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clawhammer
ah_khoo, thanks and I'm running on 2.00 so in a way, yours should be faster if you're doing it at 2.5 smile.gif Maybe I should try that as well.

Btw, how about the other optimization settings like "Extreme", etc. Do you set everything to the max?
ah_khoo
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 02:22 PM)
ah_khoo, thanks and I'm running on 2.00 so in a way, yours should be faster if you're doing it at 2.5 smile.gif Maybe I should try that as well.

Btw, how about the other optimization settings like "Extreme", etc. Do you set everything to the max?
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i always put everything to manual / normal, inherit d habit from dfi as manual still d best way to get d best outta every component bro. smile.gif
clawhammer
ah_khoo, thanks and I'll try it out further tonight and post some screenshots/benchmarks. I'm still new to all these so lots of guidance from the pros like you are very much appreciated smile.gif

Btw, I also share the same LCD as you do, lol.
ah_khoo
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 02:53 PM)
ah_khoo, thanks and I'll try it out further tonight and post some screenshots/benchmarks. I'm still new to all these so lots of guidance from the pros like you are very much appreciated smile.gif

Btw, I also share the same LCD as you do, lol.
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bro, i'm not a pro, when u guys were playin with k7, i was still a pc noob... laugh.gif

pr0di9y and u are few of d veterans that i can remember... tongue.gif
clawhammer
Apologize for that ah_khoo but I really do think you guys are more knowledgable than me. I didn't know you still remember this old man biggrin.gif

Btw, what is your Vdimm, FSB, NB voltages for your overclock?
ah_khoo
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 05:18 PM)
Apologize for that ah_khoo but I really do think you guys are more knowledgable than me. I didn't know you still remember this old man biggrin.gif

Btw, what is your Vdimm, FSB, NB voltages for your overclock?
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ram @ ~900MHz, vdimm = 2.0v
fsb and nb voltage increased by a notch bro, btw, kucing did mentioned that can leave these voltage to stock if fsb is less than 450. biggrin.gif
extremeocer
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 14 2007, 05:35 PM)
ram @ ~900MHz, vdimm = 2.0v
fsb and nb voltage increased by a notch bro, btw, kucing did mentioned that can leave these voltage to stock if fsb is less than 450.  biggrin.gif
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It depends on case by case. Even if you hit the FSB wall at 400fsb...increase the Vnb might just help you push the wall further.
clawhammer
Thanks ah_khoo biggrin.gif
450 * 8 = 3.6Ghz - Nice overclock bro!
kucingfight
QUOTE(extremeocer @ Nov 14 2007, 05:40 PM)
It depends on case by case. Even if you hit the FSB wall at 400fsb...increase the Vnb might just help you push the wall further.
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ya it depends, but assuming the CPU has hit the 400fsb wall, increasing Vnb wouldnt help either, especially on those E2XXX.

ah_khoo
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 05:41 PM)
Thanks ah_khoo biggrin.gif
450 * 8 = 3.6Ghz - Nice overclock bro!
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nolah, not my case, i'm doin 8*36x only currently. i've did a quick check, think d fsb wall is around 395, 400 & above sometimes can boot, sometimes cant... doh.gif

QUOTE(kucingfight @ Nov 14 2007, 05:47 PM)
ya it depends, but assuming the CPU has hit the 400fsb wall, increasing Vnb wouldnt help either, especially on those E2XXX.
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d guru has spoken... tongue.gif

yup, if d wall is hit even raisin d Vnb won't help. smile.gif
clawhammer
How do we fix the "wall" or there aren't any fix to it? biggrin.gif
extremeocer
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 05:51 PM)
How do we fix the "wall" or there aren't any fix to it? biggrin.gif
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there is no definite answer to it. As for me, when i hit the FSB wall at 400fsb, increasing the Vnb gives me extra head room to around 480fsb. Cascading my proc allows me up to 540fsb. So it really depends on ur hardware and cooling.
plankton
kucingfight: im using a thermalright ultra-90 + Panaflo fan.

right now testing with:
350x8 = 2.8Ghz
ram@700Mhz (2.00)

cpu voltage is
idle : 1.34XX , 1.312 in cpuz
load : 1.280 in cpuz

other voltages up a notch.. want to see if i still face the cold boot issue. later gonna lower one by one.. gonna take some time to test since the cold boot problem was random b4 this.

btw, ive got a 2" fan blowing onto the MCH heatsink.

