not longer wires.
has extra set of pots with longer shafts, cos the normal ones arent long enough to stick out of a LP.

pricewise, the EMG ZW may be just a little cheaper, as its a set.
EMG81 now in bentley iirc is RM430.
EMG85 around RM390.

Eh... edward freeman the one that makes freeman accoustic guitars?

how much does a set of EMG ZW cost?
do 81/85's come in a set as well?
and one last question, will it be ok if i put in EMG HZ into my AX instead of 81/85?

who else can there be?



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the 81/85 set is the ZW set, no others.
now? definitely somewhere close to RM800.
i got mine for RM600 a yr ago during bentley's sale.

and EMG HZ is nowhere near what the 81/85 sounds like.
you be better of putting duncans instead.

It's a little known fact that Gordon Freeman from Half Life, while not hunting down aliens and breaking government conspiracies, loves to build guitars too. Look out for the headcrab model soon!

sorry, typo. i meant to say putting EMG ZW's

hi,
anybody knows anyone whose bringing in SD pickup for tele? how much?

^ go for Bently, if they don't have it then u have to special order from their shop... gonna take months though.. the last time i checked there's no SD pickups for tele..

Anyone knows where's the cheapest place/person to get SD pickups from? Plus, anyone personally used the '59, Jazz, Parallel Axis Original, and Parallel Axis Blues Saraceno?

the only SD pickups i ever used are JB and hotrails.

can i buy pickup caps?

Anybody ordered from gain10music before? What are your experiences? Anybody kena tax from custom?

EMG 81 how much (now market price)? thanks..

what is the most powerful passive pickup(humbucker)? in terms of output etc

i would say. . .

X2N?

but i think there is a bill lawrence pup that is higher. . . not sure. . .

i gotta go try the SD Invader.. wonder if can get it here

BKP Warpigs


well maybe =p

heard the invaders are muddy tho

Wao...what a good description about the pickups...
I'm always use the bridge pu as me always play some Metal song...haha...
but i use neck pu for the clean song like Californiacation...

X2N7 Review

Phew... ok I finally managed to slot in some time with my 1527 with a newly-installed DiMarzio X2N7 in the bridge position.

Just a little background concerning why I chose of this p/up:

1. I've been GASsing for an X2N since way way back and was considering installing it into my Jackson RR3- on the spur of the moment however I opted for an EMG81/85 combo instead.
2. EMG81-7 or EMG707 would have required body routing on the guitar... and the p/ups themselves aren't very easy to source here. (DeadEye, no comments please... )
3. It's the highest output DiMarzio 7-string p/up and it has rails (FTW!).
4. Reviews on sevenstring.org etc say that this p/up is tight, brighter than the 6-string X2N and is dead-on for metal.

So with these things in mind, I plugged in my 1527 into my GT8 and dialled up the standard metal rhythm/lead patches (Mesa R-Fier Mdn 1 sim + 8x12 cab sim) which I made for the Jackson RR3+EMG81/85 combo; basically to get an A/B comparison between the EMG81 and the X2N7.

Shhhh....
I had one real fear before getting this p/up though... noise.

The EMGhas an RMS output voltage of 1.25khz and a peak output voltage of 1.75khz. IIRC, the EMG81 is actually a low output passive p/up and it's the active electronix thingy which boosts the output into "Stand Tall and Shake the Heaven" regions... supposedly that's why it's a relatively quiet p/up.

The X2N7 on the other hand is a straight-out ballz2Dwallz high output p/up so I was a bit worried that I'd get some serious feedback issues... surprisingly though, this p/up is quite quiet. The verdict is still out though because I've only tried it at slightly loud bedroom levels (twas be 2 hours till midnight, and t'would be impolite to blast ) ... will have to see how it fares at band playing levels though.

Rhythm
Since it's a 7-string, naturally the first power chord I hit was the low B and I thought to myself... wow, the distortion is as saturated as the EMG81. I played a few random palm-muted riffs on the B string (8th notes, 16th notes, syncopated, straight... standard power metal fare! "16th notes are the only notes!") and the thing that really struck me was how tight and clear the 7th string sounded. Heck, when I played on the 6th string it sounded even clearer and tighter than the EMG81! It was so bloody addictive that I spent about 15 minutes doing nothing but chugging aimlessly on the 7th string...

