Yes. Im in.
Kindly P.M me your trasac details.
Thanks!

wah.. mADmAN going for set #4.. anyway, Myself very happy with opamp 627 on the DAC indeed.

ermm seem alot ppl got for opa627 if who interested i got 2 opa2107 for sale .....

abel....PM me the price for the OPA2107 u wanna sell....

I think i will aim for this DAC....
its cheap

hehe,contact bro GodluvSxS for this DAC.

why bother about soundcard, go for this dac. Anyone rolling any opamp ? come share some review.

ya,this DAC much better than some of the soundcard.

any opamp that make the dac sound warmer?

DY2000, warm like tubes
You can ask bro ccschua, he favor tubes signatures.

lol, but i think it quite hard to get here..
yo.. bro ccschua, apa jalan to get it?

Ada jalan, get it from www.diykits.com.hk Try to open a bulk for this to share the shipping, roughly RM40 per piece shipped

Is the DY2000 similar to the LT1057 or the LT1358?

DY2000 is different than LT1057. The DY2000 makes the vocal sounds smoother and warm when used in my system. It is more laid back. Musics separation and dynamics is not as good as 627. overall if I can get dy2000 metal can at reasonable price, I will giv it a try.

Does anyone here tried OPA2134 and OPA2227 with ZERO? OPA2134 is around RM8 while OPA2227 is around RM13 from Farnell malaysia, RM20 ish combined is worth a try plus a purchase of RM20 at Farnell Malaysia charges nothing for your shipping.

I got this OPA2134, from what I heard it's fuller and deeper sounding than LT1364 Both OPA2134 and OPA2227 are reported to be quite the most full sounding chip among the OPA family

hi bro,looking solution for your Aego and ZERo?

I tried OPA2227 and OPA2228, not easy to spot different between them. (Some said OPA2228 is better, more airy.)

Compare to OPA2107 they r less emotional. Every aspect is a level below OPA2107(their price also). Anyway, they r still good enough and much better than stock. Might be worth while if u cannot get a higher-end op-amp at this moment.

To all the guys, i will be at smarthome to audition the full tube amp with Harbeth and Monitor audio BR2. If you are interested, please drop by tomolow 5.30pm at smarthome. I will also bring my soundstage 1.5 with Mullard tube to PK with Menthor telefunken tubes. The zero will test to see if its really warm.

You gonna get yourself one of those?
Well Zero gangs!! lets roll ~amp!!

Smarthome:
http://www.smarthomesolution.net/buy-Sell/main.htm

okie... where is smarthome?

5.30pm til what time???

coz ill be coming in the office tomorrow to finish up some work...so if finish in time then mebbe i can drop by with my ZERO oso.

Well all are welcome. I will bring the DY2000 and we roll till the cow come home.

Tks to my soundstage 1.5 with Mullard tube, I made the shop owner some sales for the BR2. do bring your cd, we normally listen to Cai Qing.

tomolo i will be at Bukit Jalil maybe i can drop by ...

hi all,
jz wan to ask if i buy Zero DAC pair wif my Aego then do i need buy 1 more amp to pair wif ? what is preamp? im a newbie

You dont need another amp to pair with According to wiki, A preamplifier (preamp), or control amp in some parts of the world, is an electronic amplifier which precedes another amplifier to prepare an electronic signal for further amplification or processing. In layman term, it's like a booster to amplifier, some said preamp contribute to tonal quality while power amp gives the power

so do u means i jz only hav to buy a DAC to pair with my AegoM without a amp?

Yup, because the Aego M comes is an active speaker which means it has built in amp

(Set up A)
PC (Dvd ROM) > Sound card > DAC > Aego M.
or
PC (Dvd ROM) > DAC > Aego M.

*Aego have build in amp, so Zero can work as a DAC to decode digital data from Dvd ROM/ Sound card (your source) and convert into analog form which can be use by amp inside ur Aego. At the same time, Zero DAC also work as a tonal enhancer by processing the digital data more precisely to provide better digital to analog data for your amp.

(Set up B)
Normal set-up (without DAC),

PC (Dvd ROM) > Sound card> Aego M.

