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irenic
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As requested by some forumers to have an official OC thread for the new ATi radeon, the HD 3850 and HD 3870 so here is the official thread for these new cards so that we can share our oc results, benchies, modding, or any dicussion regarding these cards that is related to OC..
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What's news.. (quoted from ATi AMD Website|:

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ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series – Key Features
PCI Express(R) 2.0 – Get ready for the most demanding graphics applications with PCI Express 2.0 support, which allows up to twice the throughput of current AMD PCI Express cards.

Incredible Microsoft(R) DirectX(R) 10.1 performance – You’ll be blown away by life-like graphics from the latest DirectX(R) 10.1 games, with stunning 3D graphics and shading effects.

320 Stream Processors – More than enough horsepower to support the most demanding graphics applications.

ATI CrossFireX™ multi-GPU – Upgrade to even greater 3D performance quickly and easily thanks to plug-and-play ATI CrossFireX technology with up to quad-GPU support.

Unified Video Decoder – View and manipulate the latest Blu-ray and HD DVD content with a dedicated hardware video decoder that leaves your CPU free to perform other tasks.

Ultimate Image Quality – Performance that rivals high-end HD-DVD and Blu-ray players on displays with resolutions that exceed 1080p – up to 2560x1600.

Integrated Digital Outputs – Enjoy your digital content the way you want to, with built-in HDMI that includes 5.1 surround audio for big screen entertainment.

More Processing Performance per Watt – Get up to twice the Gigaflops per watt of previous generations of high-end AMD GPUs.

ATI PowerPlay™ Technology – power saving features that reduce power consumption at idle or during low-usage

Runs Cool and Quiet – With a smaller chip designed to use less power, your system can take advantage of high-end Windows Vista(R) features while running more efficiently and quieter than ever.



ATi vs Nvidia... on paper

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Driver and bios

Catalyst for Windows XP

Catalyst for Windows Vista 32bit

Bios / OC hotfix (strictly for 3870 only)
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Modded OC bios:
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3800biosmod/03.htm

Flashing tools:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/Utili...S_Flashing/ATI/
irenic
now let me post my single and CF results..


Rig spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1426mhz 7-7-7-24
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Single

3870 @ default:
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3870 OC @ 891/1314:
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Rig Spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1339mhz 7-7-7-23
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Crossfire

3870 CF @ default:
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3870 CF @ 820/1250:
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gengstapo
g0od jobs bro

but still the 3870 CF score kinda lower i believe compared to 2900xt CF which can get 20k score of 3dmark smile.gif


ps: i thought the 2900xt default memory was 2Ghz aite?
clayclws
It's because of the motherboard. The P35T-DQ6 does not offer dual 16x PCI-Ex 2.0...Maybe should replace motherboard with X38 or X48, when there's enough resources for that.


Added on December 2, 2007, 11:43 amAnyone up for setting Dual HD3850 512MB CF-X? I surely want to see the results as HD3850 512MB seems to be the card that offers the best bang for the buck at the moment.
arjuna_mfna
QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 2 2007, 07:00 AM)
now let me post my single and CF results..
Rig spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1426mhz 7-7-7-24
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Single

3870 @ default:
[attachmentid=352590]

3870 OC @ 891/1314:
[attachmentid=352591]
Rig Spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1339mhz 7-7-7-23
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Crossfire

3870 CF @ default:
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3870 CF @ 820/1250:
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good score, bro any comment while playing games? how the fps? if wanna compare to 8800gt sli
ocz
referring to those results i think 3870 CF pawned single 8800 ultra. thumbup.gif

Nice result to share. rclxms.gif
arjuna_mfna
QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 2 2007, 12:26 PM)
referring to those results i think 3870 CF pawned single 8800 ultra. thumbup.gif

