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GodLuvSxS

Apr 7 2008, 10:32 PM

QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Apr 7 2008, 06:13 PM)

I guess yours will be super revealing. Haha

You'll have a tough time looking for music which will sound perfect

LOL if plug in LT1469 maybe would be more revealing than OPA627

QUOTE(ccschua @ Apr 7 2008, 06:21 PM)

Well they are Ibasso, Yulong, Zhaolu (new version) and other DAC to compare with but it boils down to costs and the flexibility of rolling. With other DAC, any mistake in the swapping and soldering will fry the chip. Zero is just plug and play and good play ground before one matures.

how I do the burn in, feed the ZERO with thousands of mp3 with the headphone connected .. is there other way?

I guess just keep playing music would be enough ... preferable those music with high dynamic

Kyl3

Apr 7 2008, 10:54 PM

Got mine yesterday at last. Sorry for the waiting again steve.

A question, sometimes when I change song, the first few seconds of the song like went crazy, like crackling sound, after that the song is fine.

GodLuvSxS

Apr 7 2008, 10:58 PM

QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Apr 7 2008, 10:54 PM)

Emm ... did you changed the opamp? May I know what type of song you were playing when switching songs? Let it play for few days first, see the thing still there or not

Kyl3

Apr 7 2008, 10:59 PM

Still on the stock opamp, was playing normal mp3s, it happens once in a while only.

Andiboi

Apr 7 2008, 11:49 PM

i faced this problem too.. i assumed that transferring signal from pc to dac isn't smooth or fast. i don know how tosay in the right way, but only agak agak say one..
cause when you open the DAC case, u can see the optical light. once it transferring the signal from pc(when i press Play in window media player), it light up(red light at the optical part there).. when it light up, the few sec(mostly half to 1 second) something like warming up(crack sound or weird sound or scary sound) then it start singing after that.

hmmm correct me if i'm wrong.

Kyl3

Apr 7 2008, 11:59 PM

Yeap, should be the transfer speed problem I guess as when I can't make the windows error sound out anymore if there's no other audio source.

Luckily it only happens once in a while

Najmods

Apr 8 2008, 03:15 AM

GodLuvSxS, I would like to buy one LT1364 please

mADmAN

Apr 8 2008, 09:51 AM

odd..... ive never had any of that problems with my ZERO.... optical or coaxial no problems at all man....both using onboard SPDIF and Maya44 SPDIF

u guys using the USB to optical converter?

ccschua

Apr 8 2008, 09:58 AM

Steve,

1xLT1057,
1set of 2xAD797 on browndog and DY2000 (metal)
1xLT1364.

can u help on this.

GodLuvSxS

Apr 8 2008, 10:02 AM

QUOTE(Andiboi @ Apr 7 2008, 11:49 PM)

QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Apr 7 2008, 11:59 PM)

Yeap, should be the transfer speed problem I guess as when I can't make the windows error sound out anymore if there's no other audio source.

Luckily it only happens once in a while

QUOTE(mADmAN @ Apr 8 2008, 09:51 AM)

odd..... ive never had any of that problems with my ZERO.... optical or coaxial no problems at all man....both using onboard SPDIF and Maya44 SPDIF

u guys using the USB to optical converter?

I guess should be the problem of USB converter, USB tend to in jam mode while computer in heavy usage, I think the less smooth operating contribute to the sudden spike while switching song:(

Added on April 8, 2008, 10:06 am

QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 8 2008, 03:15 AM)

GodLuvSxS, I would like to buy one LT1364 please

QUOTE(ccschua @ Apr 8 2008, 09:58 AM)

Steve,

1xLT1057,
1set of 2xAD797 on browndog and DY2000 (metal)
1xLT1364.

can u help on this.

Noted:

LT1364
=====
1. Andiboi
2. Andiboi
3. utellme
4. Najimods
5. ccschua

LT1361
=====
1. Andiboi
2. Andiboi
3. utellme
4.
5.

LT1469
=====
1. Andiboi
2. Andiboi
3.
4.
5.

