Lowyat.NET > D.I.Y. Lowerping

Quazacolt

Dec 15 2007, 12:14 PM

QUOTE(mysticark @ Dec 15 2007, 11:57 AM)

Yea I cant find the place to set the IP in VM
My setting for VM:

Bridged: connected directly to physical network
VMnet0: my network card

and I cant access internet.

But when I change to use VMnet1 and set NAT on it
I can actually connect to internet.
Finished entering all the commands for iptable and socat but stuck at logging into my realm.
I have double checked my realm IP with tcpview and command and everything but still Im stuck at "logging into game server"
I read in official forum that NAT should not be used but my VM can only access internet with VMnet1 NAT.
Now I'm in dilemma. Please enlighten me

from that description it seems that your router or ur network card isnt bridging the connection to the VM properly... you need to check if ur tcp ip settings is set to automatically grab IP from router, and if ur router is assigining ip properly

=edit=
also it seems ur problem is getting complicated, i suggest posting screenshots on every step/command ur doing etc, so we can troubleshoot for you easier

deodorant

Dec 15 2007, 03:41 PM

I don't remember where I read it, but apparently you can't bridge a connection if you're on wireless (like I am). Something to do with the wireless specifications saying you can't send signals from the same wireless card using a different MAC (but you can with regular wired cards).

Quazacolt

Dec 15 2007, 06:02 PM

QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 15 2007, 03:41 PM)

I don't remember where I read it, but apparently you can't bridge a connection if you're on wireless (like I am). Something to do with the wireless specifications saying you can't send signals from the same wireless card using a different MAC (but you can with regular wired cards).

hmm that could be a cause, gotta look up on that though

Goblinsk8er

Dec 16 2007, 12:30 AM

Call me noob or what.

Do you apply Tcpackfrequency to the folder containing 192.168.1.100?
Is that what you call "machine IP"?

Does this trick works for Windows XP professional (5.1.2600)

Quazacolt

Dec 16 2007, 12:41 AM

QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Dec 16 2007, 12:30 AM)

Call me noob or what.

Do you apply Tcpackfrequency to the folder containing 192.168.1.100?
Is that what you call "machine IP"?

Does this trick works for Windows XP professional (5.1.2600)

based on some minor read up on the registry fix method, it should your machine ip.

you can also determine ur machine ip by typing ipconfig on the command prompt (start > run > cmd > enter)

or, via ur router DHCP menu

Goblinsk8er

Dec 16 2007, 12:48 AM

Hmm, the registry hack do nothing.
Im still trapped at 700ms.

Quazacolt

Dec 16 2007, 03:00 AM

QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Dec 16 2007, 12:48 AM)

Hmm, the registry hack do nothing.
Im still trapped at 700ms.

rebooted pc yet?

Goblinsk8er

Dec 16 2007, 03:16 AM

Yes.

Now i suspect its the soundcard which messes up latency.
I dunno how a soundcard affects a connection.
But it seems like everyone who using Realtek AC97 had issues with latency. (as reported in the technical forums)

Tried the -nosound command and still the same.
My youtube and other downloading stuff is perfectly smooth. Just wow.

Quazacolt

Dec 16 2007, 12:49 PM

QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Dec 16 2007, 03:16 AM)

Yes.

Now i suspect its the soundcard which messes up latency.
I dunno how a soundcard affects a connection.
But it seems like everyone who using Realtek AC97 had issues with latency. (as reported in the technical forums)

Tried the -nosound command and still the same.
My youtube and other downloading stuff is perfectly smooth. Just wow.

unless theres driver bugs, its VERY unlikely for soundcard to mess up latency

what about ur router power forwarding all the WoW ports? especially 3724? and what about firewall? for example on the linux routing method, unless ur good at making firewall exceptions, it wont work if you have firewalls turned on.

Noyze

Dec 16 2007, 03:04 PM

Well, from what my friend told me last night he said it also has to do with the router make and model. I dun know how or what the problem is cos nobody really asked him further about it last night. Will try to get hold of him to find out exactly why it works for some and not others.

