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abel
QUOTE(gatevalve @ Aug 25 2008, 10:57 AM)
abel, can get cardas diy speaker cable from you?
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cardas not cheap in malaysia i need to check the price first smile.gif


Added on August 25, 2008, 2:57 pm
QUOTE(Oxburg @ Aug 25 2008, 01:42 AM)
How much those cable cost?BTW the optical output is using coaxial cable?
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nope is different optical is using Toslink , digital interconnect is coaxial
gatevalve
abel,
can pm me once you get the price and also price for transparent powerlink plus power cord.

ccschua
To the techy about DIY, pls refer here.

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1576599

InF.anime
Earth better or sun?
Morning use Sun,
Use Earth at night.

Is tht rite?
RAV4
QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 24 2008, 09:03 PM)
Running 75ohm means what? higher the better ?  smile.gif
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75Ohm is for Digital signal use, as in Digital Coax. Can also be used for Video Signal, hence component cables are also 75Ohm.


Added on August 26, 2008, 12:41 pmGuys, I just noticed that my Zero DAC has a humming sound when I switch it on. I suspect it's the transformer coz I can also feel a very slight vibration from the unit. Anybody else have this issue?

GodLuv, any way to fix this humming issue?
ccschua
Guys,

just to share, more and more guys are feeling great the OPA.

----

Originally Posted by Henmyr
The people saying the Opa-Earth is good... are only modest. I find the OPA-Earth VERY good. A VERY worthwhile upgrade.

I've always felt that the Zero was a bit veiled in the detail and texture departement. The OPA-Earth offered a big improvement to detail over the whole spectrum, from bass to hights.

The increased detail, texture and air has improved low-level listening a lot.

I have found the bass just a bit boomy before, but with increased tightness and control the bass is now very good.

The air and separation have increased a lot too.

I agree with the comments about it's apparent lack of colouration. It sounds very natural and neutral. It's not neutral/bright and not neutral/dark, but instead very close to perfectly neutral.

I will eventually try the OPA-Sun also (which I have here waiting), but for the price I would have been satisfied if I only got the OPA-Earth also as it is such a big upgrade.

I just might finally be satisfied with the Zero (never say never due to upgraditus)

EDIT: I forgot to mention the increase in dynamics, both micro and macro-dynamics.


Added on August 26, 2008, 10:47 pm
QUOTE(RAV4 @ Aug 26 2008, 12:39 PM)
75Ohm is for Digital signal use, as in Digital Coax. Can also be used for Video Signal, hence component cables are also 75Ohm.


Added on August 26, 2008, 12:41 pmGuys, I just noticed that my Zero DAC has a humming sound when I switch it on. I suspect it's the transformer coz I can also feel a very slight vibration from the unit. Anybody else have this issue?

GodLuv, any way to fix this humming issue?
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Open the DAC and check internally if anything loose wiring or shorted parts.

Try to use the DAC with different power source.

u may have DC in the AC supply to the zero DAC .


also try to use test pen to check all the component casing, see if the light on test pen is on.
CooBra
^ i get the slight vibration too i got the humming once and i switched it off, after that it never happen again, i suspect the tranny, but i havent test it from another power source.
mADmAN
odd...

ive NEVER gotten the vibrations... hmm.gif
ccschua
someone has suggested some ways to fix the tranny problem. hope u are reading it too at the head-fi

Remove the top case - 6 screws.
Remove the bolt running through the centre of the transformer.
Lift transformer out of chassis.
Fit small piece of insulating foam.
Rebuild.

RAV4
ccschua, thanks for highlighting the fix. I was following the head-fi thread but didn't come across any postings on this humming issue... but 500+ pages is not easy to cover. Thanks again!
GodLuvSxS
Hi guys, sorry for inactive for few days, been outstation to somewhere remote without line coverage and internet connection at all!

RAV4: I think u may try all solutions provided by chua, if the humming is caused by the tranny, one of the solution may helps! again thanks chua for his dedication!

Anyway a piece of news for you guys, the discrete opamp will be sending out today, takes around 3days to reach Malaysia and dunno how many days to clear kastam! and the converters is currently stuck at Kastam there since quite heavy load of importing at port klang, maybe due to Merdeka Celebration! Anyway will update you guys with latest news, stay tuned!
irwan6179
erm, which one is the headphone opamp, the one near the headphone jack(which got 2) or the one further back?

thanks
SandyPiggy
QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Aug 27 2008, 04:58 PM)
erm, which one is the headphone opamp, the one near the headphone jack(which got 2) or the one further back?

thanks
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those two near headphone jack smile.gif
irwan6179
ic.. i thot got only 1 opamp. so i have to change both or the one near the headphone jack only?
ccschua
Think of it this way. The one opamp at the 3'o clock position is the DAC opamp. It amplify the signal and gives the output to the preamp (RCA) and also the headphone amp. Headphone opamp is near the jack and they are 2 of them (stock is NE 5532).

