Help2...

(see my rig on my sig)

Recently I just changed my RAM from Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 to Crucial ballistix Tracer DDR2 1066

What concern me is. .....

During the time using the old memory... my E8400 can go to 4.2Ghz 1.41vcore with setting FSB 467x9 and 936 Mhz of memory with a very2 relaxed timiing 5-6-6-21.

And when i changed with the ballistix.... all of the suddent the same setting failed in Orthos within 5'sec.

Then i worked my way here and there.. until i found the formula of running stable with :

E8400 @ 445x9 = 4Ghz Vcore : 1.392v
DDR2 1066 1:1 running normal 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2Ghz

Some ppl said has to increase the NB voltage and FSB volt... but it also didn;t help...

Forget abt even reaching the same 4.2Ghz as using the XMS2 before.....

So why my system are declining in terms of Proc speed to accomodate the faster RAM? and how to overcome that.. in order to reach the golden treshold of 4.4ghz on air?

My core temp reacing 68 to 69C but my diode around 38-39 on Full load.

Im using Xigmatek S1283 HSF and Fan...

Please help

I posted also in Intel Overclocking Thread.

Help2...

(see my rig on my sig)

Recently I just changed my RAM from Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 to Crucial ballistix Tracer DDR2 1066

What concern me is. .....

During the time using the old memory... my E8400 can go to 4.2Ghz 1.41vcore with setting FSB 467x9 and 936 Mhz of memory with a very2 relaxed timiing 5-6-6-21.

And when i changed with the ballistix.... all of the suddent the same setting failed in Orthos within 5'sec.

Then i worked my way here and there.. until i found the formula of running stable with :

E8400 @ 445x9 = 4Ghz Vcore : 1.392v
DDR2 1066 1:1 running normal 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2Ghz

Some ppl said has to increase the NB voltage and FSB volt... but it also didn;t help...

Forget abt even reaching the same 4.2Ghz as using the XMS2 before.....

So why my system are declining in terms of Proc speed to accomodate the faster RAM? and how to overcome that.. in order to reach the golden treshold of 4.4ghz on air?

My core temp reacing 68 to 69C but my diode around 38-39 on Full load.

Im using Xigmatek S1283 HSF and Fan...

Please help

I am using P35-DS3L

@ajaibman
can i know ur vid and how far u can oc when using all setting at stock???

U mean the vcore?... using the XMS2 I can go to 3.6 using the default v.core but above that has to increase the vcore.

ya stock vcore...also ur proc batch...

@ajaibman
From your experience, it seems like the Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 is benefit more in terms of overclocking if we compare to Crucial ballistix Tracer DDR2 1066..is it true? What ur comment?

@a1098113
Thanks bro.. that's what I'm doing now

My proc batch : Q748A095 Pack Date 01/26/2008 Version : E27439-001

Is this part of week 48? which consider bad production? and just found out from the core temp my VID is 1.1125v but in CPUz is around 1.392 when running @FSB 445x9

Confuseds?

No such thing as bad production, see ur rig sig, already 4.32GHz. Is it on air or water? If on air you must be lucky.

Thats for Benchie, but thats the old Siggy... before changed to Crucial Ballistix

u refer ur cpuz for vid..idle n load..yeah coretemp gv wrong reading..even u sett higher or default vid its still remain there im no saying batch 100% gv u high chance to oc higher clock..but sum of batch gv u better result for higher clock..but it still depend on ur skill,luck n hardware to tweak it

hey man can u tell me what is the program u used to give u top screen bar like mac

urm..im using objeck dock...

TQ...........

eh, wrong place to ask this question dude.

Normally u won't get bad procs... u may get procs that runs on very low Vcore on low OC but u can't really make them stable at high OC... u may get procs which needs high vcore to OC but it will be stable at high clock even though it needs higher Vcore...

