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empire23
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 23 2008, 03:10 PM)
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would love to have a chance to have a go at the DAH1 man... of all the DACs so far thats the one thats enticed me the most tongue.gif

as for scheduling....almost everyone knows im constantly working. even today public holiday oso im in the office doh.gif


Added on January 23, 2008, 3:10 pmempy.... when u leaving?

and how long would the mod take

also estimated cost. brows.gif

(DAC isnt mine (yet?) still undecided to buy or not to buy. very tempting but we'll see biggrin.gif)
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Leaving 13th, if you wanna do a full mod it shouldn't be a problem since i already know the ZL's general design rules so it's easy. Tops oso 1 whole day lah.

Cost for a decent mod would be 200-300.
mADmAN
whoah....that doesnt leave me much time to gather the cash.....will see how it goes....currently the amp still doesnt belong to me so modding something that aint mine...aint nice laugh.gif

will let u know....tempting hmm.gif


Added on January 23, 2008, 6:26 pmoh by the way....is it possible to mod this to be able to accept USB input????

although i doubt it, that mod would be interesting brows.gif
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 23 2008, 06:23 PM)
whoah....that doesnt leave me much time to gather the cash.....will see how it goes....currently the amp still doesnt belong to me so modding something that aint mine...aint nice laugh.gif

will let u know....tempting hmm.gif


Added on January 23, 2008, 6:26 pmoh by the way....is it possible to mod this to be able to accept USB input????

although i doubt it, that mod would be interesting brows.gif
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LOL empy's offer is kinda interesting, mADmAN's heart is saying yes to him ...
empire23
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 23 2008, 06:23 PM)
whoah....that doesnt leave me much time to gather the cash.....will see how it goes....currently the amp still doesnt belong to me so modding something that aint mine...aint nice laugh.gif

will let u know....tempting hmm.gif


Added on January 23, 2008, 6:26 pmoh by the way....is it possible to mod this to be able to accept USB input????

although i doubt it, that mod would be interesting brows.gif
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Very dooable, but this will take quite long as USB to I2S/SPDIF converters usually come in SSOP28 or MSOP28 which is hard to solder and very hard to make a board for. Alot of thus has to be ordered.

I'll ask TI if they have a free evaluation board.
mADmAN
shocking.gif very doable? damn....lemme know of the availability of the stuff and cost as well....

damn this is gonna be interesting drool.gif

decided i confirm gonna send to u for the RM300 mods though biggrin.gif
scy320
wah,this thread so poisoning,really toxic.
walabies
maDman is poisoning himself... drool.gif
I also working today la. Cheers to all 'workers' working today. Labour law never protect us.
scy320
QUOTE(walabies @ Jan 24 2008, 12:51 AM)
maDman is poisoning himself... drool.gif
I also working today la. Cheers to all 'workers' working today. Labour law never protect us.
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labour law like never exist in this country,lolz. vmad.gif mad.gif
mikelanding
QUOTE(walabies @ Jan 24 2008, 12:51 AM)
maDman is poisoning himself... drool.gif
I also working today la. Cheers to all 'workers' working today. Labour law never protect us.
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QUOTE(scy320 @ Jan 24 2008, 07:31 AM)
labour law like never exist in this country,lolz. vmad.gif  mad.gif
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FYI, Labour law only protect those who earn less than RM1500 per month(Gross). I think most of us here are not qualify. tongue.gif

By the way, anyone know wer to get browndog adapter? I only can find some at ebay..For 2 pcs, USD9.99+10(postal fee)..
GodLuvSxS
Hi, brothers and sisters, the ZERO dac bulk just need another two units to kick start the bulk, HURRY UP! Anyway, a big thank you for you guys, thanks for considering!
yuheng
good luck dude, good DAC i shall said, as ZL ex owner, i will say...DAC make ur sound experience different, madman, when u wanna come over to my house, and get poisoned from my AMP???