If u change DAC opamp, it will affect the sound at both the RCA and headphone amp. If u change the headphone opamp, it will only affect headphone sound (not affect RCA).

So far, some has said the OPA Earth / Sun at the headphone has produced good results.
yehlai
so just need to change the DAC op-amp .
kwekeugene
If you use the preamp mode, wouldn't the headphone opamp also affect the sound?
abel
QUOTE(Oxburg @ Aug 25 2008, 01:42 AM)
How much those cable cost?BTW the optical output is using coaxial cable?
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depends wut brand n quality ..... if MIT is abt RM 120 , black rhodium factory termination is RM 200 + , cardas abt RM 450 factory termination
if canare abt RM 60 - 70 depends on the plug
yehlai
Anyone here have good condition Zero wanna let go? I might need to grab one for myself since im now selling mine with OPA 627 together.
P.M me smile.gif
DEz012
There's some humming sound come out from my zero dac when switch on only, the sound were not very loud only if i put my ear near the amp. Is that ok?
RAV4
QUOTE(DEz012 @ Aug 28 2008, 05:27 PM)
There's some humming sound come out from my zero dac when switch on only, the sound were not very loud only if i put my ear near the amp. Is that ok?
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Same problem with mine. It should work fine but any humming would affect the sound quality, IMO. I'll open it up over weekend to see if can fix it as per ccschua's suggestions.
DEz012
QUOTE(RAV4 @ Aug 28 2008, 05:39 PM)
Same problem with mine. It should work fine but any humming would affect the sound quality, IMO. I'll open it up over weekend to see if can fix it as per ccschua's suggestions.
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I'm not sure affect sq but will try the suggestion.
yehlai
QUOTE(abel @ Jun 25 2008, 09:23 AM)
ccschua get the dy2000 from internet i also ask him to get one for me also but no time to meet him yet tongue.gif

for soo many day i tested on Zero with different opamp currently i try on opa2107 .... wut i found the sound slightly dry n digital (fake) will all op when running using toslink .... than yesterday just bought MIT coaxial ... but not fully run it yet still dunno wut the result yet i compare back last 2 week when i listen to CD-63 KI the vocal are thick more sweet sounding .... when the CD-63 connect to DAC is totally different seem the sound more dynamic n more resolution vocal is slightly thin ...

the different is CD-63 KI is running on 16bit and Zero is 24bit

actually depends on ur taste ... if u like those new age or fast music Zero is more suitable ...

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Suprise or not abel, your old post smile.gif
I also feel Zero + 627 is dry sad.gif (i burn in <8 hrs) sound is too clean for me. Slightly fake, maybe its too digital feel. (more clean & digital makes it feel more dynamic??) Maybe need further burn-n. Only good thing is soundstage wider and better resolution smile.gif
Not suitable for my classical music. Maybe i feel that clean = not musical, less involving.
Hope HDAM-EARTH is more musical.
ccschua
Well I have 1 OPA Sun if u want can borrow and test. That will give you better dynamics, more forward vocal and clean.

Trust me, ZERO with OPA will give you a run of your money.
InF.anime
Anyone have used Zero Dac to let go? I need one here.
Please P.M me. Thanks!
yehlai
QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 28 2008, 08:15 PM)
Well I have 1 OPA Sun if u want can borrow and test. That will give you better dynamics, more forward vocal and clean.

Trust me, ZERO with OPA will give you a run of your money.
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Thanks bro, let me try to burn in and see how it perform.
SKY 1809
QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 28 2008, 08:15 PM)
Well I have 1 OPA Sun if u want can borrow and test. That will give you better dynamics, more forward vocal and clean.

Trust me, ZERO with OPA will give you a run of your money.
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One thing good and outstanding about this thread is , people like ccschua is unselfishly sharing his knowledge with us.

And also willing to share his hardwares too.

I believe Abel has invested quite a lot to come out with "Zero Dac Version 2."

Keep up with the good works.

May we all say cheers to them all.
yehlai
Yes, bro Chua is nice.
Last time he also told can borrow his DY2000.

I feel this DAC easily get warm, play at noon without aircond can become a bit hot.
CooBra
guys, about the humming issue, can we get another tranny and swap it? might be able to get my hands on some fine toroidal ones.
abel
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 28 2008, 09:34 PM)
One thing good and outstanding about this thread is , people like ccschua is  unselfishly sharing his knowledge with us.

