wow, 2 emg users using 85 in the bridge..
is 81 really that bad? but all the review about 81 ive read so far are great review..ive even test it once, to me it sounded just fine..
i dont no, bcoz i started to play around with pups just recently..
maybe im still cannot differentiate what is a good tone n whats not..

rossie, so either 85 or 60 in the neck is ok la..
so i think im gonna go with 60 in the neck, even everdying using 60A..
anyway, thanks guys..

Again, all depends on the playing style.
I'm using the classic 81/85 combo and for my Metal playing, it suits be fine with a little bit of the "bite" the 81 is famous for.

No prob... The 81 is great if you do intend for your axe to do metal and nothing else, but for the sake of versatility, the 85 works really well in the bridge position...

yep, now im playing nothing else but metal..
maybe some hard rock, but most of the time metal..
so 81 it is..

my metal guitar also has the EMG85 in the bridge.

also a pickup thats not made for metal can be used, its just what u want.
look at mark morton of lamb of god, his guitar has two duncan '59s.
those are nowhere near metal pickups, yet they do fine.

SD Alnico II Pro can do metal just as well too

And to mess with your head further..........

Why not S.D. Livewires?

I heard alot of good stuff about it and look at Mustaine and Alexi........ They rock it HARD.

blackouts > emg

Whoops. stupid me.
I meant Blackouts.
damn...... some moderator I am, huh?

For the record, Mustaine=Livewire, Alexi=Blackouts

livewires pun metal wat

just that for actives i quite like the blackouts

hahaha, but ive decided to settle with emgs after i know there are
sifus here using them..so i cant go wrong rite..
after all, emgs are the pups designed for metal rite..
btw i like the emg design, looks kinda metal

but rite now there isnt any emg 81 stock at bentley or at woh fatt:(
so frustrating, they only got the 60..
anyone know where else guitar store that carry EMGs..

go find used ones.

Which is why you should make up the trek south to Singapore.....
LOADS of EMGs for cheap there.

try searching around for sound demos of blackouts, i'm sure you'll be more than pleased

heh

try the guitar store damansara perdana, they have the 81/85 set
and the 81 the last time i checked.


they haven't arrived in malaysia yet have they?

Not sure, don't keep up with bents or new puppies anymore

best bet is SG =/

i was told bentley d'sara has a blackout priced at RM450.

450 wt- ???!?!?!?!

I don't recall it being so expensive Evil Empire Evil Empire
tsk tsk tsk

im sure once davis SG gets stock it'll be priced at SGD125.
i remember last yr they had the dave mustaine set for SGD260.

wah, singapore, its impossible for me coz i dont even has a pasport
i think i just wait till the new stock arrive at bentley..

there isnt any used one in the forum ive searching..
why dont u guys sell to me ur 81

thanks sweettooth for the info..

n whats the market price for brand new emgs now??
ive tried asking woh fatt, they only have 60 selling at 490, the pup only..
n at bentley they sell it at 390 comes with all the quick connect wire n vol pot..
im quite confuse now..

Both 60 and 81 comes with Quik Connect as standard.
Singapore selling at S$135.
I know. I just bought it.

why single coil pickups always humming??

can sumbody tell me why..

maybe i should start a small business for myself.. since I'll be going there for further education.
every semester break, carry a few pups over to Malaysia and resell

hmmm, SGD135 is cheap but when u count in all the cost to go there..
it'll be about around the same price with here..
so i think ill just search the pups here..

If i buy a pair of pickups and do not know how to install it, shall i go to guitar store to have the luthier get it done? How much is the price range?

Don't forget the 7% sales tax in Singapore

wah, small item like the pups also kena taxed ka?
i thought u can just go buy n bring it back..
bcoz ive never been taxed when im buying stuffs from thailand..

btw, blacktrix, whats the differences btwn emg zakk wylde combo and plain 81/85 (that sell separately)?
because there's someone selling the ZW combo..
im interested..

of cos if u buy more than 2, u save alot.
eg. take EMG.
buy one in SG after tax + train fare comes up to RM415.
here bentwtfley sells for RM450.

do the math

do you mean the custom tax?
the 7% tax is GST - good and service tax i think.

Yes, I mean the Singapore Sales Tax, aka GST.