LT1057
=====
1. ccschua
2.
3.
4.
5.

ccschua: I think right now atm I could only try to help you get LT opamp first, the AD one i gotta source somewhere else

9 more units to complete the target 20 units bulk, anyone else?

mADmAN

Apr 8 2008, 10:13 AM

those who are using PCs... check ur motherboard specs.. see if it has any SPDIF header or not. especially at the I/O ports at the back...if got...use that instead....

if dont have...check ur mobo manual. look for SPDIF pins on the motherboard itself. if got then use the SPDIF PCI bracket like the one i used....u can probably get this at sri computers or something...heck...check ur mobo package.. might even have it.

user posted image

this is what i used before i used the Maya44. works like a charm... no issues whatsoever and even had more volume than my Maya44. also easier to setup.

Kyl3

Apr 8 2008, 11:02 AM

I am looking for that actually, where you bought it? Sri comp?
How much is that ya?

mADmAN

Apr 8 2008, 11:03 AM

i didnt buy it.....

it came with my Biostar mobo.... so i just used it on my office MSI mobo... can use...

only thing is the wiring abit terbalik. so had to switch the thing around then kowtim.

Najmods

Apr 8 2008, 08:50 PM

QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 8 2008, 03:15 AM)

GodLuvSxS, I would like to buy one LT1364 please

I changed my mind, make it two LT1364

GodLuvSxS

Apr 8 2008, 09:11 PM

QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 8 2008, 08:50 PM)

I changed my mind, make it two LT1364

Noted:

LT1364
=====
1. Andiboi x 2
2. utellme
3. Najimods x 2
4. ccschua
5.

LT1361
=====
1. Andiboi x 2
2. utellme
3.
4.
5.

LT1469
=====
1. Andiboi x 2
2.
3.
4.
5.

LT1057
=====
1. ccschua
2.
3.
4.
5.

Currently 12 units, bro mADmAN dont wanna try some? bro Kyl3, you would be bored with the stock opamp and LME49720 soon, try LT1364 and LT1469 la

ccschua

Apr 8 2008, 10:37 PM

While I still prefer to have OPA627 in the DAC, I find the cello and bass guitars is missing. The sound of bass strumming seems rather weak. Perhaps I have tubeamp thats why I want to try the tube like LT1364, knowing that it will fry my fingers.

I would still love the rich vocals and the guitar/cello bass

Kyl3

Apr 8 2008, 11:08 PM

Let me play with it longer 1st

Left my 627 at KL, have to go back and take, probably will take 2 units of LT1364 as well

mADmAN

Apr 9 2008, 11:11 AM

naah...me think me have to skip the offer for LT opamps this time around...

gotta concentrate all my fund to my car now which i just sent to the workshop for a makeover

anyway...ive tried pairing my ZERO (DAC-OPA627) + Battery Cute II (OPA2107) and i like how it sounds... better me thinks than the ZERO's own amp.

but having problems with my battery amp now... after about 20 minutes the sounds just fades away and turns into distortion

need to figure that one out... once thats done im gonna try the 627 in the battery amp.

Kyl3

Apr 9 2008, 03:54 PM

Would like to know can the zero dac sustain long hour usage? 12 hours or more

mADmAN

Apr 9 2008, 04:31 PM

confirm can...thats what ive been doing almost everyday since i got my unit...

dark_evilz

Apr 9 2008, 04:56 PM

bro godluv, did i miss the opamp bulk?? i need a pair of LT1364 for the amp section... do add me on the list "LT1364" x 2 if the bulk is still on.. tq..

GodLuvSxS

Apr 9 2008, 07:07 PM

QUOTE(dark_evilz @ Apr 9 2008, 04:56 PM)

bro godluv, did i miss the opamp bulk?? i need a pair of LT1364 for the amp section... do add me on the list "LT1364" x 2 if the bulk is still on.. tq..

Noted:

LT1364
=====
1. Andiboi x 2
2. utellme
3. Najimods x 2
4. ccschua
5. dark_evilz x 2

LT1361
=====
1. Andiboi x 2
2. utellme
3.
4.
5.

LT1469
=====
1. Andiboi x 2
2.
3.
4.
5.

LT1057
=====
1. ccschua
2.
3.
4.
5.

6 more units to go ... come on!

