t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 16 2007, 11:28 PM
QUOTE(likito @ Aug 16 2007, 07:44 PM)
wah! thanks for the info . thermalright chipset cooler good or not ?
y not try Gigabyte G-Power Pro...?

it's lite and silent...
mfcm
Aug 16 2007, 11:36 PM
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 16 2007, 11:28 PM)
y not try Gigabyte G-Power Pro...?

it's lite and silent...

erk..i tot likito askin for chipset cooler..not proc cooler
rockmaniac85
Aug 17 2007, 01:02 AM
QUOTE(likito @ Aug 16 2007, 06:44 PM)
wah! thanks for the info . thermalright chipset cooler good or not ?
thermalright wan good also.. but if you can, try getting the noctua nc-u6! Shawty will definitely recommend this one as well..
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 17 2007, 01:04 AM
QUOTE(mfcm @ Aug 17 2007, 12:36 AM)
erk..i tot likito askin for chipset cooler..not proc cooler

oh... my bad... how bout cooler master blue ice...?
toughnut
Aug 17 2007, 09:55 AM
QUOTE(hiphop @ Aug 16 2007, 05:38 PM)
i am new in Gigabyte board, is P35C-DS3R a stable board? i will using it to go 3.6G for my E6600, anyone here using this board, appreciate feedback

if ur proc is tested capable of 3.6G, then i guess no problem. P35 is known to hit excess of 500FSB. btw, that's a good budget board
SlayerXT
Aug 17 2007, 12:55 PM
For chipset cooler why not try TT Extreme Spirit II..
rockmaniac85
Aug 17 2007, 12:58 PM
QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 17 2007, 12:55 PM)
For chipset cooler why not try TT Extreme Spirit II..

TT wan no good for chipset cooler. i read somewhere but i can't remember for now..
chipset cooler, best ones is TR something something, and the noctua nc-u6.
the latter is the better
rainingzero
Aug 17 2007, 02:41 PM
need help regarding my mobo here. using cheap2 abit ip-95 (2ndhand only) and try to oc my cedar mill 631. the prob here is:
seems i can't exceed Fsb228*15= 3.42Ghz. over than that can't log in to the windows.
am i reached the FSB wall??i think my proc can push more, maybe 3.7ghz??i read through reviews from the internet, seems most of them can oc more than 1Ghz with this mobo. try to search for divider setting, but can't find one...
toughnut
Aug 17 2007, 05:35 PM
@ben3003
try apply TIM and reseat ur HSF again. it shouldn't be that hot. btw, vcore 1.26v or 1.36v?
genkis3
Aug 17 2007, 06:01 PM
hi all,
my rig currently running on
e6600 367x9 , 3.3ghz 24/7
p35-ds3
mch,fsb,pci all default voltage.
vdim +0.2v, vcore 1.375v
run 2 x orthos 9hours stable
aircon off,
orthos temps: mobo46* core0 58* core1 58*
idle temps : mobo47* core0 40* core1 38*
mobo temp idle 47* and run orthos 46* ... how come idle get higher temps?
i remember last time i put mch +1v , fsb +1v , only run at 45*
higher volt get lower temps?
so idle 47* consider high? what's average gigabyte mobo temps?
and also what should i set my "high speed dram dll setting"? heard d9 ram suitable for option2 but my ram is kingston hyperx,not d9 ram rite..? so is better for me to set option1 or option2 ?
thanks
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 17 2007, 09:12 PM
QUOTE(rainingzero @ Aug 17 2007, 03:41 PM)
... my cedar mill 631....
har...? cedar mill or prescott...?

Cedar mill is celeron 3 series lar...
rainingzero
Aug 18 2007, 02:53 AM
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 17 2007, 09:12 PM)
har...? cedar mill or prescott...?

Cedar mill is celeron 3 series lar...

