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loafer
QUOTE(fmkl1437 @ Dec 24 2007, 04:20 PM)
izzit available for WOW-tw?
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Wouldn't really make sense because the proxy server is located in the US I think.
Hell Fire
I thought wow-tw's latency 24/7 green?
pcomet
IS that this lowerping also make other game work great? maybe cod 4 while play with ausie server , or any other mmorpg?
judgetread
QUOTE(pcomet @ Dec 25 2007, 11:28 PM)
IS that this lowerping also make other game work great? maybe cod 4 while play with ausie server , or any other mmorpg?
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wowtunnel, lowergameping type services do work, but usually only for wow. Wow uses some strange tcp socket settings (most likely to limit traffic on their network) Dropping pings from 500+ to anywhere between 180-290 makes a huge difference in pvp and even in pve. You can ofcourse message the support of the service u are using and ask about other games, id personally ask nicely and maybe throw in what ports the other game uses just to make it easier and more likely for them to work on.

I tried:

lowerping.com
gamepath.net
lowergameping.com

All work pretty much the same, and as far as i can see lowergameping.com servers are in Australia & United States which maybe a advantage (not changing your region as far as blizzard is concerned) giving the other services as U.S based only.

You deffiently shouldnt level using these services, but the advantage of 300+ms can be a lot if you take into consideration a flash heal or stance dance fear..

just my 2 cents.
jaya_pc87
well there are few ways to make game playing smooth smile.gif

1. use proxy server like they provide above
or use non p2p unencrypted vpn made for this purposes

i have setup a few of this type services for local cybercafes before as they have bad routing from tmnuts to taiwan and also to US
gpa4ite2008
Lowerping is useless for malaysia now.... rather use P1MAX

40% of the world say lowerping is a scam... and also even you got a new ip ... tmnet will block lowerping even you ask them not to.. so its useless. My friend paid 109USD for it and only used for a week. Tmnet called him and saying about this lowerping is blocked from their network .


Added on December 26, 2008, 5:14 pmwhat did judgetread stated was true.. no point getting these services because few parts of this service already inside the patch of WoW unless you play a private server thats your own business. Blizzard already stated that the " registry hack " is already in their patch in 2.4 and also they use other service other than lowerping .

Falk
QUOTE(gpa4ite2008 @ Dec 26 2008, 05:05 PM)
Lowerping is useless for malaysia now.... rather use P1MAX

40% of the world say lowerping is a scam...


40% of statistics are made up.

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and also even you got a new ip ... tmnet will block lowerping even you ask them not to.. so its useless.


Is there a basis for this?

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My friend paid 109USD


Your friend either got scammed, is a moron, or is lying.

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Added on December 26, 2008, 5:14 pmwhat did judgetread stated was true.. no point getting these services because few parts of this service already inside the patch of WoW unless you play a private server thats your own business. Blizzard already stated that the " registry hack " is already in their patch in 2.4 and also they use other service other than lowerping .
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The only thing Patch 2.3 did was to disable the Nagle algorithm, or the TCP_NODELAY socket variable. It did nothing to alleviate the TCP_ACKFREQ issue which is the more significant part of why WoW's connection protocols give such a horrendous latency compared to straight out pinging the servers.

It is obvious you either have no idea what you're talking about with regards to Lowerping, or have it confused with something else. As of now, you can literally just create a Lowerping account and immediately use it on a trial basis (it disconnects you periodically on trial accounts), and costs AUS7 for a month's subscription (So yeah, I have nfi where a figure of 109USD came from)

I've been getting 200-230 around the clock*, rarely if ever going above 300ms during peak hours. I have absolutely no idea what you're doing wrong to get different results. This is to Frostmourne, where without LP at the moment good connectivity is more or less nonexistant with 10k+ latencies on the same TMNET IP ranges (10k+ has nothing to do with normal connectivity, but I'm just throwing it out there as a comparison as to the reliability of the proxy service)

What you get is a service that thousands of other people who also play the game are using - if anything happens to the connections, all these people are going to be complaining at the same time, and it is in LP's best interest to get it fixed ASAP; this means much more reliable routing than just taking whatever your ISP hands you. Case in point: The current problem across Christmas period.