temps ~30@idle, max 53@load using coretemp 0.9.4

hopefully i dont get any more bios resets at cold boot *crosses fingers*
ah_khoo
for my case, uppin vmch (vnb i supposed) by a nothc is a must when there's oc done, else, i will have this cold boot issue. smile.gif
PeowYong
any way to set the multiplier not 1:1 or higher?
coz i think my ram is limiting my oc...
now running 457x7 => 3.2 Ghz with stock voltage
means that my ram is doing 914 like that...
extremeocer
QUOTE(PeowYong @ Nov 15 2007, 01:13 PM)
any way to set the multiplier not 1:1 or higher?
coz i think my ram is limiting my oc...
now running 457x7 => 3.2 Ghz with stock voltage
means that my ram is doing 914 like that...
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depends on the type of proc and mobo you have. For example, 650i or 680i mobo can set lower multi for rams.
ah_khoo
QUOTE(PeowYong @ Nov 15 2007, 01:13 PM)
any way to set the multiplier not 1:1 or higher?
coz i think my ram is limiting my oc...
now running 457x7 => 3.2 Ghz with stock voltage
means that my ram is doing 914 like that...
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if u think ya ram is limitin ya oc, last resort is runnin ya ram w lower multi, not all boards have these features thou. smile.gif

u can try to use low fsb with high ram multi, see how far d ram can go, correct me if i'm wrong... wink.gif
HiT-AbLe
QUOTE(kucingfight @ Nov 14 2007, 05:47 PM)
ya it depends, but assuming the CPU has hit the 400fsb wall, increasing Vnb wouldnt help either, especially on those E2XXX.
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So E2XXX is hopeless for overclocking? Or have to choose stepping? M0 steeping good or not?
ah_khoo
QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Nov 15 2007, 05:28 PM)
So E2XXX is hopeless for overclocking? Or have to choose stepping? M0 steeping good or not?
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E21x0 is hopeless in oc? u gotta be kiddin me mate. don't expect a chip to be able to do 100% of oc easily, not with air cooling atleast. am contented to run my e2140 @ 2.8~2.9GHz, on stock it only runs @ 1.6GHz... smile.gif
clawhammer
I'm running ORTHOS at 8 x 400 @ 1.375Vcore but CPU-z and Core Temp is not reporting the Vcore correctly. Is this a normal behaviour?

Btw, my full load temp is at 69C now. I think it's time to replace that stock cooler smile.gif
extremeocer
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 16 2007, 02:04 AM)
I'm running ORTHOS at 8 x 400 @ 1.375Vcore but CPU-z and Core Temp is not reporting the Vcore correctly. Is this a normal behaviour?

Btw, my full load temp is at 69C now. I think it's time to replace that stock cooler smile.gif
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It normal....what you set in bios is sometimes different in windows. It's caused by vdroop.
plankton
tried the f6 bios for p35 d/s3l.. actual voltages are reported in bios instead of OK, and the profiles can be saved... i couldnt save profiles on f4. also, the option1 and 2 for memory have been removed. cant think of any thing else thats different.

i changed to f3 bios since the f6 didnt solve my cold boot problems.. once i know whats causing it maybe ill try the f6 again.
clawhammer
I have the same darn cold boot problem. Btw, what Vcore do you guys run at on 3.0-3.2Ghz range?
allenultra
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 16 2007, 03:14 PM)
I have the same darn cold boot problem. Btw, what Vcore do you guys run at on 3.0-3.2Ghz range?
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Depend on batch, goldfries' E2140 did 3.2ghz with stock vcore.

My E2160 stock vcore max out at 2.9ghz, 3.0ghz at 1.35vcore. 3.2ghz at 1.45vcore.

For P35-S3L, its normal that cpu-z show lower vcore than Vbios u set.
CoreTEMP should only show ur stock vcore, which I believed to 1.325v
clawhammer
Thanks allenultra - how about your full load temps and what cooler do you use?
allenultra
2.9ghz, 1.325vbios, full load 51c
3.0ghz, 1.35vbios, full load 54c
3.2ghz, 1.45vcore, full load 65c

Coolermaster GeminII with 2 Icute LED Fans
fesick
any result for 6550?
clawhammer
I set my Vcore as 1.387 but in CPU-Z, it varies between 1.328 - 1.344
I'm now running at 395 x 8 with full load temps around 66-68C (stress testing with Orthos)

One good thing about this Intel chip is that if you're idling or doing something simple that doesn't stresses the CPU that much, the temp drops a lot (as low as 36C)

I hope I could hit 3.2Ghz soon biggrin.gif
fesick
hope someone post their 6550 stock vcore result..huhu
allenultra
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 17 2007, 06:06 PM)
I set my Vcore as 1.387 but in CPU-Z, it varies between 1.328 - 1.344