Nice result to share. rclxms.gif
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ya, it just base on 3dmark score, but when in real game nvidia perform better even 2900xt cf score more then 20k, but when turn in game ati loose, just waiting comment @ post from who hv play game on 3870 crossfire, wanna know did it perform better then sli
ocz
QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Dec 2 2007, 12:31 PM)
ya, it just base on 3dmark score, but when in real game nvidia perform better even 2900xt cf score more then 20k, but when turn in game ati loose, just waiting comment @ post from who hv play game on 3870 crossfire, wanna know did it perform better then sli
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Thats right bro,Ati lose when playing games like Flight Sim X in overall performance. sweat.gif
irenic
QUOTE(gengstapo @ Dec 2 2007, 10:53 AM)
g0od jobs bro

but still the 3870 CF score kinda lower i believe compared to 2900xt CF which can get 20k score of 3dmark smile.gif
ps: i thought the 2900xt default memory was 2Ghz aite?
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that for 1gb ddr4 version biggrin.gif

QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 2 2007, 11:41 AM)
It's because of the motherboard. The P35T-DQ6 does not offer dual 16x PCI-Ex 2.0...Maybe should replace motherboard with X38 or X48, when there's enough resources for that.


Added on December 2, 2007, 11:43 amAnyone up for setting Dual HD3850 512MB CF-X? I surely want to see the results as HD3850 512MB seems to be the card that offers the best bang for the buck at the moment.
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erm yeah.. regarding to cstkl it's bcoz of my mobo.. btw i already have x38.. but i dun have good ram to make it a fair comparison... i'm waiting for ddr3 board coming to m'sia.. x48 perhaps rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Dec 2 2007, 12:09 PM)
good score, bro any comment while playing games? how the fps? if wanna compare to 8800gt sli
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i havent got chance too test this cf with games yet.. so many commitment.. but i still cant compare with 8800gt SLI, coz never try them.. the best is only to compare it with 8800gt single..

maybe others who has try 8800gt SLI can contribute ur result here thumbup.gif
riku2replica
hoping for mature drivers for ATi graphics.
irenic
i've just tried crysis and when i asked it to set the graphic to optimal setting, it just detect it as medium spec..
so to make it comparable with my previous 8800gt, where i used high settings, i manually adjust all the settings to high, 1920x1200 and no AA.

specs:

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
3870cf @ default
xp sp2

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
Single 8800gt OC @ 700/1750/1800
xp sp2

using fraps to monitor,

avg fps for 8800gt is 26 while 3870 CF is 41..
lowest fps, i notice 8800gt only drop to 23 while 3870 CF drops to 33 (almost 20% performance drop compare to 8800gt 12% ) ..
highest fps 8800gt 31 and 3870 CF is 46
gtoforce
why not try it on vista?
arjuna_mfna
QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 2 2007, 04:33 PM)
i've just tried crysis and when i asked it to set the graphic to optimal setting, it just detect it as medium spec..
so to make it comparable with my previous 8800gt, where i used high settings, i manually adjust all the settings to high, 1920x1200 and no AA.

specs:

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
3870cf @ default
xp sp2

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
Single 8800gt OC @ 700/1750/1800
xp sp2

using fraps to monitor,

avg fps for 8800gt is 26 while 3870 CF is 41..
lowest fps, i notice 8800gt only drop to 23 while 3870 CF drops to 33 (almost 20% performance drop compare to 8800gt 12% ) ..
highest fps 8800gt 31 and 3870 CF is 46
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41fps for 1920x1200 reso, that very good achievement... ,my lcd reso just up to 1680x1050, so it should get lil higher fps, looks i'm going for cf next year...

thanks bro... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
Radeon
QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 2 2007, 04:33 PM)
i've just tried crysis and when i asked it to set the graphic to optimal setting, it just detect it as medium spec..
so to make it comparable with my previous 8800gt, where i used high settings, i manually adjust all the settings to high, 1920x1200 and no AA.

specs:

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
3870cf @ default
xp sp2

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
Single 8800gt OC @ 700/1750/1800
xp sp2

using fraps to monitor,

avg fps for 8800gt is 26 while 3870 CF is 41..
lowest fps, i notice 8800gt only drop to 23 while 3870 CF drops to 33 (almost 20% performance drop compare to 8800gt 12% ) ..
highest fps 8800gt 31 and 3870 CF is 46
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what about your 1g hd 2900xt? or do you have 2900xt CF for us?
irenic
hmm i'll trt it on vista soon..