What the risks actually are, is the fact that you're passing your data through someone else's box, and the fact that if you're stupid about IP-hopping across continents multiple times in a short period, it's bound to raise some flags.

* http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5752/wo...08060347vd2.jpg Not exaggerating, here's a screenie with 218ms; I can take more during peak hours if you want. Quartz castbar shown mid-cast just for you junkies who know what the red portion signifies.


Added on December 27, 2008, 5:22 amWanted to add. This was w.r.t Lowerping itself, as in the original, Australian based proxy service. It's not to be confused with local counterparts (which many people just dub 'lowerping' anyway, much like how all toothpaste is Colgate), which may or may not be better/worse - as I do not use them, I cannot comment. But what I'm trying to say is, the difference is there, and it's real.

Internet connectivity isn't all just about a couple of TCP variables, or what IP you get when connecting to streamyx. It's a shit ton more complex than that, and if you think it's worth AUS7 a month (or whatever fee the local counterparts charge) to let someone else deal with all the technical bullshit while you just play the game, then by all means subscribe. Or just test out the free trials.
Falk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle_algorithm

"For this reason, TCP implementations usually provide applications with an interface to disable the Nagle algorithm. This is typically called the TCP_NODELAY option"

That's exactly what Blizzard turned off.
gpa4ite2008
QUOTE(Falk @ Dec 27 2008, 07:51 AM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle_algorithm

"For this reason, TCP implementations usually provide applications with an interface to disable the Nagle algorithm. This is typically called the TCP_NODELAY option"

That's exactly what Blizzard turned off.
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Yo man that TCP already included in the PATCH 2.X last year.. no point going for that.
myremi
Falk, it'll just fly over his head. Why bother? Sigh.
Falk
I wasn't going to. I've got pretty low expectations for local forums.
fearz
Didnt bother reading the thread but yes lowerping is legit and I've been using for almost a year already. Best period was when I was getting about 200ms ping but usually its around 250-300ms...when streamyx isnt acting like a b****.
As for whether it works with other games its best to read their forums and they only have proxies in US and Europe so of course wow taiwan wont be affected.

erni3
nope its no legit. Blizzard said it.
myremi
QUOTE(erni3 @ Jan 4 2009, 07:20 PM)
nope its no legit. Blizzard said it.
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Link please.
ekwk
Gamepath and Lowerping are legit. Otherwise we would have been shutdown by now. I've got hundreds of users from all over the world and nobody has gotten banned.

GMs usually give you a generic response, they will just tell you cannot use any third party programs but this methods for ping lowering has been around for a long time and are nothing illegal or considered a cheat.
gpa4ite2008
QUOTE(erni3 @ Jan 4 2009, 07:20 PM)
nope its no legit. Blizzard said it.
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yup it is not legit... these people are trying to make money of course they would not say its non-legit.... if not how they make money...

If you guys think that this is legit sure ... post a conversation you and blizzard staff about this lowerping or game path. Than we will try to believe you. I asked 2 times by sending a email and sending links to them. They told me that if you use this and get caught via ip you will get banned without any warnings.


Added on January 7, 2009, 5:21 pmBlizzard said that this is againest TERM OF CONDITiON because lowerping and game path are IP/Third party WoW services that never get approved. If you use it and you did not get banned maybe you are just lucky. A lot people get banned using this and they crying at the WOW US GM in game support forum .

This is against the TOC because IP/Enhanced latency / third party services are not allowed.. READ THE Term of condition.


Added on January 7, 2009, 5:23 pm
QUOTE(ekwk @ Jan 6 2009, 05:12 PM)
Gamepath and Lowerping are legit. Otherwise we would have been shutdown by now. I've got hundreds of users from all over the world and nobody has gotten banned.

GMs usually give you a generic response, they will just tell you cannot use any third party programs but this methods for ping lowering has been around for a long time and are nothing illegal or considered a cheat.
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Yes it is not a cheat but it is a IP/Enchanced WoW service or third party usage. Term of conditions say that whoever use these will be banned without warnings. You only have hundreds of users but i heard some of them were ignored calls by you and the number is out of service most of the time.


