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GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(DIYJewelryClub @ Aug 13 2008, 07:55 PM)
So far the following bypass job worth doing (if u dont use headphone)

1. pull the wire going to headphone board
2. snip/potong the 22pF output treble killer
3. replace the DAC power with Sanyo Oscon capacitor.
4. Replace the stock RCA plug with others such as Neutrik (WBT similar, pls recommend)

Can someone tell the value of sanyo oscon to be used.
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They mentioned 100uF 25v OS-CON

Anyway, waiting for Chua's Earth and Sun impression soon since he's playing with them ATM biggrin.gif So far his initial impression for "Earth" are "natural, smooth, neutral and transparent, it's like one step better from his OPA627ed ZERO, kinda like from a Proton jump to a Honda biggrin.gif


Added on August 14, 2008, 2:39 pmHi guys .... I'm here to announce start of Sun and Earth discrete opamp bulk because the factory is offering buy 1 Sun free 1 Earth promotion before 31st this month ... you paid for 1 and you get 2!!!!

Pricing :
RM99 (USD30 x 3.3) for 1 "Sun" FREE 1 "Earth"

shipping and tax :
RM99 (USD30 x 3.3) DHL (7-10days arrival) shipping for 10 pairs. If getting taxed, fees will be divided between buyer smile.gif You guys pay me the discrete opamp's money first, once the stock arrived and settled, then only I will calculate the shipping fees smile.gif

MOQ = 10
1. GodLuvSxS
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Please fill up your name tongue.gif
RAV4
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Aug 14 2008, 11:53 AM)
They mentioned 100uF 25v OS-CON

Anyway, waiting for Chua's Earth and Sun impression soon since he's playing with them ATM biggrin.gif So far his initial impression for "Earth" are "natural, smooth, neutral and transparent, it's like one step better from his OPA627ed ZERO, kinda like from a Proton jump to a Honda biggrin.gif


Added on August 14, 2008, 2:39 pmHi guys .... I'm here to announce start of Sun and Earth discrete opamp bulk because the factory is offering buy 1 Sun free 1 Earth promotion before 31st this month ... you paid for 1 and you get 2!!!!

Pricing  :
RM99 (USD30 x 3.3) for 1 "Sun" FREE 1 "Earth"

shipping and tax :
RM99 (USD30 x 3.3) DHL (7-10days arrival) shipping for 10 pairs. If getting taxed, fees will be divided between buyer smile.gif You guys pay me the discrete opamp's money first, once the stock arrived and settled, then only I will calculate the shipping fees smile.gif
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Wah... ccschua have not even posted his review and you've started your bulk? But buy 1 free 1 is very tempting indeed. This discrete opamp is similar with the HDAM right? Meaning the cover can't be closed after installing it? Maybe ccschua can share on that?
ccschua
Hi guys sorry to keep u waiting. I have posted the review at here. It is a nice upgrade, there is everything to gain and the cost is way cheaper than OPA 627.

please check it.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/review-ze...8/index532.html

pls see thread #5316, 5326,5323

This is what my first impression about OPA Earth and what I wrote the designer Mr He KingWa.

Just receive your OPA - Earth and Sun. Very nice packing.

test rig :
tranport : DVD NS76H
ZERO DAC with OPA EArth
Amplifier : Audiospace DU2.8i, 4 nos 6V6, 1x12AX7, 2x12AU7
Speaer : AAD Silver reference 1

cables : QED Qunex 2, stock optical
Test CD : Nils Lofgren, Acoustic Live, Chinese Audiophile CD, Chinese Cai Qing, Chesky

First impression I must say very long lasting. I have found the sound that I miss. The earth sounds so natural and crisp clear. The separation is very good when I play the chinese high impact drums. The vocal is so natural and the singer sibilance (like the Sssst, Ssssh) is gone. This is what I am looking for. It is so much better than the OPA 627, way much better.



good job. next I will test OPA Sun.


