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siren
Who will win
GeneJin
Dun think luna's ulti work when jugger ulti cos he's imune to magic when jugger ulti.

Me noob, jus guess oni..
Flizzardo
this is very sily question sure is luna win becuz luna is range .. jugger is melee

anyway i already tested both full item and its true luna win

luna with satanic+butterfly+burtize+cuirass+blade mail+scepter

fight against

juggernaut with manta style+vladmir offering+crystalis+butterfly+boot of travel+basher
dotn3t
it depends on the player tongue.gif

FuQuO
jug will have a bit problem to farm during early game as he is melee, make sure he has enough mana to spam blade fury to farm and harrass. anyway, it all depends on your skills in farming and harrassing. if both r getting the same item, it will depend on ur timing and strategy to win. i wud say its a 50-50 situation.

However, luna will have a slight advantage in pushing during late game due to her moon glaive

as for me, i wud like to try out jugger. moon is just too boring...
delon85
Luna & Jugger in 1 VS 1 situation, Both Ulti, who will win?

no items and fully leveled, jug wins.
St.Daring
Spectre FTW...
gaiachronicler
my quess luna win 1st if n only if luna activate her ulti faster then jugger
u can have many different situation on who vs who win 1st, if jugger activate ulti 1st, jugger win

Pro vs Pro (both have no bkb n linken)
situation 1: luna sees jugger, jugger cannot afford to ulti her because of his range of ulti, luna btw is area activate, so if jugger gets near she will activate n jugger lose

situation 2: jugger hides behind tree which he will be able to ulti luna without her noticing then jugger wins, invulnurable during ulti is inevitable

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edjo84
jug can win ler don forget he can spin first then ult lar
spin already just like bkb no magic effect
Ban Guan
QUOTE(edjo84 @ Jan 16 2008, 02:25 PM)
jug can win ler don forget he can spin first then ult lar
spin already just like bkb no magic effect
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b4 ur jugg finished spin, luna already KO u jor...........
if in this situation----->>>>>

luna with satanic+butterfly+burtize+cuirass+blade mail+scepter

fight against

juggernaut with manta style+vladmir offering+crystalis+butterfly+boot of travel+basher
nickisthemost
juger do i need to explain ? too bad juger healing get hit by moon's attack sad.gif
Quick`
no conclusion to this..
lots of possible results
both sides can win
it all depends

flizzardo.
why is luna item like OMFG all raping item
where else IMO i find jugger item is rather weaker
if thats the item then its for sure luna will win

give you an example: i can say jugger get 3-4 rapier...give luna eat jugger ulti lvl3
eat every single slashes..
who could answer to that? luna to survive?

or i put another situation, luna has scepter and *manage* to hit jugger on its ulti completely
while jugger is low on hp build..
then what happen?

it all depends my friend...
its hard to tell...
only by gaming itself you can tell

luna to strike jugger when juggy had used his spin?
jugger to 1st strike when there is no creep to enable maximum hit on ulti?




tZZ
tried it at lvl 25. Both luna and jugg no items. Both ulti at the same time.

JUGG wins.
froz3nnoob
i believe if the jugger is a pro farmer he will own luna if luna is pro farm he will own jugger ^^ that all thumbup.gif
Colt_89
Cannot ask the question like this dude.

If Luna level 6 ulti and Jugger level ulti (I don't think jugger's 3 slashes can kill luna, but for sure 4x300=1200 dmg, Luna 100% win)

If both level 25, den no need to say, jugger will win, luna's full dmg still remain at 1200, but jugger's ulti is varied depends on his dmg.
nikeshock
flizzardo ur bulid for jugger is stupid.

no nid to discuss. jugger wins luna easily with treads+butter+mkb+satanic+battlefury+radiance

jugger spin is immune to luna's ulti.so do his ulti

if not happy with my statement can always find for me in flying spaghetti monster. same nick oso
aftersteps
[quote=Colt_89,Jan 16 2008, 08:15 PM]
Cannot ask the question like this dude.

If Luna level 6 ulti and Jugger level ulti (I don't think jugger's 3 slashes can kill luna, but for sure 4x300=1200 dmg, Luna 100% win)
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who so stupid when hero ms still no becareful. kekeke
choyster
i tried jug 1 threads with 5 bf late game ulti everything on sight dies
froz3nnoob
QUOTE(nikeshock @ Jan 16 2008, 09:21 PM)
flizzardo ur bulid for jugger is stupid.

no nid to discuss. jugger wins luna easily with treads+butter+mkb+satanic+battlefury+radiance

jugger spin is immune to luna's ulti.so do his ulti

if not happy with my statement can always find for me in flying spaghetti monster. same nick oso
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Yea, agree if jugger got battle fury + butterfly is dam pain when ult >_< each atk is critial 100%

QUOTE(choyster @ Jan 17 2008, 02:48 AM)
i tried jug 1 threads with 5 bf late game ulti everything on sight dies
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LOL! yea! juggernuts =.= he even ult on creep if ''got'' =.= that why they call him juggerNUTS! xD wink.gif
Ban Guan
QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Jan 16 2008, 07:35 AM)
this is very sily question sure is luna win becuz luna is range .. jugger is melee

anyway i already tested both full item and its true luna win

luna with satanic+butterfly+burtize+cuirass+blade mail+scepter

fight against

juggernaut  with manta style+vladmir offering+crystalis+butterfly+boot of travel+basher
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ur item build sure is LUNA win lor...........
if jugg item > manta change to satanic and bot change to pt
then is diff story.


