Hi, hope this thread not been created yet.

This PenangFon will start their 2Mbps fiber optic ADSL service on 1st October, 2005 but only available to 4 condominium in Penang.

Guess wat, the charge only RM60 for 2Mbps!!! And no tel line is needed.

Streamyx will doom !!

More info pls visit www.penangfon.com

Dunno when this service will come to my place If got many good feedback on this broadband and it expand its service area, then i'll definitely close the Screamyx

So, any comment on this broadband service? Will the Terrorkom allow they to be so competitive in term of price?

According to their website, they'll pull a cable from the riser until your house unit. Something about direct connection, not too sure how they're implementing it.

It might be good news for those living in fibre-installed condominiums (like me, can't install Streamyx because of fibre, bla bla...). I hope they roll out to more locations soon, but then again, I probably won't be at the condo by then, who knows hehe.

If im not mistaken 2mbps for the whole building.....not 2mbps dedicated to u..we have a lot of this kind of bband service in the klang valley...

and they s**k...


wahaha.....eventhough dsl shared..but tmnet have enough capacity from dslam to the net...this fon thing.....2mbps from the building to the internet..it is interesting how they twist this..

2Mbps upload and download...SDSL..are they talking about SDSL heree

Ethernet-To-The-Home Broadband (ETTH)
2 Mbps Upload/Download Unlimited Internet Access

walau..goodlah to share linux isos ,

not sure if its true..backbone how , need to do traceroute

11 ocenet-ntt.arc.net.my (203.115.208.90) 239.918 ms 208.296 ms 189.384 ms
13 202.73.10.131 (202.73.10.131) 149.595 ms 206.787 ms 1461.151 ms

(cut the whole damn traceroute down)

so , backbone is not by TMNet nor JARING..eh...ARC.net.my , must check their website...BTW , those ARC.net seem to offer dedicated ISDN Connection to home users...hmmmm

I see that their transit providers are NTT/Arcnet and Pacific Internet (of Singapore). This will be good news to their subscribers, as it means that they won't have to contend for the same congested circuits the Streamyx users are.

looks like ppl will be getting dial-up speed when everybody in the building uses all the available bandwidth..

heh penangfon is such a tiny company compare to TMnet . they won't be able to compete.. if the speed suck, penangfon will be doomed.. LoL

BUT , as wKkaY , they have good transit providers , so...backbone very goodlah (just like JARING)...But now here is the question , will they allow or not..sure TM won't but the goverment..they said wan broadband..ppl must use broadband..this and that...go for wireless..etc....

if it's 2Mbps per home, then it will be a breakthrough.. and of course, is cheap.

when i read everything back , FAQ from everything

Those guys are "kutuking" streamyx seriously

see their words








In other terms , they are telling you guys in-directly that how bad streamyx..hehehehe...a bb company that understands you !

Great to hear this.

just dont be over excited la...biase la..new things come out..wa this good la..very good la...

see hows jaring now

yeah..it will end up like JARING

first , everything nice..BT full sppedlah , walau...then uncaplah 8Mbps full can get..suddenly , now fixed at 1mbps and no bting , p2ping around , with this an that caps on it

hopefully those people don't be jaring number 2

They better provide good service then, if not not good after 1~2 years kena back double from what TM is getting

ohoh...
c'mon... FRESH HOPE!
sure block BT wan... BT very hard to kautim... cause too much leechers...
i dun mind if they block it.. with Fiber-Optic woot.. ping will be 30ms? 10 ms?
GOOD FOR GAMIN!

but will they come to Klang Valley?
good question eh?