Sichiri

Dec 16 2007, 04:01 PM

WARNING : before doing the following, please set system recovery point first.

to do that, go to START > accessories > system tools > system restore > create restore point

and....go!

I've had a discussion with my friend with all this DIY lowerping methods and he just pointed me this :

1.download
http://files.racs.com.au/_WOW/SetAckTick.vbs

2.run it

3.reboot PC

4. Enjoy lower wow ping

Worked for him he says, he's playing at 200-300ms ping constant.
Well I'm at work now, I'll try the script when I reach home, cheers.

Quazacolt

Dec 16 2007, 04:37 PM

QUOTE(Sichiri @ Dec 16 2007, 04:01 PM)

WARNING : before doing the following, please set system recovery point first.

to do that, go to START > accessories > system tools > system restore > create restore point

and....go!

I've had a discussion with my friend with all this DIY lowerping methods and he just pointed me this :

1.download
http://files.racs.com.au/_WOW/SetAckTick.vbs

2.run it

3.reboot PC

4. Enjoy lower wow ping

Worked for him he says, he's playing at 200-300ms ping constant.
Well I'm at work now, I'll try the script when I reach home, cheers.

/shrug

its the registry tweak compiled into a VB script.

Sichiri

Dec 16 2007, 04:43 PM

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 16 2007, 04:37 PM)

its the registry tweak compiled into a VB script.

that I noticed. The perfect solution for "DIY lowerping for dummies" don't you think? Sure as hell simpler than a Linux-rout.

Quazacolt

Dec 16 2007, 08:38 PM

QUOTE(Sichiri @ Dec 16 2007, 04:43 PM)

that I noticed. The perfect solution for "DIY lowerping for dummies" don't you think? Sure as hell simpler than a Linux-rout.

its been posted on 1st or 2nd page of this thread, AND even the original WoW forums thread. and theres reasons why not to use this over linux route or lowerping.com covered in this thread, AND original WoW forum thread.

Goblinsk8er

Dec 16 2007, 09:56 PM

I just ran tracert on "us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com"

I get request time out for everything.
I have portfoward, registry hack and im stuck with this problem.

Anyone know any solution for this?

Sichiri

Dec 16 2007, 10:17 PM

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 16 2007, 08:38 PM)

its been posted on 1st or 2nd page of this thread, AND even the original WoW forums thread. and theres reasons why not to use this over linux route or lowerping.com covered in this thread, AND original WoW forum thread.

basically telling me to read the thread again before posting anything again?

Posted on page 1 & 2 are the manual ways! The file provide a 'double-click finish' solution of the registry fix!
which was not posted yet. (the .vbs file, not the whole steps for registry fix)

And whether or not which solution is the best is all up to the users.

Configuring Linux(OR LUNIX)-rout is PITA to me who doesn't mind paying an extra Rm20 for lowerping(which still give the BEST results among all).

If the registry fix give the same result (or almost-same) then why should I use the memory-hogging VMware? Think of the lower-end coms for a moment. Not everyone has an extra 128MB RAM to allocate.

Quazacolt

Dec 17 2007, 03:50 AM

QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Dec 16 2007, 09:56 PM)

I just ran tracert on "us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com"

I get request time out for everything.
I have portfoward, registry hack and im stuck with this problem.

Anyone know any solution for this?

windows/3rd party firewalls?

Added on December 17, 2007, 4:04 am

QUOTE(Sichiri @ Dec 16 2007, 10:17 PM)

basically telling me to read the thread again before posting anything again?

Posted on page 1 & 2 are the manual ways! The file provide a 'double-click finish' solution of the registry fix!
which was not posted yet. (the .vbs file, not the whole steps for registry fix)

And whether or not which solution is the best is all up to the users.

Configuring Linux(OR LUNIX)-rout is PITA to me who doesn't mind paying an extra Rm20 for lowerping(which still give the BEST results among all).

If the registry fix give the same result (or almost-same) then why should I use the memory-hogging VMware? Think of the lower-end coms for a moment. Not everyone has an extra 128MB RAM to allocate.

my bad, page 1 of WoW forums
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...271071466&sid=1
post 17

and on LYN forums:
page 4 post #76

just mixed up between wow/lyn forums.

there you go.

and you dont need to spare your own comp for the 128 mb ram, get a pentium 2-3 shit comp, that you can prolly salvage it from someone or just buy for under or around rm50-100? or even get donations of parts.