And also willing to share his hardwares too.

I believe Abel has invested quite a lot to come out with "Zero Dac Version 2."

Keep up with the good works.

May we all say cheers to them all.
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ermm not a easy job to mod the Zero still studying n dunno start from where. plan to get EARTH or SUN for my CD-Player but still under warranty soo du want to risk it tongue.gif


Added on August 29, 2008, 11:43 am
QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 28 2008, 07:38 PM)
Suprise or not abel, your old post smile.gif
I also feel Zero + 627 is dry sad.gif (i burn in <8 hrs) sound is too clean for me. Slightly fake, maybe its too digital feel. (more clean & digital makes it feel more dynamic??) Maybe need further burn-n. Only good thing is soundstage wider and better resolution smile.gif
Not suitable for my classical music. Maybe i feel that clean = not musical, less involving.
Hope HDAM-EARTH is more musical.
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ermm opa627 character wut u say almost same as mine smile.gif ermm dry i listen that time not very dry different setup come out different sound the 627 is sound clean n abit digital but the bass are good fast n punch i duno y i try few Bur Brown also like that dry sounding only the opa2604 abit better but too laid back music is not alive
yehlai
This cable you are using now?
you go poison anyone yet?
http://www.futureshop.co.uk/chord-cobra-3-...-1m-p-1055.html
abel
QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 29 2008, 01:05 PM)
This cable you are using now?
you go poison anyone yet?
http://www.futureshop.co.uk/chord-cobra-3-...-1m-p-1055.html
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yeah .... is very nice last time i bought abt RM 300 ++

now i testing this monster amp is produce 150w at 8ohm and the weight is 28kg sad.gif damm heavy
i use digital Coaxial to go in to this amp internal come with Burr Brown 192kbps/24bit DAC PCM1796
actually this is AV amp but can set to hifi and only run 2 channel

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SKY 1809
QUOTE(abel @ Aug 29 2008, 11:38 AM)
ermm not a easy job to mod the Zero still studying n dunno start from where. plan to get EARTH or SUN for my CD-Player but still under warranty soo du want to risk it tongue.gif


Added on August 29, 2008, 11:43 am

ermm opa627 character wut u say almost same as mine smile.gif ermm dry i listen that time not very dry different setup come out different sound the 627 is sound clean n abit digital but the bass are good fast n punch i duno y i try few Bur Brown also like that dry sounding only the opa2604 abit better but too laid back music is not alive
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Can mod earth directly to cd player, Abel ?

Mind to share more ?

Your AV amp is powerful, can rock floor stand speakers !

I also got one 150watts per channel power amp made by China ( Assembled for Malaysia company ), about 15kg.

Not bad, it costs me about rm 500 as secondhand. Can drive very big speakers, best suited for AV, but I use for 2 channels HIFI in the hall, driving 4 speakers at a time.
abel
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 30 2008, 09:01 PM)
Can mod earth directly to cd player, Abel  ? 

Mind to share more ?

Your AV amp is powerful, can rock floor stand speakers !

I also got one 150watts per channel power amp made by China ( Assembled for Malaysia company ), about 15kg.

Not bad, it costs me about rm 500 as secondhand.  Can drive very big speakers, best suited for AV, but I use for 2 channels  HIFI in the hall, driving 4 speakers at a time.
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the earth n sun actually can put for ur CD player before that check ur CD player running wut opamp if ur opamp got inside the list than no problem just direct plug in but need some soldering ....

This the opamp that can support for EARTH or SUN
Dual OPA:It can replace AD712, AD827, C4570, JRC4580, JRC5532, JRC5532D, JRC5534, LF353, LF358,LM833N, NE5532, NEC4520, NEC4570, NJM2068D, NJM2114, NJM2214D, NJM4558, NJM4558D, NJM4560, NJM5532, NJM4558P, OP275, OPA2132, OPA2134, OPA2604, RC4558D, RC4558, TL052, TL072,LT1057,BA5218,EL2244,LM4562

Single OPA:It can replace LF356, LF357, NE5534, LT1122, OPA627,OPA637,OPA604, AD797,AD811, AD844,OPA603,OPA134.

