bus speeds than X38..

check around i find all that whacked out bus ppl are doing are not on a x38..
clawhammer
It's just what I've read and there are many folks with X38 on Xtreme Forums these days. I don't use dual graphics card so I'll stick with P35 until X38 board gets cheaper.
cstkl1
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 28 2008, 06:00 PM)
It's just what I've read and there are many folks with X38 on Xtreme Forums these days. I don't use dual graphics card so I'll stick with P35 until X38 board gets cheaper.
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err i am also reporting from XS...
keke

see all the higher BUS.. are from p35's but the need more Vcore..which is a downside for equivalent GHZ as the X38
so i guess if ure for high GHZ go for the X38
but if ure want higher FSB go for the P35 mainly the P5k , Foxconn and abit Ip35pro
clawhammer
I've had IP35-PRO and Foxconn MARS now biggrin.gif I'll let everyone knows but initially, MARS look very much more promising.
cstkl1
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 28 2008, 06:44 PM)
I've had IP35-PRO and Foxconn MARS now biggrin.gif I'll let everyone knows but initially, MARS look very much more promising.
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i had faster superpi result and 3dmark cpu scores on the mars..
just a bit compared to the maximus
but i think with the new bios 0907 on the maximus they are around the same already.

that is an awesome mobo.. so many silly ppl dont know how good that mobo is..
they keep saying that if they dont overlcock blah blah blah

but even at stock theres a difference in mem controllers/bios tweaking/cpu speeds...
and the foxconn p35 mars is one of the kings for such a marginal difference in price.


Added on January 28, 2008, 6:55 pmin a dillemma now..

kindda like the HIS hd3870 ICEq turbo..
or should i get a saphire HD3870x2 which i can get it tommorow..
hmmm

the HD3870X2 looks like has a lot of bugs etc...
and dont clock well...
dual bios interesting.

Saphire HD3870X2 - RM1550 ppl!!
AoiNatsume
hmm.. 3870x2, id assume the performance is where around the 3870Xfire, tried that already, now giving a chance to 8800GTS G92 and see how it fares against 3870 CF. Will only get Ati cards when i plan to go CF, which after after my next mobo upgrade brows.gif
a1098113
anyone here knows why memtest gives errors whilst orthos for 3 hours(blend) does not give errors?
kmarc
QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 28 2008, 10:43 PM)
anyone here knows why memtest gives errors whilst orthos for 3 hours(blend) does not give errors?
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Not stable leh..... Not all programs will give an error..... smile.gif
a1098113
eh, hmm orthos blend and OCCT doesnt give an error liao. ONly Memtest.. can give advice how i can reduce the error chances besides buying Crucial ram lol. Now its OCed to ddr2 900 @ cl4. this secret rams brows.gif
kmarc
QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 28 2008, 10:51 PM)
eh, hmm orthos blend and OCCT doesnt give an error liao. ONly Memtest.. can give advice how i can reduce the error chances besides buying Crucial ram lol. Now its OCed to ddr2 900 @ cl4. this secret rams brows.gif
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The usual lor, either increase vdimm, loosen the timings, or set a lower speed.... no cheating tongue.gif
a1098113
@kmarc
i wish i can cheat lor.. brows.gif but fuiyo this ram can fly laugh.gif ill try what u say lor.
AoiNatsume
alrighty, ran orthos on priority 8 small fft test more than 2 hours as requested my cstkl1 to prove that i was able to do 3.8Ghz in stock vcore =)

bryanyeo87
congratulations, looks like the hard work paid off that day eh? brows.gif

come come, selling the same batch as aoi's at rm 850 brows.gif icon_idea.gif

satisfaction guaranteed whistling.gif
AoiNatsume
hey guys, any other 8400 users here? apparently im having some issues with my temps. The temperatures are flying sky high !!!, even on stock voltage, my load temp goes all the way up to 52c, now testing 1.3v @ 4.0Ghz, its climbing up to 63c. Im sure the TR 120eX(lapped) performs way better than this, tried reseating it many times, and checked the TIM, it is indeed evenly spreaded. Contact is definately not an issue here.