I think the difference between the EMG81 in the Jackson and the X2N7 in the 1527 is that the EMG81 has a bit more mids than the X2N7... according to the EQ chart on the DiMarzio website, the X2N7 has a pretty flat EQ curve with a very slight dip in the mid frequencies. Also probably it's because the Jackson is alder whereas the 1527 is basswood... who knows, I'm not very well-versed in guitar woods... hehe...

Lead
My lead patch is essentially the same as my rhythm patch, but I back off the gain on the R-fier sim and slap a T-screamer sim in front as a booster... plus a bit of EQ boost in the 2khz range. The X2N7 responded quite well- it may not be as bright as the EMG81 but it sure as heck sounds more "alive". Interestingly enough, according Tham (who has an X2N installed in his Ibanez Rhandy Rhoads) the X2N7 is a lot brighter than the 6-string X2N... then again, IIRC the X2N7 is not so much a modified X2N for 7-strings but more of a complete redesign. Oh well, I like the results...

For slow lines, the X2N7 has a bit of a sizzle to it which makes it "sing" nicely, but not so over-the-top. Surprisingly though, for fast scalar runs on the lower strings (7th to 4th strings), the notes sound clearer than the EMG81 in the Jackson. (...ok, I know a statement like this generally attracts comments like "if it sounds jumbled up, it's probably your technique wtf!" ... but since I'm comparing my own playing on the Jackson+EMG81 against the 1527+X2N7, that's as objective as I can get, so there! ...in other words, runs sounded less sloppy on the X2N7 than the EMG81... hehe...)

Yes, in my euphoric state, I even tried sweep arpeggios with this thing... it didn't really sound very clear, but I'm going to refrain from saying any more because that, I can safely say, is probably because of my technique (or lack thereof)...

...ok, the above was all tried with the p/up selector in the bridge position.... when I switched to the next position (2nd position from the bridge... the one where it uses one bridge single coil plus the neck p/up in parallel), ...the sound was single-coilish but still punchy. Gee... the output however was as much as my neck p/up (stock Ibz V7-7) in serial...

Clean tone... huh what?!
Hehe... I remember reading on the DiMarzio website... "If you're looking for pretty sound, don't go here. If you're looking for pretty crazy, this is it." That pretty much sums up how the clean tone sounds like...

On a more serious note however, chords don't sound as jangly with the X2N7 as with the EMG81. In fact, if the p/up selector is in the 2nd position from the Bridge, it actually sounds quite nice... punchy, clear and bright yet not piercing.

The End
I can safely say that I am now a DiMarzio convert. If I were to do a one-word against one-word comparison with the EMG, I'd say that the EMG is a "chainsaw" but this baby is a "chainsword" ("In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war." ..hehe...) Brutal, yet with more finesse than the EMG81...

Now the only problem is getting a decent neck p/up companion for this beast. I've been eyeing the DA7 neck which has an interesting treble spike... but I may also consider another X2N7 just to get that tight sound for my neck p/up. Plus, quad rails FTW!

So, in conclusion...
This thing is: like cold steel, good for slaying dragons (+1 against chromatic dragonkind), saving the green valleys where unicorns run wild, defending townes against the evil forces of the Abyss... essentially- metal.

This thing is bad for: anything that's not metal. On that note, I'll end with a quote from Joey DiMaio...

Any clips to share?

unfortunately (or fortunately) no... but if you see me in Que Tone, I'll let you demo it if you want...

Would love to!

...hehe... in return, you've gotta show "Under the Influence"!

ermm isn't that easy? just take a shot or something. . . then you're under it. . . lol

well, according to Rusty, when he had to shoot a video to showcase his Dean signature series, he chose "Under the Influence" because it was the easiest song from his solo album.

...ok before mod intervention comes, back to topic a bit...