my fren one i help him to buy i got some lubang to get cheap price due some reason i cant post here to sell hehehe

this is Onkyo TX-SR805 wut i listen the Marantz SR (AV) sound better for 2 channel (hifi) the onkyo i found sound quite full and neutral, detail also quite nice i just plug n play didnt use any T/A if compare to Marantz SR8002 marantz are sound better abit warm
ccschua
QUOTE(abel @ Aug 30 2008, 06:42 PM)
yeah .... is very nice last time i bought abt RM 300 ++

now i testing this monster amp is produce 150w at 8ohm and the weight is 28kg sad.gif damm heavy
i use digital Coaxial to go in to this amp internal come with Burr Brown 192kbps/24bit DAC PCM1796
actually this is AV amp but can set to hifi and only run 2 channel

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Time to get a line conditioner ? sometimes the line conditioner comes with those sockets that is universal which is very useful.

mADmAN
sheesh...after so friggin long....guess wat arrived doh.gif

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how it was packed
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the LT opamp samples i ordered...
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and my collection of opamps
i still have 1 set opa627 in my ZERO DAC section
2* OPA2107 in my ZERO headamp section
and 2 more OPA2111 in my Fubar DAC biggrin.gif
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abel
wahh madman almost half year liow


Added on August 31, 2008, 9:05 pm
QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 31 2008, 01:04 AM)
Time to get a line conditioner ? sometimes the line conditioner comes with those sockets that is universal which is very useful.
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ermm i tested use for integrated amp not soo good sound abit thin i think for ur tube amp is not bad sound will is more smoother i know one shop can get less than RM 400 same like last time i use
Kyl3
Oh crap, I just ordered sample for LT1364.
Should I wait or just buy from farnell?
skydna
halo all sifu here
i think to get an EARTH discreet op amp
any way i can get it?
will 2nd bulk comming?
ccschua
I guess u have missed the free 1 to 1 promo. But u can talk some of the forumer here who might sell u a opa earth or sun. that would be hassle free.
kwekeugene
QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Aug 31 2008, 09:41 PM)
Oh crap, I just ordered sample for LT1364.
Should I wait or just buy from farnell?
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I ordered the samples twice. The 1st time it took really long, easily 1 month plus. But the 2nd time was much faster, a week or so. Maybe you should wait for a week or two.
RAV4
QUOTE(DEz012 @ Aug 28 2008, 05:54 PM)
I'm not sure affect sq but will try the suggestion.
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Humming = frequency = noise. The fact that it's coming from the unit itself will surely affect SQ. If you understand the basics of a DAC, you will know that it operates at low voltage, which means it is highly sensitive to noise. That's why there are quite a number of DACs that are designed with an external transformer to keep the high AC current away from the low DC current part of the DAC. Some even use batteries to totally separate the AC link for totally clean current.
ccschua
Hi Rav,

so is yr humming problem still around. Suggest u grab a multimeter and start poking around.
RAV4
BTW, I've opened up my Zero to check for loose parts. All tight. I noticed that the transformer has a rubber mat at the bottom too so I doubt a foam will make any difference. I'm wondering what else I can do to isolate the humming...

ccschua, yup. Earthing is fine so no leakage. What should i be looking for with a multimeter?
ccschua

Just to share with you guys one of the mat salleh review of the HDAM.

一个外国网站对本人的HDAM评价


Texture
Positioning
Soundstage
Resolution / Detail
Dynamic/ Attack

HDMA
5
5
4
5
5

Super Op-Amp
4
4
5
4
5

AD825
3
3
3
4
4

OPA627
4
3
3
3
3

OPA2604
3
2
2
3
3

NE5532
2
1
1
2
3

jerren
anyone has LT1364 to sell?
im looking for it..

thanks
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(RAV4 @ Sep 2 2008, 12:15 AM)
BTW, I've opened up my Zero to check for loose parts. All tight. I noticed that the transformer has a rubber mat at the bottom too so I doubt a foam will make any difference. I'm wondering what else I can do to isolate the humming...

ccschua, yup. Earthing is fine so no leakage. What should i be looking for with a multimeter?
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Maybe try to plug the power cord to other socket which doesnt share with other electronic appliances, hope it helps! biggrin.gif
sep90
guys i need help
i got the zero dac recently but i coulnt get any music playing ?
it is connected to my laptop by using spdif output but it doesnt give me any audio?
i switch on the coaxial and pre amp as well but still....
Can anyone please help out?
RAV4
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Sep 2 2008, 12:23 PM)
Maybe try to plug the power cord to other socket which doesnt share with other electronic appliances, hope it helps! biggrin.gif
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Doubt it's coz of that coz it's plugged through an audio line conditioner now. Before that, it was only sharing with DVD player. I'm quite tempted to use a battery to test it out but have to check what's the DC coming out from the transformer.
ccschua
Hi,

Use the multimeter, check the tightening screw with the earth wire.

Check the cdp casing to earth.

What is your incoming voltage ? 240V
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