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another guy who has receive the OPA SUN tested as follows : -
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第二位用户的反馈: a-nd 应省去中间的-

I've just received both the opa sun a-nd earth today.Right now I'm listening
to opa sun a-nd it sounds impressive!!The level of detail exceeds any other
opamp I've listened to.After the burn -in period I'll install opa earth as
well a-nd I'll give it a go.Anyway thank you very much for such a nice
experience!
gatevalve
QUOTE(RAV4 @ Aug 14 2008, 07:56 PM)
Wah... ccschua have not even posted his review and you've started your bulk? But buy 1 free 1 is very tempting indeed. This discrete opamp is similar with the HDAM right? Meaning the cover can't be closed after installing it? Maybe ccschua can share on that?
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chua pmed me alreadylaa.according to him this opamp better than (very different or vry keng) than 627.just go and order/buy because i used to have opamp627 and played it with marantz cd 5001, then with marantz cd 6002.with marantz cd 5001, can beat stock marantz 6002 maa.with marantz 6002 almost on par with marantz ki sig.....these results based on my ears only.sold back that zero dac with opamp627 to chua because i'm using rega apollo right now brows.gif
for starter just get any used cdp and then use zero dac with any opamp that you like..... this combination will be very good if you aare on budget.
for me zero dac with any cdp or dvd player (rm 1500 and below) will be a perfect combination. for some thing mid to high end, i believe those cdp already got good built in dac.my opinion only biggrin.gif
mADmAN
earth is better than 627 eh??

but how good is earth for metal?
ccschua
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Aug 14 2008, 07:27 PM)
earth is better than 627 eh??

but how good is earth for metal?
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for metal, may be the OPA-Sun is better. OPA-Sun is more dynamics and fast tempo response whereas earth is more neutral and natural. there is a gain on musicality vs OPA 627.

sun is like tiger, earth is like lamb.

rgds

Kiding
Just received two LT1364 OPAMPs from Farnell, replace it immediately with the two NE5532 OPAMPs, wow, now the Zero DAC sound is what I wanted, the difference is obvious then replacing the OPA627 for the OPA2604. now the vocal is thicker, can listen more detail, sound stage also wider, overall is more harmony, it is very worth to replace the two cheap NE5532.

Previously when I changed to the Zero, even changing the OPA627, the sound was still not as good as my previous DIY AD1853 DAC, now, the LT1364 make it on par with my previous DAC.

My next move will use my old DAC caps such as OS-CON, WIMA to replace the Zero DAC caps. I'm also thinking is it possible to upgrade the power CAP 2200uF to 4400uF.
ccschua
QUOTE(RAV4 @ Aug 14 2008, 06:56 PM)
Wah... ccschua have not even posted his review and you've started your bulk? But buy 1 free 1 is very tempting indeed. This discrete opamp is similar with the HDAM right? Meaning the cover can't be closed after installing it? Maybe ccschua can share on that?
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Discrete opamp is similar to HDAM. The HDAM is copyrighted by Burson, so the designer come out with new toy at a fraction of the price.
if u include the wire 100mm it is ok. pls see photo below
yehlai
QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 14 2008, 07:49 PM)
for metal, may be the OPA-Sun is better. OPA-Sun is more dynamics and fast tempo response whereas earth is more neutral and natural. there is a gain on musicality vs OPA 627.

sun is like tiger, earth is like lamb.

rgds
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The different is so extreme, if looking for something more balance then.. ? biggrin.gif
ccschua
Initial Impression of OPA Sun


Just spend some time listening to the OPA Sun. Initial impression again is wide soundstage offer by this discrete opamp.