GodLuvSxS

Apr 10 2008, 10:48 PM

QUOTE(dark_evilz @ Apr 9 2008, 04:56 PM)

bro godluv, did i miss the opamp bulk?? i need a pair of LT1364 for the amp section... do add me on the list "LT1364" x 2 if the bulk is still on.. tq..

How's your ZERO so far? Been lost of your progress so far, any improvement after some burn in? I think it's time for you change to MS2i

GodLuvSxS

Apr 11 2008, 10:19 PM

LT1364
=====
1. utellme
2. Najimods x 2
3. ccschua
4. dark_evilz x 2
5.

LT1361
=====
1. utellme
2.
3.
4.
5.

LT1469
=====
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

LT1057
=====
1. ccschua
2.
3.
4.
5.

Bro Andiboi retreat from bulk order, somemore he's selling his ZERO off to fund another upgrade

Andiboi

Apr 11 2008, 10:40 PM

other than that, i found out that my hometown isn't in kl and i back to my hometown frequently. I wonder how i bring such bulky thing around each time i travel back sabah or kl?

Overall is good by performance/price ratio. The dac section performs quite good, only the headamp section(the opamps from headamp definitely need to be changes) drawback.

I try dac section rca out to my visely hea-1, the sound quality improve a lot and got "the Feel back from music".

Kyl3

Apr 12 2008, 05:23 PM

Lai lai, put me in for 2 units of LT1364.

GodLuvSxS

Apr 12 2008, 05:27 PM

QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Apr 12 2008, 05:23 PM)

Lai lai, put me in for 2 units of LT1364.

Noted:

LT1364
=====
1. utellme
2. Najimods x 2
3. ccschua
4. dark_evilz x 2
5. Kyl3 x 2

LT1361
=====
1. utellme
2.
3.
4.
5.

LT1469
=====
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

LT1057
=====
1. ccschua
2.
3.
4.
5.

abel

Apr 12 2008, 09:33 PM

anyone try it on hifi

currently

Marantz CD > tube > amp

now plan for a DAC

GodLuvSxS

Apr 12 2008, 09:46 PM

QUOTE(abel @ Apr 12 2008, 09:33 PM)

anyone try it on hifi

currently

Marantz CD > tube > amp

now plan for a DAC

Hi bro abel, below is bro ccschua's review of ZERO dac pairing with hifi setup,

QUOTE

Finally COD with Godluvsxs at KL Sentral. nice seller with a lot of freebies.

My setup

Sony DVD player NS76H -> Zero -> Soundstage 1.5 -> KEF Cresta 10

1st hour burn in, very shiok. test with Janis Ian, breaking silence and Guess u had to be there.. now can hear the bass and mid better. Improve soundstge. Bass is punchy, but is a bit stretch causing boominess at certain frequency.

next fourplay chant (pa pa pa ra pa pa ra papapapapa),andy Mckee art of motion, and NAIM test CD

Now the bass and instrument and high are begining to shine. as if the hidden instrument begin to uncover itself.

next come the women voices III, jennifer wernes, rebecca pidgeon, alison krauss. The vocal is more true, the speaker is disappearing more and more (but still there)

wait for next 24 hours.

really worth the investment and wait

Hope it answered your question

Najmods

Apr 13 2008, 02:32 PM

GodLuvSxS, sorry but I have to bail out from the opamp bulk, I need the money on something else

jerren

Apr 14 2008, 10:08 PM

a bit O/T here, can this opamp replace the opamp of the Audiotrak prodigy 7.1 Hifi??

Najmods

Apr 14 2008, 10:44 PM

QUOTE(jerren @ Apr 14 2008, 10:08 PM)

a bit O/T here, can this opamp replace the opamp of the Audiotrak prodigy 7.1 Hifi??

Yes of course, as long as its dual opamp it will sing

jerren

Apr 14 2008, 10:51 PM

how's the result will be then? any idea??

Najmods

Apr 14 2008, 10:58 PM

QUOTE(jerren @ Apr 14 2008, 10:51 PM)

how's the result will be then? any idea??