sorry the 1gb hd 2900xt i sold edi..
168257061
wow..it doesn't show an impressive result on CF setup, like 8800GT SLI...imatuer of driver? hmm.gif
cstkl1
QUOTE(168257061 @ Dec 2 2007, 07:40 PM)
wow..it doesn't show an impressive result on CF setup, like 8800GT SLI...imatuer of driver? hmm.gif
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this is such a silly statement.

one that is an impressive result
second nvidia game without a mature driver for sli??...

anyways this is a overclocking thread dudes..
not a discussion about HD3870 vs 8800gt.
or even the performance


this is what i can tell u about the bios

using the stock bios.. even though u cant go more than 862.. but it was gaming stable 862/2500 easy.

with the new bios that overcomes the pll divider... the mem u can overclock so much and very buggy with CF.



rlhc17
Sapphire 3870 new bios :

1. fixed the 862MHz limit.
2. fixed bugs of the fan speed from always 25%-25% to 35%-50%.

download : http://www.uploading.com/files/IFYV1NN0/112007.rar.html
irenic
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Dec 2 2007, 08:20 PM)
this is such a silly statement.

one that is an impressive result
second nvidia game without a mature driver for sli??...

anyways this is a overclocking thread dudes..
not a discussion about HD3870 vs 8800gt.
or even the performance
this is what i can tell u about the bios

using the stock bios.. even though u cant go more than 862.. but it was gaming stable 862/2500 easy.

with the new bios that overcomes the pll divider... the mem u can overclock so much and very buggy with CF.
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erm do u mean its better if we dont flash it using the new bios?

QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 2 2007, 09:07 PM)
Sapphire 3870 new bios :

1. fixed the 862MHz limit.
2. fixed bugs of the fan speed from always 25%-25% to 35%-50%.

download :  http://www.uploading.com/files/IFYV1NN0/112007.rar.html
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thx!! biggrin.gif
SlayerXT
The latest 3dMark06 world record still using HD2900XT.
irenic
QUOTE(§layerXT @ Dec 4 2007, 02:31 AM)
The latest 3dMark06 world record still using HD2900XT.
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so? unsure.gif

1st.. look at the price.. 2900xt 1gb @ 1700 or 2900xt 512mb @ 1300 vs 3870 @ 850..

2nd, i dun think many top ocer are using 3870 currently.. i dunno why, but it's true.. i looked at xs and only few using it... maybe it's not hardcore enuff haha
kvmcom
Any cooler that fit ATI HD3870 yet biggrin.gif
rlhc17
my ati 3870 with fitted with TR-03 biggrin.gif
This is my 4th gfx card that been using this cooler from NV 7900GT - ATI 1950XTX - NV 8800GT - ATI 3870 &.................
seanl
how's the temp compared to the factory cooler?
sukhoi37
rlhc, try this ! tongue.gif

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rlhc17
QUOTE(seanl @ Dec 4 2007, 05:47 PM)
how's the temp compared to the factory cooler?
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Stock cooler full load = 82c
TR-03 with 12cm high speed fan full load = 49c thumbup.gif


QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Dec 4 2007, 08:14 PM)
rlhc, try this !  tongue.gif

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wait ah....i need a spare gfx to standby sad.gif
clayclws
QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 4 2007, 11:54 AM)
my ati 3870 with fitted with TR-03 biggrin.gif
This is my 4th gfx card that been using this cooler from NV 7900GT - ATI 1950XTX - NV 8800GT - ATI 3870 &.................
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TR-03? Is it Thermalright HR-03?
rlhc17
QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 6 2007, 10:54 AM)
TR-03? Is it Thermalright HR-03?
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Yup..........Thermalright HR-03
syazwanreno
QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 6 2007, 01:09 PM)
Yup..........Thermalright HR-03
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wat brand is that? sapphire?
clayclws
Thermalright HR-03 and the newer HR-03 Plus is a 3rd party cooling solution...the brand is Thermalright. You can see it first hand at PC-Zone at Lowyat.
LExus65
sukhoi core clock madness..........