Actuall to tell the difference between Sun and Earth is minor. It is more dynamic, slightly deeper bass and controlled mid mid bass. Soprano on treble is also polished less the Sssst. Instrument accuracy is good and imaging is accurate. On gypsy high rhtymic songs, the complex passage is handled with good resolution. Noise floor is suprisingly low, i.e. at total silence. OPA Sun detailing of instrument is impressive, yet polish at the edges of vocal.

all things good, the slight drawback on OPA Sun, I mean being honest is the tonality and vocal. It is not so empasized as compared to compared to Earth.

tks
Oxburg
Zero DAC pair with AegoM better or HD2 pair with AegoM better?
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(Oxburg @ Aug 14 2008, 10:51 PM)
Zero DAC pair with AegoM better or HD2 pair with AegoM better?
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well, I cant really comment about this but the ZERO dac now should found his ideal partner to reach another level biggrin.gif

Buy "SUN" free "EARTH" discrete opamp (MOQ = 10)
1. GodLuvSxS
2. Stormspider
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Now we got the 2nd member biggrin.gif
RAV4
GodLuv, count me in for 2 sets please!

ccschua, THANKS for sharing good stuffs and making us poorer! tongue.gif
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(RAV4 @ Aug 14 2008, 11:08 PM)
GodLuv, count me in for 2 sets please!

ccschua, THANKS for sharing good stuffs and making us poorer! tongue.gif
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wookay cool2.gif

Buy "SUN" free "EARTH" discrete opamp (MOQ = 10)
1. GodLuvSxS
2. Stormspider
3. RAV4
4. RAV4
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Now we got 4 members cool.gif
ccschua
QUOTE(RAV4 @ Aug 14 2008, 11:08 PM)
GodLuv, count me in for 2 sets please!

ccschua, THANKS for sharing good stuffs and making us poorer! tongue.gif
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Good choice. This is a good products. When I listen to Chinese Audiophile CD, some track has high treble (that cut yr ears) or harsh. With this opamp earth or sun, u can play it loud, hear the amount of detail like never before and with great accuracy and best of all not harsh. Why is it so, the key lies in the distortion level.

I was poison by the Chinese designer, he won the first prize in audio design, China. and he is young.
kwekeugene
Who wants to share? I think I'll be getting the more neutral Earth. Any takers for the Sun?

Thanks to ccshua and Godluvsxs for finding these. I thought I was done opamp rolling for a while smile.gif
yehlai
Hi GodLuvSxS, i wish to get an Earth too. Becoz my current speaker is dynamic and fast enough, more to harsh. Can me and kwekeugene get 2 units of Earth and consider as one set? smile.gif if cant then i consider to get normal set like others. Thanks!
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Aug 15 2008, 12:13 AM)
Who wants to share? I think I'll be getting the more neutral Earth. Any takers for the Sun?

Thanks to ccshua and Godluvsxs for finding these. I thought I was done opamp rolling for a while smile.gif
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 15 2008, 12:18 AM)
Hi GodLuvSxS, i wish to get an Earth too. Becoz my current speaker is dynamic and fast enough, more to harsh. Can me and kwekeugene get 2 units of Earth and consider as one set? smile.gif
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Hi there, the producer only offer buy 1 sun free 1 earth, so I think u guys have to order separate set, sorry sad.gif

Actually it's good to have a pair, more flexible for your future setup switching smile.gif
Rock_Fever
GodLuvSxS, put me in for 1 set also, thanks
thh1212
GodLuvSxS, add me in for 1 unit
ccschua
QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 15 2008, 12:18 AM)
Hi GodLuvSxS, i wish to get an Earth too. Becoz my current speaker is dynamic and fast enough, more to harsh. Can me and kwekeugene get 2 units of Earth and consider as one set? smile.gif if cant then i consider to get normal set like others. Thanks!
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Can no problem.

u can share the unit.

if u buy 1 earth, free 1 earth.

or buy 1 sun, free 1 earth.

Edited : Free 1 sun
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 15 2008, 07:20 AM)
Can no problem.

u can share the unit.

if u buy 1 earth, free 1 earth.

or buy 1 sun, free 1 sun.
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oh? is it? cos he only offer me buy 10 sun free 10 earth in email, never mind I just sent him a mail to ask about this. Thanks for the headup, chua smile.gif

anyway I add you guys into list first ...