Noyze

Dec 17 2007, 06:15 AM

I wonder why some people are here against registry tweaks? Scared of the machine? O_O lolx. Overall, still the best solution would be to ( in order of sequence)

1. move to the US (Cost is hte main factor )

2. Use Linux OS ( More Knowledge needed compared to the Evil Windows )

3. Tweak your registry (doesn't work for everyone)

4. Use a Linux Box ($$ to get a junk pc or spare up some ram on ur present pc)

5. Subscribe to 3rd party Traffic Tunnelling and risk getting banned.

'nuff said.

karwaidotnet

Dec 17 2007, 07:50 AM

QUOTE(Noyze @ Dec 17 2007, 06:15 AM)

I wonder why some people are here against registry tweaks? Scared of the machine? O_O lolx.

i bliff its bcoz by doing so, it would affect your OVERALL internet surfing or downloading performance...in theory...

but for those that doesn't download much, like me, and still doesn't feel much differences in terms of internet surfing, like me, i'm still happy wif the registry tweaks..

and btw...not everyone keep a junk in his home...
i sold off my old pc last year to those recylcer collector or something like that...
and buying another one would be just a waste of money...when we can do it for FREE

and even so in the original WoW thread...ppl are still doing the it...

QUOTE

I'm running xp sp2 and did the registry add "TcpAckFrequency" and my latency went from 400-500 down below 100; back where I was before the patch.

I never knew something so simple would work so well. I'm glad we have players out there that know what they're doing and are willing to post about solutions to problems.

Anyway, Quaz, we know ur concern, but we shall all need only to remove back the registry hack once the new patch is implemented...

Sichiri

Dec 17 2007, 09:49 AM

Registry fix gave me 300-400ms constant, down from 500-700ms

sweet.

seen

Dec 17 2007, 11:50 AM

I think this thread should be stickied and a lot of the outdated stickies should be removed.

Quazacolt

Dec 17 2007, 02:33 PM

QUOTE(Noyze @ Dec 17 2007, 06:15 AM)

I wonder why some people are here against registry tweaks? Scared of the machine? O_O lolx. Overall, still the best solution would be to ( in order of sequence)

1. move to the US (Cost is hte main factor )

2. Use Linux OS ( More Knowledge needed compared to the Evil Windows )

3. Tweak your registry (doesn't work for everyone)

4. Use a Linux Box ($$ to get a junk pc or spare up some ram on ur present pc)

5. Subscribe to 3rd party Traffic Tunnelling and risk getting banned.

'nuff said.

reasons are mentioned previously. and personally, ive handles registries on a daily basis and have been playing around with regedit since the year 1997ish on my pentium pro 200mhz windows 95 pc. (later upgraded to windows 98se), not really a tough thing to do TBH, and even if its, the internet is filled with guides and how-to's.

Added on December 17, 2007, 2:38 pm

QUOTE(karwaidotnet @ Dec 17 2007, 07:50 AM)

i bliff its bcoz by doing so, it would affect your OVERALL internet surfing or downloading performance...in theory...

but for those that doesn't download much, like me, and still doesn't feel much differences in terms of internet surfing, like me, i'm still happy wif the registry tweaks..

and btw...not everyone keep a junk in his home...
i sold off my old pc last year to those recylcer collector or something like that...
and buying another one would be just a waste of money...when we can do it for FREE

and even so in the original WoW thread...ppl are still doing the it...

