bryanyeo87
Jan 21 2008, 05:37 AM
QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 21 2008, 03:38 AM)
I'm using Tuniq's TX-2 rite now...any good?

its good

apparently better then MX2 according to some
skymyxe
Jan 21 2008, 07:24 AM
QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 21 2008, 03:38 AM)
I'm using Tuniq's TX-2 rite now...any good?

Yeah, cheaper and better. But MX-2 aint' bad except that TX-2 is much cheaper.
uzairi
Jan 21 2008, 08:41 AM
Im too busy and was not aware of this thread. Helo fellow c2d ang gigabyte owners.
SeaMonster
Jan 21 2008, 09:37 AM
QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 21 2008, 03:38 AM)
I'm using Tuniq's TX-2 rite now...any good?

How? U Feel Good?
iman_210
Jan 21 2008, 09:52 AM
m currently with AS5..so mx-2/tx-2 better is it?
Izwan898
Jan 21 2008, 10:08 AM
Yeah not bad

...coz before this I used AS5....so much better...never tried MX2 yet...a bit expensive though...
iman_210
Jan 21 2008, 10:27 AM
QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 21 2008, 10:08 AM)
Yeah not bad

...coz before this I used AS5....so much better...never tried MX2 yet...a bit expensive though...

then have to change camp to tunix lah...
Izwan898
Jan 21 2008, 10:49 AM
From the reviews, TX2 is slightly better than MX2...
SeaMonster
Jan 21 2008, 11:35 AM
QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 21 2008, 10:08 AM)
Yeah not bad

...coz before this I used AS5....so much better...never tried MX2 yet...a bit expensive though...

Just Pay It, It's Worth...
clayclws
Jan 21 2008, 01:57 PM
If you have either TX2, AS5 or MX2...don't bother trying to get the "best"...it's not necessarily better with your lapped or unlapped heatsink and/or CPU. Just use what you have lah...Why spend so much on thermalpaste? Use the money for a decent meal with your partner lah..
iman_210
Jan 21 2008, 06:43 PM
guys..my 2140 idle core 1 and core 2 sits at 47 celcius...load at 65 celcius...confirmed by intel thermal analysis tool.
quite high right?
cooled with xigmatek s963...p35 ds3 board. thermal paste as5.
any problem?
clayclws
Jan 21 2008, 07:47 PM
QUOTE(iman_210 @ Jan 21 2008, 06:43 PM)
guys..my 2140 idle core 1 and core 2 sits at 47 celcius...load at 65 celcius...confirmed by intel thermal analysis tool.
quite high right?
cooled with xigmatek s963...p35 ds3 board. thermal paste as5.
any problem?
What is your vcore?
iman_210
Jan 21 2008, 08:35 PM
QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 21 2008, 07:47 PM)
vcore at 1.28...2140 l2 stepping.
clayclws
Jan 21 2008, 10:18 PM
QUOTE(iman_210 @ Jan 21 2008, 08:35 PM)
vcore at 1.28...2140 l2 stepping.
Wow...it seems mighty high for such low voltage. Maybe casing ventilation not good enough? Heatsink fan not funcitoning well? I'm not too sure though.
Izwan898
Jan 21 2008, 10:33 PM
I think u need to check ur casing....a bit high for such low voltage...
clawhammer
Jan 22 2008, 12:38 AM
I believe he's using Coretemp 0.96 which reports the wrong reading for E21xx CPU's. The latest version fixed it.
iman_210
Jan 22 2008, 09:04 AM
QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 21 2008, 10:18 PM)
Wow...it seems mighty high for such low voltage. Maybe casing ventilation not good enough? Heatsink fan not funcitoning well? I'm not too sure though.
yeah pretty high...
i was comparing coretemp, speedfan, mobo utulity and intel thermal analysis...
speedfan and mobo utility showed temp of both core at idle of 33...load max at 55...
coretemp 0.96.1 and intel thermal analysis showed both core at idle of 48 and load at 68.
casing ventilation 1 x 92mm echaust fan at the back and 1 x 80mm fan on top. intake on the side of 120mm.
what is wrong guys? my hsf not seated correctly?
Added on January 22, 2008, 9:05 amQUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 22 2008, 12:38 AM)
I believe he's using Coretemp 0.96 which reports the wrong reading for E21xx CPU's. The latest version fixed it.
m using the latest coretemp...stil high...
clayclws
Jan 22 2008, 10:41 AM
Speedfan should be more accurate. And the fact that the mobo utility registered the same results, it should be all good.
iman_210
Jan 22 2008, 10:52 AM
QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 22 2008, 10:41 AM)
Speedfan should be more accurate. And the fact that the mobo utility registered the same results, it should be all good.
if then should settle for speedfan...having to c its high on cortemp even mild oc made me scared.
clayclws
Jan 22 2008, 11:02 AM
QUOTE(iman_210 @ Jan 22 2008, 10:52 AM)
if then should settle for speedfan...having to c its high on cortemp even mild oc made me scared.
Not to worry lah lad. CPU and GPU can take lots of heat. Just make sure you keep the ventilation properlly sorted out.
iman_210
Jan 22 2008, 11:09 AM
QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 22 2008, 11:02 AM)
Not to worry lah lad. CPU and GPU can take lots of heat. Just make sure you keep the ventilation properlly sorted out.
tq again.
Izwan898
Jan 22 2008, 01:40 PM
Really can depend on Speedfan readings?For me Speedfan reports way offset temps recently...

