Hi everyone,

erm.. basically.. i know nothing about car audio, just know HU, and front/rear speaker, other than that.. i know nothing.. hahaha...

my car is currently using a PIONEER 1850 HU(if i misund the meaning of HU, then i should say it's a CD player?) haha.. and front door speaker is Stock 1 (dunno 4"/5"/6.5") and Rear speaker is 6"x9" cap ayam speaker(the brand is gold stone that cost less than RM100 if not mistaken)..

after i did some survey on LYN ICE section, i found that there is something call AMP, CrossOver, and SUB.. my car i feel the bass is acceptable, but sometime i feel the clarity is lack a bit, the bass is not clear sometime.. for some song but dunno why some song it do very well the bass is rich.. but if i tune the BASS to maximum and volume increase a lot, the front door speaker will PLUEK PLUEK.. haha.. so i dun dare to max the bass and increase the volume more than 14, sometime 16 is maximum for some soft song, erm.. i know differnt HU has different numbering for volume.. here i refer it to PIONEER 1850 HU

i don't want a sub box nor any underseat sub, coz my boot has not enough space.. kekeke.. i found out everyone in LYN are toooo pro, RM1000 is the minimum for ICE, omg.. this is 10times out of my budget, haha.. sorry about that.. i dunno ICE cost that much..

need some recommendation, i saw there is a thread in Bulk Sales HERE he is selling some speaker, i am interested on a set of 6.5" speaker and a pair of tweeter SET, RM90 1, do u think this will solve the clarity of my bass and overall performance also be increased?

if kelisa front door cannot suit 6.5" speaker, then i think i wanna buy the RM65 tweeter, but i dunno wanna buy the soft 1 or the hard 1...

seriously need recommendation, i hope u all wont sweat after see my noobie post.. i am a low low low budget user and i don't need BOM BOM 1... just wanna increase a little bit performance.. so that the song i listened can be better coz sometime the same song i listen in my computer is nice but in my car is not that nice..

should i change or should i keep the thing i have now?

thanks for reading my post and i hope u wont faint after u read this topic.. because i am seriously i big noobie here...

Your budget around how much bro?

After reading the whole long post i think you just need 1 component set and amp to support it thats all

I'm having almost what u have.. having pioneer cd player as well, forgot what model, but just the lowest-end cd player bought 2 years ago.. Using the same stock speaker that u have, but i've added a home theater tweeter (Dun ask me how many amp/watt, i dunno, just take from the used spoilt speaker) at the back, just to add more crispy sound.. Ad surprisingly I found the whole setup quite ok.. Any expert can explain here?

About your PLUEK PLUEK at the front speakers, try to change the FF setting, put more power to rear speaker and lesser at the front.. My setup as below, but sometimes depends on the cd quality also...

Bass +6
Treble +6
Balance 0
FF -3 or +3 (i forgot) - Just more to the rear speaker
SLR +2 (Depends on the cd, adjust it similar to your fav. radio)
Loud ON

I got tweeter at the back, so more power to the rear speaker may not work nicely to u, but at least solve your PLUEK PLUEK problem...kekeke...

Added : I change the Bass and Treble intermittently depending on CD.....

My Kelisa front speaker changed after 3 months I brought new car..HEHE...so I don't have this problem.

For your low budget case, try to find low RMS coxial or component which can be powered by HU. Maybe you can try Impact component which need low RMS. but don't hope can give u great performance because it work without amplifier.

erm.. not more than.. RM150? is it possible? hahaha.. sorry.. student here..



1 component set means? sorry bro, newbie ehre.. component set means 1 pair tweeter and 1 pair front speaker? amp what kind of amp? those need to hide underseat 1? how much? low budget ehre..



i now using BASS +2, treble +4 other all 0 and loud on, coz i dunno what MID SLR and other means.. oni know FAD and BAL, haha.. my rear speaker have tweeter also. i think ur speaker is really almost same with me la.. haha..



sorry bro, dun und what is RMS coaxial, i think is cable right? hmm.. impact component is what? if wan good must need AMP?

Component set has a pair of tweeter and a pair of speaker for the front. You do not need to hide under the chair just change the old 1. Better component set has cross over and it cost around 300 - 400 for a normal 1. If dont have crossover and inclusive of instalation you can get at 200 - 300 a set.

i selling those without component ones.... check out my post and threads...haha...for kelisa you can have a set of tweeters and speakers for as low as RM90...interested pm me..

