Guys, wif the Celeron dual-core coming into market, i guess it's time for a "budget" corner of Intel Dual-Core overclocking. Whereby you can get processor + motherboard combo of around RM350-400 and still get 66-75% overclock over stock, for almost close to free!

This thread is solely for Celeron(Conroe-L), Celeron or Pentium Dual-Core and Intel 945GC chipset motherboard users, using on-board graphics, the budget crowd.

Let's start with myself, i've used both the E2140 and E2160 in an ASrock Conroe1333-D667 R1.0 motherboard(based on the 945GC chipset i mentioned). On the E2140, i manage to crank up a 75% overclock, jacking up the FSB from 200MHz to 350MHz before i can't go any higher, might be the Vcore as i've tried plugging in a PCI-E graphics card(so that it reduces the chance of the IGP holding back), using an IDE HDD(due to PCI lock) and am still stuck. On the E2160, it's a 66% overclock from 200MHz to 334MHz FSB.

So who else running these cheapo combos? Maybe we can start a new trend of budget Intel dual-core overclocking.

I'm in the process of updating the motherboards available locally below then RM200 price bracket and runs the Intel chipset, will update more on this first post when i get more info. Would be glad to do a review on any of the 945GC based boards if anyone is nice enough to loan me a unit other than the ASrock Conroe1333 variant.

Bumping this thread.

Setup a cheapo Asrock Conroe1333 D667 with E2160 BSELled, running 2.7ghz. I would say, this would be the best combo <RM400 . However, it's limited to the capability of your CPU @ stock vcore, as there's no option to adjust vcore @ bios. Either that, you would need a pin volt mod.

Yay! Finally a reply

Hoping more would be joining the "cheap ass C2D" gang. <RM400 for CPU + Motherboard combo no longer just applies to AMD

Yeah... for these cheap mobo and CPU setup, BSEL(a must) and VID(in case your chip needs more vcore) is a must as can only adjust FSB and Ram Timings.

The VDIMM mod is pretty simple as long as you've got a multi-meter.

Pairing an E2160 with Asrock 945GC-DDR667.
Running stable at 2.7ghz.

BSEL mod was an hassle.

Can get 3Ghz stable? Try using aftermarket cooler or just suicide oc and get screenshot.

It depend on the CPU itself.
Not all CPU can do 3ghz at stock vcore.

This board has no vcore adjustment. Its nothing to do with temperature (aftermarket cooler)

waaaa.....dual core can get till 2.7....very nice:)
last time i try e4500@2.2 with mobo 945chipset only can push till 2.4,then sanko n irenic tolld me to change mobo if i want to get better oc.hehe

It just because u did not try the BSEL mod.
If not you should be able to go further.

No even a little vcore change on this mobo? Hope the bsel mod can increase the chances.

what is bsel?

Not even a little unless u looking for vcore mod.
If an E2160 can do 3ghz at stock vcore on this board, it will be super good bargain isn't it?

A mod to processor pin so can fool the mobo to think this is a higher FSB processor

lol... sumthing like PS2 mod chip rite???

Depends on your chip, i had 3 E2160 hit 3GHz(333MHz FSB) stable with stock cooler and also Xigmatek HDT=S963



It's because when you use a 200MHz FSB processor, the PCI-E would go way overclocked even at 266MHz FSB, when you do a BSEL(for 200MHz --> 266MHz FSB) mod to fool the motherboard that the processor is in fact a 266MHz FSB unit, the PCI-E will reset back to 100MHz at 266MHz FSB, the reason this particular chipset couldn't overclock high was due to a non-functional PCI-E lock



There's no vcore change on the ASrock Conroe1333-D667, but there's VDIMM(there's already vmod around) and also V-chipset options available in the BIOS via 3 settings.

why e2160 got 2 version ? one is with lower heatsink one,and one is normal jus like other intel proc,
which one is better ?



and which 945gc board is the best ?

there are few choices:

msi
abit
asus
gigabyte
ecs

which one is more overclockable? i have tried the asus and msi,they only manage to go 2GHZ with e2160,the ecs cant overclock,

give some coment pls

Old processor tend to oc better.Haven't try 945GC board before so no comment

i have notice tat all e2160 with the date 2008 are in the lower heatsink,and those 2007 still the normal one,if both run at stock speed,which will better ?

the bigger the heatsink, better heat dissipation it is. assume both heatsinks built in the same material.

size of heatsink determine the temperature of the processor, overclockability? no but technique/skill YES !

hmm interesting, sorry kucing i am in this thread just for one comment size of the heatsink does determine how much temperature can be dissipated, also the built of it. Thus if the temperature is controlled to a certain extent, your ability to Overclock is therefore higher. Thus disregarding the proc built and stepping in nature, if the variables were to only be temps and overclockability, i believe size does matter. Basic laws of heat eh>? technique and skill does help in reducing and making use with what you have to gain high speeds.

if u back to the Q asked by xk2, which E2160 version is more overclockable.
Certainly it not determine by the size the heatsink.

It is not a must to use stock heatsink to overclock. Thus it never a benchmark to show how overclockable is that particular processor is.

in that question, well, the stepping and batch is the answer. thats why i pointed across the important point that you have to disregard the proc built and stepping in this equation. I was merely answering to your statement that says that

actually i am asking about batch la jus take the heatsink as a standard to represent the batch only,and of course,if wan overclock kao kao sure need a aftermarket heasink la,then which of u are using 945gc board and manage to overclock well ?

