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Dickong
QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 21 2007, 11:39 AM)
You're using the app "Core Temp version 0.95.4"? If so, then 63-65'c is ok although a bit lower would be better.

Again, these temperature cut-off is very subjective. Some people run then procs at 70'c without any short term problems.....  smile.gif
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Another question, is it possible to run my ram at 1t, i couldnt find anywhere to set it to 1t, saw your signature using the same mobo.
kucingfight
QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 21 2007, 11:56 AM)
Another question, is it possible to run my ram at 1t, i couldnt find anywhere to set it to 1t, saw your signature using the same mobo.
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nope not all mobo has the option of adjust the CommandRate 1T/2T. it doesnt bring any significant differences, i doubt it actually 'works' at all
skymyxe
QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 21 2007, 11:12 AM)
I see. I'm don't have Everest Ultimate. Try using core temp version 0.95.4. It is supposed to be a good app for monitoring the E6x50's core temps.

Anyway, it is generally not advisable to run your CPU 24/7 at more than 60-65'c....  smile.gif
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Core temp is 49C idle. Only at 100% load it reaches 71C. So I'm wondering whether it is ok. Idle should be ok, just when load? icon_question.gif
kmarc
QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 21 2007, 11:56 AM)
Another question, is it possible to run my ram at 1t, i couldnt find anywhere to set it to 1t, saw your signature using the same mobo.
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Yup, as kucingfight has already mentioned, some reviews showed that there is no speed advantage between 1T and 2T. This only applies to DDR2 though.....

For the P35-DS3, you can't set it to 1T.....

QUOTE(skymyxe @ Nov 21 2007, 03:47 PM)
Core temp is 49C idle. Only at 100% load it reaches 71C. So I'm wondering whether it is ok. Idle should be ok, just when load?  icon_question.gif
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Load temp is a bit high. Not considered that safe.... either throttle down your OC or get a good 3rd party cooler..... smile.gif
skymyxe
QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 21 2007, 05:39 PM)
Yup, as kucingfight has already mentioned, some reviews showed that there is no speed advantage between 1T and 2T. This only applies to DDR2 though.....

For the P35-DS3, you can't set it to 1T.....
Load temp is a bit high. Not considered that safe....  either throttle down your OC or get a good 3rd party cooler.....  smile.gif
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Any particular cooler that you recommend. I was hopin' for it to be cheap coz I ain't got much money here. icon_rolleyes.gif
jackanory
QUOTE(skymyxe @ Nov 21 2007, 09:03 PM)
Any particular cooler that you recommend. I was hopin' for it to be cheap coz I ain't got much money here.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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xigmatek s963, i replaced my ac freezer 7 pro wit this & it performs much better.. dirt cheap too. rmm119 i think.. bought frm ckhoong in bul section.
skymyxe
QUOTE(jackanory @ Nov 21 2007, 08:32 PM)
xigmatek s963, i replaced my ac freezer 7 pro wit this & it performs much better..  dirt cheap too. rmm119 i think.. bought frm ckhoong in bul section.
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Yeah, was thinkin' bout that cooler too. But the problem is, I read reviews bout it and it doesn't seem to have a major drop on the temperature. Minimal 2-3C only. ohmy.gif
kmarc
QUOTE(skymyxe @ Nov 21 2007, 10:05 PM)
Yeah, was thinkin' bout that cooler too. But the problem is, I read reviews bout it and it doesn't seem to have a major drop on the temperature. Minimal 2-3C only.  ohmy.gif
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Currently, the best air-cooler in terms of price:performance is the Xigmatek S1283....
heng84
hello.. guys.. have one more question, i have found a 2nd hand board gigaybte p35-ds3 REV 1.0, now im having gigabyte 965p-ds3 rev 3.3 , members here ask me to trade to at least p35 board to fully utilize my Q6600 quad core, so my question is p35-ds3 rev1.0 is better than my 965p ?? for my quadcore, remark: this p35-ds3 is rev 1.0 not 2.0 , so should i keep or trade it?
skymyxe
QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 21 2007, 10:34 PM)
Currently, the best air-cooler in terms of price:performance is the Xigmatek S1283....
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What about Thermaltake MaxOrb and Big Typhoon? Any opinion? icon_rolleyes.gif
kucingfight
QUOTE(heng84 @ Nov 22 2007, 11:35 AM)
hello.. guys.. have one more question, i have found a 2nd hand board gigaybte p35-ds3 REV 1.0, now im having gigabyte 965p-ds3 rev 3.3 , members here ask me to trade to at least p35 board to fully utilize my Q6600 quad core, so  my question is p35-ds3 rev1.0 is better than my 965p ?? for my quadcore,  remark: this p35-ds3 is rev 1.0 not 2.0 , so should i keep or trade it?
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yes the p35 rev1.0 is better than ur p965 v3.3
gsan
what is the difference between P35 DS3 rev1.0 and rev2.0?