JUGG buy manta ?
this will make ur jugg die faster when manta is on........
u know why ?
couse luna 3rd skill will do extra hit do jugg

eg
luna attacking 2 creep with only 1 hit
1st creep receive 100 damage
2nd creep receive 65 damage.(35% damage loss)

but luna attacking 2 hero with only 1 hit
1st hero receive 100 damage
2nd hero receive 65 damge.(35% damage loss)
1st hero receive 42 damage.(35% damage loss)
2nd hero receive 27 damage.(35% damage loss)
1st hero receive 17 damage.(35% damage loss)

tat mean luna do 1 attack , jugg will receive 2 or 3 hit damage......
St.Daring
Jugger got beard...luna no beard...
froz3nnoob
juggernuts got read tatoo while luna got a parnther xD laugh.gif
nikeshock
zzzzz.speechless
Kuraodo
luna will win early game n juggernaut will win late game...simple
froz3nnoob
can't determine that ... sometimes luna die at early game =.="
KiDkillER
its depend actually...cant say who win who lose...its depend on player's skill...if u earn money fast...then u will win...so..its depend skills..

for me...in early game...Luna will win...
in late game..depend on player skills d..see how fast he can farm...
so...this question have no answer at all !1 hahaha !!
Enjoy game's procedure can already..win or lose not important !! ^o^
-5ive-
Obviously luna's ulti wont hurt juggy coz he got 2 counters, during battle juggy can place healing ward at fog, its a confirm juggy win but luna still can dodge omnislash wit a dagger n break ward easily..
Flizzardo
QUOTE(-5ive- @ Jan 21 2008, 04:50 AM)
Obviously luna's ulti wont hurt juggy coz he got 2 counters, during battle juggy can place healing ward at fog, its a confirm juggy win but luna still can dodge omnislash wit a dagger n break ward easily..
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luna buy dagger? doh.gif

buy lothar better got dmg and attack speed
kRaZy
i tot when omnislash juggernaut is invulnerable 1 =.="
so y still wanna ask this question when both ulti who win =.="
serewen
when I see luna ofcos i will spin+run(if the condition is 1v1), later that I will ulti luna=gg.
Flizzardo
QUOTE(serewen @ Jan 25 2008, 04:11 PM)
when I see luna ofcos i will spin+run(if the condition is 1v1), later that I will ulti luna=gg.
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dat is very noob geh

i just buy bkb then bkb whack whack whack until luna die
rikimaru00
jug is vulnerable when he ult..I was once in the same situation, 1v1 with luna, both level 13. then we all ulted at the same time. n jug won..(didn't kill her straight away, but, she almost dead icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on January 25, 2008, 11:55 pmoh, what would happen if jug marry luna? What their kids gonna look like? laugh.gif


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Quick`
lol flizzardo why you doh.gif to "dagger"...IMO, dagger is more usefull for luna
why? lothar - limited movement area (when it comes to chasing or running from enemy hereos that requires u to leap from trees to opposite..lothar can do shyt)
the dmg from lothar doesnt really count much if ure playing those satanic,butter yada yada
and when theres gem...where do lothar stand? goes to npc perhaps...
sbz2000
ulti same time with no creeps around.....jugg win. jugg when ulti is immune to magic. so bb luna ulti....
keelim
luna should buy refresher and scepter...and also arcane ring. DO NOT EVER BUY DAGGER FOR LUNA. get a heart instead.

Jugger should buy manta and basher. do not spin and run from luna. Instead get a blink dagger and run...and dont buy bkb. Get dr better. slash kau kau.
DjTranceHan
luna nowaday play tank butterfly , satanic also enuf
sbz2000
satanic is not enuff but a must..... activate satanic for imba lifeleech including the bounce glaive....... woot woot
phunkydude
wat if both luna and jug ... with bkb?
sbz2000
still jugg, jugg ulti go through avatar due to physical damage.....hmm luna ulti still magical....jugger ulti still immune to magical...

result = jugger win....teehhehehe
Quick`
lol...since every1 has different feedbacks and opinions
well, i guess no point debating
as long as ure happy with your build and ure WINNING in the game its sufficient i guess
doesnt matter what build your luna and juggy is..
you may have a b c d items....dont care
as long as ure winning the game...no1 could say more
yamato
QUOTE(siren @ Jan 16 2008, 07:22 AM)
Who will win
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one of them will win.

(u asked stupid question; u get stupid answer)
greatgreedyguts
DEFINITELY Jugger.
Jugger turns invulnerable smile.gif
AiRBooM
I win...

because i can do ALT + F4 before they ulti me...
theAnthem
i think whoever gets to cast their ulti first wins..(both Luna and Juggernaut with items)
C|anToN`
Juggernaut will win , no doubt about it
do u know what is invulnerable ?
graphicp
sure the cunning blade win.......ulug guduk guduk ...uluk uluk...my warchief sound.
corallinkz
vote for lina !
Umbalakiki
yerrr noobs..why ulti? suddap and pusing pusing...kenot do anyshit also...why waste ulti when u can kill him with your 1st skill

~.~
ali2um
Jug win..
fevercrash
Luna will win..i am a loyal Luna supporter and had been using Luna for more than 200 times i guess lol..nv lose to jugger before in my experience..the only hero Luna scare is Troll.. biggrin.gif ..others all tofu..
My Luna Build: 2xbutterfly, Power thread, Satanic, Mkb, Heart or Mkb> depends..
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