And the ZW set and the 81/85 set is the same.

oh ok, i thought ZW combo are modded version of the 81/85 ..

btw, most of the emg pups here doesnt includes prewired split shaft volume/tone control set,output jack,screws and springs and battery clip set, n do i need all those items if i wanted to change my pups or i can just use the stock one..
if i do need them, where can i get them..

The only difference of the ZW set and 85/81 are the ZW sets have longer shaft for the pots, thats bout it IIRC

uhh i think u better go check again.
it includes everything u mentioned except battery clip.

the one im talking about is used one that is selling in garage sale..
it is mention there it comes with EMG's exclusive quick connect cable only..
for 81/85 ZW set..so the package is not complete la??

basically the zw set has longer cables to facilitate LP's

Please check the EMG websites before you go any further:

Package Includes: EMG's exclusive Quik-Connect™ cables (2), 25k long shaft volume/tone controls (2), 25k split shaft volume/tone (standard) controls (2), screws & springs. Also a removable Zakk Wylde Postcard on the box and 1 EMG / Zakk signature collectable guitar pick.

ive check the emg site before, thats why im asking u guys..
because in the garage sale, that seller said the package includes
EMG's exclusive quick connect only..
there's nothing about prewired split shaft volume/tone control set,output jack,screws and springs and battery clip set..

and do i need those items if i wanted to changed my pups..

its pretty obvious then that the garage sales one isnt a full set.
obviously would mean its a used set too.

and yes, u need the pots and output jack.
u may need the screws also.

yes, im aware that pups is used set..
so, if im gonna buy that set, where can i get a hold of the pots, output jack
n battery clip..
because rite now thats the only 81/85 ive found in the market..
n its used, can saved a bit from buying a new one

just wanna ask a noob question coz im new with electric guitar.. my frens gimme one of his old guitar as a gift.. it's not one of those expensive guitar coz i never heard the brand name before (monterey mgs-1).. is it worth to change pups for a better one, or should i buy a better guitar?? i guess my really question is how important does the pups really are on a guitar??

since u say ur noob...im not sure if u can tell the difference between good and bad pickup sounds...
better just learn to play it first.

Some quick questions, which pickups sets are good or well known for down tuning guitars? I know many metal users prefer active pickups, some uses Invaders (Pepper Keenan) and of course there's DSonic (Petrucci).

And does anyone actually plays clean more with a down tuned guitar?

what are the price now for SeymourD's SH-8 Invader? anyone?
thanks..

Wow, you won't believe the difference between a stock pickup and a D'Marzio or Seymore Duncan until you make the change.

What a world of difference when I upgraded from my stock Ibanez pups to DM Tonezone and PafPro in my RG (Japan)! More sustain, better tone and way more clarity. I've been playing for a while though so I can appreciate the tonal upgrade.

My suggestion is, since you're a beginner, just stick with the stock pickups and stick to practicing to improve your playing, etc. Once you get better, you can shop around for a better axe since pickups are only a small part of the package - i.e. type of wood, quality of wood, tuners, bridge, etc all play a part in the overall sound. Hell, even your amp is very important!

Bottom line is you pay for what you get and by putting a Ferrari engine in a Proton, it doesn't mean you will get supercar performance. Good luck!

most of you all might disagree with me ..

but i think pickups and playing ..are the ones that REALLY affect your tone ..

lousy guitar ? get EMG ..you will be ok ..
lousy amp ? cmon , a dimarzio on a marshall mg isnt that bad ..

a good amp and a good guitar , with china made microphone pickups and bad playing , will never sound good

would really love to see u debate with the UG-ers.

lol..been there , done that..last time i was hanging out at the 80's shred forum ..i think it was 2004 etc...
used to be quite active , joining the competitions ..UGs top dog and stuff..
that time there was resi , freepower , master of shred etc...all of us got so sick of it ..

we made a small private forum , shredder invasion ..then it died..and dono what happened already

lulz.. thank for both comments

i'm still learning bass right now and received that guitar from a friend as a gift..
so i think i'll stick with the guitar as it is for the time being coz i wanna concentrate on bass and only touch the guitar like once a week

when i'm ready to take guitar seriously, maybe i'll change the pups 1st and see how it goes..
if it turns out to be not so good, i might get a new axe and use that pups on it

anyone know whats the price for SD blackout bridge pickup? looking for other than emg active pickup... emg is too expensive for me... new one is 400++ for one pickup... ni psal fuel price hike ke.... haha...

Blackouts cost same or more than EMGs IIANM