p/s: going to join this thread soon. smile.gif
heng84
QUOTE(kucingfight @ Nov 22 2007, 11:46 AM)
yes the p35 rev1.0 is better than ur p965 v3.3
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ty boss..! i can go ahead and trade then flex.gif
kmarc
QUOTE(gsan @ Nov 22 2007, 01:12 PM)
what is the difference between P35 DS3 rev1.0 and rev2.0?

p/s: going to join this thread soon. smile.gif
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Dunno. Even in Gigabyte's website, they never really state the difference....

So, finally, you have decided to upgrade! thumbup.gif
gsan
QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 22 2007, 03:59 PM)
Dunno. Even in Gigabyte's website, they never really state the difference....

So, finally, you have decided to upgrade!  thumbup.gif
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hehe, for my dad one, he need a powerful multitasking setup laugh.gif

Intel C2D E6550 + GA-P35-DS3 + Crucial PC5300 D9GMH 2x1GB rclxms.gif
kmarc
QUOTE(gsan @ Nov 22 2007, 05:23 PM)
hehe, for my dad one, he need a powerful multitasking setup  laugh.gif

Intel C2D E6550 + GA-P35-DS3 + Crucial PC5300 D9GMH 2x1GB  rclxms.gif
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Cool! Why not get the E6750? Less than a hundred ringgit difference only ma.... Better OC also.... smile.gif
gsan
QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 22 2007, 07:06 PM)
Cool! Why not get the E6750? Less than a hundred ringgit difference only ma.... Better OC also....  smile.gif
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lol... E6750 + P35-DS3 already over 1k, out of budget sweat.gif

btw, this pc must be running stable 24/7, so I dont expect for extreme oc, maybe 3GHz is enough. and the problem now is, I need to find the LGA775 RM for my XP90C.
tachlio
QUOTE(gsan @ Nov 22 2007, 07:52 PM)
lol... E6750 + P35-DS3 already over 1k, out of budget  sweat.gif

btw, this pc must be running stable 24/7, so I dont expect for extreme oc, maybe 3GHz is enough. and the problem now is, I need to find the LGA775 RM for my XP90C.
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change ur with ur dad then ma ok~ lolz rclxms.gif
gsan
QUOTE(tachlio @ Nov 22 2007, 08:02 PM)
change ur with ur dad then ma ok~ lolz rclxms.gif
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lol... I've taken off the IHF of my X2, the xp90c cannot make contact directly with the bare core, need to modify.
azman4243
i'm using q6600 with p35-ds4 rev1.1...
i want to know why my multiplier keep changing form 6 to 9..
9 to 6 back.. and so on.. btw.. i set my multiplier to 9.. went i set the multiplier to 8.. it keep changing form 6 to 8.. on so on.. any setting that i miss to make the multiplier stay.. ??

edit:
find the solution already.. tongue.gif
thank..
ah_khoo
QUOTE(gsan @ Nov 22 2007, 01:12 PM)
what is the difference between P35 DS3 rev1.0 and rev2.0?

p/s: going to join this thread soon. smile.gif
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welcome to d darkside bro... brows.gif

uncle's rig so powerful ah? does he need so much processin power? hmm.gif
wodenus
QUOTE(gsan @ Nov 22 2007, 05:23 PM)
hehe, for my dad one, he need a powerful multitasking setup  laugh.gif

