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etsuko
I'm rather new to OCing an Intel..

Just wondering what is an average temp for E6300 @

1. 2.4Ghz
2. 3.0 Ghz

...using stock cooling and a Li-an Li full alu casing.

Regards.

t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(etsuko @ Jul 19 2007, 10:44 PM)
I'm rather new to OCing an Intel..

Just wondering what is an average temp for E6300 @

1. 2.4Ghz
2. 3.0 Ghz

...using stock cooling and a Li-an Li full alu casing.

Regards.
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well... it be best to keep Intel Core Procs temp ard 63 and below...
BTW... Nice Casing... I always admire those Lian Li casings in ATE HQ... especially the 1ce wif RM1k price tags 1... drool.gif very good air flow design and extremely solid... thumbup.gif
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(alanishev @ Jul 19 2007, 08:55 PM)
i've got a problem ere...i hope somebody will help..
as you all can see on my specs below..i only manage to oc e2160 to 210mhzx9, that is a shame becoz this cpu can oc near 100%.. i donno whats wrong but at 211mhzx9, the screen goes blank..but it log on to windows..i know it has log on to windows by hearing the windows logon sound..is it faulty gc, mobo, ram, or my psu not 'strong' enough...

lot of thanx to somebody can help...
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set ur PCIe frequency to 100... icon_rolleyes.gif
i think ur board FSB stability wall is also 480... same wif me... shakehead.gif i can get 500x7 but not stable at all...
manage to get 17sec in 1M superPI... at 3.36GHz... at 1.38V... full load temp 66 on core temp... so i don dare to keep tat speed... stay at 2.8GHz at 1.28V safer... full load 58... thumbup.gif
etsuko
I think my rig is running warm due to the room and the placement... sad.gif

If I Orthos @ 2.4Ghz, not even 5 minutes I can already hit 60+ so in 10 minutes definetely 70. cry.gif

Looks like I'll have to invest in a copper heatsink..

Does anyone know what Zalman models are compatible with a Gigabyte DS3 rev 3.3 ?

Thanks.
darude87
hi guys , i need help on OC my pentium D 805
since ppl told me my proc is holding back my GC so i decided to oc
this is my rig setup
pentium D 805 @ 2.66ghz
msi 945PL neo
apacer 512MB ddr2 533mhz X2
galaxy 7900GS
coolermaster extreme power 430watt

i went bios to look for several settings, i can see ram steppings, i can see fsb, but i couldn't find where to change vcore for proc and multiplier

hope you guys can help me,thx
AceCombat
QUOTE(darude87 @ Jul 21 2007, 11:57 AM)
hi guys , i need help on OC my pentium D 805
since ppl told me my proc is holding back my GC so i decided to oc
this is my rig setup
pentium D 805 @ 2.66ghz
msi 945PL neo
apacer 512MB ddr2 533mhz X2
galaxy 7900GS
coolermaster extreme power 430watt

i went bios to look for several settings, i can see ram steppings, i can see fsb, but i couldn't find where to change vcore  for proc and multiplier

hope you guys can help me,thx
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first of all,get urself a better psu,if u wanna oc,some more with 7900GS,how many hdd u running?

and if u wanna oc ur 820,get urself a better hsf first only u do it,or else,u r feeding a fire dragon. nod.gif
darude87
QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 21 2007, 01:09 PM)
first of all,get urself a better psu,if u wanna oc,some more with 7900GS,how many hdd u running?

and if u wanna oc ur 820,get urself a better hsf first only u do it,or else,u r feeding a fire dragon. nod.gif
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haha....changed my hsf already,currently using noctua
psu not enough juice ah? so far i'm running 1 hdd, 1 dvd rom, 1 dvd burner

ps: i thought mine is 805? its 820 ka?
AceCombat
QUOTE(darude87 @ Jul 21 2007, 01:59 PM)
haha....changed my hsf already,currently using noctua
psu not enough juice ah? so far i'm running 1 hdd, 1 dvd rom, 1 dvd burner

ps: i thought mine is 805? its 820 ka?
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eh,eye shooting bird,it's 805.