Added on January 7, 2009, 5:27 pmIf you say is legit , please post a screen shot blizzard staff and you talking in a conversation about the problem. If not we will still say its not legit.

People out there reading this if you dont want get your account banned so dont risk using this although streamyx line sucks. Its better even you have 500ms without getting banned or scare blizzard track you.
erni3
I understand actually lowerping and gamepath good especially with screamyx. No offense but one of my friend got warning but not ban. Maybe because he lvl 1-80 too quick, blizzard suspect he hire ppl to lvl for him. So my suggestion fine for lvl 80 but if you want to power-level do it slowly and don't send massive gold to friend or do anything stupid.

What i mean its illegal but blizzard "close one eye and open one" just be caution and "Read" Term and Condition before accusing me. cry.gif

This is a friendly reminder and not against gamepath or lowerping user.
gpa4ite2008
I can get level 1 -80 in 1 week 2 days thats the fastest i can do .. i did not get banned and i already did that 3 times aka 3 characters.

My friends also get warning but some GM are good open one eye close one eye.. only give you warning . If you got tracked by a experienced GM ... bye to your account


Added on January 7, 2009, 5:39 pm
QUOTE(erni3 @ Jan 7 2009, 05:31 PM)
I understand actually lowerping and gamepath good especially with screamyx. No offense but one of my friend got warning but not ban. Maybe because he lvl 1-80 too quick, blizzard suspect he hire ppl to lvl for him. So my suggestion fine for lvl 80 but if you want to power-level do it slowly and don't send massive gold to friend or do anything stupid.

What i mean its illegal but blizzard "close one eye and open one" just be caution and "Read" Term and Condition before accusing me.  cry.gif

This is a friendly reminder and not against gamepath or lowerping user.
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Super duper illegal.... of course the game path dude say is safe because he is selling it or else no one buys from him. Anyway i just want to help people who dont know about this and dont let them get ban. Do something nice and warn people , if you want to use it go ahead use it . Get ban also not our problem , we just help you only.
erni3
Duh you don't get what i mean. My Friend got ban because he Lvl using lowerping (he lvl himself) . So they trace his IP and those IP all identical from one server. Mana Tahu, those Gold seller and Power lvler service use these service and blizzard blacklisted these IP. (i might be wrong) all base on assumption. I know at Jalan Pudu or Pasar there one very big company from Malaysia gold seller and power leveling company. (Just want to prove not all gold seller from China)

myremi
Usually, with speed leveling, it's warning first with some gameplay restrictions i.e. temp ban. It's also known that Blizz usually does this with bots which probably alerts GMs. Having said that, it could also be that a person who doesn't have much interaction with other players i.e. guildchat or chatting with other ppl, will also become circumspect.

The "open one eye, close one eye" is actually based on GMs i.e. if they are zealous enough to be trigger happy or not. Some are more so than others. Not all GMs have the same basis and there's more than 4000 of them online.

The TOC is very grey about the 3rd party services like Gamepath and Lowerping because they don't quite fit into the categories mentioned in the TOC i.e. those servers do not interfere in any way with the Blizz servers or game. They also do not sell any in-game product. All they do is provide a smoother and stable connection to the endpoint i.e. the authentication server (presumably). Also the "Service" term defined is Blizz online service, not 3rd party services.

The only thing is that the IP seen by Blizz servers is different but would this compromise their TOC? Then you have to ask whether VPN or proxy services are also violating the TOC.

Does it give an added advantage to the overall population? Not really when you think of how many American players are already having that particular advantage.

Anyway, it's still a grey area since Blizz can't seem to provide the legal evidence to bring Gamepath or Lowerping to court. I took Gamepath for awhile but not anymore after the Streamyx connection got better after patch 3.0 came out.

There is also another thing to note but I need to dig up the LYN forums abit. There was a WoW player who was ban a couple years ago for using winsock but was unban last year through no action on his own. Or something like that.
gpa4ite2008
Ya i know that company ... they also use game path or lowerping i forgot...
erni3
My point is "its not legit". Just use with caution. All i know blizzard could trace IP. I m not against anyone, just a friendly reminder and make my statement.
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