mADmAN
QUOTE(yuheng @ Jan 24 2008, 05:13 PM)
good luck dude, good DAC i shall said, as ZL ex owner, i will say...DAC make ur sound experience different, madman, when u wanna come over to my house, and get poisoned from my AMP???
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hmm.gif

wait laaaaaa....super busy now...until my dental surgery oso have to postpone doh.gif

ill definitely come over to ur place man....need to change my mylars laugh.gif
GodLuvSxS
For those who are bothering about no SPDIF connection available from you computer, I may help you guys getting USB to SPDIF signal converter like below, so it works like getting signal from your USB port and through that device, after that the signal will be convert into SPDIF signal and send to the ZERO dac. TATTa ~~~ There your ZERO dac would start singing! And this useful little device would only cost you guys RM20.
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mikelanding
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 24 2008, 11:47 PM)
For those who are bothering about no SPDIF connection available from you computer, I may help you guys getting USB to SPDIF signal converter like below, so it works like getting signal from your USB port and through that device, after that the signal will be convert into SPDIF signal and send to the ZERO dac. TATTa ~~~ There your ZERO dac would start singing! And this useful little device would only cost you guys RM20.
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Wow..i want 1X USB to SPDIF signal converter...can help me get it??
scy320
QUOTE(mikelanding @ Jan 24 2008, 08:52 AM)
FYI, Labour law only protect those who earn less than RM1500 per month(Gross). I think most of us here are not qualify. tongue.gif

By the way, anyone know wer to get browndog adapter? I only can find some at ebay..For 2 pcs, USD9.99+10(postal fee)..
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im not qualified,coz i havent start earning yet,still a student,lolz.bro,why u wan to use browndog adapter?
yeah_guyz
QUOTE(scy320 @ Jan 25 2008, 12:19 AM)
im not qualified,coz i havent start earning yet,still a student,lolz.bro,why u wan to use browndog adapter?
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alot of us also student la...it's just depends on how you manage ur money biggrin.gif biggrin.gif brows.gif
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(mikelanding @ Jan 25 2008, 12:13 AM)
Wow..i want 1X USB to SPDIF signal converter...can help me get it??
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Sure, why not! Will PM you once the bulk kick start smile.gif
TeOtq
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 24 2008, 11:47 PM)
For those who are bothering about no SPDIF connection available from you computer, I may help you guys getting USB to SPDIF signal converter like below, so it works like getting signal from your USB port and through that device, after that the signal will be convert into SPDIF signal and send to the ZERO dac. TATTa ~~~ There your ZERO dac would start singing! And this useful little device would only cost you guys RM20.
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is it connect tis device by using mini to rca to the dac??
yuheng
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 24 2008, 11:47 PM)
For those who are bothering about no SPDIF connection available from you computer, I may help you guys getting USB to SPDIF signal converter like below, so it works like getting signal from your USB port and through that device, after that the signal will be convert into SPDIF signal and send to the ZERO dac. TATTa ~~~ There your ZERO dac would start singing! And this useful little device would only cost you guys RM20.
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if u can manage to get this device, pls collecte order at bulk, if im not mistaken, i can point out at least 3 person who are looking for this tongue.gif
SYAMiLLiON
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 24 2008, 11:47 PM)
For those who are bothering about no SPDIF connection available from you computer, I may help you guys getting USB to SPDIF signal converter like below, so it works like getting signal from your USB port and through that device, after that the signal will be convert into SPDIF signal and send to the ZERO dac. TATTa ~~~ There your ZERO dac would start singing! And this useful little device would only cost you guys RM20.
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ya...i'm also interested with this item drool.gif
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(TeOtq @ Jan 25 2008, 07:54 AM)
is it connect tis device by using mini to rca to the dac??
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Nope, it connects your USB cable to this device and then convert the USB signal into SPDIF. So this is for those got DAC which accepts SPDIF digital input but unfortunately the computer got no SPDIF output.

