I'm gonna be honest and say that I'm kinda sick of the pattern of threads in Girls' Club. It's all about improving our appearance, how-to-please-your-man-more talks, and sex talks, which is OF COURSE infected by guys, which beats the whole purpose of Girls Club in the first place.

I know I'm gonna be receiving lots of bashing for this, but I don't really care; I'm sure there's lots of girls out there who feels the same way as me. Why can't we talk about more serious stuff? Do our lives center around guys that much? Are we helpless without them? No, of course not. I'm not starting on equality and gender issues here but GIRLS, have some dignity!

Why are we talking about private parts and sex before marriage with guys we don't even know in a public forum? Seriously?

So, to start things of, I'd like to talk about a neutral topic. Pick a topic which doesnt center on guys OR sex. Any topic.

I'm a gamer, I love Dave Barry (the author), stand-up comedies, Peter Pan, and my pet sugar glider, Wasabi.

See, that wasn't too hard. Your turn. Sharing is caring.

i bet those threads abt s*xs created by guys wif fake female ID

Yeah I get what you mean... it's really weird seeing people posting about private issues with strangers on a public forum, but then again everybody's anonymous hence there are less inhibitions.

Come to think about it, serious talk have their own respective forums. For example, games are discussed in the game thread, while there's always the hobbies and collectibles thread for sharing one's passion.

Girl's club... well, it's pretty much for girly talk anyway... like makeup and fashion and such.

Cheers.

There's a serious lack of participation from girls in the Real World Issue section so I won't be surprise if most girls are not interested in more serious issues anyway. Perhaps getting pretty and getting a rich husband@"Mr Right" are more important for most girls.

Wow. Thanks for the degradation.

sense_less143, so.. Jit Murad fan eh?

oh?

I really dont want to turn this thread into another guy-bashing thread, because goodness we all know males are already being bashed in real life.

I'm sorry, I dont mean it that way. peace.

Plus, I'm not looking for that kind of serious talk. that belongs there, whether there are or there aren't enough women there is not really my concern. I'm just sick of the normal threads. I figured Girls Talk should center on women issues. not whether i should keep the bloody condom on or off.

Anyway, who's Jit?

I'm a gamer too...I game on the Wii, PS2, PS3, Nintendo and on the PC - Warcraft III Defense of the Ancients. I don't have a particular author that I like but I enjoy chick fics. Standup comedy is teh awesomeness...hehehe.
I know what you mean though, about "girls" all talking about how to please their man and how to look better and stuff like that. I'm personally a boyish girl - I wear makeup once in a blue moon and dress in jeans 99% of the time. No skirts whatsoever and my favorite shoes are my new adidas sneakers. Come on girls, guys aren't everything. If anything, we can live without them...they can't live without us.

Apologies if anyone feels offended, but I didn't mean it in a degradatory way.

Fashion and makeup may seem superficial to some people, but in reality it's still pretty much a heavy weight industry. In fact, I don't think discussing about fashion and makeup is degradatory to anyone, especially females. Talking about where to buy the most beautiful skirt or how to apply eyeshadow is like how guys talk about football or where to get electronic gadgets. Nothing to be ashamed of.

If you read my post again, my point is to state that some of the more serious issues are already been discussed in their own respective forums and there's no need to limit those discussions in the girl's thread. If anything, it'll be welcome for the girl's thread to have some serious discussions about whatever matters that might seem meaningful to girls, not just makeup or fashion.

Then again, if there are female members want to ask about makeup and fashion, why deem those discussions as degradatory?

Peace in, peace out. And hopefully this thread doesn't turn into an extreme feminist/male bashing/ thread. Female rights should be upheld, gender equality respected, but not to the extent of bashing and flaming the other sex.

no idea why is this thread started for in 1st place.
Guys/Girls can never live to be alone forever till death anyway. If you are still single at the age of 40, something is very wrong(this doesnt applies to widower/widow, i respect their loyalty to their love ones).
Guys/Girls have their own problems and can never to be same, so dont try to justify each side's problem.
Guys/Girls think differently too thats y its always categorize as Male/Female.Well someday they might think alike when u manage to find something in between when u fill in your occupation slip.

can i joined ? i'm a gamer too i played PS2, PS3, XBOX, PC - WarcraftIII - DotA, omg can we be frens lol

@starghazzer: I think what the TS means is that it's a little disgusting how ALL threads center around fashion etc. I don't think she's trying to say that discussions on such topics shouldn't be held at all. A little variety is nice indeed. After all, fashion actually DOES have its own subforum just like games and audio etc... well yeah they conveniently put it under GC anyway though.