*sound card convert digital to analog and analog goes in ur Aego build in amp.





*Coaxial output or spdif port: Transfer digital data
*RCA port: Transfer analog data.

Now clear?

p/s:

If you alrdy have a good sound card, then might not need Zero,
If you're using build-in/cheapo sound card, then Zero definately will provides u better signature.
Sound card + Zero, i cant tell. Never done this b4.. but i guess not much different (for music playing).

thx yehlai
tat is wat i confuse for. ur explanation really good enuf n make me clear nw. hehe
thx a lot

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Added on July 5, 2008, 2:50 amthen nw im jz using built in soundcard for my AegoM.
so can u suggest me buy a soundcard or DAC? which 1 better?

Dac / Amp :

LT1057 + LT1469 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1057 + LT1364 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1057 + LT1361 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1057 + LM4562 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1361 + LT1469 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1361 + LT1364 DAC=good, phone=great

LT1361 + LT1057 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1361 + LM4562 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1364 + LT1469 DAC=great, phone=great

LT1364 + LT1361 DAC=great, phone=great

not really understand these chip how to b used. but how abot d default(OPA2604) chip in Zero DAC?
how much the range these chip? can anyone upload some pic wer these chip located on d board?
bcoz interested to buy a DAC so hav to ask u all expert here
thx alot

Hi,
I'm following different discussions of this very good DAC and I'm planning to buy it. Just one thing is still nebolous in my mind, and its the follow: if I plug my dac to the optical or digital coaxial out of my sound card, will I hear sound coming from this output, in every situations like games, sound processing (like vst applications), video and music player, just like the analog output, without any need to configure it by software? If its correct, it will be very useful, just like continue using my current sound card but with an upgraded sound (better digital-analog definition). Someone can confirm this? Thk a lot!



Ill suggest you to look to this discussion: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/review-ze...pre-amp-269458/
The last picture in the first page will respond to your answer! Ill suggest to even to read the all thread (even if its VERY long), but u will get out everything u must possibly know about this dac.
Bye!

You might want to specify which sound card that you are using. Some sound cards require you to "enable" optical out. Do keep in mind that your soundcard must have either a coaxial or optical output to feed the DAC.

If you have a recent Mac, it's just plug and play. You'll require a mini toslink to toslink cable.

Unfortunately, I'm a windows user My sound card is an audigy with a frontal panel where I can plug optical or coaxial input/output. What in particular concern me is if in a situation of sound processing, like feeding an analogical input (like a guitar) and elaborating it digitally (in a software) with the asio drivers of my sound card, I will have a digital output from this source to give to the dac (or not). Hope this is possible, even if I know its a strange question. Thk!

How is Bronze BR2?
I like it so much! have one pair with me now..

I'm sorry but I don't have a Creative card. You might want to ask the ppl over at Head-fi, I know there are a few of them who are creative users.

I hope u get it less than RM 1380. It is very good speaker indeed. u need to run it for some time.

We tried the ZERO DAC with DY2000 compared to a famous Japanese brand DAC (> RM 1000). The ZERO sounds more forward, warm vocal (with coloration of course). The zero dac sounds a lit aggrasive at the top end, probably due to time to run in the unit. The unit in test was from Abel.

vocal wise, Harbeth is still the best.

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Added on July 5, 2008, 10:12 pmActually if you sound can output digital optical it will be fine. If not, u can also use USB and get the USD/SPDIF converter and use ASIO4ALL for output. that will give u bit perfect.

bit perfecT means, whatever digital signal out from PC is received in exact copy by the DAC. The people in Stereophile has done that. trust me.

anyone bulking in the DY2000?? I want 2 pcs

To tell the truth, I felt great with some of the other opamp but become so so only after a while (the excitement dies). Until DY2000 comes, that excitement is still burning.

All the while, even my Sony NS76H DVD player (which has been a faithful transport) can sound natural and clearer than the ZERO dac. Even the Marantz 63 sounds better than the ZERO DAC in terms of vocal representation. But all this is defeated by DY2000 as I wanted more warm vocal, good separation and the controlled low end. Now wish that someone can provide a Marantz 63 KI to PK against ZERO DAC.

