I planning on buying e21xx to overclock.
I see from the gigabyte website...both GA-P35-DS3L(no onboard graphic) and GA-G31M-S2L(with onboard graphic) can support up to 1333Mhz FSB. So can they both overclock up to the same GHZ?
I thinking of getting GA-G31M-S2L because it's cheaper and I do not want to get a graphic card right now but I worry it cannot overclock as high as the other.
Any people have experience on this boards especially GA-G31M-S2L or other motherboard brand using G31 ...can advise on this?
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 8 2008, 11:34 PM)
Does anyone here uses DS3R (RAID version)?
I wonder if it overclocks just as good as the other brothers
I'm actually thinking of setting up RAID.
I wonder if it overclocks just as good as the other brothers
I'm actually thinking of setting up RAID.I'm using the DS3R, seems fine to me... No problem hitting 400MHz, but never tried higher due to proc limitations
Guys, check this out! I hope it's not old news A new useful feature from GIGABYTE that will benefit users who leave their comps on almost 24/7, me included! An ASUS EPU equivalent if not better 
Introducing...
GIGABYTE's Dynamic Energy Saver (DES)
http://www.giga-byte.com/FileList/WebPage/...es-overview.htm
I bought a DS3R (Was considering the DS3L but later decided not to) last month because most of the shops here in Penang were out of stock for the DS3, paid more for the RAID feature which I do not need but got something back in return. Hehe... Only revision 2.1 boards support DES, and mine is one of them. No wonder I can see LEDs in between the RAM slots lighting up when I power on my computer, I initially thought it was a debugger of some sort
The following motherboards can be upgraded to enable Dynamic Energy Saver:
GA-P35-DS4 rev. 2.1 / GA-P35-DS3P rev. 2.1 / GA-P35C-DS3R rev. 2.1 / GA-P35-DS3R rev. 2.1 / GA-P35-DS3 rev. 2.1
Seems like anything below the DS3 will not have DES
Added on January 10, 2008, 11:38 pmP/s: Read the 3rd paragraph "Unlike some power saving designs that only offer 2 gears..." GIGABYTE is refering to ASUS EPU
A new useful feature from GIGABYTE that will benefit users who leave their comps on almost 24/7, me included! An ASUS EPU equivalent if not better Introducing...
GIGABYTE's Dynamic Energy Saver (DES)
http://www.giga-byte.com/FileList/WebPage/...es-overview.htm
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I bought a DS3R (Was considering the DS3L but later decided not to) last month because most of the shops here in Penang were out of stock for the DS3, paid more for the RAID feature which I do not need but got something back in return. Hehe... Only revision 2.1 boards support DES, and mine is one of them. No wonder I can see LEDs in between the RAM slots lighting up when I power on my computer, I initially thought it was a debugger of some sort
The following motherboards can be upgraded to enable Dynamic Energy Saver:
GA-P35-DS4 rev. 2.1 / GA-P35-DS3P rev. 2.1 / GA-P35C-DS3R rev. 2.1 / GA-P35-DS3R rev. 2.1 / GA-P35-DS3 rev. 2.1
Seems like anything below the DS3 will not have DES
Added on January 10, 2008, 11:38 pmP/s: Read the 3rd paragraph "Unlike some power saving designs that only offer 2 gears..." GIGABYTE is refering to ASUS EPU
Cool stuff but I think we won't be utilizing it when it comes to overclocking. You wouldn't want the mobo to reduce the Vcore for you during idle 
Hehe... But I even leave EIST and C1E on while I overclock, no stability issues whatsoever
It shouldn't affect your VCore though, because I tried to set the VCore manually in BIOS and when EIST/C1E kicks in... The CPU's multi is lowered but VCore stays at the value set in BIOS. VCore will only drop if you set the VCore to "Normal", so if you want it to stay intact, set to 1.3250V lo
Added on January 11, 2008, 9:12 amUpdated the BIOS just now, DES doesn't work when you overclock The program asks you to return everything to default before starting the program
It shouldn't affect your VCore though, because I tried to set the VCore manually in BIOS and when EIST/C1E kicks in... The CPU's multi is lowered but VCore stays at the value set in BIOS. VCore will only drop if you set the VCore to "Normal", so if you want it to stay intact, set to 1.3250V lo
Added on January 11, 2008, 9:12 amUpdated the BIOS just now, DES doesn't work when you overclock
The program asks you to return everything to default before starting the program
You can leave EIST and C1E on but it'll lower your clock speed + voltage during low utilization which means you'll be on zero overclock most of the time
I think I'll get this DS3R for my RAID and keep the DS3L for my 2nd rig.
