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crazymouse_yyh
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The old thread is here
Gerbils Hut V5, I wont bite you, I wont stink either!

General Information of Mongolian Gerbils:

The Mongolian Gerbil (Meriones unguiculatus) is widely kept as pets. They come in a variety of colours, which makes them stand out from their close cousin, the common brown rat. Gerbils are very friendly, sociable, intelligent, entertaining, lively, and curious animals. They rarely bite and are almost odourless. Mongolian gerbils make excellent pets for they are diurnal, meaning they are active during the day, taking short naps and snoozes in between play.

One important fact to know,
You CANNOT pull their tails or it will come off. No, gerbils are not lizards, they come off coz their tails have very sensitive nerves and skin, pulling hard can detached the bone and tear the skin, resulting in the lost of a tail.

Origin
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Gerbils in captivity make great beginner pets. They rarely bite at all, have little to no odour and are economical to keep in the long run. Once a while, gerbils can get curious so they do tend to nip and test their surroundings. Nipping is normally not painful, only bites are painful and sometimes bloody but there is no need to be scared of gerbils for they rarely bite.

Single or a Pair?
By nature, gerbils are social creatures, meaning the should never be kept as single animals. Gerbils that live alone have nothing to do, no aim in life and they will just go on eating and sleeping, becoming overweight and depressed, and will be destructive by chewing on everything they find, dig at the tank's corners the whole day without stop, show nervousness and other unhealthy activities. This is why WE RECOMMEND to get gerbils in pairs. Gerbils are colony animals. They need to feel safe and secure in a family. It is delightful to see gerbils in a pair or a small clan. They will groom each other, play wrestling, sleep together and eat together. When in a bigger group say more than 2 gerbils, they will set their own Hierarchy, having a dominant gerbil doing most of the activities first, then followed by the rest. The dominant gerbil will then put everyone in place and make sure that every gerbil knows his or her place in the clan.

Gerbil Behaviour:

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How to keep gerbils?
There are many caresheets available on the Internet for research, so do read up as this is just a basic guide.

Gerbils do not do well in cages; therefore the best housing for gerbils is an aquarium or tank. The housing needs are quite different from hamsters and other rodent pets.

Important stuff to have before getting a gerbil:

1.5ft Aquarium with lid- you can get plastic or glass, plastic is easier to clean. The bigger, the better. (rm30 to rm40 for plastic) DO NOT CAGE THEM! Examples:
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Hamster staple food- A good basic staple would be Habitrail Staple, but the best in the market that gives very good results would be Prestige and Harry Hamster. Only these 2 brands will give the best nutrition and variety to a gerbil's diet.

Treats- Wooden chews, peanuts, dog biscuits and dried stale bread are great treats.

Water bottle- They need a bottle but if you don't want them to tear the bottle up, searh the internet for tips on making a bottle guard or cage. Gerbils do not need much water if you feed them fruits and vege often but it is still very important to attach a bottle with fresh water for the gerbils.

Vege and fruits- Important to have in their diet. Give mustard greens(Sawi/Choy Sum), apple, carrots, pear, french beans, lettuce. PUMPKIN makes an excellent treat!!! It deworms the intestines as well.

Toys- Gerbils love wooden stuff to chew, cardboard box to chew and glass cups and small clay flower pots to play in. Do not buy plastic toys coz they will chew them and you will waste your money. Plastic can also be dangerous when eaten.

Hide Box- Gerbils like to sleep in hide boxes. You can DIY one from an old coconut shell, buy a wooden one or plainly make one out from wooden ice cream sticks and PVA glue. Clay or glass Aroma burners work very well but make sure you buy 1 that can fit a gerbil inside.

Wood Shavings and Wood Chips- No pine or cedar, please use aspen shavings or chipsi wood shavings. Pine and Cedar will cause breathing problems and watery eyes. Wood Chips are a good substitute if you can't find proper wood shavings.

Timothy Hay- Gerbils love hay. They chew it, build nest with it and sleep in it.

Alfalfa Hay- High in protein and is still good for gerbils to nibble and chew and make their nest.

Sand Bath- When your gerbil's fur looks ruffled and dull, give them a sand bath. You can get this cleaning sand that is for hamsters, works well and will make a gerbil look all velvety and clean looking. Recommended brands are Sluis, Delikate Snowy bathing sand, Charlie Chinchilla bathing sand.