cedar mill 631, 65nm 3.0Ghz, stated in cpu-z. if presscott 630, 90nm...
try to increase voltage, but the result still same....
PCcrazy
Aug 18 2007, 02:14 PM
My P35-DS3 can easily do 450 currently without tempering with anything. I can't remember in my time overclocking was a child's play. How far can it go? I couldnt be bothered since have enough and the board is not holding me by any means. A great value buy but if you are looking to boost your egos, go and find some better boards.
genkis3 it doesnt hurt to try option2 does it? If you pass prime then you are good to go. Otherwise you can always switch back to option1.
My temp monitoring tool in BIOS and Windows reported wicked temp. I got 6 degrees and 100 respectively. So I use a hand touch the heatsink method. My previous experience with past procs is enough to tell me whether I'm safe or not.
kmarc
Aug 18 2007, 04:26 PM
QUOTE(genkis3 @ Aug 17 2007, 06:01 PM)
hi all,
my rig currently running on
e6600 367x9 , 3.3ghz 24/7
p35-ds3
mch,fsb,pci all default voltage.
vdim +0.2v, vcore 1.375v
run 2 x orthos 9hours stable
aircon off,
orthos temps: mobo46* core0 58* core1 58*
idle temps : mobo47* core0 40* core1 38*
mobo temp idle 47* and run orthos 46* ... how come idle get higher temps?
i remember last time i put mch +1v , fsb +1v , only run at 45*
higher volt get lower temps?
so idle 47* consider high? what's average gigabyte mobo temps?
and also what should i set my "high speed dram dll setting"? heard d9 ram suitable for option2 but my ram is kingston hyperx,not d9 ram rite..? so is better for me to set option1 or option2 ?
thanks
I'm using the P35-DS3 also. These are the observations I've made on this excellent board:
1) Can OC the bus speed to 480mhz without any increase in vMCH or vFSB. So, I don't think you need to increase yours as your bus speed is only at 367mhz.
2) Mobo (system) temp is actually referring to the southbridge temperature. The northbridge doesn't have a temperature sensor. 47'c for the southbridge is high, I think. Imagine what the temperature for the northbridge will be!!! Can't compare with my system temp as mine is a naked rig. (System temp at 40'c only....

)
3) For my crucial ballistix (which has D9 rams), no difference in overclockability between option 1 and 2.... Like what PCcrazy said, you can try both options and see whether it helps or not.
toughnut
Aug 18 2007, 05:05 PM
my system temp usually hover around 50C. when touched northbridge or southbridge, i can't touch it more than 5secs

too hot
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 19 2007, 09:49 AM
QUOTE(toughnut @ Aug 18 2007, 06:05 PM)
my system temp usually hover around 50C. when touched northbridge or southbridge, i can't touch it more than 5secs

too hot
south and north bridge are usually memang hotter than proc...

i tried even GA-945GCMX-S2 wif Intel Celeron 420... the fan stop spinning cuz it's cool enough but the northbridge sink is so hot... blowing it wif an 8cm fan helps a lot...
likito
Aug 19 2007, 10:33 AM
hey guy , wat is the diff between gigabyte P965 DS3 and S3 ?
rockmaniac85
Aug 19 2007, 11:34 AM
the letter "D"

but IINM, D stands for durability, thus, the one with D is more durable i.e. using solid capacitors..
correct me if im wrong..
likito
Aug 19 2007, 12:20 PM
QUOTE(rockmaniac85 @ Aug 19 2007, 11:34 AM)
the letter "D"