I think I'll get this DS3R for my RAID and keep the DS3L for my 2nd rig.
Guys I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I juz need to know if anyone here uses TR Ultra 120 Extreme in a Praetorian 732 coz I'm afraid it won't fit.... 
And can it fit my mobo too?
And can it fit my mobo too?
The IFX-14 fits my Gigabyte DS3L without problems so I don't think TR Ultra Extreme would ever give you problems
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 11 2008, 02:45 PM)
The IFX-14 fits my Gigabyte DS3L without problems so I don't think TR Ultra Extreme would ever give you problems
U sure bro?It won't touch the NB cooler?
And what about my casing...AFAIK, the height of Ultra 120 Extreme is 16Cm and it won't allow me to close the side panel....
Sir, I'm using that IFX-14 on my DS3L + CM690 and yes, it doesn't touch the NB cooler. I can even add a small fan on top of the NB heat sink
Btw, you can also google and there are plenty of photos showing Ultra Extreme and IFX-14 on different boards mounted.
Btw, you can also google and there are plenty of photos showing Ultra Extreme and IFX-14 on different boards mounted.
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 11 2008, 03:21 PM)
Sir, I'm using that IFX-14 on my DS3L + CM690 and yes, it doesn't touch the NB cooler. I can even add a small fan on top of the NB heat sink
Btw, you can also google and there are plenty of photos showing Ultra Extreme and IFX-14 on different boards mounted.
Btw, you can also google and there are plenty of photos showing Ultra Extreme and IFX-14 on different boards mounted.
And u can close the side panel?
Yes, I can close the side panel on my CM690. I'm not sure if the Praetorian 732 has the same width but maybe you can check the specs and compare?
Checked the specs and the praetorian got xtra 1Cm in it's width but from the reviews, I was told the height of the cooler is 16Cm and I used my ruler to find out....measurement from the mobo to the side panel only 15Cm bro...it got 1Cm xtra clearance meaning the cooler will be stuck out of the casing for about 1Cm....
Anyway can u post your casing's pics?
Anyway can u post your casing's pics?
Sure, I'll do that when I get home. In fact I've also posted in the CM League thread (Casing & Modifications) so if you want it quick, you can try searching for it there
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 11 2008, 05:21 PM)
Sure, I'll do that when I get home. In fact I've also posted in the CM League thread (Casing & Modifications) so if you want it quick, you can try searching for it there
Thanks mate!!I juz wanna see how the TR Ultra 120 Extreme fits in your casing n mobo...
Sorry bro, I'm using IFX-14 Nevertheless if IFX-14 can fit, I don't see why TR Ultra Extreme can't fit.
Nevertheless if IFX-14 can fit, I don't see why TR Ultra Extreme can't fit.
It's ok bro...I've seen your rig in the CM League....nice...hope it will fit my casing without any problem though.... 
QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 11 2008, 07:42 PM)
It's ok bro...I've seen your rig in the CM League....nice...hope it will fit my casing without any problem though....
No probs and please post a pic when it's done
If it doesn't fit then you can give yourself an excuse to get a new casing
Sifus, I juz went thru the recent pages of this thread and found a forummer was asking bout the ram multiplier...what's the difference between 2.00A and 2.00B?