Bedding Hay/Straw- You can try Russel Hay or Sluis Comfort Hay. These hay are used to build nest... cheaper than Timothy and Alfalfa hay.... and smells nice too.

How about breeding?

Please see the link below... breeding is not easy as it will cost money and time and space. So think carefully before breeding. Also, it takes a lot of studying of the genetics to get the best colour quality from a pair. Some gerbils can only produce black and agouti pups.... so that is why the genetics have to be studied. Breeding needs a goal, to be a breeder one must never think of money but the goal of getting new colours or promoting the pet. If any information needed on breeding, PM Nezumitaro, jaswwp or me(crazymouse_yyh)

Important TIPS

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Useful Websites:

http://www.sensi-media.com/gerbil/domestic.htm - thanks to Jaswwp

http://www.gerbils.co.uk/

http://www.abcgerbils.com/

http://www.agsgerbils.org/

http://www.petermaas.nl/gerbils/english.htm

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/e...bils/colors.htm

http://www.gerbilbreeding.com/gene.htm - thanks to Nezumitaro

http://home.wtal.de/ehr/gerbils/colors.htm

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/6961/index.html
nezumitaro
SEXING GERBIL:
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WE HAVE GERBILS IN VARIOUS COLOURS AS BELOW:

Black Eyed, White Belly

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Black Eyed, Solid Belly

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Ruby Eyed, White Belly


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Ruby Eyed, Solid Belly

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More:
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jaswwp
1. How to DIY a water bottle hanger

One of the popular problems faced by gerbil owners is the issue of how to provide a source of water for gerbils. Although a dish can be used, but most of the time the gerbil will bury the dish in shavings, making the bedding wet. It is important for a gerbil to have water especially if it is pregnant or nursing. Gerbils have been known to reabsorb fetuses or even eat a pup to get the water it needs if water is not provided.

There are many types of bottles available on the market. If you are able to find a bottle with those suckers or those that stick to the tank wall then it is good, however sometimes the gerbils will chew the suckers or the water bottle itself.
If you have the type of bottle that points downwards, you can hang it from the tank cover, however if you have the normal type of bottle, the kind without a small hole at the top for you to hang wire through..you might have to make a bottle holder yourself.

Example:
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Water bottle with no hole at the top provided.
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Water bottle with hole provided at the top
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2. How to make a split cage

Why need a split cage? Note that gerbils have very short memories and can forget their friends in 3 days or even less. If you have to seperate your gerbils because of breeding but wish to reintroduce them at a later date, you should use a split cage so that they can still see and smell each other. New gerbils can also be introduced in this way for a few days, so that there is less chance of fighting when you finally put them together. Remember that gerbils can fight to the death, dont think that they look so loving and tame to their friends, once they see an unknown gerbil they can fight viciously and cause very serious wounds. I'm speaking from experience here.

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This is the simplest split cage you can make for a plastic tank. The sides are rubber hose split into half, the purpose is so that you can wedge the whole thing into the tank, and it wont move or slip. Remember that plastic tanks are wider at the top than at the bottom, so you have to take that into account when cutting and bending the wire mesh. Try to use metal wire mesh with small holes, with big holes the gerbils will keep on chewing at it, and hurt their noses. Make sure it is tall enough, gerbils can climb up the split and crawl through any small spaces at the top.
3. Alternative to tanks

Gerbils given birth and you want to seperate the dad from the mum? Or perhaps your gerbil has fallen sick and you want to seperate it from the other healthy ones temporarily. If you can't get a tank at short notice, you can use a storage box

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This is just to give a general idea. Note that the top should be securely fastened, else the gerbil will escape. Usually I put the storage box lid on top covering half the wire, and something heavy on top, but more pegs should do the trick as well.

nezumitaro
Basic Cost:

Plastic Tank: 1.5ft - $28; 2ft -$38
Bedding (recommend Chipsi Classic/Super or Corn Cob): $18 - $25
Hay (Alfafa or Thimoty): $12 - $20
Food: Hamster food. $8 - $20+ depand on brand. (Nezumitaro's Gerbil love Prestige Hamster Nature $21.)
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Water Bottle: $7 - $20 depand on brand.
Toy: Paper Box, Cardboard, Manila Cardboard, toilet roll / kitchen towel tube.