but IINM, D stands for durability, thus, the one with D is more durable i.e. using solid capacitors..
correct me if im wrong..
oic . then wat is IINM ?
rockmaniac85
Aug 19 2007, 12:47 PM
IINM = If I'm Not Mistaken..
likito
Aug 19 2007, 12:51 PM
QUOTE(rockmaniac85 @ Aug 19 2007, 12:47 PM)
IINM = If I'm Not Mistaken..
oic .. thanks for the info ...
genkis3
Aug 19 2007, 07:55 PM
icic... so 47* is possible in non aircond+closed casing la. not my mobo problem..
dont wish to put more fan blowing mobo la coz prefer quiet operation...
hopefully 47* won't give me trouble running it 7/24
aii
Aug 19 2007, 10:36 PM
hey guys,
i'm new to oc's..
and i dunno anything bout this.
so can u help me....
how to overclock an original intel motherboard??
i just got my new pc (dc7700).
-core2duo e6400
-asus gf8600gts 256mb
-2x1BGB DDR2 RAM
-Intel stock fan
Are_keem
Aug 19 2007, 10:51 PM
dont think intel's mobo are overclockable.
IIANM, only Bad Axe model support overclocking.
did your pc is branded one (acer, hp, etc..) ?
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 21 2007, 01:33 AM
QUOTE(genkis3 @ Aug 19 2007, 08:55 PM)
icic... so 47* is possible in non aircond+closed casing la. not my mobo problem..
dont wish to put more fan blowing mobo la coz prefer quiet operation...
hopefully 47* won't give me trouble running it 7/24
go get a 1200rpm cheap fan good enough... 900rpm also can...
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 21 2007, 10:08 AM
QUOTE(aii @ Aug 19 2007, 11:36 PM)
hey guys,
i'm new to oc's..
and i dunno anything bout this.
so can u help me....
how to overclock an original intel motherboard??
i just got my new pc (dc7700).
-core2duo e6400
-asus gf8600gts 256mb
-2x1BGB DDR2 RAM
-Intel stock fan
as far as i know... only 975XBX2 can OC...
aii
Aug 23 2007, 09:27 AM
QUOTE(Are_keem @ Aug 19 2007, 10:51 PM)
dont think intel's mobo are overclockable.
IIANM, only Bad Axe model support overclocking.
did your pc is branded one (acer, hp, etc..) ?
hp dc7700
adoi, can't overclock ar??
hm is there any other way to oc??
what is the best motherboard to overclock and reasonable prices?
cus i'm still a secndr school student lorh. can't offord one.. ;pP
tycheah_7
Aug 23 2007, 10:53 AM
guys, im getting my new mobo to pair with a E6750 this weekend. Currently puzzled between Gigabyte P53-DS3 or P53-DS3R. Should i fork out the extra rm100+ for the ICH9R ? I would actually not be using RAID but would be doing some OC. So which unti would have a better OC capability... ?
Cheers!
kmarc
Aug 23 2007, 11:26 AM
QUOTE(tycheah_7 @ Aug 23 2007, 10:53 AM)
guys, im getting my new mobo to pair with a E6750 this weekend. Currently puzzled between Gigabyte P53-DS3 or P53-DS3R. Should i fork out the extra rm100+ for the ICH9R ? I would actually not be using RAID but would be doing some OC. So which unti would have a better OC capability... ?
Cheers!
It's P35. Anyway, AFAIK, they are exactly the same except for the ICH9R which includes better RAID capabilities. In terms of OC, I think they have the same capabilities.
Better ones like the P35-DS3P is supposedly slightly better in OCing compared to the DS3. IIRC, not by much though.... you don't really need a high FSB/bus speed as the E6750 would have a FSB wall limit.
FYI, the DS3 also comes with RAID functions although more limited options.
My advice, if the gigabyte is your choice, then the DS3 should be enough....
Are_keem
Aug 23 2007, 11:32 AM
QUOTE(aii @ Aug 23 2007, 09:27 AM)
hp dc7700
adoi, can't overclock ar??
hm is there any other way to oc??
what is the best motherboard to overclock and reasonable prices?
cus i'm still a secndr school student lorh. can't offord one.. ;pP
yes, most [or maybe all] branded PC such as dell have lock the OC option in BIOS.
wanna change mobo? ur budget?
OT :
but hey, i'm secondary school student too. younger than you. haha..-adios-
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 23 2007, 01:03 PM
QUOTE(Are_keem @ Aug 23 2007, 12:32 PM)
yes, most [or maybe all] branded PC such as dell have lock the OC option in BIOS.
wanna change mobo? ur budget?
OT :
but hey, i'm secondary school student too. younger than you. haha..-adios-
i don think changing mobo for branded PC is good idea...

sometimes the mobo they use the connectors are not standard 1's...
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 23 2007, 01:14 PM
QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 23 2007, 12:26 PM)
It's P35. Anyway, AFAIK, they are exactly the same except for the ICH9R which includes better RAID capabilities. In terms of OC, I think they have the same capabilities.
Better ones like the P35-DS3P is supposedly slightly better in OCing compared to the DS3. IIRC, not by much though.... you don't really need a high FSB/bus speed as the E6750 would have a FSB wall limit.
FYI, the DS3 also comes with RAID functions although more limited options.
My advice, if the gigabyte is your choice, then the DS3 should be enough....

err... actually if i not mistaken i did see a RAID option in DS3...

minus RAID 5 & 10...
DS3L is the RAIDless 1...
kmarc
Aug 23 2007, 01:35 PM
QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 23 2007, 11:26 AM)
It's P35. Anyway, AFAIK, they are exactly the same except for the ICH9R which includes better RAID capabilities. In terms of OC, I think they have the same capabilities.
Better ones like the P35-DS3P is supposedly slightly better in OCing compared to the DS3. IIRC, not by much though.... you don't really need a high FSB/bus speed as the E6750 would have a FSB wall limit.
FYI, the DS3 also comes with
RAID functions although more limited options.My advice, if the gigabyte is your choice, then the DS3 should be enough....

QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 23 2007, 01:14 PM)
err... actually if i not mistaken i did see a RAID option in DS3...

minus RAID 5 & 10...
DS3L is the RAIDless 1...
Errr.... as stated in my reply. See the bolded words above....
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 23 2007, 01:58 PM
QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 23 2007, 02:35 PM)
Errr.... as stated in my reply. See the bolded words above....