anyway,base on ur rig setup,if some more wanna oc,i suggest u really change ur psu to better one,it is not a reliable psu.

get a 400W pure power strider can do the oc job perfectly.
darude87
QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 21 2007, 02:59 PM)
eh,eye shooting bird,it's 805.

anyway,base on ur rig setup,if some more wanna oc,i suggest u really change ur psu to better one,it is not a reliable psu.

get a 400W pure power strider can do the oc job perfectly.
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hmm,before changing my psu, got few questions, i suspect my bios lock certain features
cause i couldn't find multiplier settings and i can view but can't change my vcore
SlayerXT
As AceCombat said, u need to change PSU. But why not to try Gigabyte 945P-DS3 first. It much more able to oc than MSI Neo.
rainingzero
QUOTE(darude87 @ Jul 21 2007, 04:16 PM)
hmm,before changing my psu, got few questions, i suspect my bios lock certain features
cause i couldn't find multiplier settings and i can view but can't change my vcore
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suppose there's some option to change the vcore. even my low end abit ip-95 got this option....
isildur88
my 820 ok when oc but dun dare to push again... but really need to get a new hsf... wat do you guyz recommend? my buget around 100 to 120 oni...
AceCombat
if rm100 like that i think Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro is the best choice.

as for the mobo,a Biostar 965PT is highly recommended,only rm370!!!
isildur88
if i put in a bit more money for better cooling... wat u think i should get? and wat the price....
VT-Ten
LYP is selling TTBT VX for RM165. its the most affordable "high end" cooler.
it's a steal if you ask me. wink.gif


Added on July 23, 2007, 1:49 am
QUOTE(darude87 @ Jul 21 2007, 11:57 AM)
hi guys , i need help on OC my pentium D 805
since ppl told me my proc is holding back my GC so i decided to oc
this is my rig setup
pentium D 805 @ 2.66ghz
msi 945PL neo
apacer 512MB ddr2 533mhz X2
galaxy 7900GS
coolermaster extreme power 430watt

i went bios to look for several settings, i can see ram steppings, i can see fsb, but i couldn't find where to change vcore  for proc and multiplier

hope you guys can help me,thx
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dude, check my siggie. my torrent rig is oc-ed using the same psu that you are using. running 24/7, summore with stock (lapped) hsf.
idle temp 42C load orthos 56C. i dont see if there's any problem keeping your psu.
SlayerXT
TT bIg Typhoon is the best Budget mainstream oc'ker. Already using E6850 @ 4GHz, VT-ten?
VT-Ten
QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 23 2007, 01:50 AM)
TT bIg Typhoon is the best Budget mainstream oc'ker. Already using E6850 @ 4GHz, VT-ten?
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not yet dude. still in the midst of max clock attempt and looking for the sweetest spot for daily use biggrin.gif
tryer
I am using E6600 + Gigabyte 965G-DS3
Hyperx kingstone Ram 2x512 (800 -4 -4 -4 -12)

Manage to overclock over 3Gz but it failed to detect my Hard Disk..

Any1 know whats wrong here?? is it cause less power to boot it up?
If yes, what's the setting i should put in Bios setup?

& about the FSB : DRAM 1:1 / 2:3 (Ram) <-- how i set it? mine current is 2:3 how i manage to make it to 1:1 ?