Again this ZERO dac with DY2000 is for DAC section. headphone I am not sure.

Yes, less than that.
Can't afford Harbeth (3-5K), i play a lot Orchestra and OST, so opt for Bronze BR2. Fall in love with this BR2 when i play orchestra demo in the audio shop. Gonna pair BR2 with turntable after finish repaire my old amp.
DY2000 is good for orchestra too? (compare with OPA627). If favor detailed, high variation and dynamic. Hope OPA627 can provide me all that.
Actually from Head-Fi review, stock Zero signature is very close to the tube amp alrdy, DY2000 can make it even more alike full tube feel?
Coaxial is full digital output also rite? Coaxial digital signal out from Dvd palyer is received in exact copy by the DAC also?


So nice, Zero + DY2000 can do better then Marantz in some aspect. Really worth evry penny!!

i really like the Marantz 63 KI sound ... if i got $$$ i go for it hehehe
what i remeber the KI sound more forward n thick vocal even compare to Zero + DY2000

those who like vocal go for dy2000 or LT1057

those who want to get dy2000 can go to www.diykits.com.hk but all all is used one

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Added on July 6, 2008, 10:59 am

if like that u go for opa627 if u like Orchestra and OST bcoz Dy2000 the sound more relax n slow.wut i found stock opamp less detail staging more narrow.but for me opa2604 not really like tube feel dy2000 the seperation are better and detail also better vocal more forward

OPA 2604 is just like Low Pass filter. It doesnt give you anything extra. OPA 627 is like Bandpass but boasted at the 2 extreme.

ya... i also looking for it, just leave me a pm if any1 bulking for DY2000

Dac / Amp :

LT1057 + LT1469 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1057 + LT1364 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1057 + LT1361 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1057 + LM4562 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1361 + LT1469 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1361 + LT1364 DAC=good, phone=great

LT1361 + LT1057 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1361 + LM4562 DAC=good, phone=good

LT1364 + LT1469 DAC=great, phone=great

LT1364 + LT1361 DAC=great, phone=great

can anyone tell me these chips are changeable on board? can anyone put d picture wer are these chips located oso?
really thx a lot if someone can upload d picture..

although i have been read this but still not understand. poor in english n noob in DAC oso.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/review-ze...pre-amp-269458/

Hi bro, i just sent a email to DIYKITS, ask them to quote a price for me. Will start a bulk once I got the pricing





The Red circle one is DAC opamp, while the two Green circle are headamp opamp Opamp is like a lens to camera, kinda plug and play, and you got the different output

PS: Thanks to bro mADmAN for the full topview pic

Nice, another bulk from GodLuv!! DIYKITS's DY2000 can found used one, hope we can get nice price. Can use this to play Jazz vocal.

Good that DY2000 bulk is going on. Now I really feel steady with ZERO, dunno for how long. But I still know ZERO has Potential to go further than that. I feel the output stage has some improvment to be done.

Yesterday I was wondering why the DAC gain stage is so low, until I realise I forgot to plug in the DY2000 (it was taken out for audition)

I think you wont go wrong with DY2000 if you are those who like vocals.

Maybe something related to discrete

The explanation with picture are clear.i also quite confused with these some time ago.

On the Saturday, I learned another thing i.e. power cord. Bro Abel bring along his mighty Transparent power cord and the amazing thing happens to the full tube amp. The sound just changed and my face expression was like paper.

Now I just wonder if the power cord can do any wonder to ZERO DAC or not ?



what was the setup at the hifi shop? power cord , cable, amp and source?

Bro abel/chua, mind to share how power cord will change the output?
Use silver transparent cable, 50W amp, Cd player (dunno wht brand, but looks nice). The room is big, but BR2 perform very well.
Speaker cable shorter is better rite?

p/s: Puchong shop have Kimber Kable PowerKord and Belden C 7874 also rite? Borrow to do some audition.

New poison: Its a trap!!

DY2000 suit vocal?how about instruments?