I just found out from Tham that you can actually mix and match a passive pickup with an active one, so long as you use different volume pots. Which gives rise to interesting possibilities... like having an X2N on the bridge and an EMG85 on the neck. Seems ok for 6-strings but for 7-strings, it'll look bloody weird because of the stupid size of the EMG pickup covers...

you just found out from tham?
ppl have been doing that for ages, even judas priest has

wah seriously? I always heard that actives and passives can't be mixed one...

of cos la, but you'll need different pot values for active and passive, unless you really epic and decide not to have any vol/tone controls.

since we're on the topic of high output passive pickups, anyone tried (if its already here lah) the dimarzio dactivator?

the passive pickup that's suppose to be everything an active is minus its flaws (a bold claim)

Heard the clips from guitarworld website but a little 'sterile' to me...
Here's the link by the way:


http://www.guitarworld.com/article/dimarzi...d_dp219_pickups

It sounds good!

Darn... Gotta get me one of those ESP Eclipse...

lets reword that from an active point of view...
instead of sterile...
the pickup has crystal clean sounds without any of the inherent muddiness associated with passive pickups

haha, but dunnolah, like a little too clear, no 'life' to it or something.
But the distortion is sweet though.

i wonder how will those dactivators compare to emg hz h4's

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Added on September 27, 2007, 11:00 pmanyone know where i can emg-style pickup covers like these?



also, do you guys think it'll be funny to have a covered pickup in the bridge and an open coil pickup in the neck?

i'm deciding between an emg hz h4 and a seymour duncan sh-8 invader.. anyone tried them before?

Dear Sweet Tooth, the Dimarzio De-activators seem to be rather good, emulating the power and clarity of EMGs, yet retaining some form of 'character'. And EMG HZ not being their most popular model, well Dimarzio may seem to be the better choice. Only setback is, the De-activator Neck is trebly as hell! The Bridge model looks interesting though.

Just my RM0.07

im thinking of getting the neck one but i dont think itll go well with my burstbucker pro on the bridge right?

Yeah, but supposedly the D-Activator 7 Neck sounds bright but not brittle on the higher strings.

I doubt that the EMG-HZ will sound similar to the DA7 though, since like Val says, the DA7 is supposed to emulate active pups like EMG81.

SweetTooth, your AX is basswood right? ...you should probably stay clear from the Invader then... my friend has an Invader in a basswood RG, and it is not a very clear sounding p/up. Also, Invaders are supposedly better in woods like alder than in basswood.

Why not try the X2N? It's as high output (or higher!) as the Invader... plus the rails look schweeet...

a nice one to complement the bb pro, gibson '57 classic.

@ rusty: mine's agathis('06 model with lower specs)

i'd like something bright for some tight metal and alexi-ish tone

Well... I know for a fact that the X2N7 is bloody tight and is reasonably bright ala your tone (err... I mean Alexi ). The only X2N I've heard is Tham's one, but that's in the neck position.

Still, if you want tight and Alexi-sh, I think Invader is outta the question. And he was using the HZ in a Jackson (alder presumably).

Not sure how Agathis is supposed to sound like. Hel, be safe and get EMG81/85 FTW!

It's true....... forget about the rest if you're looking for Laiho's tone.
EMG 81/85 or EMG-HZ are still your best bet....

I know he just switched, but you loved his tone from his EMG days, so just stick with that.

the guys from trivium have switched from EMGs to SD Blackouts

more and more people are switching to blackouts haha.

i actually just need a bridge pickup, i'm happy with my neck pickup already(i like it warm on the neck pickup)

whats the price like?

slightly cheaper than BB

What pups will be great for metal in an Epi LP Standard?

EMG81/85 combo maybe?

It's a tried and proven combo, and you can't really go wrong with these pickups for metal...

EMGs?Nah,I don't really fancy actives.

Why would be the reason?

Active pups is a love/hate affair. You either love them to the point that you can't play without them or you're so strictly against it that you can't play with them. xD

hey guys, I really need your help into this. My friend is giving me his pickups. It's a 2 single coils from an Epiphone. So I want to stick those pickups ontop of my big baby Taylor(next to the bridge and neck)... I have seen a few fellas who did it already, not to mention Kurt Cobain on his MTV unplugged performance. http://youtube.com/watch?v=DH8fQT-147A

Help me out will ya? and pls pls pls don come tellin me to go to the guitar shop and fit some pickup under bridge. I'm pretty broke right now