Penang only?

but they got office in PJ ade...
Eveyone who wan try this pls do the SURVEY!
if alot can get at ur area!

if they can drag a line to my house in Kulim which is neighbour with Penang mainland, I sure will jumped ship from The Screamyx.

lol.. who wont? cheaper.. better speed... fibre optic = good ping!

let's just see how it goes first.
don't be too happy, for all you know it cannot deliver it's promises (i'll be negative first, wake me up when the promises are delivered)

FYI - doing a traceroute to the PenangFON's website isn't the best way to figure out their backbone. In fact, I do believe that 202.73.10.131 is located well within Klang Valley. And I know for a fact that NTT/ArcNet does not have any point-of-presence in Penang. But of course, that isn't to say that they're not using ArcNet for their backbone, although it should be pointed out that all traffic from PenangFON will ultimately be routed down to the Klang Valley....

Yups, husagi.

I checked their upstreams through the RADB, which hopefully presents more faithful information. This provider's ASN is 24321 (OCE Sdn Bhd).

Reply from 202.73.10.131: bytes=32 time=2358ms TTL=53
Reply from 202.73.10.131: bytes=32 time=1995ms TTL=53
Reply from 202.73.10.131: bytes=32 time=2021ms TTL=53
Reply from 202.73.10.131: bytes=32 time=2009ms TTL=53

Why getting so high pings?? I am sure it's because of TMnets..
and i do hope that this company will grow one day as they are giving much more then streamyx..
but when will the come to KL?

tracert from myloca(tmnet data centre) and singnet internet exchanges also show this bloody 2000ms ping.

myloca
1 202.75.33.126 (202.75.33.126) 0.463 ms 0.262 ms 0.241 ms
2 202.75.32.13 (202.75.32.13) 0.251 ms 0.172 ms 0.166 ms
3 203.106.205.37 (203.106.205.37) 0.499 ms 0.792 ms 0.544 ms
4 202.188.126.134 (202.188.126.134) 0.627 ms 0.551 ms 0.747 ms
5 218.208.72.238 (218.208.72.238) 1.329 ms 2.621 ms 2.106 ms
6 cbj-br2-fe1-0-0.arc.net.my (203.115.225.3) 1.674 ms 1.487 ms 1.802 ms
7 mrs-ar1-s2-0.arc.net.my (203.115.224.106) 2.922 ms 3.002 ms 2.841 ms
8 ocenet-ntt.arc.net.my (203.115.208.90) 1804.088 ms 1807.842 ms 1788.621 ms
9 202.73.8.130 (202.73.8.130) 1791.782 ms 1916.682 ms 1738.542 ms
10 202.73.10.131 (202.73.10.131) 1846.765 ms 1802.450 ms 1797.986 ms

singnet ix
1 203.208.155.2 (203.208.155.2) 0.412 ms 0.287 ms 0.282 ms
2 ge-2-0-0.sngc3-cr1.ix.singtel.com (203.208.172.153) 0.523 ms 0.453 ms 0.466 ms
3 so-0-1-0.laxeq-cr1.ix.singtel.com (203.208.182.86) 170.481 ms 163.904 ms 170.469 ms
4 203.208.172.106 (203.208.172.106) 163.808 ms 170.506 ms 163.980 ms
5 12.118.42.17 (12.118.42.17) 170.342 ms 170.478 ms 170.353 ms
6 tbr2-p011202.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.82.58) 171.752 ms 165.783 ms 169.165 ms
7 ggr1-p3100.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.11.222) 163.522 ms 164.166 ms 170.469 ms
8 p16-0-2-2.r20.lsanca03.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.109) 164.423 ms 170.667 ms 170.699 ms
9 p64-0-0-0.r21.lsanca03.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.31) 164.380 ms 170.828 ms 164.444 ms
10 p16-1-1-3.r20.mlpsca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.120) 186.561 ms 186.476 ms 181.255 ms
11 p64-1-3-0.r20.tokyjp01.jp.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.42) 281.358 ms 281.510 ms 282.626 ms
12 ge-2-0-0.r00.tokyjp01.jp.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.130) 280.342 ms 295.951 ms 298.383 ms
13 p1-0-0-2.r00.kslrml01.my.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.162) 376.118 ms 375.680 ms 376.751 ms
14 p1-0-1-0.a00.kslrml01.my.ra.verio.net (129.250.16.66) 378.363 ms p1-0-1-2.a00.kslrml01.my.ra.verio.net (129.250.16.46) 390.578 ms 378.254 ms
15 cbj-br2-fe6-1-1.arc.net.my (203.78.193.2) 381.754 ms 376.537 ms 408.268 ms
16 mrs-ar1-s2-0.arc.net.my (203.115.224.106) 392.315 ms 378.328 ms 395.765 ms
17 ocenet-ntt.arc.net.my (203.115.208.90) 2450.271 ms 2507.996 ms 2217.345 ms
18 202.73.8.130 (202.73.8.130) 2398.454 ms 2229.442 ms 2268.465 ms
19 202.73.10.131 (202.73.10.131) 2321.167 ms 2322.984 ms 2436.577 ms

