Cool! Let me know how much it will be. How did you get your hands on Kimber bare cables anyway? And what gauge size are they? I'm also interested in doing a DIY on the Asylum Cable but the nearest place I know with the components is in Sim Lim Tower. I don't travel to SG so often so still waiting for an opportunity do go so can pick up the parts.

hi guys, i'm interested to get this DAC from Jaben (SGD250 )
anyone know how's it compare to Ibasso D2 Boa dac?

The best person to answer would probably be Madmen. but ZERO dac with OPA Earth will rock you.

eh??????? why me???

i cant compare between the zero and the boa..... coz ive never listened to the boa before...

actually ive never listed to any ibasso before.

Hi chua, how's your component? Is it the leg bengkok already? The unit were shipped to me with this packaging, then It was in good condition so I ship out like that with bubble wrap wrapping the whole thing. so sorry!

I think best person to answer might be stormspider cos last time he quite frequent to yuheng's house last time, dunno currently la! He can bring over ZERO with OPA earth to do head to head review with BOA testing the analog output cos ZERO's head out is no fight to BOA's

guys
any1 have 627 oamp for sale or something better?
wanted to get 1 for my zero dac
will be back in msia this sat
pls pm me for price and location
thanks

You mean no fight as headphone amp? I want to use it as dac.
If boa is better then no point to change to zero dac.

I got opa627 to sell..kindly pm me for detail.

Depends on what u want. Have u check boa can do like what ZERO do or not.

For usb connection, just grab 1 converter will do, and ZERO become full function dac.

The question here is which DAC offers you the BEST value for money. do check out, and let us know.

erm...i want a better DAC to pair with my Heed amp.
currently using boa but i'm interested to know how zero dac sounds.
i wanna know whether it is worth for me to change to zero dac.

Abel busy working on his power cables?

Talking about power cables, I came across these on Head-Fi that claims to perform on par or better than US$200 cables. Uses Furukawa cables and the construction of the plugs are impressive! They're made in Taiwan. Copper plug model is US65, silver plated one is US95. Anyone wanna do a bulk on the 65 one?

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f21/new-powe...r-cable-305109/

sukhoi get the zero dac good deal and heck of a good dac
bought it from jaben and never regret it since then
maybe u have hard time looking for converter but it be found in funan 4th floor
jaben now got the upgraded version of zero and tianlong change the volume alps to much better 1
the rca and coxial is now gold plated instead of normal

i just got my earth and sun today... just to be safe... the white wire that came out from the opamp are meant to be ground wires?

hmm...but jaben price ~sgd250.
i've googled around, it seems like zero dac sq is about the same with boa.

boa is great for dac and it is portable not to mention it use the same dac chips as pico dac
but since u pairing with heedcanamp i believe it need more sufficient power and lower floor signal
anyhow best to test which is suitable for u afterall hearing is believing

yeah, i also wanna audition it.
but how to try dac at jaben?
it's the best if i can borrow it for one day.

wait, i need another rca to rca interconnect cable for zero dac to heed.

lol uncle got a zero dac for audition jus bring yur canamp and yur favorite cd as well
he jus brought some recently and they r selling out fast
as for cable get the mit rca cable uncle selling as well his original cd player is using 1 btw thick and gold rca caps
i got a pair of them and they really rock

what source they use for the zero dac?
from his laptop?

i will bring along my boa to do a head to head comparison.

nope one of his cd players i dun know which 1 btw
jus bring yur boa and some cds as well and compare
zero is preamp so it is better u bring yur canamp if u wan to test which has a better cleaner sound and less floor signal
test by using various cans that uncle has
akg, sen, grados and sen

i thought cd players have built-in dac?
cd player>>zero dac = double dac?


yup, i will also bring the canamp.

uncle also got an very ancient cd player (btw i dun know its name ) that can bypass its dac
i sure that he can hook it up with zero jus to let u try
well be sure that u prepared for it poisoning time

Actually when you connect to the CDP or DVD's digital out, you're bypassing the internal DAC. DAC = Digital Analog Converter. Once you pass the digital signal through the DAC section, it will be Analog output hence the digital out from any player is before the DAC section.

If the stock ZERO dac's SQ is about the same with stock Boa is about the same, then prepare fork out to some money for the discrete opamp, definately worth a shot, my ZERO is getting better with it

Oh ya, those who received the USB to coaxial converter please do post your comment here, either it's sound bright or warm, I'm not kidding, converter does sound bright or warm too, i tried 2 different converter before, my former one is warm and depth, while the current on is bright, crisp and PRaT!

is 2 x 14 gauge i got some left over kimber wire now i already make 1.5m this just my prototype the cable i will put in the braided sleeve
look nicely hehehe
i wanna do in bulk who interested let me know if more ppl is more cheaper but give me some time to do

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Added on September 12, 2008, 10:55 am

wow nice plug

err guys? a little help here? or maybe a link to a installation guide for it?

thanks

u can see the ground cable u will know the direction already

Abel, if you didn't check out the link, those plugs are made using Furukawa copper and acid bathed and chemically treated to resist oxidation.