However, TS, it's true that everything else is mostly covered by other subtopics also. I mean, personally if I were to want to talk about games, I'd actually go to Gamers' Hideout right?

Still, kudos for bringing it up. Kinda refreshing to read about something besides bras and private parts.

P.S: I've not read Dave Barry, and have no idea what a sugar-glider is, but I like actual wasabi.

misao from dragonraja?

Errr yeah. o_O

Yea, that's true. That's why I post in Nintendo also

I'm just saying, is there *any* other things that we girls can talk about that is not about guys and sex?

Shopping is cool. Make-up is cool. I have no problem with either of them. It makes us look good and makes us feel good. But then again when you talk about which make-up will make him fall for you more.. well that makes me gag. That's just my two cents.

And lets not make this a sexist forum. I like guys. But hey, Girls Club is for who again?

Did you know? A research says that when girls dress up, it's actually for the eyes of other girls. It's interesting isn't it?

Haha I'm just happy there's other girls who feel the same way as me, so *hugs*

Yeah I've heard that one. It's quite true, too, I think... I don't think guys even notice that manicure that some girls pay rm100+ for! I recall that on the 83649827364389643th date that my bf and I had, he suddenly exclaimed 'Hey, since when was your hair so long?!'

Errr whoops. Back to the spirit of the thread... so what's a sugar-glider?

sugar-glider:



sugar-glider thread in LYN:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/518158

sorry for the hijack. this is my first post here. but i played DR too long ago and I'm certain there was a misao in Vyseus. You're the thief i think..

Omg cute! Never seen it before. o_O

No lol I was a Yllse mage. Who were you?

err whats dragon raje n vleus?

wow very honest

Sorry yeah Yllse. I see you in war quite often haha. I'm remembering it now. I was a lvl 95 mage from Vyseus. How time passes..i was metalchocobo. That was fun. All characters jamming the entrance to prevent other nations from entering and casting a pool of spells on the spawn location.


Dragon Raja was a MMORPG I used to play about 3 years + ago. And Yllse was a faction, together with Vyseus and something else. I shall post no more about it haha. Off topic in the first place

The one is Zypern ^^

Eh guys don't hijack the thread liow wei lol. Pm me if you all wanna reminisce about old dragonraja times.

On the other hand, I suppose it's kinda good in a way. After all, this is the only gaming-related discussion in girls' club besides the gamer boyfriend rant I think. =X

hey, I'm all for this thread becoming a girl-only game talk thread

don't worry about it, chit chat all you want lol

anyone here play ds?

MEEEE!!!! I'm on the DS WOOT!

ohhh omg you're the legendary Misao .. where's your partner Lordy?!

Oh and I thought I was the only one getting annoyed with all the sex threads around, it's Girl's Club after all, not Sex Club. That or those annoying how to please the guy thread (it's just a guy, you won't die without one.).

I am on DS (Phoenix Wright, you so kills my brain cells!!) too and looting my bf's PSP to play FFT XD

yup Misao the Grand Wizard. Unlike me the Lord Wizard. Too lazy to lvl up

Since when was Lordy my 'partner' omg o_O''' Who were you, Royde?

I would play DS if I had one. Unfortunately, I don't.

There are so many sections in this forum to post topics. I mean, for example, if you want to talk about your pet, there is Pets Wonderland, you want politics, move to RWI or Kopitiam, you want to talk about games, then go to Gamers' Hideout. So what's there left to post in GC? Makeup and boys as you said I know you can make the topic "strictly for girls" over here, but the problem is you don't expect many replies here because 1. lack of girls in LYN 2. lack of participation from already LYN girls 3. hijacked by the guys who try to "buaya" the poor TS or something (no offense) Then, let's say, IF you don't mean to have your topic "strictly for girls", so what's the difference posting here and at the particular forum? And some moderators may even move your topic to the right section.