i use streamyx like any other.

http://www.fiberhome.net/survey

http://www.fiberhome.net/

Yups. I dug that one up too last night. If you dig further, you'll find that OCE has ASP/NSP/NFP individual licenses to operate broadband services. So this implies that PenangFON, is in fact, a service riding on top of OCE's infrastructure.

Unfortunately, all these don't really tell us everything about PenangFON's backbone per say, unless you have some clue to the IP addresses assigned to the apartments whose services are provided by PenangFON.

But anyway, I won't be surprised if OCE had laid a fiber link from Penang to NTT-MSC in Cyberjaya (or one of their POPs)...

is it everyone gettin 2mb or d whole ppl stayin at apartment sharing 2mb speed??

w00t, good news. Hopefully it will expand to my area.

hopefully, it will reach my town........pray....pray.........

from what they say..
they like kinda wanna take over streamyx... kik their arses... lol...

so i guess it will be covered everywhere.. juz not now... maybe by end of year.. klang valley.. XD

If they do, I'm willing to bet they have most of streamyx customer's blessing

unless of course they decide to implement a capping system, then.......

We already have similar setups in our country by companies like MyKris and Bizsurf.Services offered by small startups like these will never be able to compete with the likes of TM and Jaring unless they are prepared to do charity.They will never be able to subscribe sufficient bandwidths from Tier-1 providers across the globe.What they will normally do is they'll buy lines from available bandwidth wholesalers that are available in our country and resell them.

There is no way they can beat TMnet/Jaring in terms cost/bandwidth reliability ratio.Even Jaring's ADSL which is actually a customer of TM's Wholesale unit has to charge more for their ADSL service(RM99 for first 2GB) and this provider provides 2mbps for RM60?

They NEVER said anything that their lines are dedicated/not shared if you have read their FAQ properly.It makes them even more unprofessional to compare DSL with their technology and it seems that their FAQ was written by some amateur.At that kind of pricing,there is a high probability that they'll oversell their bandwidths to make ends meet.It's not a new idea in our market.If it's ain't profitable we won't call this business.

That's why I would like to conclude that our telecoms sector is saturating today though it may seem to be interesting to many.

hm... anyway.. lets juz wait and see...

the ping is back to normal.

myloca
1 202.75.33.126 (202.75.33.126) 1.324 ms 0.239 ms 0.242 ms
2 202.75.32.13 (202.75.32.13) 0.301 ms 0.174 ms 0.174 ms
3 203.106.205.37 (203.106.205.37) 0.811 ms 2.521 ms 1.925 ms
4 202.188.126.134 (202.188.126.134) 1.588 ms 1.064 ms 1.070 ms
5 218.208.72.238 (218.208.72.238) 2.270 ms 2.085 ms 1.610 ms
6 cbj-br2-fe1-1-1.arc.net.my (203.115.225.195) 1.530 ms 1.623 ms 1.524 ms
7 mrs-ar1-s2-0.arc.net.my (203.115.224.106) 3.517 ms 3.832 ms 2.989 ms
8 ocenet-ntt.arc.net.my (203.115.208.90) 14.253 ms 9.864 ms 12.778 ms
9 202.73.8.130 (202.73.8.130) 16.043 ms 52.167 ms 42.780 ms
10 202.73.10.131 (202.73.10.131) 28.096 ms 20.509 ms 23.694 ms