Home Sweet Home:

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Babymoli
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Intro no need bigger room. Just need a split cage. The tank must have only bedding, water bottle & food bowl. Other things must be out. Change your bedding & wash your tank with detergent before intro-ing. Put the new one inside the split cage & inside the tank. Once you are free, you can start intro them by placing them on a place around 2ft wide such as table one by one. First will be the new fella, then the old fella which you feel is the less dominant one. Watch them carefully. If you see them sniffing each other & don't move, use a cloth to separate them. Once you feel they can get along after few minutes, put in another & repeat the steps till the last one in. If you see the new one like panic then must keep an eye on him/her. If others go sniff him/her & he/she runs away, others will chase him/her. So separate them with cloth.


Split Cage:

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zoejehuty
small bottle design, put at the corner of tank, this one is for small tank.
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this one is i put for the habitrail cover
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this is the design for big bottle hanging on the corner of tank, a bit ugly design i think, but works for me.
see there is a like door like that in the lower part, that is to cover the lower part of the bottle from bite
coz b4 this i didnt put the cover up, then jus side cage only, end up they bite the lower part of bottles.
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user posted image >>> this design is the one that use on below picture

see the white masking tape there, is the place where my gerbs bite it, got one small hole.
so i put masking tape on it then use uhu gam to glue on the side on the masking tape.
coz i duwan put the gam on the hole direct coz sacred later the gam suck inside the bottle.
if u carefully see on top of the bottle, there still got cage protect it, that is extra one, not from the original design.
this is to prevent from biting the top of the bottle, b4 this i got put also, but then jus cover a bit, now put almost cover the whole top
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crazymouse_yyh
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yuying1
Yay...... Congratulation on thread v6.....
babymoli
Congratz on V6... rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
kembara
version 6 already...long time i am not active in this forum ma...already changes thread..
kamikazwe
walao...congrats on ver6...will be posting new pics when i get new gerbs
BlueHeng
Hey I have a question, can gerbils die of heart attack? Especially when old age? My siblings like to scare them by clapping and making them jump. They think it's funny.. blargh..
kamikazwe
haha...bluheng my bro oso like to do that...everytime he do that he will sure get something flying 2 his head...i oso dunno la...but they kinda scared and terkejut by clapping...
holyghost
walao ... v6 ady .... gongxi gongxi
White Palace
Gerbil thread is really popular at LYN unlike other pet forums.

Congrats & hope gerbil community will grow!
crazymouse_yyh
Ok, did I miss anyone out in the contribution? If you guys got information, just post, I will adjust it for the 1st page yah. Heheheh.... and you guys can adjust your post too, add updates or whatever.
zoejehuty
here is the video that my gerbs run on the wheels, a bit noisy there and low quality since i jus record with my phone.

Gerbils on DIY wheels
BlueHeng
QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Nov 5 2007, 09:57 PM)
here is the video that my gerbs run on the wheels, a bit noisy there and low quality since i jus record with my phone.

Gerbils on DIY wheels
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eh why up there got one tank with only 1 gerbil? He sick ah? Nice wheel btw.. rclxms.gif notworthy.gif thumbup.gif
nezumitaro
waww hun u very ging wor can change all the things lol!! hun put zoe diy wheel up also lah..
zoejehuty
ya lo, respect with hun skill, change all the thing, i was surprise seeing that...
blueheng > the one the the tank is male, that's the only male i have, all other tank is female, so cant mix lo.
the wheel now still on test, everything working, jus part of the silicon bitten off, but then now they like know that is for use, so they didnt bite any of it liao.
BlueHeng
icic... hehe beta stage wheel. nice.. buy another male for that gerbil to play with lor.. see him so pity.. haha..
xenon koh
why must make a new thread when reach 2500 posts?

haha anyway.....why my gerbs like to smell each other's butt? so weird biggrin.gif
nezumitaro
check check is it their bro mah... heheh..
the 2 felas ok?
zoejehuty
wan to get male one, but then me here cant get, everytime got also female.
since that time hun said she there got put up some adoption, then wait there lo.
dien
congrate..
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new thread already..
akachester
QUOTE(xenon koh @ Nov 6 2007, 04:27 PM)
why must make a new thread when reach 2500 posts?

haha anyway.....why my gerbs like to smell each other's butt? so weird biggrin.gif
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LOL..Because the forum said so? Nah, its because its going to get over crowded with too many post around so i guess its easier to manage to create a new thread..