Intel C2D E6550 + GA-P35-DS3 + Crucial PC5300 D9GMH 2x1GB  rclxms.gif
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Hm if multitasking should add at least one more GB smile.gif ram is cheap now smile.gif
skymyxe
2 GB should be enuff. If wanna get 4GB, try 64 bit OS as 32 bit only detect up too 3.5GB. icon_rolleyes.gif
phas3r
help i cannot overclock at all!!! this really sucks!! vmad.gif mad.gif
1) i changed fsb from 200 to 220
2) voltage from 1.325 to 1.33
3) ram ratio from 3.33 to 2.66(so that it runs at 250x2.66=665)
4) disable all those safety stuffs like eist, blah2..
and cannot boot at all!! turn power off and then on pc, just blank screen..try more than 10 times only can boot, at that time the OC disables already..
rig is as my sig
with the combination of both cpu and motherboard, both are proven good overclockers!!
FYI before this ive put my score on 3dmark01 benchmark list with 2.75ghz d, prime etc etc all pass
ah_khoo
QUOTE(phas3r @ Nov 24 2007, 03:05 AM)
help i cannot overclock at all!!! this really sucks!!  vmad.gif  mad.gif
1) i changed fsb from 200 to 220
2) voltage from 1.325 to 1.33
3) ram ratio from 3.33 to 2.66(so that it runs at 250x2.66=665)
4) disable all those safety stuffs like eist, blah2..
and cannot boot at all!! turn power off and then on pc, just blank screen..try more than 10 times only can boot, at that time the OC disables already..
rig is as my sig
with the combination of both cpu and motherboard, both are proven good overclockers!!
FYI before this ive put my score on 3dmark01 benchmark list with 2.75ghz d, prime etc etc all pass
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bro, our board don't really like 2.66 multi, try 2.5 u'll see it fly... smile.gif

btw, u ain't need to bump d voltage, i believe no matter how bad ya chip is, it's still capable to do 10% oc without d need of extra juice... wink.gif
clawhammer
After reading around, I came to a conclusion whereby it's always best to run 1:1 with the lowest CAS latency as possible.
ah_khoo
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 24 2007, 11:04 AM)
After reading around, I came to a conclusion whereby it's always best to run 1:1 with the lowest CAS latency as possible.
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i think it's not so suitable for our case bro, since our chips (e21x0) have fsb wall @ around 400 +/-, it's better for us to push the ram more... biggrin.gif

pls correct me if i'm wrong... wink.gif
clawhammer
The rationale is that we should get the RAM running at lowest CAS latency as possible. As such it's better to get 400Mhz 1:1 14-4-4-4 than 470Mhz 5:6 15-5-5-5

I'm not sure how true this is smile.gif
wodenus
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 24 2007, 08:48 AM)
bro, our board don't really like 2.66 multi, try 2.5 u'll see it fly...  smile.gif

btw, u ain't need to bump d voltage, i believe no matter how bad ya chip is, it's still capable to do 10% oc without d need of extra juice...  wink.gif
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Actually you can do close to 80% without touching the VCore at all smile.gif


Added on November 24, 2007, 9:50 pm
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 24 2007, 09:38 PM)
The rationale is that we should get the RAM running at lowest CAS latency as possible. As such it's better to get 400Mhz 1:1 14-4-4-4 than 470Mhz 5:6 15-5-5-5

I'm not sure how true this is smile.gif
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you can get 4-4-4-12 actually instead of 14.
clawhammer
I suppose that can be done but I've never tried smile.gif
ah_khoo
QUOTE(wodenus @ Nov 24 2007, 09:43 PM)
Actually you can do close to 80% without touching the VCore at all smile.gif

bro, i believe not all chip are capable of that. smile.gif
phas3r
lol... what bios do u use ahkhoo??
i can only use 2.0,2.33,2.66...no 2.5 there.....
if it cant boot what else could be the prob? could the bios be it?..
wodenus
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 24 2007, 10:01 PM)
I suppose that can be done but I've never tried smile.gif
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Why not try it ? smile.gif
ah_khoo
QUOTE(phas3r @ Nov 24 2007, 10:37 PM)
lol... what bios do u use ahkhoo??
i can only use 2.0,2.33,2.66...no 2.5 there.....
if it cant boot what else could be the prob? could the bios be it?..
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am on f12 bios bro... i took me one day to realize that our board dun really like multi 2.66 n above. my ram is of d9dcl, d lousiest chippies from micron. blush.gif