Anyway, Quaz, we know ur concern, but we shall all need only to remove back the registry hack once the new patch is implemented...

if your pc can end up to some recycler collector or something, its certainly not hard to find another junk pc, provided ur going for that method anyways. what the linux VM really needs is a dual core processor, and thats what almost everyone is running on nowdays. RAM wise, people are usually running 1gb and thats good enough. unless you run on 512mb pc's then dont even say VM, your WoW would also take a toll on performance.

and no, im not really concerned about anything, just providing free and accurate information. taking it or not does not concern me. just like how you guys can remove the registry, its not hard to NOT run the VM at all (dur!) or even uninstalling it. but ill still be running it on/off after patch to see if it still makes a difference. as i have huge doubts with blizz making a perfect latency fix. afterall, it took them 3+ years for it to happen.

ray123

Dec 17 2007, 06:38 PM

I wish I have low ping to pull off what this guy is doing:

http://files.filefront.com/shs+0001wmv/;92...;/fileinfo.html

waynefly

Dec 19 2007, 10:49 AM

Just try to setup the feather linux and make the routing. But after this, I facing a problem. I can connect to login server but when going to the screen choose character, is stuck and cant connect. After few sec is prompt a screen to choose server. Is it any command I type wrong?

After I deleted the IP Route on windows cmd. Is can connect back.

Please help!

Quazacolt

Dec 19 2007, 11:49 AM

QUOTE(waynefly @ Dec 19 2007, 10:49 AM)

Just try to setup the feather linux and make the routing. But after this, I facing a problem. I can connect to login server but when going to the screen choose character, is stuck and cant connect. After few sec is prompt a screen to choose server. Is it any command I type wrong?

After I deleted the IP Route on windows cmd. Is can connect back.

Please help!

the route isnt forwarded properly, either check from windows, or your feather linux. make SURE the console is running when you are using this/playing Wow

the data packets of your server is basically stuck in between ur pc and the linux VM

waynefly

Dec 19 2007, 02:25 PM

Can work now, thanks!

THis is really work on mine, 300-400ms instead of 500-600ms

Quazacolt

Dec 19 2007, 03:06 PM

QUOTE(waynefly @ Dec 19 2007, 02:25 PM)

Can work now, thanks!

THis is really work on mine, 300-400ms instead of 500-600ms

btw, check on ur router port forwardings/firewalls too, *MAY* probably lower ur pings even more!

joeboto

Dec 20 2007, 03:10 AM

sorry for the noob questions

im using win xp, and wanted to have linux (ubuntu) with it. so, i have to dload VMware for windows or for linux?

RapTalk

Dec 20 2007, 03:56 AM

QUOTE(joeboto @ Dec 20 2007, 03:10 AM)

sorry for the noob questions

im using win xp, and wanted to have linux (ubuntu) with it. so, i have to dload VMware for windows or for linux?

for window

joeboto

Dec 20 2007, 08:21 AM

QUOTE(RapTalk @ Dec 20 2007, 03:56 AM)

for window

ty!

Tentris

Dec 26 2007, 05:55 PM

The fact that this fix WORKS means that all these years we were blaming TMnet, its not their fault that we suffer from bad pings.

Oh the irony of it all.

I'll be the first to apologize to them.

With VMware+Debian, i get 300-350ms (used to be >1k), any IP address i use, any time of day, rain or shine.

Quazacolt

Dec 26 2007, 06:00 PM

QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 26 2007, 05:55 PM)

The fact that this fix WORKS means that all these years we were blaming TMnet, its not their fault that we suffer from bad pings.

Oh the irony of it all.

I'll be the first to apologize to them.

With VMware+Debian, i get 300-350ms (used to be >1k), any IP address i use, any time of day, rain or shine.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=14829941

if anything, id go with blizz more than tmnut screamyx.

while this solves WoW, it doesnt solve my other website/downloads/torrents etc. heck im paying additional cash for VPN services just to get good torrent speeds thanks to their secretive torrent throttle. so no, tmnut screamyx continues to bear the blame.

joeboto

Dec 26 2007, 07:43 PM

the linux thingy works with direct connection (sh1tmyx modem -----> PC)?

Added on December 26, 2007, 8:46 pmomg need help a.s.a.p
how to revert back all these config to normal?

i mean the one we edit in winxp/vista command editor.
'route -p ADD wowipaddress MASK 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.30'

i cant connect to the server i wrote in above command now.
btw, im using direct connection from modem to PC.