I do believe Coretemp more....
clayclws
Jan 22 2008, 01:48 PM
QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 22 2008, 01:40 PM)
Really can depend on Speedfan readings?For me Speedfan reports way offset temps recently...

I do believe Coretemp more....

Hmmm..so far it records the same temperature as my mobo's utility as well, including the BIOS at idle (assuming that it is ilde when I go into BIOS). Oh, btw, Tomshardware recommends it...
iman_210
Jan 22 2008, 02:39 PM
QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 22 2008, 01:40 PM)
Really can depend on Speedfan readings?For me Speedfan reports way offset temps recently...

I do believe Coretemp more....

yup...my mobo utility and bios shwed the same temp...coretemp way off...even my l2 tjunc is at 100 celcius...it supposed to be at 85 right?
clawhammer
Jan 22 2008, 04:02 PM
Did you download the latest version (0.96.1)?
It should be showing Tjunction as 85.
clayclws
Jan 22 2008, 04:11 PM
According to him, he is using CoreTemp 0.96.1.
iman_210
Jan 22 2008, 04:15 PM
QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 22 2008, 04:11 PM)
According to him, he is using CoreTemp 0.96.1.
yes m using 0.96.1.
and my tjunc is at 100...i will delete and try again to dloand the latest core temp
Izwan898
Jan 22 2008, 05:11 PM
Weird...I'm not having problems with coretemp...
convicted_knight
Jan 22 2008, 05:12 PM
Use Everest....
munspecs
Jan 22 2008, 07:53 PM
my set
P4 3.0Ghz 531
Stepping - 9 > G1
FSB - 200
CLOCK - 234x15 = 3.5Ghz
Volt - Stock
chipset - Nforce4 sli
RAM - 2GB DDR2 Stock
iman_210
Jan 22 2008, 08:14 PM
QUOTE(iman_210 @ Jan 22 2008, 04:15 PM)
yes m using 0.96.1.
and my tjunc is at 100...i will delete and try again to dloand the latest core temp
stil the same...my tjunc stil registers at 100
a1098113
Jan 22 2008, 09:16 PM
Tjunction for most M0 and G0 steppings are 100.....
a1098113
Jan 22 2008, 11:01 PM
@mun
nice clocks. Hows the heat of the prescott? hehe.
Izwan898
Jan 22 2008, 11:30 PM
QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:16 PM)
Tjunction for most M0 and G0 steppings are 100.....
True...
cschun86
Jan 23 2008, 12:25 AM
Urh... I just realise my p35-ds3 unable to oc well my E6600 ES,
anyone know what is the reason?
cant even go stable @ 3.2ghz,
even worse than my previous board, biostar 965pt...
the setting is:
vdimm = 1.4V
multiplier = 9
cpu clock = 356mhz
fsb = 1424mhz
ram = 1068mhz
very geram liao...
is it northbridge problem?
coz i realise the northbridge is quite high tempature...
a1098113
Jan 23 2008, 12:38 AM
@cs
how about your rams bro...
cschun86
Jan 23 2008, 12:51 AM
QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:38 AM)
@cs
how about your rams bro...
mine is Gskill DDR1000 4gb kit,
2 x 2gb,
should be no problem at the 1068mhz,
and the voltage of the ram are 2.0v,
the timing at 5-5-5-15
Izwan898
Jan 23 2008, 12:58 AM
QUOTE(cschun86 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:51 AM)
mine is Gskill DDR1000 4gb kit,
2 x 2gb,
should be no problem at the 1068mhz,
and the voltage of the ram are 2.0v,
the timing at 5-5-5-15
But u told us that your vdimm 1.4?