Actually I just wanted to make a point. Too much sex talk thread out there. I don't want to make it into a 'feminist' forum also, far from it. Guy-bashing will get me nowhere, right?

I also want to discourage girls from posting in those sex threads. Guys jump on any girls' replies there.

There's a thin line here. It's really hard to not cross anything, but I'm doing my best. But if girls talking about games is what it takes to keep this thread alive, so be it

But you know, sometimes girls just want to talk about misc stuff to just other girls, regardless of topics. Or is it just me?

(Currently playing on ds: phantom hourglass, phoenix wright trial and tribulation, sims 2 castaway 85% edi, mysims, lost in blue 1, neves )

LOL!i seriously think these guys got nothing else to do.oh well!why do you worry so much?this is a guy dominated forum after all.they can go anywhere around here including girl's club and talk cock.

anyway let me share about myself and hobby.i am not the typical kind girly girls.i am a girl who likes guys interest.i am not into the make up and fashion shit.i prefer my own natural looks than to put a lot of make up until it becomes fake beauty.i also prefer 2 dress myself with decent dressing than to wear those lala mui fashion.seriously it sucks big time.cars and PC are the only hobby that i passionate the most.i even have a high end DX10 PC myself.all parts are bought by me only using my own savings.i also like to talk about cars.since i cant talk about cars with girls,so i end up talking about cars with all my guy friends most of the time.i would love to do car modification one day.sadly now i cant because i dont have the money and i have not work yet.i still studying.

well thats all i can share about myself.

I'm on the urbz: sims in the city. XD
nintendogs...when I'm bored...and some other stuff on my DS. I'm almost done with Mario Kart.

skylinelover, you sound like my kind of friend. LOL I talk about cars (I'm not good with the modding details) but my friends are like "why the hell do you like looking at cars?"

all i know about cars is that i can drive it lol.

n got car lover here, awesome!

p/s pls refrain from flaming the other sex ya

oh really?well it seems like most girls cant accept a girl that is so different to other typical girls.for me,i dont really care.i will just do what i like best.i like to be a different type of girl.its fun actually.

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i dont think she is actually flaming other gender. she is generalizing her past experience only.peace.

ah well...I dunno. I'm not like other girls, and most of them think I'm a playgirl just cos most of my friends are guys. Whenever I'm back in KL, I hang out with a group of ALL GUYS...usually me the only girl with about five guys.

serious talk in real world issues?

skylinelover> Ahaha~ Car lover eh? I look at cars sometimes though I am not really well verse with it but ehe, at least I won't be lost when my bf talks about cars. But it's funny when some girl friends went bombastic with their "I can't believe you will rather look at cars and play games than to go shopping with us!" -dies-

i need suggestion on a neutral topic which us girls can talk about. can see many stray le. my suggestions:

books- fav chick lit, usually
film - fav films to watch with girlfriends
music - i love pop shuvit n jpop

She'll be the next OPERA.... Cheers!!

WOW thats unbelievable. if 2 guys and one girl hangout, then i am ok with it but 5! wa lao wey! i dont feel secure actually lepaking with too many guys. i feel later the guys might take a big advantage on me.



i see. well not only i am a car lover but car enthusiasts now because i know quite a lot of technical side on each cars. even a lot of guys kinda impressed with me 4 that.

anyway, these girls seriously need 2 open their mind up. my girlfriends also sometimes give me a weird impression when they know that i am a different type of girl. i mean there is really nothing wrong to be totally different girl what. haiz! anyway i dont really care about it after all. no big deal. better move on with life than 2 deal with these kind of girls.

sorry, but i gotta say this.. most ppl say that men usually think about only 1 thing..
but the trend in girls club shows otherwise.. it seems that most of the girls think abt pretty much the same thing too!!

me? i am a mommy of a 3 year old, so i am so way pass all that..
but i frequent this subforum anyways to get to the girls garage sales n stuff..
i tried asking for info on ballet classes a few months back, but nobody replied.. so i dunno..
maybe they honestly have no idea or the topic holds no interest whatsoever because of the trend here..