Buy "SUN" free "EARTH" discrete opamp (MOQ = 10)
1. GodLuvSxS
2. Stormspider
3. RAV4
4. RAV4
5. thh1212
6. Rock_Fever
7. yehlai
8.
9.
10.
gatevalve
i don't know that we do have earth,sun,lamb and tiger in hifi.
btw, zero dac is really good for some one who does not want to go for high end cd player.
chua, i like to try your zero dac with my denon 1940 cd player.we can hook it up to my unison research unico amp and see how it perfor compare to rega apollo. rm 2000 source vs rm 3200 source.
DEz012
Is the Sun and earth opamp need soldering or just connect wire it inside the dac?
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(DEz012 @ Aug 15 2008, 12:56 PM)
Is the Sun and earth opamp need soldering or just connect wire it inside the dac?
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Hi there, no soldering needed, just connect the wire smile.gif

UPDATE : Ok guys, i'm here to bring great news for you guys, the producer offer us buy either buy 1 "SUN" free 1 "EARTH" or buy 1 "EARTH" free 1 "EARTH". EARTH is more for vocal while SUN is more for classical, have your choice ... those wanna get "EARTH" pair, please contact your partner then approach me biggrin.gif IMHO it's best to get "SUN" and "EARTH" pair, cos you cant predict your future setup and your future music taste, and I cant promise any more same production in the future cos the producer seems to develop a habit discontinue the model once it's been there for long smile.gif Make your wise choice.


Latest Pricing :
RM99 (USD30 x 3.3) for 1 "Sun" FREE 1 "Earth"
RM75 (USD22.5 x 3.3) for 1 "EARTH" FREE 1 "EARTH"


Anyone who want to change their order, please let me know smile.gif Thanks biggrin.gif
kwekeugene
Steve, can you put my name in for the EARTH + SUN combo. Thanks

This comes with the extension wires right? How bout the ground wire, where to connect in the ZERO?

smile.gif
SKY 1809
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Aug 15 2008, 01:34 PM)
Hi there, no soldering needed, just connect the wire smile.gif

UPDATE : Ok guys, i'm here to bring great news for you guys, the producer offer us buy either buy 1 "SUN" free 1 "EARTH" or buy 1 "EARTH" free 1 "EARTH". EARTH is more for vocal while SUN is more for classical, have your choice ... those wanna get "EARTH" pair, please contact your partner then approach me biggrin.gif IMHO it's best to get "SUN" and "EARTH" pair, cos you cant predict your future setup and your future music taste, and I cant promise any more same production in the future cos the producer seems to develop a habit discontinue the model once it's been there for long smile.gif Make your wise choice.
Latest Pricing :
RM99 (USD30 x 3.3) for 1 "Sun" FREE 1 "Earth"
RM75 (USD22.5 x 3.3) for 1 "EARTH" FREE 1 "EARTH"
Anyone who want to change their order, please let me know smile.gif Thanks biggrin.gif
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HI,

I want to order the followings:-

RM75 (USD22.5 x 3.3) for 1 "EARTH" FREE 1 "EARTH"


Can the TS do the distribution for us, bcos we are from diff location if we share ? Sun and earth problem.

Paired with Kyl3 .

PM when i need to make the payment.
Kyl3
Anyone interested to share with me?
I think I'll go for the earth.
__________________________
BTW, which LT1364 should I get for the preamp section? LT1364CN8#PBF, LT1364CS8 or LT1364CS8#PBF?
SKY 1809
QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Aug 15 2008, 05:19 PM)
Anyone interested to share with me?
I think I'll go for the earth.
__________________________
BTW, which LT1364 should I get for the preamp section? LT1364CN8#PBF, LT1364CS8 or LT1364CS8#PBF?
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ya, would to share earth with you. In that case , i can order earth 1 for 1.

By the way, where are you.

I am from Cheras.