singnet internet exchanges
1 203.208.155.2 (203.208.155.2) 0.406 ms 0.287 ms 0.332 ms
2 ge-2-0-0.sngc3-cr1.ix.singtel.com (203.208.172.153) 0.546 ms 0.488 ms 0.471 ms
3 so-0-1-0.laxeq-cr1.ix.singtel.com (203.208.182.86) 170.653 ms 170.740 ms 170.561 ms
4 203.208.172.106 (203.208.172.106) 172.835 ms 166.685 ms 170.402 ms
5 12.118.42.17 (12.118.42.17) 170.362 ms 170.419 ms 170.426 ms
6 tbr2-p011202.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.82.58) 165.557 ms 167.217 ms 171.812 ms
7 ggr1-p3100.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.11.222) 163.924 ms 165.933 ms 164.45 ms
8 p16-0-2-2.r20.lsanca03.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.109) 166.327 ms 170.729 ms 164.957 ms
9 p64-0-0-0.r21.lsanca03.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.31) 164.551 ms 164.612 ms 170.860 ms
10 p16-1-1-2.r21.mlpsca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.97) 168.612 ms 184.34 ms 168.25 ms
11 p64-0-1-0.r21.tokyjp01.jp.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.206) 295.367 ms 311.353 ms 310.595 ms
12 ge-1-0-0.r00.tokyjp01.jp.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.138) 347.361 ms 311.404 ms 314.470 ms
13 p1-0-0-2.r00.kslrml01.my.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.162) 393.206 ms 413.206 ms 389.757 ms
14 p1-0-1-2.a00.kslrml01.my.ra.verio.net (129.250.16.46) 407.923 ms p1-0-1-0.a00.kslrml01.my.ra.verio.net (129.250.16.66) 393.285 ms 409.772 ms
15 cbj-br2-fe6-1-1.arc.net.my (203.78.193.2) 392.102 ms 378.635 ms 406.95 ms
16 mrs-ar1-s2-0.arc.net.my (203.115.224.106) 398.700 ms 407.649 ms 407.973 ms
17 ocenet-ntt.arc.net.my (203.115.208.90) 418.759 ms 494.751 ms 389.875 ms
18 202.73.8.130 (202.73.8.130) 433.147 ms 475.429 ms 422.114 ms
19 202.73.10.131 (202.73.10.131) 421.986 ms 449.527 ms 484.644 ms

it is just that singnet dont have peering to them so the traffic is route through US, and the ping is high!

No news about this service??

i guess so...maybe they can compete TM..who knows..MyKris uses suckmix as backbone , so pretty much its bad !

lolx... yea
but when they gonna come to klang valley!
IM WAITING!

don't forget ebuildings

man.. i juz need a cable connection... i ned to play FPS games with good ping!

i hope tis service will come!

I can't access E-Building's site anymore
www.ebuilding.com.my

What I understand is some of their previous coverage/clients have all been transfered to BizSurf.

Tried www.eb.com.my instead?

i think streamyx is quite top end already, nothing can beat it so far (coz monopoly) unless govt do something more, not only tok kok.

wah so nice....so cheap compare with RM66 + RM26 (phone monthly fee)..... and this only 512kbps ...
wah..this one is 2Mbps.....so fast....

is this 2Mbps share for whole condo ????

The fact i like it is it's Symetrical

i dun think its share...

i have to agree with dragana....gosh , 2mbps upload , who cares about the download..imagine that , what you download is what you upload

good for torrent...e.g 100kb/s download and 100kb/s upload

200kb/s download 90kb/s upload.

More like 200Kb/200Kb