Quazacolt

Dec 26 2007, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(joeboto @ Dec 26 2007, 07:43 PM)

the linux thingy works with direct connection (sh1tmyx modem -----> PC)?

Added on December 26, 2007, 8:46 pmomg need help a.s.a.p
how to revert back all these config to normal?

i mean the one we edit in winxp/vista command editor.
'route -p ADD wowipaddress MASK 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.30'

i cant connect to the server i wrote in above command now.
btw, im using direct connection from modem to PC.

yes it works. and if ur route is not properly done, you cant connect

you can type just route, and follow the ms dos commands to delete the previous route that you set, and re-set another route

joeboto

Dec 26 2007, 09:14 PM

ok nice, thx

hmmm it seems like my debian/vmware cant connect to internet.

Quazacolt

Dec 26 2007, 09:59 PM

QUOTE(joeboto @ Dec 26 2007, 09:14 PM)

ok nice, thx

hmmm it seems like my debian/vmware cant connect to internet.

ur dsl modem need to set it to router mode to have the connections routed (tmnut modems usually have crappy built in routers)

pure direct connection im not sure how it would work, but you'd have to change some settings in ur linux VM id assume.

wanderman

Dec 27 2007, 01:04 AM

hey guys good new... y dun u all try search the WoW official forum under the Hunter section, there's sum1 teching how to lower our ping by changing some registry in our window. i found out it's working. my ping from 400~500 drop to 300 sumthing... early in the morning like 6 7 am i get less than 200ms. try it out.

Gr3yL3gion81

Dec 27 2007, 03:27 AM

This thread should be stickied!

The registry didn't work for me, so I tried the first VM solution.

So far so good!

My ping gone from >1000 to 200-300ish.

Awesome!

BTW, new WOW player here!

joeboto

Dec 27 2007, 09:30 AM

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 26 2007, 09:59 PM)

ur dsl modem need to set it to router mode to have the connections routed (tmnut modems usually have crappy built in routers)

pure direct connection im not sure how it would work, but you'd have to change some settings in ur linux VM id assume.

hmm. ok. using router mode now. can u teach me using feather? (just downloaded feather)

Added on December 27, 2007, 9:51 amwell nvm, IT WORKS OMG!!!
feather is much more easier than debian.

Quazacolt

Dec 27 2007, 11:10 AM

QUOTE(joeboto @ Dec 27 2007, 09:30 AM)

hmm. ok. using router mode now. can u teach me using feather? (just downloaded feather)

Added on December 27, 2007, 9:51 amwell nvm, IT WORKS OMG!!!
feather is much more easier than debian.

feather included all the tools you need where else debian you need to manually download/install/configure the modules. for linux noobs such as myself, it would be a PITA XD

and good to know ur having fun with ur VM

joeboto

Dec 27 2007, 12:24 PM

another p.i.t.a thing happens...
i play 2 wow server, so its kinda lazy to type alllllll the command again. is there any script in feather to do it?

offtopic:theres a rumor saying deluge (a torrent dloader in linux) can bypass all the stupidsh throttling, is there any deluge version for feather? (theres one for ubuntu, debian, but cant find any for feather.

)

Quazacolt

Dec 27 2007, 02:37 PM

QUOTE(joeboto @ Dec 27 2007, 12:24 PM)

another p.i.t.a thing happens...
i play 2 wow server, so its kinda lazy to type alllllll the command again. is there any script in feather to do it?

offtopic:theres a rumor saying deluge (a torrent dloader in linux) can bypass all the stupidsh throttling, is there any deluge version for feather? (theres one for ubuntu, debian, but cant find any for feather.

)

as mentioned on previous post within this thread, i did a HDD install of my VM feather-linux, so i can save a text file containing all the needed commands (socat/iptables) and all i need to do is oopen up that text file, copy and paste it into the console and play WoW

still havent (or lazy/never got the time to) figure out how to make a script file in linux, so ALL i need to do is double click that damn script file and minus the cut n paste process

as for deluge, try and install it anyways. both debian and feather are linux anyways, just different pre-configurations.

shykull

Dec 28 2007, 09:25 AM

The registry tweak didn't work for me

Well actually it did, my ping is showing lower(as it shows in game) but then i dont notice any significant difference for my overall ping.