P/S :DEAL DONE. PAIRED WITH YOU.
InF.anime
This DAC + Op-amp/sun/earth can pawn a sub RM1k or Rm2k player? unsure.gif
RAV4
QUOTE(InF.anime @ Aug 15 2008, 06:37 PM)
This DAC + Op-amp/sun/earth can pawn a sub RM1k or Rm2k player?  unsure.gif
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The Zero + OPA627 + Marantz CD5100 (rm800) is better than the Marantz 6200 which costs about rm1600. Check out gatevalve's review a few pages back.

ccschua's initial review of the OPAMP Earth is much better than OPA627 and this is before proper burn-in too so perhaps it's reaching 2k level CDP for relatively little RM.
yehlai
QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 15 2008, 07:20 AM)
Can no problem.

u can share the unit.

if u buy 1 earth, free 1 earth.

or buy 1 sun, free 1 sun.
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Thanks bro ccschua and GodLuvSxS.
Who wanna share Buy 1 "EARTH" FREE 1 "EARTH" with me? Kindly let me know.
ccschua
QUOTE(InF.anime @ Aug 15 2008, 06:37 PM)
This DAC + Op-amp/sun/earth can pawn a sub RM1k or Rm2k player?  unsure.gif
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I would not want to say ZERO DAC Pawn RM 2k. We would like to discuss ZERO DAC and its OPA sounds in this thread here. We do not want you to think ZERO is so outstanding to pawn a RM2k.

u have ur own sound taste, setup, and room condition different than anyone in here. U hold the gun and call the shots.

However, if u are interested in ZERO DAC, kindly read thru the thread here and the thread at head-fi and find it out for yourself. Dont let us influence u but we are happy to asnwer yr question.
GodLuvSxS
Buy "SUN" free "EARTH" discrete opamp (MOQ = 10)

1. GodLuvSxS "SUN n EARTH"
2. Stormspider "SUN n EARTH"
3. RAV4 "SUN n EARTH"
4. RAV4's friend "SUN n EARTH"
5. thh1212 "SUN n EARTH"
6. Rock_Fever "SUN n EARTH"
7. yehlai & ? "EARTH n EARTH"
8. leshita87 "SUN n EARTH"
9. Kyl3 & SKY 1809 "EARTH n EARTH"
10. jackal1983 & ? "? n EARTH"

Last spot ... who is the last taker? Hurry up!!!!

Yehlai : I think it's best to get yourself a set, can play around ... if u dont like it, yet u can still sell it later, cos i could see huge potential of it and many will after this once those poison mist spreading around biggrin.gif

mADmAN : Not interested for this round? "SUN" seems quite right for your music brows.gif I need one more guy to kick start leh, come help me la rolleyes.gif
ccschua
Hi steve,

let me pair with Yehlai 1 earth unless he changes his mind.

I can try 1 sun 2 earth.
jackal1983
QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 15 2008, 09:45 PM)
Hi steve,

let me pair with Yehlai 1 earth unless he changes his mind.

