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manoque
Dear all,

Test number 2 : 5:50ish pm. Just came back from work. This is usually the peak time for congested traffic for me.

See attached result.

All i can say is i am happy. I will do more testing and review it once i play on it and see the total improvement. The test i've done mostly just initial testing.

So... from the 2 test i've done, it looks promising.
busbos
QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 4 2007, 07:25 AM)
yeah, pay with CC via paypal.
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how to do this?
fjoru103
Man its dam very very tempting
WOuld love to wait for another while if all good smile.gif
Then i might join the party
Aggroboy
Got my account today... less 100 ms but everybody keeps teleporting and client will crash when too many things onscreen. rclxub.gif

Also if you use Vista, there is some chance your WoW will crash when you start up every run.
froz3nnoob
QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Dec 5 2007, 08:55 PM)
Got my account today... less 100 ms but everybody keeps teleporting and client will crash when too many things onscreen. rclxub.gif

Also if you use Vista, there is some chance your WoW will crash when you start up every run.
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Use my account i dont have that problem when run up .. you means run the wow client right? i run quite smooth without any problem.. maybe i need to test more ~~ will post up my screen shoot soon^^ thumbup.gif Yea and lowerping FTW ~~ 300ms before lower ping and 200 ms after lowerping!! YEA! FTW!!! wub.gif
kenzai82
greetings =)

u getting 300ms without lowerping? how is that possible with streamyx atm ???

im getting 280-330ms off-peak with lowerping.. my felguards, when u intercept, it really intercept in time.. no more delay in catching off runners 30yd away in pvp.. everything that u cast, it cast instantly..

but the problem is with spike.. sometimes it will spike.. but the lowerping admin said they will prepare a server soon dedicated to malaysia line due to some of malaysian not getting the 200++ms ping.. =) so please introduce many of your malaysian wow player friends to have the server up asap =)
manoque
QUOTE(froz3nnoob @ Dec 5 2007, 08:15 PM)
Use my account i dont have that problem when run up .. you means run the wow client right? i run quite smooth without any problem.. maybe i need to test more ~~ will post up my screen shoot soon^^  thumbup.gif  Yea and lowerping FTW ~~ 300ms before lower ping and 200 ms after lowerping!! YEA! FTW!!!  wub.gif
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Sweet.

Anyways, does lowerping work with the new freecap?
Quazacolt
QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Dec 5 2007, 07:55 PM)
Got my account today... less 100 ms but everybody keeps teleporting and client will crash when too many things onscreen. rclxub.gif

Also if you use Vista, there is some chance your WoW will crash when you start up every run.
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im using vista and this sets me off a lil, you sure its a vista problem?
Tentris
I use Vista Home Basic, no problems whatsoever.

Here is in raid performance.

[attachmentid=354406]

Notice the low frame rate, Solarian is notorious for this. But latency holds steady at 393, and Quartz latency is about 571. Quartz latency runs from 350-600.

My IP for the night was 219.95. I connected with this IP on purpose.

After raid, in front of Scryer bank, 250ms.

[attachmentid=354407]

Overall, i'm quite satisfied.


Added on December 6, 2007, 1:51 amReferring to my other thread, Internode (who has direct access to Blizzard, and have asked if this is ok to do), has replicated the Lowerping service for its customers (FOC, of course).

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/585591

So i guess that answers anyone's questions whether this service is a bannable offence.

also, it proves that any ISP with the willpower to serve its customers better can do the same.

Obviously, Internode =/= Streamyx when it comes to wanting to serve its customers better.
senzor
lowerping.. need pay to use? how to get tat IP?
benny1990
QUOTE(senzor @ Dec 6 2007, 08:30 AM)
lowerping.. need pay to use?  how to get tat IP?
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yep u need to pay. visit www.lowerping.com for more details.
froz3nnoob
QUOTE(manoque @ Dec 6 2007, 12:16 AM)
Sweet.