Different setup will makes different sound, I can't comment about that. You buy it and test it for yourself. Some people review is quite accurate, but as I said earlier it may sound different. Its just a matter of you like it or not

abel

Apr 15 2008, 12:26 AM

this Zero very tempting

bcoz just get a speaker cable out of RM now need to wait next month

GodLuvSxS

Apr 15 2008, 12:29 AM

QUOTE(abel @ Apr 15 2008, 12:26 AM)

this Zero very tempting

bcoz just get a speaker cable out of RM now need to wait next month

Hehe

The bulk is still open

abel

Apr 15 2008, 12:29 AM

QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Apr 12 2008, 09:46 PM)

Hi bro abel, below is bro ccschua's review of ZERO dac pairing with hifi setup,
Hope it answered your question

thanks man

refer to ccshua i prefer fourplay track 7 Bali Run the parts when start got soft ting ting sound ... mine just tinnng very soft n no extension i found my ICE the tinnggggg is longger extension my car CDP have dual 20bit Burr Brown DAC

deng8895

Apr 15 2008, 01:03 AM

has anyone compare this to the zhaolu?

GodLuvSxS

Apr 15 2008, 11:15 AM

QUOTE(deng8895 @ Apr 15 2008, 01:03 AM)

has anyone compare this to the zhaolu?

Emm .... I dont think so, but I guess the performance is on par with Zhaolu since the circuit design and component used almost the same

mADmAN

Apr 15 2008, 12:18 PM

i wonder why nobody's going into the 2nd bulk yet.....

anyway.... ZERO owners!!! report in please... me wanna update the front page with a list of owners

Kyl3

Apr 15 2008, 12:25 PM

Zero user reporting in

Very satisfied with the performance of this DAC as it sounds great to my ears

GodLuvSxS

Apr 15 2008, 12:33 PM

LOL maybe those interested buyer scared of previous long period waiting

Emmm .... the opamp bulk seems like dragging for so long .... it's too bad

mADmAN

Apr 15 2008, 01:26 PM

owners list updated on post#4

those nicks i missed out please report in as i damn lazy wanna go through page by page and see who has and who doesnt...

and if any names i accidentally put in and u dont have 1 oso lemme know...

GodLuvSxS

Apr 15 2008, 04:09 PM

A notice to all interested buyer:

For those who are interested and dont really wanna feeling for waiting anymore, this is a great chance, I'm going to complete the 2nd bulk at latest Next Monday without having to meet the MOQ, so please do consider getting yourself one this time cos there would be less chance like this in the future unless I got the chance to combine shipping with other stuff again

Thanks

junkieG

Apr 15 2008, 07:00 PM

tempted....sigh!!! if only less then rm300....

GodLuvSxS

Apr 15 2008, 09:47 PM

QUOTE(junkieG @ Apr 15 2008, 07:00 PM)

tempted....sigh!!! if only less then rm300....

Anyone else interested? Hurry to grab this chance

Seem like all ZERO users busy listening to music, you guy's ZERO must kinda like getting enough of burn in, must be pretty impressive huh?

xjian1985

Apr 15 2008, 10:54 PM

can the headphone and lineout use at the same time?

thinking to get one dedicated DAC but currently i already have ibasso D1...no money ah, if have money no need to think. -.-''

do you guys think opamp upgrade is a must? roughly how much is the price for DAC + opamp upgrade?

velodyne82

Apr 15 2008, 11:45 PM

Wait for me!!!!
Lemme think...2 days time...
tempting

rioven

Apr 15 2008, 11:54 PM

opamp bulk still open???

GodLuvSxS

Apr 16 2008, 12:44 AM

QUOTE(xjian1985 @ Apr 15 2008, 10:54 PM)

Opamp upgrade is not a must but i suggest order one LT1364 from the opamp bulk order to try, i think it would gives you a brand new tonal compare to the stock OPA2604. I might consider getting half amount as deposit and clear the payment when DAC arrived

QUOTE(velodyne82 @ Apr 15 2008, 11:45 PM)

Wait for me!!!!
Lemme think...2 days time...
tempting

Sure, take your time! What I could say is it really worth the money spent

QUOTE(rioven @ Apr 15 2008, 11:54 PM)

opamp bulk still open???

Yup, the opamp bulk still open, any order?

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