Ah...V6 already. The community is growing really fast now. Congrats to everyone and one request :

More pictures...Yikes rclxm9.gif
xenon koh
QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Nov 6 2007, 04:32 PM)
check check is it their bro mah... heheh..
the 2 felas ok?
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check by smelling the butt? haha. yeah they are ok. here is some pics..
babymoli
Hahahaha.. Cute chubby fella. That fella so notty, trying to escape ar...
xenon koh
he just jump up, but not dare to jump down. biggrin.gif
dien
xenon koh, cute chubby notti fella.. laugh.gif

haha.. i also have the kura-kura burner.. tongue.gif
crazymouse_yyh
today I went to Superpets to see their gerbils.... err... their display gerbils kinda bad setup.

You know what bedding their use? Aquarium gravel!!!! Yes, that's right, those aquarium gravel that is like 0.5cm size.... pity, so hard and cannot dig to burrow. 2 gerbils in the display tank, with some driftwood and rocks.... kinda sad. I wonder how to absorb the pee and poo.... summore the way they clean.... bleh... I walk into the petshop, can faint.... the air is like cat litter and pee smell....

Then at the back got also a tank with agouti gerbils.... and WW, Syrians and Robos.... the Syrains are not as nice as those at Pet Shack or from Foo.... kinda thin. Their Robos look scruffy.... the WW don't look too good either.... but the price for a gerbil there is RM48!!!!

Also, beware, that petshop sure will hunt to buy gerbils from breeders.... called me and ask if I can supply or not... Dream on lah, I won't supply to petshops. I see the condition... sigh.. i won't go there anymore.
xenon koh
QUOTE(dien @ Nov 7 2007, 08:01 PM)
xenon koh, cute chubby notti fella..  laugh.gif

haha.. i also have the kura-kura burner..  tongue.gif
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yeah thanks.....but is it too fat ad? he is way too chubby i guess.

bout the kura-kura burner, hehe got it from RM5 shop eh? cheap and practical.
dien
QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 7 2007, 11:06 PM)
today I went to Superpets to see their gerbils.... err... their display gerbils kinda bad setup.

You know what bedding their use? Aquarium gravel!!!! Yes, that's right, those aquarium gravel that is like 0.5cm size.... pity, so hard and cannot dig to burrow. 2 gerbils in the display tank, with some driftwood and rocks.... kinda sad. I wonder how to absorb the pee and poo.... summore the way they clean.... bleh... I walk into the petshop, can faint.... the air is like cat litter and pee smell....

Then at the back got also a tank with agouti gerbils.... and WW, Syrians and Robos.... the Syrains are not as nice as those at Pet Shack or from Foo.... kinda thin. Their Robos look scruffy.... the WW don't look too good either.... but the price for a gerbil there is RM48!!!!

Also, beware, that petshop sure will hunt to buy gerbils from breeders.... called me and ask if I can supply or not... Dream on lah, I won't supply to petshops. I see the condition... sigh.. i won't go there anymore.
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where is Superpets??
i think we should ban it..

QUOTE(xenon koh @ Nov 7 2007, 11:14 PM)
yeah thanks.....but is it too fat ad? he is way too chubby i guess.

bout the kura-kura burner, hehe got it from RM5 shop eh? cheap and practical.
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i bought the kura-kura from hinode shop..
agree.. cheep and practical.. thumbup.gif
crazymouse_yyh
Superpets is near pet shack, sunway mentari also.... well, I think the bad thing is the ventilation lah.... coz they seal up the whole shop for air cond, with all the cats.... and i mean MANY cats, the place smells like cat litter and pee. To the staff and owner, they are used to it so won't suspect got smell but to new comer.... can pengsan lah hahahah....

The tanks for the gerbils and hamsters are spacious.... but just the display set up makes me don't like them.
babymoli
QUOTE(xenon koh @ Nov 7 2007, 10:14 PM)
yeah thanks.....but is it too fat ad? he is way too chubby i guess.

bout the kura-kura burner, hehe got it from RM5 shop eh? cheap and practical.
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Not really lar. My sumos even chubby than yours. Foo's gerbils all can grow round round & nice to squeeze. ^^
holyghost
QUOTE(babymoli @ Nov 8 2007, 07:26 PM)
Not really lar. My sumos even chubby than yours. Foo's gerbils all can grow round round & nice to squeeze. ^^
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squeeze? yeeerrrr ... wait u squeeze squeeze until the eyes pop out ... laugh.gif
jaswwp
QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 7 2007, 10:06 PM)
today I went to Superpets to see their gerbils.... err... their display gerbils kinda bad setup.