Anyways, does lowerping work with the new freecap?
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What you mean by freecap? hmm.gif

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 6 2007, 12:54 AM)
im using vista and this sets me off a lil, you sure its a vista problem?
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Yea~ my area quite alot people change 512 to 1Mpbs due to last year promotion for the package.. so currently i'm using 512 package so it quite fast for me =) currently i dont go raiding cause i only 20 over level ~~ for instance i dont feel any lag though~ innocent.gif
aaltong
QUOTE(kenzai82 @ Dec 5 2007, 10:00 PM)
but the problem is with spike.. sometimes it will spike.. but the lowerping admin said they will prepare a server soon dedicated to malaysia line due to some of malaysian not getting the 200++ms ping.. =) so please introduce many of your malaysian wow player friends to have the server up asap =)
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whah.... this is good news. dedicating to malaysian player.
my latency is always around 900ms ~1500ms with shitmyx. cry.gif
I think i will use lowerping after i reach lvl70 and start PvP.

froz3nnoob
i got what u means by freecap already =D haha just try out can't use the freecap everytime i start my application it can't connect to the server =.=" oh ya i get 300 ~ 400 ms without freecap =D
Quazacolt
QUOTE(aaltong @ Dec 6 2007, 10:33 AM)
whah.... this is good news. dedicating to malaysian player.
my latency is always around 900ms ~1500ms  with shitmyx.  cry.gif
I think i will use lowerping after i reach lvl70 and start PvP.
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actually, its dedicated to australian player, but it works for msia players too so msia players are hopping on the bandwagon.
froz3nnoob
QUOTE(kenzai82 @ Dec 5 2007, 11:00 PM)
greetings =)

u getting 300ms without lowerping? how is that possible with streamyx atm ???

im getting 280-330ms off-peak with lowerping.. my felguards, when u intercept, it really intercept in time.. no more delay in catching off runners 30yd away in pvp.. everything that u cast, it cast instantly..

but the problem is with spike.. sometimes it will spike.. but the lowerping admin said they will prepare a server soon dedicated to malaysia line due to some of malaysian not getting the 200++ms ping.. =) so please introduce many of your malaysian wow player friends to have the server up asap =)
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Yea, i got 300+ in the australian time afternoon ~~ quite peak that time =D. There A picture Show a thousand word =D
QUOTE(manoque @ Dec 6 2007, 12:16 AM)
Sweet.

Anyways, does lowerping work with the new freecap?
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It does i think =D i open my WoW using freecap! i can't direct open if i put my Program -> wow.exe If i use exe i can't connect to the server. Don't know why i need to use the launcher~ =)


Maverick_Neutron
just gr8, Paypal...lol, need a credit card..dammit, 2 more years to wait...haiz...
khelben
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 6 2007, 11:02 AM)
actually, its dedicated to australian player, but it works for msia players too so msia players are hopping on the bandwagon.
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They will have server/s just for Malaysians.
Sichiri
ok I'm convinced. All I need now is a way to suscribe.
Anyone willing to help suscribe a one-month for me AFTER I bank in the money to your account?
drcopy1985
QUOTE(khelben @ Dec 6 2007, 03:42 PM)
They will have server/s just for Malaysians.
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when?
how do u know?
aaltong
QUOTE(Sichiri @ Dec 6 2007, 04:46 PM)
ok I'm convinced. All I need now is a way to suscribe.
Anyone willing to help suscribe a one-month for me AFTER I bank in the money to your account?
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check the forum, they said soon free trail will be up again.
khelben
http://lowerping.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t...8865bd8aa1629d0

This is what exactly happened to my account a year ago. 72-hour suspension. I suspect its the IP change and not the software itself, like what Myremi is concerned about.