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Its normal. That's what we called vdroop.
P965, P35 chipset have this kind of "nice" feature. lol
My vbios is 1.35v, speedfan show 1.3v
clawhammer
Hmm, interesting.
Well, I guess I made it to 3.2Ghz @ 1.40675v
The temperature is a sad thing to mention tho'. I either get a good HSF or a water block.
extremeocer
QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 17 2007, 08:11 PM)
Its normal. That's what we called vdroop.
P965, P35 chipset have this kind of "nice" feature. lol
My vbios is 1.35v, speedfan show 1.3v
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correction there....not all P35 got vdroop. GA-P35-DQ6 has got no droop problem. Btw, what set in bios and what's shown in windows is not called vdroop.
wodenus
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 17 2007, 08:22 PM)
Hmm, interesting.
Well, I guess I made it to 3.2Ghz @ 1.40675v
The temperature is a sad thing to mention tho'. I either get a good HSF or a water block.
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or a phase-cooler ? smile.gif
clawhammer
QUOTE(wodenus @ Nov 18 2007, 03:25 AM)
or a phase-cooler ? smile.gif
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If Mr. extremeocer allows credit card 12-month easy payment or 50% off Christmas sales, why not? biggrin.gif
wodenus
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 18 2007, 03:28 AM)
If Mr. extremeocer allows credit card 12-month easy payment or 50% off Christmas sales, why not? biggrin.gif
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LOL.. well he just might who knows ? smile.gif anyway it costs as much as a real water-cooler unit, and you get lower temps smile.gif
clawhammer
Yeah, I think it's a good choice to spend on the custom phase change as opposed to a water cooling set smile.gif I'm more concerned about the reliability of the phase change instead.
billytong
I know you guys have the Intel core CPUs, but I have


I have a crap Intel mobo, D945GNT.
together with a overclocker CPU Pentium D 805 (2.66GHz) using stock cooler.

We all know that Intel boards do not have overclocking tweaks in BIOS.

Have checked Intel Desktop Control Center. It didnt list it support this board.

But I googled and found out that people still manage to overclock by using software.

Anyone here got experience on this?

Just wish to OC it to 166FSB(667) FSB or 3.32GHz cpu without cracking my wallet to buy new mobo or cooler. tongue.gif
heng84
anyone pairing up gigabyte 965p-ds3 rev 3.3 with q6600 g0 stepping, i got( 8800 gt graphic card,crucial ballistix rams, silverstone 560w psu with it)? any probs with temperature or oc capability? . i dont knwo anything though.. this is the mobo that i bought 2months ago (used).. but still waiting my processor from strongbaby. is it a good mobo for quadcore? i have had read the reviews on it but all based on duo core. just want to make sure its good for quad use as well.. any one can help me?
clawhammer
QUOTE(heng84 @ Nov 19 2007, 12:49 AM)
anyone pairing up gigabyte 965p-ds3 rev 3.3 with q6600 g0 stepping, i got( 8800 gt graphic card,crucial ballistix rams, silverstone 560w psu with it)? any probs with temperature or oc capability? . i dont knwo anything though.. this is the mobo that i bought 2months ago (used).. but still waiting my processor from strongbaby. is it a good mobo for quadcore? i have had read the reviews on it but all based on duo core. just want to make sure its good for quad use as well.. any one can help me?
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You have one good system. Rich guy biggrin.gif
extremeocer
QUOTE(heng84 @ Nov 19 2007, 12:49 AM)
anyone pairing up gigabyte 965p-ds3 rev 3.3 with q6600 g0 stepping, i got( 8800 gt graphic card,crucial ballistix rams, silverstone 560w psu with it)? any probs with temperature or oc capability? . i dont knwo anything though.. this is the mobo that i bought 2months ago (used).. but still waiting my processor from strongbaby. is it a good mobo for quadcore? i have had read the reviews on it but all based on duo core. just want to make sure its good for quad use as well.. any one can help me?
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It isn't the best for quad but it's decnt enough as long as you don't plan to OC your quad. Moderate OC is fine though. You should at least get a P35.
wodenus
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 18 2007, 07:03 PM)
Yeah, I think it's a good choice to spend on the custom phase change as opposed to a water cooling set smile.gif I'm more concerned about the reliability of the phase change instead.
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I don't know.. I think technically speaking, the only real difference between a water cooler and a phase cooler is that one uses water and the other uses refrigerant smile.gif so reliability-wise it's probably the same.
ah_khoo
QUOTE(heng84 @ Nov 19 2007, 12:49 AM)
anyone pairing up gigabyte 965p-ds3 rev 3.3 with q6600 g0 stepping, i got( 8800 gt graphic card,crucial ballistix rams, silverstone 560w psu with it)? any probs with temperature or oc capability? . i dont knwo anything though.. this is the mobo that i bought 2months ago (used).. but still waiting my processor from strongbaby. is it a good mobo for quadcore? i have had read the reviews on it but all based on duo core. just want to make sure its good for quad use as well.. any one can help me?
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it's decent enuf for dual core but for quad it mite not brin d best outta ya chip. our board (yes, i'm usin d same board as u) has only 3 phase something (power or wat so ever rclxub.gif ), but those high end board have 6 phase. however, am please with d board itself considerin d price it cost me. smile.gif