You know what bedding their use? Aquarium gravel!!!! Yes, that's right, those aquarium gravel that is like 0.5cm size.... pity, so hard and cannot dig to burrow. 2 gerbils in the display tank, with some driftwood and rocks.... kinda sad. I wonder how to absorb the pee and poo.... summore the way they clean.... bleh... I walk into the petshop, can faint.... the air is like cat litter and pee smell....

Then at the back got also a tank with agouti gerbils.... and WW, Syrians and Robos.... the Syrains are not as nice as those at Pet Shack or from Foo.... kinda thin. Their Robos look scruffy.... the WW don't look too good either.... but the price for a gerbil there is RM48!!!!

Also, beware, that petshop sure will hunt to buy gerbils from breeders.... called me and ask if I can supply or not... Dream on lah, I won't supply to petshops. I see the condition... sigh.. i won't go there anymore.
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oh, the superpets manage to find gerbils supplier adi ar..... I think they really know nothing about gerbils la, pity the gerbils.
zoejehuty
some of my gerbs picture...

nice wall ???
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nice companion... nice pillow there...
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u r a good gal to become my pillow...
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nezumitaro
lol hun u also visit the shop ah? i stay so near never can find my way to go lol.. i still don tknwo where is it tongue.gif
crazymouse_yyh
QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Nov 9 2007, 09:09 AM)
some of my gerbs picture...

nice wall ???
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nice companion...        nice pillow there...
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u r a good gal to become my pillow...
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HAhaha... nice pictures of your gerbils.
I'm gonna get the adoption gerbils soon. Once with me, you can get them lah.

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Nov 9 2007, 09:49 AM)
lol hun u also visit the shop ah? i stay so near never can find my way to go lol.. i still don tknwo where is it tongue.gif
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Ah? I ask Joan loh... that Friday I was at Pet Shack.... then I walk to superpets, wondering how nice they looked like coz I saw their website before and wanted to compare.... but sigh... sad sad place lah for the animals there. Sad for human also coz the smell and air... yucks hahahah.
zoejehuty
thanks, once u get the adoption then u let me know lo...
xenon koh
QUOTE(babymoli @ Nov 8 2007, 07:26 PM)
Not really lar. My sumos even chubby than yours. Foo's gerbils all can grow round round & nice to squeeze. ^^
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oh like this no problem ah? hehe wait after i try to squeeze them and see tongue.gif
dien
QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Nov 9 2007, 11:02 AM)
Ah? I ask Joan loh... that Friday I was at Pet Shack.... then I walk to superpets, wondering how nice they looked like coz I saw their website before and wanted to compare.... but sigh... sad sad place lah for the animals there. Sad for human also coz the smell and air... yucks hahahah.
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as orang tua-tua says..
"indah khabar dari rupa".. laugh.gif
holyghost
hello ... anybody home?? all gerbs gone hibernating?
zoejehuty
ya lo, seem like not much ppl here, hmm....
dien
want to ask here..
why gerbils suddenly "hentak-hentak" their legs..
zoejehuty
sometimes because of scared, maybe because u jus suddenly appear in front of them then they being shock...
dien
QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Nov 11 2007, 02:51 AM)
sometimes because of scared, maybe because u jus suddenly appear in front of them then they being shock...
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i think it not the cause..
other reasons??

sometimes i just lay down, and they suddenly hentak legs..
macam kawat kaki pulak.. hehe.. tongue.gif
BlueHeng
QUOTE(dien @ Nov 11 2007, 01:22 AM)
want to ask here..
why gerbils suddenly "hentak-hentak" their legs..
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thumping? I guess it's normal for gerbils to do that. They do it when they're excited or to alert others of danger. hahah.. so far i never see my 2 gerbils do that before though.
dien
QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Nov 11 2007, 03:01 AM)
thumping? I guess it's normal for gerbils to do that. They do it when they're excited or to alert others of danger. hahah.. so far i never see my 2 gerbils do that before though.
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oo like that..
i always see mine doing that..
when one do that, others will keep quite.. laugh.gif
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