Took them 12 months to lift my final warning laugh.gif They just lifted mine earlier today.
OmgBBQ
okay... for those who using lowerping.. or planing to use lowerping.... i got some news for u...

account suspended 3 days....

blizzard mail 1
QUOTE
* * * NOTICE OF FINAL WARNING * * *This is a notification regarding the World of Warcraft account XXXXXXX. Access to this account has been temporarily disabled for exploitation of the World of Warcraft economy or for being associated to accounts which have been closed for intended exploitation. Based on a review of the information presented, this World of Warcraft account has been given a final warning and a 72 hour account suspension, in addition to any previous warnings issued. Until the suspension has been lifted, the account will not be accessible. Please note that Blizzard Entertainment will be unable to provide further information regarding the specific time an account will become accessible again. This action has been taken in accordance with the Terms of Use (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html) and our game policies (http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01712p). According to the World of Warcraft Terms of Use, to which all players agree when insta


blizzard mail 2
QUOTE
Greetings,Thank you for your follow up e-mail regarding the account action on XXXXXXX. This account has been issued a 72 hour suspension as a result of access from a part of the world that is significantly different from the region the account has been registered to. Our review of the account indicates that the World of Warcraft account you were using was accessed by a third party (for example, a sibling, friend and/or leveling service) for the purpose of advancing characters on the account in any way (for example, gaining levels, honor, and/or wealth.) Please take a moment to review the World of Warcraft Terms of Use at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html which state that your Password is to be kept confidential at all times and you are solely responsible for the security of your Password. You may not disclose your Password to anyone, or allow your Password to be used by anyone other than yourself and/or your one (1) minor child.


waiting on blizzard mail 3...

all right.. i was using this service since the 2nd day they launch this to public... i was happy with this service cause i can get 220-230ms stable in 25man raid or arena or wherever...
until i got the mail above this morning...
and not only me.. my guildmate that's in singapore also kena the same mail...
froz3nnoob
you got ban for that ??? =) please tell us the full record do please ^^ thank
Hell Fire
^
Isn't that obvious enough...?
khelben
QUOTE(froz3nnoob @ Dec 6 2007, 11:43 PM)
you got ban for that ??? =) please tell us the full record do please ^^ thank
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You sounded surprised
intothefantasy
QUOTE
from a part of the world that is significantly different from the region the account has been registered to


i guess from that message above means ur ip is not from malaysian...i heard last time got of toc of blizz abt which country can play....
myremi
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-repli...41656&p=12#r234

Could be because of this. Apparently there was a loophole in some 3rd party server protocol. And the reset tonite was suppose to fix it, according to one of my guildies.

Internode contacted Blizzard already about this bug/loophole. Then again, I guess we'll know in the next few hours whether others are affected.
OmgBBQ
QUOTE(froz3nnoob @ Dec 6 2007, 11:43 PM)
you got ban for that ??? =) please tell us the full record do please ^^ thank
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go read http://lowerping.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=177 for more info or update..
this thread posted by my guildmate from sg that got suspended..

all right... more ppl getting banned now...
Quazacolt
QUOTE(OmgBBQ @ Dec 6 2007, 11:22 PM)
okay... for those who using lowerping.. or planing to use lowerping.... i got some news for u...

account suspended 3 days....

blizzard mail 1
blizzard mail 2
waiting on blizzard mail 3...

all right.. i was using this service since the 2nd day they launch this to public... i was happy with this service cause i can get 220-230ms stable in 25man raid or arena or wherever...
until i got the mail above this morning...
and not only me.. my guildmate that's in singapore also kena the same mail...
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and thus my worries appreared right before me.

ill rather continue to lag and wait for an official blue stating its 100% OK to use this service.
fjoru103
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 7 2007, 02:19 AM)
and thus my worries appreared right before me.