Most of the reason why people find the Intel 945GC chipset "not overclockable" is behind it's not just drop-in can overclock. The BSEL 266MHz FSB mod MUST be done to enable it to overclock better(to at least 333MHz FSB), that's the main "secret recipe" for the budget Intel Dual Core + 945GC chipset overclocks.

bro,can teach me how to do tat ? coz i have tested all 945gc mobo with e2160,no one can reach higher than 2 ghz

and i wanna get myself a combo of e2160 plus 945gc soon,i plan to get asus brand's 945gc,so hope u can teach me how to do the mod ?coz no money to go for p35

I ain't too sure if the Asus board would overclock much, since it's kinda a "budget build" anyway, i would really go wif the proven ASrock Conroe1333-D667 that me, kucingfight and allenultra is using.

Of course, you can try the Asus also but i'm not too sure about it's BIOS options.

Nevertheless, with the BSEL mod done, you already have a 33% increase in speed

Benchmark between 2 945gc mobo




using gigabyte 945gc micro atx mobo and Msi 945gc micro atx mobo with e2160 MO stepping

msi system:

e2160 @ 1.8ghz
1x 1gb kingston value ram ddr2 667
windows xp

super pi 1m = 33s


gigabyte system:


e2160 @1.8ghz
2 x 1gb kingston value ram ddr2 667 dual channel
windows vista

super pi 1m = 32s

Just curious, is the comparison from local? Would love to check out the Gigabyte mobo from the owner.

ya,it is done by me,coz i choose the spec for fren

just got myself e2160 and reaper ram today.. hunting for a budget mobo now. w8 for my result. lol

hey, im kinda new here. well, i just got my E2200 (dun ask me why i didnt get E21XX instead, n its OEM, so i got it cheap)
im using MSI 945G board here n heres the result i manage to push



i cant seem to adjust the multiplier so, the furthest i could boot is on 265mhz. (mobo failed to boot when i try on 270mhz)

Just my 2 cent opinion.......

Someone claim that the latest (2008) e2160 have shorter heatsink.........my theory is that intel dont want people to reach high OC level with stock cooling....???(i saw some other forum that e2160 easily reach 2.8Ghz with stock fan and stock vcore)......

about the heatsink i dunno, but e2160 that ca achieve 2.8g with stock fan & vcore is common(i got one from allenutra 2.8g stock and still climbing). 2160 to hit 3g at stock is a gem.

searching around the internet, find out even got 1333 FSB mod & 1600 fsb mod... can it be done on my e6300?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132900

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=149513

2.9ghz at stock vcore would be very good.

My E2160 only managed to do 3ghz at stock vcore.
Goldfries' did 3.2ghz, kucingfight's did very well too.

Basically e2xxx max out around 2.8 to 3.0ghz for stock vcore.

Yay count me in,just got my hands on a cheap Pentium Duo Core E2140 1.6Ghz and a Gigabyte 945GCM motherboard with 1GB RAM and onboard graphic card.

Planning to oc above the 2.4Ghz mark

Got any advice and comments on this motherboard?

bros, using e2140, the Biostar mb that I have cannot oc in bios ..cannot change the fsb..stuck at 200 ...when use the software provided by mb disc and change to fsb 290, says oced but when run 3dmarks no diff--how come? Doesn' twork? tx

try bsel mod, see if the cpu boot on the board.
then try OC from there.



ronho, try the bsel mod first. then use clockgen to push if BIOS oc option sux.
Flash to latest bios?

well, i research bout bsel Pentium Dual Core E2xxx series, the only thing i got is how to mod E21XX series, but never E22XX series, so kinda worried if its E22XX can be bsel mod like E21XX

beside, its seem that there is someone using E2200 bsel mod to 2.9 ghz (well im hitting this with FSB OC), will it OCable after bsel safely? (i dun wan to fry it yet)

fyonne, u seem a bit confused here.

bsel mod is for CPU with 800mhz to be recognised as 1066mhz when slotted into the board.
it works on e4xxx series as well but not all motherboards support bsel modded CPU.

"dun want to fry it yet"....monitor the temperature and make sure heatsink fit nicely, what would u worry then?

bro, use what to bsel?? heard some pen but buy where and what name?? some rear demister thing???? whrer??? txtx

Silver Conductive Ink Pen

ya if u got conductive pen, that's the best. Or go for the all cheapo way, use kitchen foil + glue

conductive pen how to get bro?? buy from hardware shop or ..... tx

i found tat my e2160 modded cannot get higher than 2.8 at msi p35 neo f mobo,while a original e2160 can go above 3.0 on it,so...after modded will block the potential of overclock ?

conductive pen aint cheap, at least like rm80 or something



are you comparing stock & modded on the particular e2160 on ur P35? u don need to BSEL mod for P35, unless u wanna it to boot @ 266fsb everytime

my fren got an e2160 which is put on p35,it can overclock to 2.88 daily use,then i wan to see my modded e2160 if put on p35 can overclock more than 2.88 or not,but the result is cannot ,it only manage to archieve 2.6 but in msi 945gc board,my modded e2160 manage to get 2.6ghz no problem,so i think it is not suitable to put a modded e2160 to p35 chipset

cannot wait to test my modded e2160 on my asrock wolfdale1333 board i have all hardware (proc+ram+mobo+ gc) in hand now but the casing and psu all in hometown

not suitable to put e2160 on p35 chipset?
if then how my e2160 did 3ghz on my gaygaybyte?

ur friend e2160 != your e2160.
Its not the same, not all CPU with same overclockability.

In that case, your not having the CPU as the controlled factor. Pop ur fren's cpu n i'm sure it will do 2.88ghz on your board (assuming ur board isnt the limiting factor)



ditto, well said

conductive pen is rm 80/90 ??? wow, better go get new mb...

where can i get full tutorial of bsel mod? seems interesting