woops... sorry... not enough sleep lately...
toughnut
Aug 23 2007, 03:02 PM
if budget limited, just get DS3. if need dual bios, firewire, better northbridge cooler, get DS3P. in term of OC, doesn't differ much
ataris
Aug 23 2007, 03:11 PM
raid is not important, screw those rm100.
toughnut
Aug 23 2007, 04:20 PM
just check and noticed that the oversized heatpipe cooler on DS3P has been removed since revision 1.1. newer revision 2.0 removed legacy port and replaced it with 4 USB ports.
i still prefer my old big @ss heatpipe on my board
Clavicus
Aug 23 2007, 06:42 PM
Just OCed my E6320 on P35C-DS3 to 455 x 7 but when i use CPU-Z or core temp, its stated as 454 x 7. As a result the core clock is at a weird 3.178Ghz. Anyone knows why is this happening?
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 24 2007, 12:42 AM
QUOTE(Clavicus @ Aug 23 2007, 07:42 PM)
Just OCed my E6320 on P35C-DS3 to 455 x 7 but when i use CPU-Z or core temp, its stated as 454 x 7. As a result the core clock is at a weird 3.178Ghz. Anyone knows why is this happening?
it's pretty normal... check
this out...
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 24 2007, 12:53 AM
QUOTE(toughnut @ Aug 23 2007, 04:02 PM)
if budget limited, just get DS3. if need dual bios, firewire, better northbridge cooler, get DS3P. in term of OC, doesn't differ much
DS3 and DQ6 do diff pretty much... i can't go more than 400 on DS3 wif vCore 1.37... but i manage to reach 433 on DQ6...

on same vCore...
Added on September 6, 2007, 3:27 pmit's said tat this was done on
GA-965P-DS4...
more details
here

imagine wat can be done on P35...
aii
Aug 25 2007, 09:16 PM
duh. but i got no money lol.
haha. erm mayb aroung 4~5 hundred..
asus P5 series is okay x?? haha
i was planning to buy gf card(asus 8600GT).
is that okay if i wanna play bioshock, farcry2, or fallout??
cus i'm lil bit confs which one is alright. i just got rm500 lol. ;pP
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 28 2007, 07:06 PM
QUOTE(aii @ Aug 25 2007, 10:16 PM)
duh. but i got no money lol.
haha. erm mayb aroung 4~5 hundred..
asus P5 series is okay x?? haha
i was planning to buy gf card(asus 8600GT).
is that okay if i wanna play bioshock, farcry2, or fallout??
cus i'm lil bit confs which one is alright. i just got rm500 lol. ;pP
RM500 not enough la... n if u no OC then Asus might be good enough for u but i still think it's not worth it's price... better go for Abit or Gigabyte... wat proc u got...? if it's not the new C2D/Celeron 4 series then u can use my Gigabyte GA-945GCMX-S2... good for u to save up to get a 8500GT/8600GT...
aii
Aug 29 2007, 04:09 PM
C2D E6400..
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 29 2007, 07:55 PM
QUOTE(aii @ Aug 29 2007, 05:09 PM)
ooo... in tat case GA-P35-DS3 should be good enough 4 u... RM405
SlayerXT
Aug 29 2007, 11:12 PM
QUOTE(aii @ Aug 25 2007, 09:16 PM)
duh. but i got no money lol.
haha. erm mayb aroung 4~5 hundred..
asus P5 series is okay x?? haha
i was planning to buy gf card(asus 8600GT).
is that okay if i wanna play bioshock, farcry2, or fallout??
cus i'm lil bit confs which one is alright. i just got rm500 lol. ;pP
Did u plan to buy mobo or gc first? For RM500 can get P35-DS3R already. ASUS 8600GT also around RM500.
t3chn0m4nc3r
Aug 30 2007, 07:12 PM
yeah... i forgot bout GC pulak...
if u want good budget board + GC then i suggest Abit LG-95C RM180 + Forsa 8600GT RM300+

this Abit board got dual PCIe 16X close to each other so tat u can add a physx card later on....
Gigabyte also got but it's far apart ngam ngam for crossfire but 1 PCIe 16X n the other is 4X...
hiphop
Aug 30 2007, 08:39 PM
u also can get P35C-DS3R for around RM500 and this board can support DDR3. it's enought for midlde clocker.
t3chn0m4nc3r
Sep 1 2007, 02:56 PM
QUOTE(hiphop @ Aug 30 2007, 09:39 PM)
u also can get P35C-DS3R for around RM500 and this board can support DDR3. it's enought for midlde clocker.

it's enough for any clocker using mid range and below proc... cuz the proc power is juz 4 pin...
ugh, i dun really know.
1st of all, i just wanna play the latest game like bioshock, far cry....
then maybe some oc job to the pc..
em do you think i need to overclock my pc, or just buy the gc to play the game??
bryanyeo87
Sep 2 2007, 04:17 PM
first person shooter games rely more on gc then cpu
To break it down for you
No oc = more expensive (u buy more expensive stuff but do not oc it)
OC = cheaper (u buy cheaper stuff but oc it)
this is a general picture la..
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