And 1 more thing, anyone here who OC but set their voltages to auto??
And 1 more thing, anyone here who OC but set their voltages to auto??
Sorry but what 2.00A and 2.00B are we talking about here? If you set to "auto" then it is taking the default values. Of course you can overclock with that settings but if you want to go higher, you'll have to manually up the voltages accordingly.
Is checking Vcore using CPU-Z accurate?
When i set the vcore at 1.35V at BIOS it only shows 1.312 at CPU-Z.
When i set the vcore at 1.35V at BIOS it only shows 1.312 at CPU-Z.
QUOTE(nvidia @ Jan 12 2008, 12:25 PM)
Is checking Vcore using CPU-Z accurate?
When i set the vcore at 1.35V at BIOS it only shows 1.312 at CPU-Z.
When i set the vcore at 1.35V at BIOS it only shows 1.312 at CPU-Z.
Same case with me bro....
Another question from me 
. How to make orthos/prime95 play sound alert when it fails? I like to run it while sleeping and I don't want to wake up in the morning and see the test fail just after I sleep for 10 minutes.
. How to make orthos/prime95 play sound alert when it fails? I like to run it while sleeping and I don't want to wake up in the morning and see the test fail just after I sleep for 10 minutes.
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HI all.,i'm using E8400 now.,is this temperature ok..
idle
35C- core 1-52c core 2-44c
load
41c- core 1-62c core 2-68c
using with gigabyte p35 ds3 and thermalright ultra 90 with panaflo 9cm M series..
idle
35C- core 1-52c core 2-44c
load
41c- core 1-62c core 2-68c
using with gigabyte p35 ds3 and thermalright ultra 90 with panaflo 9cm M series..
QUOTE(Jibek @ Jan 13 2008, 12:45 PM)
HI all.,i'm using E8400 now.,is this temperature ok..
idle
35C- core 1-52c core 2-44c
load
41c- core 1-62c core 2-68c
using with gigabyte p35 ds3 and thermalright ultra 90 with panaflo 9cm M series..
idle
35C- core 1-52c core 2-44c
load
41c- core 1-62c core 2-68c
using with gigabyte p35 ds3 and thermalright ultra 90 with panaflo 9cm M series..
What's your vcore? For a 45nm dual-core penryn, that's high.... What app did you use to check your core temperature. Make sure your heatsink is seated properly....
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 13 2008, 01:53 PM)
What's your vcore? For a 45nm dual-core penryn, that's high.... What app did you use to check your core temperature. Make sure your heatsink is seated properly....
i'm using core temp.,everest and gigabyte easytune 5 to check temperature.,i also use AS5 for thermal paste..do i need to reapply TIM and reseated the heatsink..?
QUOTE(Jibek @ Jan 13 2008, 02:15 PM)
i'm using core temp.,everest and gigabyte easytune 5 to check temperature.,i also use AS5 for thermal paste..do i need to reapply TIM and reseated the heatsink..?
I don't have a penryn but the temperature at stock speeds is definitely higher than and overclocked C2D!!! And that's not right, if you take into account that the 8400 is a 45nm proc and stock vcore is supposed to be 1.225v max....
So, all the apps are giving the same readings? Yeah, maybe you should try to reseat the heatsink again.....
BTW, what's your vcore?
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 13 2008, 02:26 PM)
I don't have a penryn but the temperature at stock speeds is definitely higher than and overclocked C2D!!! And that's not right, if you take into account that the 8400 is a 45nm proc and stock vcore is supposed to be 1.225v max....
So, all the apps are giving the same readings? Yeah, maybe you should try to reseat the heatsink again.....
BTW, what's your vcore?
So, all the apps are giving the same readings? Yeah, maybe you should try to reseat the heatsink again.....
BTW, what's your vcore?
as you stated my vcore is V1.125..this is the screen shot..
Added on January 13, 2008, 2:50 pmis the processor problem.?