ill rather continue to lag and wait for an official blue stating its 100% OK to use this service.
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Haiz *** lo
I also subscribe but only use for like few hours.
Guess to prevent the ban have to stop using now lo
7AUD to buy a lesson o well smile.gif
Haiz no choice la still malaysia tmnut so sux
*** NA SING T.T
man i am so mad now
froz3nnoob
QUOTE(fjoru103 @ Dec 7 2007, 04:38 AM)
Haiz *** lo
I also subscribe but only use for like  few hours.
Guess to prevent the ban have to stop using now lo
7AUD to buy a lesson o well smile.gif
Haiz no choice la still malaysia tmnut so sux
*** NA SING T.T
man i am so mad now
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Don't Worry dude, if you paid for it then use it. I also using currently =). Look at the thread posted by OmgBBQ http://lowerping.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=177. The admin of the lowerping say that blizzard say thy won't ban user from using lowerping. So it quite saved.. although they got ban maybe the admin will solve it for us. So no worried~ this was the first case though. cool.gif I'm using now hehe ^^ nice nice ^^ thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
supernothing
sounds like they are after hardcore levelling users. i've been casually playing using lowerping. let's see how that goes this coming 1-2 days. been thinking about taking it up a notch in the weekends but now, haih...
fjoru103
QUOTE(froz3nnoob @ Dec 7 2007, 09:48 AM)
Don't Worry dude, if you paid for it then use it. I also using currently =). Look at the thread posted by OmgBBQ http://lowerping.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=177. The admin of the lowerping say that blizzard say thy won't ban user from using lowerping. So it quite saved.. although they got ban maybe the admin will solve it for us. So no worried~ this was the first case though.  cool.gif  I'm using now hehe ^^ nice nice ^^ thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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I hope so man
I seriously do
But yet haiz dono la , also scare got ban lol
Btw i at jubei and yesterday while i raid vashj, sometimes ping 300-500 but huge spike
Is it might be a pc spec problem as well??
Kurei
My frens were spiking also using it last night. Also at jubei. Maybe jubei is a shit server. -.-
Quazacolt
most likely their server instability/capacity issues causing the spike

and/or your firewall or other network configurations not being done thoroughly. it could also be your router's port blocking etc and needs to be forwarded. may want to check all sides before drawing a conclusion.

in the end im just worried bout the banning issue, because other than that the 200-300 ms is darn tempting and any bumps in their service i can troubleshoot it so long the problem isnt fully on their end.
sojurn
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 7 2007, 02:07 PM)
most likely their server instability/capacity issues causing the spike

and/or your firewall or other network configurations not being done thoroughly. it could also be your router's port blocking etc and needs to be forwarded. may want to check all sides before drawing a conclusion.

in the end im just worried bout the banning issue, because other than that the 200-300 ms is darn tempting and any bumps in their service i can troubleshoot it so long the problem isnt fully on their end.
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I was looking through the tracerts last night during the bad lag spike, I think it was the peering from malaysia -> LP, there were alot of dropped packets in between. Not sure who's "fault" it is, it could have just been compensating for a router being brought down. Regarding the banning issue, if you notice both emails from blizz, the first said about exploiting economy (normally associated with accs being hacked) and the 2nd was for logging from elsewhere.

Both of these are *usually* detected by a rapid change in IP. Hence why I have been very careful not to log in using LP then suddenly log in without LP. The IP change there would be drastic (you can't realistically travel from msia->aus in a few mins, and blizz have warned about this on the forums a few times). Of course, this is just my opinion/interpretation, and I have said this even before I knew about the bans in an earlier post in this thread.

My only surprise is that blizzard isn't aware of the usual list of IPs being used by LP and hence realised that it was just a proxy issue rather than actually moving. I guess maybe that's why they dun support tunneling, its much more difficult to pin down where a PC actually is. And regarding using the account elsewhere from where u registered, I really don't get that part, I played US WoW from EU for almost 2 whole years and similarly, I have played EU WoW from malaysia during summer hols without a problem, so I'm not sure what they mean by that (unless its again, related to the rapid IP change).