You use 2x1GB now and 2x1GB before right?Take 2 sticks out and see

I did, running only with 2 Gb but same result.

bro...if i ma not mistaken ur mobo doesnt support 1066 ddr2 ram right? could that be the problem




a noob question here bro... would it be dangerous if i put above 1.45v on my e8400? my load temp on real temp is around 60c ....

doesn support doesnt mean u cant run it..its still drr2 ram..so can run it jus lower speed..btw bout the vcore.i found sum info in XS said there few ppl died their proc when using >1.4v for daily usage..so i think u may consider it

My mobo is Gigabyte p35 DS3L Rev.2 so it capable of handling 1066 DDR2.

Neways I think I will stick to 4.0 Ghz for the time being, as that may be my system wall already.

If for Benchie purposes, might jack it up to 4.2 ~ 4.3 ghz, but for daily usage 4Ghz already on the sweet spot, also my Vcore running at 1.37 so its on the safe side.

after i pushed my system yesterday... i seem to be failing orthos for no reason with my 24/7 settings which i've been running for the past month.... no matter what vcore i set also fail... i thought that it was the RAM but i changed to my spare ram kit also fail... any ideas on how to identify/solve the problems? runs nicely on stock settings though...

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Added on March 19, 2008, 5:13 pmnvm... fixed... setting problem lol...

im saying that becos i didnt see the crucial 1066 on the memory supports lists....and i saw the mobo box says supports 1066 only by OC...that's why i am just suggesting for the possibilities due to his weird ram condition

@mfcm

thanks for the info bro... anyways do u know the their operating load temp for those who had their proc dead as well? just as precaution

woh bro..dont say ur proc hv degraded dy

@tkh
will try find it back..coz my fren pas to me bout it to read tru..forgot to bookmark it

@mfcm
i think so wor... or is it mobo problem?... cuz now need 1.39v to run 4ghz... wtf?.. proc can degrade 1 ar?...

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Added on March 19, 2008, 9:55 pmlast time only require 1.31v...

yup..45nm proc can degrade..i wonder myb when u did 1.76v lastime

1.76v 3minutes only mah ... swt..

dats one im not sure..but my fren oredi remind me when oc..careful coz 45nm proc can degrade if overvolt perhaps it wont happen to me oso

geez... just read in XS myself.... most of them have the same sypmtoms like icemocha when having degradation... most of the time it happens when they push the vcore or fsb too high for benchmarking purpose... other than those,rumours has that stressing ur proc too long on prime or similar software will contribute to degradation as well

i think its time we take note of these factors n starts checking ur own proc for degradation by stressing on previously stable clock


btw...all these are about 45nm proc only...

nice u found it dy..sorry forgot to check back jus now..yeah seem cant oc with high vcore

damn... 45nm procs not as rock solid as 65nm eh...

Now my Proc giving me blue screen when running 4.0 Ghz on 1.392v .... Geez

I have to underclock it to 3.6 Ghz with stock vcore . (1.115v) so far no issue.

Read abt the Degradation on new wolfdale.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/248811-2...uth-degradation

Anyone Selling their Q6600???

if u have no issues running ur proc back at last stable settings on stock vcore, then the bsod is most likely to be ur ram problem instead of degradation... try give ur rams a stress test @ 445 fsb n see how it goes...

@ajaib
wahh..so fast ah..not even a week i told u bout it..now u facing prob

@ice
haha yeah 65nm i think doesnt hv this issue..but the temp abit high n oc oso quite hard..perhaps mine wont hv this issue later

Yeah... Was doing great on settings 445 fsbx9 and ram running on 2.40 multiplier.... wich gives around 1068 @5-5-5-12.

It managed running for 8 hours of Orthos CPU stress.

Then this morning, I woke up and check my Torrent down load.. (uTorrent only running)... all of the sudden.... is BSOD...

Another thread from other forum stated have to increase the northbridge and fsb voltage to stabilize, issit true?