That low?
clayclws
Jan 23 2008, 01:04 AM
QUOTE(cschun86 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:25 AM)
Urh... I just realise my p35-ds3 unable to oc well my E6600 ES,
anyone know what is the reason?
cant even go stable @ 3.2ghz,
even worse than my previous board, biostar 965pt...
the setting is:
vdimm = 1.4V
multiplier = 9
cpu clock = 356mhz
fsb = 1424mhz
ram = 1068mhz
very geram liao...
is it northbridge problem?
coz i realise the northbridge is quite high tempature...
QUOTE(cschun86 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:51 AM)
mine is Gskill DDR1000 4gb kit,
2 x 2gb,
should be no problem at the 1068mhz,
and the voltage of the ram are 2.0v,
the timing at 5-5-5-15
Wow...so confusing...Let me rearrange:
vCore = 1.4v
Multiplier = 9
FSB = 356MHz
CPU clock = 3.204GHz
vDIMM = 2.0v
RAM clock = 534 (2:3 ratio) Timing 5-5-5-15
Hmmm...should provide CPU-Z screenies.
a1098113
Jan 23 2008, 01:14 AM
try a Dram:FSB ratio at 1:1 and try again. See whether it works, bro.
cschun86
Jan 23 2008, 02:37 AM
QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:58 AM)
But u told us that your vdimm 1.4?

That low?
yep, check out is the Vdimm problem,
I didnt notice it got holy shit vdrop tat much,
set at bios 1.45V,
after OC to 3.2ghz,
when stress with 2 orthos,
the voltage drop till 1.39V >.<"
now just wonder mine setup can go 3.6ghz with 400 x 9...
btw, the northbridge are damn hot...
3rd party cooler is suggested if I wana use 3.2ghz 7/24?
Izwan898
Jan 23 2008, 02:42 AM
QUOTE(cschun86 @ Jan 23 2008, 02:37 AM)
yep, check out is the Vdimm problem,
I didnt notice it got holy shit vdrop tat much,
set at bios 1.45V,
after OC to 3.2ghz,
when stress with 2 orthos,
the voltage drop till 1.39V >.<"
now just wonder mine setup can go 3.6ghz with 400 x 9...
btw, the northbridge are damn hot...
3rd party cooler is suggested if I wana use 3.2ghz 7/24?
Vdimm or Vcore?Errrr...I'm confused now...
cschun86
Jan 23 2008, 03:04 AM
QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 23 2008, 02:42 AM)
Vdimm or Vcore?Errrr...I'm confused now...