pls correct me if i'm wrong. wink.gif

something to share with u guys... tongue.gif

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clawhammer
Hey guys, can some of you share what's the maximum FSB, voltage and timing you manage to achieve with your Hynix FP-Y5? I have been running it at 395x8 @ 2.40 (5:6) which means literally, it's running at 474. The timings are 15-5-5-5 and I have to bump hell lot of Vdimm to it sad.gif
ah_khoo
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 19 2007, 11:05 AM)
Hey guys, can some of you share what's the maximum FSB, voltage and timing you manage to achieve with your Hynix FP-Y5? I have been running it at 395x8 @ 2.40 (5:6) which means literally, it's running at 474. The timings are 15-5-5-5 and I have to bump hell lot of Vdimm to it sad.gif
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how much juice u fetch to ya ram bro? i would say 2.2v & below are safe for 24/7 usage. they advice active coolin to be used for vdimm 2.2v & above IIRC. wink.gif

for d capability of ram achievin certain MHz depend on batch, however, i reckon that hynix chippies can do ~1000MHz (DDR500) @ loose timin w/o any problem... smile.gif
heng84
QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 19 2007, 02:34 AM)
You have one good system. Rich guy biggrin.gif
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bro i not rich guy or trying to show off my system la some of the stuff i have is used, upgrade to better rig so that it can last for at least 3years or so. i just want to ask whether the mobo is good enuff for newer generation processor only. whether its good for oc or not. and i list out my other hardwares is to make sure that i dont get flamed/ simple answers such as "you need to have a good psu and ram to accomodate it" nod.gif

anyway thanks for the feedback guys.. really appreciate it. i am a newbie and wanna try oc so i just try my luck asking here anyway this thread is so helpful.
clawhammer
ah_khoo, unfortunately I need 2.3V to get it running at that point. If I were to bump it higher, it might need even more sad.gif I'll try it out tonight.

No worries heng84 smile.gif I was just kidding on the earlier part.
kucingfight
QUOTE(heng84 @ Nov 19 2007, 12:49 AM)
anyone pairing up gigabyte 965p-ds3 rev 3.3 with q6600 g0 stepping, i got( 8800 gt graphic card,crucial ballistix rams, silverstone 560w psu with it)? any probs with temperature or oc capability? . i dont knwo anything though.. this is the mobo that i bought 2months ago (used).. but still waiting my processor from strongbaby. is it a good mobo for quadcore? i have had read the reviews on it but all based on duo core. just want to make sure its good for quad use as well.. any one can help me?
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Yeah, as extremeocer mentioned, do get a P35 based mobo, they are optimised for quadcore Ocing (if Ocing is your concern) . else, P965 will do juz fine, but limiting your Ocing headroom

QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 19 2007, 11:56 AM)
ah_khoo, unfortunately I need 2.3V to get it running at that point. If I were to bump it higher, it might need even more sad.gif I'll try it out tonight.

No worries heng84 smile.gif I was just kidding on the earlier part.
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yeah i remember pumping to 2.4v , managed to hit >DDR2 1100 5-6-6-15, on FP Y5, got a screenie somewhere. laugh.gif
heng84
QUOTE(kucingfight @ Nov 19 2007, 12:19 PM)
Yeah, as extremeocer mentioned, do get a P35 based mobo, they are optimised for quadcore Ocing (if Ocing is your concern) . else, P965 will do juz fine, but limiting your Ocing headroom
yeah i remember pumping to 2.4v , managed to hit >DDR2 1100 5-6-6-15, on FP Y5, got a screenie somewhere.  laugh.gif
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hmmm say if i target from 2.66ghz can hit 3.2ghz or not?.. cos have to wait for sometime only then can change mobo.. now really tight budget.
Jibek
Hi bro.,I'm a newbie here.,i just want to ask.,can I change the multiplier for E6300 in BIOS..tq
clawhammer
I guess my FP-Y5 are total crap? The moment I reduce 0.1V and it turns unstable sad.gif I need 2.3V to run 474 irregardless. Maybe I should try out Rev A?
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