Also, news about Internode using this sort of method further reassures me that its not bannable by Blizz, since blizz would be pretty quick to pretty much kill off any player using Internode to play WoW.

Just my 2 cents. Oh, and report regarding 40v40 AV, 260ms <3 <3 I'll post screenies when I can (at work atm). All I can say is, I might be willing to take a 3 day ban for this, I've not had this much fun in WoW since I returned to this country after playing on EU from UK (~100ms). It really feels like how it should be, my druid friend and I took on a rogue/warr/mage (all higher level then us and won), I can safely say that we probably wouldn't have if it were not for my spells goin off in time, positioning myself and CSing the mage at the right moments.
vailance
wah seriuos can get the greenie pings.. ong.. gotta try it.. lol
fjoru103
Got a reply today from blizz mail smile.gif
Below are the mail msg

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Blizzard Entertainment's Technical Support
department.

Unfortunately, we do not have specific information regarding the use of
external services in conjunction with WoW. However, in most cases, it
is not providing you with an unfair in-game advantage, it is not
likely to be an issue.
sojurn
QUOTE(fjoru103 @ Dec 7 2007, 04:48 PM)
Got a reply today from blizz mail smile.gif
Below are the mail msg

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Blizzard Entertainment's Technical Support
department. 

Unfortunately, we do not have specific information regarding the use of
external services in conjunction with WoW.  However, in most cases, it
is not providing you with an unfair in-game advantage, it is not
likely to be an issue.
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I wonder if they will argue that us having green pings is an unfair advantage against US players tongue.gif
froz3nnoob
CoOl! safe to use then =X
Sichiri
QUOTE(sojurn @ Dec 7 2007, 05:04 PM)
I wonder if they will argue that us having green pings is an unfair advantage against US players tongue.gif
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or just plain racist, cause outback rednecks and OMG AZNS! are pwning the American pride. biggrin.gif
Quazacolt
QUOTE(fjoru103 @ Dec 7 2007, 04:48 PM)
Got a reply today from blizz mail smile.gif
Below are the mail msg

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Blizzard Entertainment's Technical Support
department. 

Unfortunately, we do not have specific information regarding the use of
external services in conjunction with WoW.  However, in most cases, it
is not providing you with an unfair in-game advantage, it is not
likely to be an issue.
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too dodgy for my taste.
myremi
it's now a wait and see game. although with blizz, it can sometimes be a wait and see game for months though. sad.gif
Maverick_Neutron
Unfair advantage...so this is all a big conspiracy? They give us laggy gameplay just so that we won't be able to beat them a their own game?! shocking.gif LOL, they got alot to learn about us asians, time to hand their asses back to them on platters!! LOL!! bruce.gif
froz3nnoob
QUOTE(Maverick_Neutron @ Dec 8 2007, 02:25 AM)
Unfair advantage...so this is all a big conspiracy? They give us laggy gameplay just so that we won't be able to beat them a their own game?! shocking.gif LOL, they got alot to learn about us asians, time to hand their asses back to them on platters!! LOL!! bruce.gif
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bruce.gif bruce.gif bruce.gif AGREE bruce.gif bruce.gif bruce.gif. We play Wow in lag and they play smoothly! It quite unfair mega_shok.gif
Jas2davir
then play ragnarok la better again all get equal lagg or pack your bags and move to us
Sichiri
QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Dec 8 2007, 12:04 PM)
then play ragnarok la better again all get equal lagg or pack your bags and move to us
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people don't play Ragnarok. Ragnarok plays people!
froz3nnoob
hahah Ragnarok ? SUX MAN! it totally sux! I still got 3 ghosting not yet sell ... people offering me 400 i sell at 300 ~ cause someday ro going to shut down already =X only left 1k people with ERO and MRO migrate together swt sweat.gif
Quazacolt
QUOTE(Sichiri @ Dec 8 2007, 12:18 PM)
people don't play Ragnarok. Ragnarok plays people!
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good one sir.
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