sorry, is Vcore,
paiseh paiseh >.<
all above is Vcore,
nothing abt the Vdimm
clayclws
Jan 23 2008, 09:25 AM
Hmm...as far as I know, there is no way of actually measuring the temperature of the Northbridge. The temperature you see on your mobo is actually the Southbridge, which is supposedly 10°C cooler than your Northbridge on load... If I'm not mistaken, that is.
tomatos
Jan 23 2008, 09:41 AM
QUOTE(cschun86 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:25 AM)
Urh... I just realise my p35-ds3 unable to oc well my E6600 ES,
anyone know what is the reason?
cant even go stable @ 3.2ghz,
even worse than my previous board, biostar 965pt...
the setting is:
vdimm = 1.4V
multiplier = 9
cpu clock = 356mhz
fsb = 1424mhz
ram = 1068mhz
very geram liao...
is it northbridge problem?
coz i realise the northbridge is quite high tempature...
At FSB 356 you have a ram that is running 534MHz(1068) i believe your FSB:DRAM ratio is 4:6
Try running this to get 3.6GHz
FSB 400
FSB:DRAM 1:1
Therefore ram would be 800MHz. Besides 1.4V vcore is abit high for 356MHz FSB. I believe your ram is pulling the OC down.
If your sure ur ram can run 1000MHz change the FSB:DRAM to 4:5
clayclws
Jan 23 2008, 09:52 AM
QUOTE(tomatos @ Jan 23 2008, 09:41 AM)
At FSB 356 you have a ram that is running 534MHz(1068) i believe your FSB:DRAM ratio is 4:6
Try running this to get 3.6GHz
FSB 400
FSB:DRAM 1:1
Therefore ram would be 800MHz. Besides 1.4V vcore is abit high for 356MHz FSB.
I believe your ram is pulling the OC down.If your sure ur ram can run 1000MHz change the FSB:DRAM to 4:5Huh? That way the RAM may limit the CPU even more. If the RAM reaches it's OC-ability before the CPU does, then you can't OC the CPU anymore unless you put the ratio back to 1:1. His 2:3 ratios is not doing him any good and I doubt a 4:5 will be better.
To cschun86, please post CPU-Z screenies. All of the tabs...we may be able to see your setup clearer.
tomatos
Jan 23 2008, 11:09 AM
QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 23 2008, 09:52 AM)
Huh? That way the RAM may limit the CPU even more. If the RAM reaches it's OC-ability before the CPU does, then you can't OC the CPU anymore unless you put the ratio back to 1:1. His 2:3 ratios is not doing him any good and I doubt a 4:5 will be better.
To cschun86, please post CPU-Z screenies. All of the tabs...we may be able to see your setup clearer.
You do know right that 2:3 has a bigger ratio difference than 4:5?
Currently at 2:3 his ram is limiting his CPU FSB. He stated that his ram can go up to 1000MHz and he wants 3.6GHz. At 4:5 he can have a FSB of 400MHz thus 3.6GHz(9*400) and a memory frequency of 500MHz thus 1000MHz DDR2.
I did suggest a 1:1 but it wouldn't be any good if his memory module can reach 1000MHz. What's the use of staying at 800MHz?
clayclws
Jan 23 2008, 11:23 AM
QUOTE(tomatos @ Jan 23 2008, 11:09 AM)
You do know right that 2:3 has a bigger ratio difference than 4:5?
Currently at 2:3 his ram is limiting his CPU FSB. He stated that his ram can go up to 1000MHz and he wants 3.6GHz. At 4:5 he can have a FSB of 400MHz thus 3.6GHz(9*400) and a memory frequency of 500MHz thus 1000MHz DDR2.
I did suggest a 1:1 but it wouldn't be any good if his memory module can reach 1000MHz. What's the use of staying at 800MHz?
1. Yes I do know. Let's just go to the sensible setting of 1:1.
2. No use having the memory faster than FSB since it won't yield much difference. Tomshardware published an article about it long time ago.
tomatos
Jan 23 2008, 11:25 AM
QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 23 2008, 11:23 AM)
1. Yes I do know. Let's just go to the sensible setting of 1:1.
2. No use having the memory faster than FSB since it won't yield much difference. Tomshardware published an article about it long time ago.
Then why did you mention that the DRAM frequency would limit the FSB even more? It has a reported increase performance and memory bandwidth of 2-3%.
clayclws
Jan 23 2008, 11:29 AM
QUOTE(tomatos @ Jan 23 2008, 11:25 AM)
Then why did you mention that the
DRAM frequency would limit the FSB even more? It has a reported increase performance and memory bandwidth of 2-3%.
Meaning that your computer will not run properlly once you OC the RAM too much...even though your CPU still has some OC headroom left. Say you can OC your RAM up to 500MHz, and your FSB up to 480MHz (as in most cases over at the C2D OC thread). So you run 4:5 ratio. Your RAM fails you at 501MHz, so you have to settle for 500MHz...at 4:5 ratio, your FSB is limited at 400MHz even though it can OC up to 480MHz.
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