I am using quartz addon for my spellcasting. Even when my ping is around 250ms, the quartz addon still indicate that the lag time is around 800ms

for each spell cast.(this addon measures the time between the client spell cast command to the server acknowledges the command)

I think what the regedit does is keep pinging the server, and request for data.

Normally, I think the ping is measured between the first request to the recent response, because the game only pings the server once and wait for the response. In the case of the tweak, it will continuously ping the server, so the ping is measured between the last request to the recent response.

So actually the tweak is to bluff the client that the lag is shorter, and show lower ping, but ur actual ingame communication between the server remains unchanged. If not making it worst with a lot of unnecessary communication.

Just my 2 cents

. Anyway gonna try the VM reroute, and see if that works for real.

tarzan15

Dec 29 2007, 01:30 AM

im using the feather solution and somehow im stuck at choosing character screen. i reset everything n do it all over again and same thing happen. i check all the cmds and everything is ok in both feather n windows. can tell me any other possible this could happen? plz....

Quazacolt

Dec 29 2007, 12:17 PM

QUOTE(tarzan15 @ Dec 29 2007, 01:30 AM)

im using the feather solution and somehow im stuck at choosing character screen. i reset everything n do it all over again and same thing happen. i check all the cmds and everything is ok in both feather n windows. can tell me any other possible this could happen? plz....

didnt properly route the connection to ur vm, its stuck somewhere between ur vm and ur pc. make sure the IP configurations are correct (set static or assign DHCP for both ur pc and VM)

arrow

Dec 29 2007, 04:38 PM

QUOTE(Noyze @ Dec 11 2007, 07:26 PM)

I just tweak window's registry to set the TcpAckFrequency default value to 1 instead of 2. I explained how to do it in the lowerping thread below. However got flamed cos some people dun know how to do it lolx. Anyways, am playing with 200ms latency now using the windows registry tweak plus my website loading times are AWESOME! really dang fast. It has to do with windows.

You see the way it works is windows sets your pc to ping the server and waits for a reply then ping again for more info. Whereas once i set the default to 1 it just pings the server like a mad man lolx. So ping and keep on telling the server that it needs more info instead of waiting for the server to reply then ping again. I hope this explains how my method works.

**Do not this might not work for some. But so far among my friends about 30++ of them it works compared to 4 of them of whom this method doesn't work.

And now to explain how to do this:-

1. Run Regedit
2. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > System > CurrentControlSet > Services > Tcpip > Parameters > Interfaces
3. under Interfaces you open one of the folders (The one with your ip)
4. Right Click and New>DWORD Value
5. Value name : TcpAckFrequency : Value Data = 1

6. Close and restart.

I understand there will be a few folders to choose from I did it by trial and error, i.e. DO one the test wow, check ping, if it's not low enough then do the same in another folder to get the right folder, cos i could not find one which stated my i.p.

I know not everyone likes to tweak their registry but those who like to this is another option instead of installing linux.

Hope this helps =)

It working wonder .., in org at peak hours , 300 - 360 ms only - awesome , b4 is 500 - 800ms. same ip range. pvp never be the same
simple and easy. TQVM for the info

Hell Fire

Dec 30 2007, 08:26 AM

nvm problem solved, almost got my home connection screwed up =x LOL

tarzan15

Dec 30 2007, 10:09 PM

ok quaz, how to do that? lol. i can access to firefox through vm thou, guide me plz..ty

Quazacolt

Dec 31 2007, 02:40 AM

QUOTE(tarzan15 @ Dec 30 2007, 10:09 PM)

ok quaz, how to do that? lol. i can access to firefox through vm thou, guide me plz..ty

first you gotta access your router's DHCP controls (refer to your router/modem manual)

then you can assign IP's to each machine.

once that is done you can configure ur VM/routes accordingly based on the ip you assigned

shykull

Dec 31 2007, 09:39 AM

type "ifconfig" in the console to get ur VM machine ip. then just follow the guide, oh and there is a typo the part where "su-nobody" its suppose to be "su=nobody"

the VM reroute works for me