Hmm I am not sure myself. Maybe something more general than just limiting it to chick stuff? I am not even familiar with chick stuff myself ( )



Ohh hahaha XD I am hopeless with any technical.

Yeah but it's common that people will shut off people that they considered out of norms out of fear of the unknown, I suppose? I am not really bothered by them since I have another group of friends who share the same interest, so I hang out with them a lot. As for those girls, I can hardly share anything with them, the only think they talk about is boys, shopping, boys, beauty, boys or gossip. Although there's nothing wrong with it but I get bored easily with them since I have no interest with those topics. They are nice people though, but too enclosed with the few things they knew and are unwilling to explore new things.

lol my record is me the only girl with 7 guys. XD
but it's normal for me...I'm usually the only girl a lot of the time. The guys I hang out with are my nearest and dearest.

oh well these kinda girls who only know about boys, shopping, boys, beauty, boys or gossip will never have long lasting relationship with bf 4 sure especially the PC n car mod geeks



hahaha then better lo like that i thought your gang is strangers at first haha

I have to totally agree with you guys. Once in a while, I find myself wishing that I had more common interests with other girls. In fact, my only close female friends now are childhood friends, whom I met in primary and the early years of secondary school. College girls... there seem to be only two types. The conservative type who studies 24/7 and I can only seem to have polite conversation with them (oh hey, the nasi lemak stall here is real good!) and won't hang out much cuz they have to study. And the gossipy, flirty, fashiony type, whom I have nothing whatsoever to say to! And the entire spectrum in between.

But as my biggest hobby is gaming, I find myself being able to connect much easier with guys. I actually would rather that it is not the case. Besides the social stigma that's associated with a girl hanging out with only guys, regardless of how innocuous the intent, I've come to realize that a girl can only be so close with guys. Even if you're close to the extent that you can share anything and everything without worrying that the guy secretly likes you or something... you still cannot have slumber parties, or bunk in his room when you come back from outstation, or help each other pick out clothes for that prom, or join that LAN party at midnight.

I only wish more girls were like those who've responded here. Unfortunately, we seem to be the 'abnormal' ones.

Abnormal? lol i never see myself that way. Unique, yeah. Rebellious, yea. abnormal?

well yeah, I mean as if my mom would let me out with four guys by myself. XD
usually those four guys would be my brother, my uncle (who's my age), my best guy friend and my boyfriend.
boyfriend is in canada and isn't malaysian so I won't be hanging out with him in KL XD
other three are always there...so usually we add another guy friend in. hahaha

misao, that is very true. my mom would hang me if I ever asked to have a sleepover at my best guy friend's house. Prom clothes-wise he has a new girlfriend to do that for him. Otherwise, I'm pretty much the person he comes to when he wants a girl's perspective on things and when he wants a shoulder to cry on or even when he wants me to tell him how stupid he is about girlfriends. hahaha

I guess other people just don't get that girls CAN be best friends with guys. I mean at one point my best guy friend and I "dated" but we don't ever talk about that cos it's just sooooooooo weird now...but we have been best friends for five years now and even now, people who don't know us think we're dating - NOT true.

good luck then

Dear TS,

I understand ur frustration in leading creation of this topic, but take it positively. Guys and girls are same nowadays and i didnt see any thread that spamming girls inequality with guys status rite? Though some topic might be off limit and also might be sensitive to someone but still it doesn't hurt right to hear more ppl's opinion? Somehow i think, IMHO la.. this forum is growing very well where a lot opinion can be share..

Lets take for eg. shopping and make-ups ya.. a lot of guys accompany girls to shop and they know how and where to shop with their gf/frens or whosoever. make-ups, some guys know make-ups. They even work inside beauty center specialize in helping girls make up ma. So i think this is a great things to be share around. As u said sharing is caring ma. So for girl they can voice out any of their opinion. So i jz hope everything in this forum can be take positively.

Everyone enjoy and learning and frankly, i do learn a lot things from the forum about girls. And of cos is thanks to the girls precious opinion and guys' sharp point of view.

Peace

ps: and for real you can really create any topic you like. Is good for a non important topic turns out to be an important information for others.