ya ram is on what chippies? smile.gif
wodenus
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 24 2007, 10:09 PM)
bro, i believe not all chip are capable of that.  smile.gif
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M0-stepping 2140 should be capable of that or somewhere near that ? smile.gif goldfries can do I, I can do it... if you look at the E2140 OC page you'll see that lots of people can do it. I can do 80% on cheap RAM (KVRs and Patriots), cheap board (DS3L) and cheap HSF (CM Silence.) It's not like that's a rare thing.
clawhammer
QUOTE(wodenus @ Nov 24 2007, 10:56 PM)
Why not try it ? smile.gif
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I'll do it soon as I'm currently trying 405 x 8 with my lapped CPU and stock cooler smile.gif
cschun86
hmm, a noob question here,
i just change to p35-ds3 last week,
the reason i change the board coz my previous mobo malfunctioned due to pci-e bus problem,

hmm, real noob question here,
how can check the voltage of the current setting?
i mean when i wana oc,
like the ram voltage,
u can set +0.1v, +0.2v, +0.3v and etc,
but why cant i see the current voltage for the ram?
and also the other voltage as well,
I just can see the cpu vcore only...

the bios is different with my biostar previously,
so, kinda feel cant adapt with current bios and it's tweaking style...
plankton
the latest bios would display real voltages instead of OK in the PC health page in bios. try it smile.gif

ram default is 1.8v.. so +0.1 would be 1.9v
clawhammer
Does the latest BIOS provides better overclockability or the same? smile.gif
cschun86
QUOTE(plankton @ Nov 25 2007, 12:25 AM)
the latest bios would display real voltages instead of OK in the PC health page in bios. try it smile.gif

ram default is 1.8v.. so +0.1 would be 1.9v
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mine is already update to f9 bios wor...
phas3r
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 24 2007, 10:57 PM)
am on f12 bios bro... i took me one day to realize that our board dun really like multi 2.66 n above. my ram is of d9dcl, d lousiest chippies from micron.  blush.gif

ya ram is on what chippies?  smile.gif
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me on F12 now... before this on F10.. no improvements.......
how to check chipset?
aisey....damn frustrated la
anybody can come to my house and help me overclock ? i will you.... or ill come to your house oso can
Dickong
QUOTE(cschun86 @ Nov 25 2007, 01:05 AM)
mine is already update to f9 bios wor...
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Why dont u try to latest bios F10, just out few days only, i am using now but a bit fussy on the ram side
ah_khoo
QUOTE(phas3r @ Nov 25 2007, 01:25 AM)
me on F12 now... before this on F10.. no improvements.......
how to check chipset?
aisey....damn frustrated la
anybody can come to my house and help me overclock ? i will you.... or ill come to your house oso can
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to try to find d max frequency of ya ram (u can find the max fsb as well by this):

- lower cpu multi
- set ram multi to 2.00
- raise ya fsb gradually, test it with memtest for stability, if there's any error, increase ram voltage (try to make it below 2.2v for long test)

after find out the max frequency of ya ram, then only proceed to find d max frequency of ya chip. smile.gif
phas3r
if the ram didnt hit 667 yet shud increase oso voltage?
ah_khoo
QUOTE(phas3r @ Nov 25 2007, 02:05 PM)
if the ram didnt hit 667 yet shud increase oso voltage?
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no, most of the time u ain't need extra voltage at rated speed... smile.gif
wodenus
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 24 2007, 11:34 PM)
I'll do it soon as I'm currently trying 405 x 8 with my lapped CPU and stock cooler smile.gif
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Woohoo smile.gif really going for economy eh ? smile.gif
clawhammer
wodenus, I wanted to get some used coolers but not many good ones are available. Maybe you should sell me yours for a good price biggrin.gif
wodenus
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 26 2007, 03:02 PM)
wodenus, I wanted to get some used coolers but not many good ones are available. Maybe you should sell me yours for a good price biggrin.gif
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Well I won't need it after I get the phase-change, so maybe smile.gif
clawhammer
Btw, my BIOS is F5 currently so any good to update with the latest one? If there are no speed or overclocking improvements, I might as well stay as it is.
wodenus
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 26 2007, 05:41 PM)
Btw, my BIOS is F5 currently so any good to update with the latest one? If there are no speed or overclocking improvements, I might as well stay as it is.
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Won't hurt I think, if it sucks you can always revert. The best thing about the new BIOS is that you get to see the voltages. Also it seems to be a bit more stable at higher FSBs, but the higher FSBs are a bit harder to reach. That's been my experience anyway.
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