QUOTE(yuheng @ Jan 25 2008, 08:22 AM)
if u can manage to get this device, pls collecte order at bulk, if im not mistaken, i can point out at least 3 person who are looking for this tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SYAMiLLiON @ Jan 25 2008, 08:58 AM)
ya...i'm also interested with this item drool.gif
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LOL I guess i gotta do one time FREE community service to help you guys get this but of course with the condition: I'm able to complete the ZERO dac bulk! So you guys please hurry up to grab your ZERO dac! cool2.gif
SYAMiLLiON
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 25 2008, 10:10 AM)
Nope, it connects your USB cable to this device and then convert the USB signal into SPDIF. So this is for those got DAC which accepts SPDIF digital input but unfortunately the computer got no SPDIF output.
LOL I guess i gotta do one time FREE community service to help you guys get this but of course with the condition: I'm able to complete the ZERO dac bulk! So you guys please hurry up to grab your ZERO dac!  cool2.gif
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maybe u can complete the bulk faster by giving me FREE zero dac...just kidding lol icon_rolleyes.gif
walabies
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 25 2008, 10:10 AM)
Nope, it connects your USB cable to this device and then convert the USB signal into SPDIF. So this is for those got DAC which accepts SPDIF digital input but unfortunately the computer got no SPDIF output.
LOL I guess i gotta do one time FREE community service to help you guys get this but of course with the condition: I'm able to complete the ZERO dac bulk! So you guys please hurry up to grab your ZERO dac!  cool2.gif
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Wow, that's cheap. RM20. Let us know where you get them. rclxms.gif
kenjimaa
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 24 2008, 11:47 PM)
For those who are bothering about no SPDIF connection available from you computer, I may help you guys getting USB to SPDIF signal converter like below, so it works like getting signal from your USB port and through that device, after that the signal will be convert into SPDIF signal and send to the ZERO dac. TATTa ~~~ There your ZERO dac would start singing! And this useful little device would only cost you guys RM20.
user posted image
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interested, pls reserve 1x unit for me, got more detail spec about this item?
mikelanding
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 25 2008, 10:10 AM)
Nope, it connects your USB cable to this device and then convert the USB signal into SPDIF. So this is for those got DAC which accepts SPDIF digital input but unfortunately the computer got no SPDIF output.
LOL I guess i gotta do one time FREE community service to help you guys get this but of course with the condition: I'm able to complete the ZERO dac bulk! So you guys please hurry up to grab your ZERO dac!  cool2.gif
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oh..forgot to ask. wat is the spdif output? optical only? or coax only or optical ony or both?
But anyway, put me 2 units..tongue.gif
scy320
QUOTE(kenjimaa @ Jan 25 2008, 02:49 PM)
interested, pls reserve 1x unit for me,  got more detail spec about this item?
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yeah,any review on this device?
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(mikelanding @ Jan 25 2008, 04:22 PM)
oh..forgot to ask. wat is the spdif output? optical only? or coax only or optical ony or both?
But anyway, put me 2 units..tongue.gif
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Optical only smile.gif
QUOTE(scy320 @ Jan 25 2008, 09:16 PM)
yeah,any review on this device?
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Emm .... so far none, just treat it as somekind of converter smile.gif For those who are interested with the converter please leave your name and quantity here, once the bulk is ready to kick start, I would start PM you guys smile.gif

mADmAN
been listening to my Fubar + Cute amp the past few days.....

switched back to the ZERO....damn the mids really came out man.... drool.gif
kenjimaa
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 25 2008, 10:49 PM)
Optical only smile.gif


got other model hav coaxial out one?
is the converter need external power source?
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 25 2008, 10:51 PM)
been listening to my Fubar + Cute amp the past few days.....

switched back to the ZERO....damn the mids really came out man.... drool.gif
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How about the highs? lows? soundstage? tongue.gif

QUOTE(kenjimaa @ Jan 25 2008, 11:21 PM)
got other model hav coaxial out one?
is the converter need external power source?
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SOrry, i only got this model.

BTW, guys! Now I got 4 confirm orders, one more spot left to kick start the bulk!!! Anyone wanna join us?
Kyl3
need a better source now but the size of this thing is drawing me back sad.gif
should i go for it?
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Jan 26 2008, 05:10 PM)
need a better source now but the size of this thing is drawing me back sad.gif
should i go for it?
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Hi there, personally i don't think that the size is kinda big, 240mm(length)220mm(width)55mm(height), it's roughly the size of A4 paper, heck the A4 paper when place horizontal, the paper's width is even greater the DAC width.