I can try 1 sun 2 earth.
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ops... just tot wanna pair with Yehlai smile.gif i oso wan 1 EARTH..
see la... put me in as the 10th person EARTH + another EATRH or SUN buyer or i pair vf bro yehlai tongue.gif
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(jackal1983 @ Aug 15 2008, 10:41 PM)
ops... just tot wanna pair with Yehlai smile.gif i oso wan 1 EARTH..
see la... put me in as the 10th person EARTH + another EATRH or SUN buyer or i pair vf bro yehlai  tongue.gif
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u go PM mADmAN, i think he may want the SUN biggrin.gif Faster guys, wanna submit order soon, my heart seems cant wait anymore sweat.gif
leshita87
for the discrete opamp, izzit come with da 100mm cable like those of ccschua 1... hmm.gif
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(leshita87 @ Aug 15 2008, 11:15 PM)
for the discrete opamp, izzit come with da 100mm cable like those of ccschua 1... hmm.gif
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yup smile.gif same measurement as chua one biggrin.gif
DEz012
Is the last spot still open? Getting a Earth.
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(DEz012 @ Aug 15 2008, 11:37 PM)
Is the last spot still open? Getting a Earth.
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I just PM mADmAN to see whether he wanna partner with jackal1983 or not while ccschua try to partner with yehlai to get "EARTH n EARTH" and these are not confirm, so classify no more open slot, sorry! Unless u be the 11st customer and getting yourself a pair, else i guess i'll PM u the latest update once these guys settled, ok? smile.gif
DEz012
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Aug 15 2008, 11:43 PM)
I just PM mADmAN to see whether he wanna partner with jackal1983 or not while ccschua try to partner with yehlai to get "EARTH n EARTH" and these are not confirm, so classify no more open slot, sorry! Unless u be the 11st customer and getting yourself a pair, else i guess i'll PM u the latest update once these guys settled, ok? smile.gif
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hmm.gif Ok, getting one pair 1 sun & 1 earth if no more space for getting 1 earth only.
ccschua
QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Aug 15 2008, 03:04 PM)
Steve, can you put my name in for the EARTH + SUN combo. Thanks

This comes with the extension wires right? How bout the ground wire, where to connect in the ZERO?

smile.gif
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Hi Kwek,

I just connect the earth wire to one of the headphone pcb hold down screw since the whole casing is earth/GND. with GND connection, it should sound minor different.
kwekeugene
Chua,

Thanks for the info. Has the sound matured? Still minor difference between Sun and Earth?


Steve,

I asked you to put in my order earlier, I think you missed it. Just a reminder smile.gif
ccschua
QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Aug 15 2008, 05:19 PM)
Anyone interested to share with me?
I think I'll go for the earth.
__________________________
BTW, which LT1364 should I get for the preamp section? LT1364CN8#PBF, LT1364CS8 or LT1364CS8#PBF?
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I would think the CN8 is the right one. CS8 is small outline about 4mm length. normal CN8 is about 10 mm.
GodLuvSxS
QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Aug 16 2008, 01:24 AM)
Chua,

Thanks for the info. Has the sound matured? Still minor difference between Sun and Earth?
Steve,

I asked you to put in my order earlier, I think you missed it. Just a reminder smile.gif
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wops, sorry! will add u to the list right now. anyway, chua, yehlai decided to partner with you in "EARTH n EARTH" pair biggrin.gif

1. GodLuvSxS "SUN n EARTH"
2. Stormspider "SUN n EARTH"
3. RAV4 "SUN n EARTH"
4. RAV4's friend "SUN n EARTH"
5. thh1212 "SUN n EARTH"
6. Rock_Fever "SUN n EARTH"
7. yehlai & ccschua "EARTH n EARTH"
8. leshita87 "SUN n EARTH"
9. Kyl3 & SKY 1809 "EARTH n EARTH"
10. jackal1983 & ? "? n EARTH"
11. kwekeugene "SUN n EARTH"

Those who confirmed order, you may start bank in to me: Maybank 108178781772 Leong Chun Yen, those with partner please settle internal payment first then bank in to me. Thanks biggrin.gif Oh ya, please do send me a sms @ 0125690433 once you banked in. smile.gif
mADmAN
sorry guys....GFs bday this month.....super broke now...

so cant join in
DEz012
Godluxsxs

Just add me a pair or Earth & Sun.
InF.anime
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Aug 16 2008, 12:28 PM)
sorry guys....GFs bday this month.....super broke now...

so cant join in
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Buy her a 'Sun' then, tell her 'you ae my sunshine..
mADmAN
QUOTE(InF.anime @ Aug 16 2008, 12:35 PM)
Buy her a 'Sun' then, tell her 'you ae my sunshine..
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laugh.gif

i already tell her that alot... ahahhahhaha

i think shell appreciate front row tickets to the avril lavigne more than the sun opamp moneyflies.gif
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