@ajaib
mine now only can run 4ghz @ 1.39v...
crap... quaddies sucks... their multiplier is low... i heard the q9450 having problems OCing high...

miraculously, i pushed mine up to 4.2ghz with 1.46v n actually orthos for around 2 hours stable.... when i tried to check back with lower settings for degradation, i found out that my proc actually needed slightly lesser vcore to run the same clock

just sharing my findings so far...

guys,just wondering is this consider stable?Ive run orthos for 12 hours with vcore 1.5,mch and pcie voltage 1.58v and 1.95v for ram.i wanna try to push to 3.6 ghz but it seems fail with the same configuration plus i dont wanna push more vcore.Btw,im using aw9d max and elpida 667mhz ddr2 kingston ram.

Yes, finally able to hit 4ghz++ with my E8400 batch Q746A474 . Running 4.1ghz at 456x9@1.328

Hoping to go further but the temperature is quite high.
Running prime95, i am geting core1 74,core2 73 and cpu 60

nice oc bro ..btw caution with this degrade issue for 45nm proc

hi guys, have tried OC'ing my E8400 based on the guide in the reviews section by kmarc. Followed up to step 3, running prime95, but it stops testing...


screenshot of the prime95 error.

Am using a E8400, on a Gigabyte P35-DS3L, Kingston 2Gigs Ram 800mhz.

Please help! ):


Cpuz screen

Hi, I'm interested to start overclocking my PC and wanted some advice, help, suggestions and what not from you all before I start. I have no previous experience, but have been reading up on overclocking bit by bit over a year. Been waiting for a good timing to overclock.

Specs:
Windows XP SP2
Pentium 4 1.7GHz 478 Socket
Biostar U8668-d
1x512MB DDr 200 MHz (i think Apacer, or Kingston)
Radeon 9550 256MB AGP
350 or 300 watt power supply. Generic Brand.


Yes its old. Anyway I'm aiming to increase the FBS to 120 and follow the below site's example:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...%3Doff%26sa%3DG

Question:
How do I check my temperature accurately?
After reading an article recently, it had a checklist which included things I didn't think about, namely "Component Capabilities" in that article. Is it something I should worry, seeing my current PC setup?

Your vcore is not high enough.We are talking about 1.6v-1.7v on air cooling

What OC speed is stable at stock vcore? And what settings did you set in BIOS....

Try a lower speed or increase your vcore. What's your vcore in BIOS?

Make sure your rams are set to loose timings....

i can lower speeds to 333.. but then its 3.0g.

vcore is 1.15 in bios. stock vcore.

ram settings are loose. 5 5 5 15. tried with a pair of 667mhz ram and 800mhz. once i set to 400, then i cant run prime95 anymore.

^ Followed the same settings as per the guide you wrote. heh. (:

Try lower settings then. Maybe start and 360mhz and slowly go up. If you still get errors, try lower than that. However, it is possible that other parts are unstable.... maybe you set lower FSB strap? What mobo are you using? How did you set your ram multiplier/divider/ratio?

Alternatively, try increasing your vcore...

I'm using a GA-P35-DS3L.

Which is the setting for FSB Strapping? im a total newb at this. i just followed your guide verbatim. d:

OIC. The DS3L doesn't have any settings for the FSB strap....

Anyway, try lower FSB and increase it slowly to see what is the max limit FSB speed. Then try to increase the vcore and see.

Your E8400 is supposedly warrantied until 1.35v vcore.... but keep the core temperature below 60-65'c...

i have a problem with the cooling.. currently at stock settings, running prime95 my pc hits 75++ per core..

it idles on 55-48 per core..

i think i'll change the cooler before i try anything more..

[edit] increasing the vcore did it.. now running at 1.25v..

but the cpu temp is idling at 56-53 d:

i m just saying according to what i found so far on internet... most of the time they will start having problem from 1.4v n above

If 1.45v and ~70 c,degradation won't be bad