BTW, is that the China made YYW filtered cable you're using on your Zero? How much did you get that and where from?

I should have added this photo coz it shows how much larger the IeGO cable is, compared to the standard one. And the reviewer can hear quite a bit of difference when used on his DAC! http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f21/review-i...-cables-326799/

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Added on September 12, 2008, 10:07 pm
I just got mine this morning at about 11AM.

Take a close look on the board under the pins. There's a C marking to match the socket which has a small indent on 1 side. The extension cable's sockets have the same too so just align according to that. I assume the socket on the Zero would have the same but I didn't really check the last time I open it up so can't confirm that.

huh i dont get wut u means China made YYW filtered cable ?? the Kimber i get locally and i make as Power Cord now i using this Kimber for my amp temporary to let it run-in i didnt use any China cable mostly my cable are US or U.K

Some comparison quoted from Head-fi



I'd put the stock zero to be close to the Musiland MD10, which is twice the price of the zero. stock 2.5C is a tad
bit better but the Keces is more musical.


With the DAC HDAM, it is better than all three above, The OMZ 4.1 is still slightly better - more "flesh and bones" than the modded Zero. But it's 90% the level of the OMZ for one-third the price.

After the the OMZ and the modded Zero, I can't listen to the stock unit anymore. Nor the MD10 and stock 2.5c for that matter. And yes, I have used all those DACs so my comments are valid.

If these comments are valid, then we should be glad for having ZERO! The OMZ 4.1 reported to be way better than stock Benchmark DAC-1 which costs around RM3k, having 90% performance of the OMZ, we should be really glad!

found these two Sun n Earth schematic, just want to share...
how was u all review??? i havnt test yet....
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Sorry, i was looking at your attached photo and saw the YYW connector. I guess that's not your setup. BTW, how's the Kimber Abel cord doing so far? :-)

not bad is when plug to my CDP the sound more smooth n clear but dont compare to Transparent Cable heheheh

That's the most important review I have seen. u have done a great job, no wonder you are spending when in lowyat forum.

I wonder if any felllow zero users with OPA earth would like to stand forward and give yr testimony.

It's good to have u back Chua, how was your trip?

Anyway heard that MOON is going to come out within a week time! Guess what! Time to bulk again, Brothers!

Chua, any recommendation for the cap mod to be added to the OPAMP? PP (from Head-Fi) recommends PIO (Paper In Oil) Russian Military spec capacitors for best results. Any idea where we can get those here?

You also mentioned that you have snipped the 2 ceramic caps at the analog output stage. I assume this is a recommended step for better SQ?

Thanks!

wut value u want i have some of the cap mine is 0.22uf 160v Russian PIO green colour 1 just left 2 pc

if u want Evox Rifa u try to look at www.farnell.com is from malaysia their office in subang near mac food

I have Evox but it is 100uF. Anyway u can try the Abel PIO cap that would be good.

Ok guys .... MOON is here!!!!!!!!!!!! Lush and Warm, I'm for sure getting this! The current offer is buy any 2 discrete opamp free one MOON, since everyone got their SUN n EARTH, so we are concentrating on getting moon.

MOON = USD25 x 3.4(yes, ringgit is getting weaker) = RM85 each
shipping = USD30 x 3.4 = RM102 as usual settle later

let's make a deal here, we are either getting 9units, 12units, 15units ... so it would cost RM57 each ... explanation: Buy 6 units free 3 units (85x6/9=RM57)


MOQ=9 or 12 or 15

1. GodLuvSxS
2. jerren + 1 extension cable
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.

Guys ... this is da last for our "world elements" collection, MOON, EARTH n SUN!

finally, get my hands on 1 of the discrete opamp since i missed the last flight to SUN & EARTH

Moon opamp 1 unit for me please.

1. GodLuvSxS
2. jerren + 1 extension cable
3. DEz012
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.

heheh dunno got STAR or not now got moon liow

later got moonlight

Chua, Thanks! The value that Abel has is OK?

Abel, please keep both for me. I'll arrange on how to deal when Chua confirms. BTW, you mentioned that your Kimber still lose to your Transparent... was your Transparent a factory terminated unit or it was another DIY effort?

And after Star, the ultimate OPAMP will be Supernova!

my Transparent cable also DIY buy the cable only than terminate myself how interested my Kimber cable i got Belden power cable also heheheheh

sun earth moon each+cable thx

1. GodLuvSxS (MOON) RM57
2. jerren (MOON + 1 extension cable) RM67
3. DEz012 (MOON) RM57
4. DEVICLOT (sun earth moon each + 3 cables) RM210
5. FiSHjIGN (sun earth moon each + 1 cable) RM190
6.
7.
8.
9.

Chua, PP is recommending 1uF caps. Abel's is only 0.22. Would that be sufficient? What rating are you using now?

Abel, sure I'm interested but after you said that the Transparent is much better... well... how about doing the Transparent? I mean, what's the price difference anyway?

Wow, the response is kinda emm ... cool Maybe guys satisfied with EARTH? I will set a deadline till this Sunday, then I will submit the order with what I got