One thing for sure, the sound quality certainly hard to beat at this price, mADman has been giving rave review about this unit! and one thing good is, if you wanna put your name into the list, we could straight kick start the bulk! Waiting is kinda killing for audiophile, I know, know it very much cool2.gif
jakesean
if only i had the budget... cry.gif cry.gif
mADmAN
QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Jan 26 2008, 05:10 PM)
need a better source now but the size of this thing is drawing me back sad.gif
should i go for it?
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width = 8 3/4 inches
length = 9 1/2 inches
height = 3 inches

weight = dun have weighing scale la tongue.gif

i currently place mine on top of my office's pc chapalang case. the ZERO's feet nicely fits the width of the case.
dark_evilz
is it true that its lack of bass?
mADmAN
not really la....the difference in bass between my Fubar II + Cute Battery II amp vs Zero is VERY minimal.

i noticed it coz i listen to metal...which isnt easy to get the bass kick in the first place.

other type of songs u probably wont notice it.
Kyl3
pulled the trigger and wait for this baby to come biggrin.gif
ccschua
I just found out my dvd player has got both optical digital and analog out. so should be able to support the DAC, but I am not sure if the DAC will match to my tube amp soundstage 1.5 se?

If you read the head-fi thread, you will keep finding good review about zero DAC, catching up with the iBasso head amp.
teNtiOn
Just browsed through the thread in headfi (only around half of the 1xx pages) about this zero and it seems like there's only the same few person giving opinion on how good it is in all the pages and the comparison that made also limited to the few thing the few person owned. Anyway looks forward for more reviews from the buyers here.
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(ccschua @ Jan 26 2008, 09:13 PM)
I just found out my dvd player has got both optical digital and analog out. so should be able to support the DAC, but I am not sure if the DAC will match to my tube amp soundstage 1.5 se?

If you read the head-fi thread, you will keep finding good review about zero DAC, catching up with the iBasso head amp.
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hi there, if you found those two white and red socket behind your tube amp, that's means it's 100% suitable. Those two we call them as RCA smile.gif

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QUOTE(teNtiOn @ Jan 26 2008, 11:17 PM)
Just browsed through the thread in headfi (only around half of the 1xx pages) about this zero and it seems like there's only the same few person giving opinion on how good it is in all the pages and the comparison that made also limited to the few thing the few person owned. Anyway looks forward for more reviews from the buyers here.
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Hi there, I have seen headfier comparing this to Yulong's DAH1 which cost 3x than this DAC, althought the DAH1 is better but the ZERO's cost/performance ratio is certainly better smile.gif Anyway, guys here got Yulong DAH1, iBasso and Musiland MD10, perhaps we should do a real head-to-head review soon tongue.gif
singleguy
Fuuuyyooooo.. Madman ,, power now huh!!
GodLuvSxS
So mADmAn, any improvement over quite some period of burn-in? Or your unit is already at Empy's operational table? tongue.gif
empire23
Another 15 days i poadah. Faster send to me lol. Just got a shipment of parts to build a discreet output stage. First come first serve babeh rclxms.gif
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(empire23 @ Jan 28 2008, 11:39 PM)
Another 15 days i poadah. Faster send to me lol. Just got a shipment of parts to build a discreet output stage. First come first serve babeh rclxms.gif
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I guess mAD dude gotta act really hurry, is it cost a hand to integrate the discreet output stage? tongue.gif
Oxburg
Hello can i know this DAC can compete Prodigy HD2?
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(Oxburg @ Jan 30 2008, 01:34 AM)
Hello can i know this DAC can compete Prodigy HD2?
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Emm ... regarding this question, we gotta wait for mADmAN and guys to do a possible small gathering to do some head-to-head DAC review, ZERO vs iBasso vs Yulong DAH1 vs Prodigy HD2 vs Musiland MD10! Like Walabies said: "DAC war!"
dark_evilz
wahhh.. can compete with DAH1 and ibasso???
the price is half as much.... drool.gif

in term of price-to-perfomance and value-for-money, i would say that zero DAC is one of the best... thumbup.gif
kwekeugene
QUOTE(dark_evilz @ Jan 30 2008, 02:42 PM)
wahhh.. can compete with DAH1 and ibasso???
the price is half as much....  drool.gif

in term of price-to-perfomance and value-for-money, i would say that zero DAC is one of the best...  thumbup.gif
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You own the Zero too smile.gif ? Can input some reviews.. ?
walabies
QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Jan 30 2008, 03:11 PM)
You own the Zero too smile.gif ? Can input some reviews.. ?
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Err... why not... shoot them...
dark_evilz
no...juz place my order in GodLuvSxS bulk, but never use it b4...
juz heard a good review from headfi forumer...
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