QUOTE(Jibek @ Jan 13 2008, 12:45 PM)
HI all.,i'm using E8400 now.,is this temperature ok..
idle
35C- core 1-52c core 2-44c
load
41c- core 1-62c core 2-68c
using with gigabyte p35 ds3 and thermalright ultra 90 with panaflo 9cm M series..
idle
35C- core 1-52c core 2-44c
load
41c- core 1-62c core 2-68c
using with gigabyte p35 ds3 and thermalright ultra 90 with panaflo 9cm M series..
Wait a sec. What's the temperature at load which indicates 41'c?
QUOTE(Jibek @ Jan 13 2008, 02:47 PM)
as you stated my vcore is V1.125..this is the screen shot..
Added on January 13, 2008, 2:50 pmis the processor problem.?
Added on January 13, 2008, 2:50 pmis the processor problem.?
Then, it shouldn't be that high. Why is your CPU fan rpm at 0? Is it connected/spinning?
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 13 2008, 02:56 PM)
Wait a sec. What's the temperature at load which indicates 41'c?
Then, it shouldn't be that high. Why is your CPU fan rpm at 0? Is it connected/spinning?
Then, it shouldn't be that high. Why is your CPU fan rpm at 0? Is it connected/spinning?
yes the CPU fan is spinning but.,i dunno why my board can't detect the RPM i'm using panaflo 9cm M series i bought from Allngap..i use other fan can detect the rpm but only the panaflo cannot..the 41c is after i play jericho.,the game use cpu like as loading.,the cold boot temp is 34-35c..is that normal.,or the proc problem..?
QUOTE(zubai @ Jan 13 2008, 03:00 AM)
Another question from 4 . How to make orthos/prime95 play sound alert when it fails? I like to run it while sleeping and I don't want to wake up in the morning and see the test fail just after I sleep for 10 minutes.
. How to make orthos/prime95 play sound alert when it fails? I like to run it while sleeping and I don't want to wake up in the morning and see the test fail just after I sleep for 10 minutes.As far as I know, there is no such feature. The only indication is the blinking LEDs on the keyboard..... err.... IIRC, it's the num lock.....
QUOTE(Jibek @ Jan 13 2008, 02:58 PM)
yes the CPU fan is spinning but.,i dunno why my board can't detect the RPM i'm using panaflo 9cm M series i bought from Allngap..i use other fan can detect the rpm but only the panaflo cannot..the 41c is after i play jericho.,the game use cpu like as loading.,the cold boot temp is 34-35c..is that normal.,or the proc problem..?
Difficult to say as I don't get the whole picture. Do the following - use core temp to look at the temperature. Look at both core temperature at idle. Then run a stress program e.g. orthos would be great (stress CPU option), for about 5 minutes and then look at the core temperature again (while still running orthos). Post here what core temp say regarding the idle and load temperatures.
Yeah, your fan might not have the rpm sensor and that's why it is not indicating the speed.......
So, what does load - 41'c, core 1 62'c and core 2 68'c mean???
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 13 2008, 03:05 PM)
Difficult to say as I don't get the whole picture. Do the following - use core temp to look at the temperature. Look at both core temperature at idle. Then run a stress program e.g. orthos would be great (stress CPU option), for about 5 minutes and then look at the core temperature again (while still running orthos). Post here what core temp say regarding the idle and load temperatures.
Yeah, your fan might not have the rpm sensor and that's why it is not indicating the speed.......
So, what does load - 41'c, core 1 62'c and core 2 68'c mean???
Yeah, your fan might not have the rpm sensor and that's why it is not indicating the speed.......
So, what does load - 41'c, core 1 62'c and core 2 68'c mean???
the.,41c is cpu temp.,but the core temp is= core1-62c core2 68c.,sometime can be core1-68 core2-62.,is that normal...
QUOTE(Jibek @ Jan 13 2008, 03:09 PM)
the.,41c is cpu temp.,but the core temp is= core1-62c core2 68c.,sometime can be core1-68 core2-62.,is that normal...