mine 3870 stock fan speed also very scary on full load, 92oC @ full load...... incredible...but after pushing the fan speed to 60% quite ok it turns out to be, full load at around 60oC only
KenDiriwan
Quote frm Topic Title,

Got CFX benchmarking??
sukhoi37
QUOTE(LExus65 @ Dec 6 2007, 05:18 PM)
sukhoi core clock madness..........

mine 3870 stock fan speed also very scary on full load, 92oC @ full load...... incredible...but after pushing the fan speed to 60% quite ok it turns out to be, full load at around 60oC only
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not me la.
check out the posted link.

how's the card's noise at that speed?
syazwanreno
QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 6 2007, 02:09 PM)
Thermalright HR-03 and the newer HR-03 Plus is a 3rd party cooling solution...the brand is Thermalright. You can see it first hand at PC-Zone at Lowyat.
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i mean the GC....
irenic
QUOTE(KenDiriwan @ Dec 6 2007, 05:26 PM)
Quote frm Topic Title,

Got CFX benchmarking??
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for CFX, there's no officially supported driver yet..


nadeng1987
Hey guys.

Does a single 3870 pawn 8800GTS 320MB? Might be thinking of changing card tho. blush.gif
LExus65
noise at 60% fan speed still quite ok, not very intrusive, so if enclose in casing it should be fine.... but what rpm i dunno it show in percentage only..

hoho i notice that only after i post.......... lazy to edit hehe .......

now must wait for non reference card design for a voltage bump to get some madness result......
intothefantasy
my fren had a abit ip35 pro board and tried xfire 3850...he got 8k score for 3dmark06....for single card he already got 7-8k liao...wat is happening? bios problem? i aware his 2nd slot is 4x...but still the result wont be that low
sukhoi37
QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Dec 8 2007, 03:09 PM)
my fren had a abit ip35 pro board and tried xfire 3850...he got 8k score for 3dmark06....for single card he already got 7-8k liao...wat is happening? bios problem? i aware his 2nd slot is 4x...but still the result wont be that low
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mind to tell us his full system specs?
intothefantasy
2180 2.0ghz
corshair xms ddr2 800mhz
3850 saphire 256mb
3850 powercolor 256mb
silverstone strider 560w
winxp 32bit
irenic
i wonder why the score seems a bit low for crossfire.. neway what is his result with only single 3850?
clayclws
QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 9 2007, 07:27 AM)
i wonder why the score seems a bit low for crossfire.. neway what is his result with only single 3850?
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Maybe he forgot d Crossfire bridge? blink.gif Ok, just cracking a lame joke... tongue.gif
hanny562
my 3850 256 single..forget how oc till how much already
intothefantasy
QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 9 2007, 07:27 AM)
i wonder why the score seems a bit low for crossfire.. neway what is his result with only single 3850?
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my fren single card get around 7.8k....we put the xfire bridge ma...need put 1 or 2? we put 1 only...i also just put at my maximus
clayclws
QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Dec 10 2007, 12:07 AM)
my fren single card get around 7.8k....we put the xfire bridge ma...need put 1 or 2? we put 1 only...i also just put at my maximus
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Only one bridge is required. I'm just being lame and silly.
intothefantasy
QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 10 2007, 01:09 AM)
Only one bridge is required. I'm just being lame and silly.
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yea i know, i heard need to do something at the abit ip35 pro bios there abt the pcie..
Radeon
did the 3870 comes with the x-fire bridge?
intothefantasy
QUOTE(Radeon @ Dec 10 2007, 08:34 AM)
did the 3870 comes with the x-fire bridge?
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3850 already come with the bridge...i think 3870 should have
LExus65
yeap all come with the bridge, no worries......

but strangely u need only 1 ......... hehe wander what is the 2nd for......

btw, how is the gaming performance on xcrossfire on high resoultion like 1920*1200..... significant improvement ?? i dun get many reviews on these......
irenic
i think it's hard to find review on CFX yet due to lack of driver..

but i believe AMD are working hard on it and maybe we can see a proper review once phenom and CFX mobos flood the market biggrin.gif
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