Hard Dome Tweeter
A characteristic of some Dome tweeters in which the dome is made of some light, hard metal such as neodymium, and titanium as well as some of the more rigid plastic compounds. The differences in reproduction between hard ad soft dome tweeters are present, but very subtle. The essential difference is in the higher frequencies that are often reproduced by hard domes, up to 25kHz or more. Since many people tend to have acoustic sensitivity that is sharply reduced or rolls off at 12 to 15 kHz, this may not be an advantage.

Silk Dome Tweeter
Dome tweeters in which the dome is composed of a treated soft silk like material. This is a design that is much less susceptible to mechanical deformation, and yet yields a fairly smooth response over the extent of its range.

from google : link1 link2

RMS mean continue power to drive speaker nowaday ICE product focus on RMS.
Coxial mean 2 way speaker with the tweeter at the center of speaker.
Impact is a brand which produce ICE product.. heard a fen say its component easy to drive by HU.

If you don't need amp, I advice you find a component with 15 to 20 watt RMS.

where to find such power component? hehe...

mayb find a maximum 50w rms... tht would drivable by the HU... but loose a bit of the actually quality... hehe... "bo bian" wait till got money for a amp lo...

cheers...

just now went to visit the audio shop, boss recommend me to take a set of component set,
with my low budget, she recommend me 3 set,
1. Clarion midbass+tweeter RM280
2. blaupunkt midbass + tweeter RM280
3. Critical Mass(china brand i think) midbass + tweeter with crossover RM350
the price is with installation

is it ok? thinking of taking the 1 with crossover coz it seem good.. but doubting about the sound quality.. any recommendation?

clarion sound quality shud be quite ok la..but the price abit ...too cheap for clarion if u mentioned with crossovers and tweeters!

oo. nono.. the clarion and blaupunkt dun have crossover 1, oni have speaker and tweeter.. oni the china brand come with crossover.. that's why i dunno which to buy.. hehe

Don't have crossover mean it is coxial speaker only not component.
RM350 can find Helix Blue 62 Component

oh.. sorry sorry.. is coaxial speaker paiseh.. noob here. erm.. helix blue 62 ah? from where 1? i cant see this brand in the shop wor.. she have those italy brand also.. but i dun think i can see helix blue 62.. RM350 can get it with crossover ady?

you planning to add amplifier to your set up?

erm.. i think not so fast yet.. plan to get a component set 1st, then after that save money again and buy an amp.. the taukeh told me now buy component set next time add amp also can.. so recommend me buy a better 1 then next time wont need to change when buying amp..
whyyou ask so?

cause IMO if u not going for amp, no need component lor..the difference not very noticeable.
unless you want to go hard core then ok la..

i recommend you debetz component.
quite ok and affordable.
I installed mine 4 yrs ago n now still no problem.

About RM240 i think at that time.

Helix is from Germany which is little brother od Brax...
Last time saw at Penang Helix Blue 62 component sold RM350 la...

haha.1st time i hear critical mass is lousy chinna brand..

sorry.. i am noob, coz the boss told me is china brand.. but i dunno is good 1 or lousy 1 la.. u know about this brand?

hehe... critical mass made some good tube pre-amp, subs, and also amps if not the best... but they manufactured all these in china... hence it was always called a chinese brand... not very popular brand also... because there are not publicity done from them...

however... if you are planning to get an amp next time... then the helix blue 62 is worth the money... feed them enough power then its clarity will blow you away...

anyway... happy hunting...

ooo.. means they didn't make good component set? hahaha

helix blue 62 ah.. i found few shops they also dun have wor.. do u know around KL PJ where can get helix blue 62? if really so good.. RM350 is really worth it.. any model number? or all component made by them is good?

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Added on November 13, 2007, 8:06 pm

today look around at eneos, still cannot find helix, oni saw Clarion and roger's , clarion dun have crossover, with HU testing already enough power, so i think it's not good for adding amp next time.. 1 more shop recommend me JENSEN component.. but cannot test
the rogers 1 without amp HU not enough power to push it.. but the person plug into the amp.. the bass suddenly come out very clearly.. is it if change need to change 1 shot component and amp all add together is best? is it a compulsary to have a SUB? i dun plan to get a sub.. is it important? gonna faint..