Now, the interesting part, upon touching the hsf directly while on load, reported temp on core temp / Everest is 63c, but.. the bloody hsf is freezing cold !!!

this really is disappointing and is crippling my overclocking.
IcEMoCHa
wats ur tcase,tjunction temp?... at idle/load?... apparently my ifx-14 feels cold when i touch it even when i orthos it, the temp reaches 59C @ 3.7Ghz-1.51vcore... maybe its because of the slow heat transfers of the heatpipe?... But i think urs is high considering the voltage...
flatfinger
i think the temp sensor reading is not correct yet...its a new proc...maybe the software still not support it...until next update
tesla_rage
QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 29 2008, 02:24 AM)
hey guys, any other 8400 users here? apparently im having some issues with my temps. The temperatures are flying sky high !!!, even on stock voltage, my load temp goes all the way up to 52c, now testing 1.3v @ 4.0Ghz, its climbing up to 63c. Im sure the TR 120eX(lapped) performs way better than this, tried reseating it many times, and checked the TIM, it is indeed evenly spreaded. Contact is definately not an issue here.

Now, the interesting part, upon touching the hsf directly while on load, reported temp on core temp / Everest is 63c, but.. the bloody hsf is freezing cold !!! 

this really is disappointing and is crippling my overclocking.
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Maybe the temp-read is misleading. You said it yourself that the HSF feels cold to the touch.

I don't find it disappointing and crippling though. Maybe it's just a wrong temp read smile.gif
cstkl1
QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 29 2008, 02:24 AM)
hey guys, any other 8400 users here? apparently im having some issues with my temps. The temperatures are flying sky high !!!, even on stock voltage, my load temp goes all the way up to 52c, now testing 1.3v @ 4.0Ghz, its climbing up to 63c. Im sure the TR 120eX(lapped) performs way better than this, tried reseating it many times, and checked the TIM, it is indeed evenly spreaded. Contact is definately not an issue here.

Now, the interesting part, upon touching the hsf directly while on load, reported temp on core temp / Everest is 63c, but.. the bloody hsf is freezing cold !!! 

this really is disappointing and is crippling my overclocking.
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the tjunction is wrong..
i am very sure of it
cause with the e6850 when i hit 72C for a long time it will shut down..

but with e8400 it allows u to go right up to 80C..
so theres a error in the tjunction by 8-10C..

hence i follow the asus cpu temp with is 8-10C difference than core temp.
flatfinger
QUOTE(tesla_rage @ Jan 29 2008, 10:52 AM)
Maybe the temp-read is misleading. You said it yourself that the HSF feels cold to the touch.

I don't find it disappointing and crippling though. Maybe it's just a wrong temp read smile.gif
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 29 2008, 10:56 AM)
the tjunction is wrong..
i am very sure of it
cause with the e6850 when i hit 72C for a long time it will shut down..

but with e8400 it allows u to go right up to 80C..
so theres a error in the tjunction by 8-10C..

hence i follow the asus cpu temp with is 8-10C difference than core temp.
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even the coretemp latest 0.96.1 also giving the core0 n core1 weird reading...the TjMax read 105'...lets wait until its fix n support for the penryn core..

everest also giving weird reading....

all this depend on ur mobo...
cstkl1
QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 29 2008, 12:22 AM)
alrighty, ran orthos on priority 8 small fft test more than 2 hours as requested my cstkl1 to prove that i was able to do 3.8Ghz in stock vcore =)
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nice
and 4ghz at 1.3v??
try 1.28..

AoiNatsume
another thing about the temps that i noticed this morning. Im idling at 49, full load 53? i even tested with both OCCT and Orthos running, same temps, oh well... i think its an issue with the DTS. Another amd brisbane flaw doh.gif
Eoma
Can i request for 8200/8400 tests on a P965s platform (both Gigabyte and DFI have released BIOS which support 1333Mhz 45nm CPUs already). Wanna see if the OC is cripped in any way. Thx in advance.
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