CPU temp from easytune5 right? No, that's not normal.
The CPU temp from easytune5 may differ slightly from Core Temp but usually not by THAT much. It is possible that your CPU is still new and the applications are still not updated to read penryn core temperature yet, especially the easytune5.....
If you look at Core Temp, it is reading the cpu ID correctly.....
For my rig at load, easytune5 says 45'c but Core Temp says 55'c..... I tend to believe core temp.....
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 13 2008, 03:18 PM)
CPU temp from easytune5 right? No, that's not normal.
The CPU temp from easytune5 may differ slightly from Core Temp but usually not by THAT much. It is possible that your CPU is still new and the applications are still not updated to read penryn core temperature yet, especially the easytune5.....
If you look at Core Temp, it is reading the cpu ID correctly.....
For my rig at load, easytune5 says 45'c but Core Temp says 55'c..... I tend to believe core temp.....
The CPU temp from easytune5 may differ slightly from Core Temp but usually not by THAT much. It is possible that your CPU is still new and the applications are still not updated to read penryn core temperature yet, especially the easytune5.....
If you look at Core Temp, it is reading the cpu ID correctly.....
For my rig at load, easytune5 says 45'c but Core Temp says 55'c..... I tend to believe core temp.....
so what is your suggestion bro.,do i need to reseat the heatsink..or try something else that you know..can you guide me.,because this proc make me..
IIANM, SP2004 will emit sound from motherboard buzzer when error comes out... 
QUOTE(Jibek @ Jan 13 2008, 03:22 PM)
so what is your suggestion bro.,do i need to reseat the heatsink..or try something else that you know..can you guide me.,because this proc make me..
Errr.... try googling around or ask our forumer with the 8400 what the temperature is......
You can try to re-seat the CPU HSF as that would be the easiest thing to do now....
Can guide you but me no 8400....
QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 13 2008, 03:31 PM)
IIANM, SP2004 will emit sound from motherboard buzzer when error comes out...
Really? Hmmm.... wonder why orthos doesn't have it?
Hmmm.... where's my motherboard buzzer.....
i'll reconfirm A.S.A.P... gosh, i'm on my sis's PC, later la, i try re run with unstable overclock
nobodyknow. problem resolve.
QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 13 2008, 03:31 PM)
IIANM, SP2004 will emit sound from motherboard buzzer when error comes out...
yeah... my buzzer was bleeping like mad this morning when i was sleeping =__=
guys...i ve got a problem with my P35-DS4. Why eerytime I try to lower down the multiplier, it keeps re booting, and automatically disabling the clock which Iam sure This really doesnt work.
any idea guys? but running perfetlyIf I didnt lower down the multiplier....
any idea guys? but running perfetlyIf I didnt lower down the multiplier....
Which multiplier are you talking about? More details would be better....
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 14 2008, 05:47 PM)
Which multiplier are you talking about? More details would be better....
on E 2140 bro.. any idea?
QUOTE(anggajaya @ Jan 14 2008, 10:02 PM)
on E 2140 bro.. any idea?
Not unusual as I'm having the same issue. Lower multiplier doesn't always work especially at higher FSB's.
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 14 2008, 10:18 PM)
Not unusual as I'm having the same issue. Lower multiplier doesn't always work especially at higher FSB's.
aha.... phew, i thought My p35-Ds 4 doesnt like the lowered multiplier... so this is considered as such an issue lah...
QUOTE(anggajaya @ Jan 14 2008, 10:23 PM)
aha.... phew, i thought My p35-Ds 4 doesnt like the lowered multiplier... so this is considered as such an issue lah...
It will work on lower multipliers but not on all FSB's. I just got my IP35 Pro so I'll try and see if it makes a difference.
can intel core duo 2 T7300 be clockable???
sure it can be overclocked. if the bios of the lappie allows it la 
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