& need more information , plz let me know smile.gif

hope to get some help here notworthy.gif
rockmaniac85
yo guys, my rig is as in my sig,

atm i have my system at 430fsb *7 = 3.01GHz and is orthos stable

fsb : dram is 1:1 obviously..

but when i bump my fsb to 450, or even 500, i *CAN* boot, but my orthos not stable anymore (shows error of rounding or some sort).. something wrong with the cpu..

my Vc is 1.200, i tried increasing to 1.300 when i bump my fsb to 500, but still orthos is not stable..

anyway i could be helped?
darude87
few more noob questions wanna ask sweat.gif
where to change fsb:dram ratio?
and i found out something, my proc vcore is not stable, it keeps changing (observed in cpu-z)

edit: read some reviews, it says multiplier for 805D is locked at 20X sweat.gif now the thing i'm most curious is,why my bios doesn't have option for me to change vcore
allenultra
QUOTE(alanishev @ Jul 19 2007, 07:55 PM)
i've got a problem ere...i hope somebody will help..
as you all can see on my specs below..i only manage to oc e2160 to 210mhzx9, that is a shame becoz this cpu can oc near 100%.. i donno whats wrong but at 211mhzx9, the screen goes blank..but it log on to windows..i know it has log on to windows by hearing the windows logon sound..is it faulty gc, mobo, ram, or my psu not 'strong' enough...

lot of thanx to somebody can help...
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u set the fsb:dram to 1:1 (ddr400)?
play with ram timing?

I can push to 300*9 with all stock voltage/hsf.
Going to push further with better hsf later
t3chn0m4nc3r
any1 here played Celeron 420...? it's dual core celeron running at 1.6GHz stock... i got a feeling tat it's basically PDC2140... hmm.gif
SlayerXT
So u might go till 3.0GHz only ler. Change to P35-DS3 ma...
darude87
QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 24 2007, 10:57 PM)
So u might go till 3.0GHz only ler. Change to P35-DS3 ma...
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planning to change board edi sweat.gif today tried to push at stock voltage, can't even break 3ghz barrier
rockmaniac85
guys, whats the ideal idle/load temp for c2d e6300 ah?
SlayerXT
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jul 24 2007, 08:51 PM)
any1 here played Celeron 420...? it's dual core celeron running at 1.6GHz stock... i got a feeling tat it's basically PDC2140... hmm.gif
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Maybe ppl think its not worth it bcoz just add RM100 can get dual-core E2140.
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 26 2007, 11:48 AM)
Maybe ppl think its not worth it bcoz just add RM100 can get dual-core E2140.
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but both same speed and multiplier wor... hmm.gif for me is juz RM80 diff... brows.gif
I got ~RM1000 to spend on CPU+mobo... which 1 should i take...?

GA-P35-DQ6 + Intel PDC 2140/2160
or
GA-P35-DS3 + Intel C2D E6750

I already got a GA-965P-DS4 + C2D E6300 but need another rig for my bro... so i wanna upgrade mine and give the balance to my bro... tongue.gif
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(darude87 @ Jul 24 2007, 01:04 PM)
few more noob questions wanna ask  sweat.gif
where to change fsb:dram ratio?
and i found out something, my proc vcore is not stable, it keeps changing (observed in cpu-z)

edit: read some reviews, it says multiplier for 805D is locked at 20X  sweat.gif  now the thing i'm most curious is,why my bios doesn't have option for me to change vcore
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damn... MSI boards i got no comments cuz i got bad exp wif most of them... even the sc939 K8N-Neo4H also... shakehead.gif

for PD805... OC will require maths skills... for ur RAM... there should be a multiplier instead of ratio... so if 1:1 u set to 2x... cuz it's 2/2=1...
so if u put 3.33x u have to divide 2 to get the DDR frequency... smile.gif
kmarc
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jul 26 2007, 04:09 PM)
but both same speed and multiplier wor... hmm.gif  for me is juz RM80 diff... brows.gif
I got ~RM1000 to spend on CPU+mobo... which 1 should i take...?

GA-P35-DQ6 + Intel PDC 2140/2160
or
GA-P35-DS3 + Intel C2D E6750

I already got a GA-965P-DS4 + C2D E6300 but need another rig for my bro... so i wanna upgrade mine and give the balance to my bro... tongue.gif
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I think the 2nd option is better as I just acquired the same configuration - GA-P35-DS3 + E6750.

I did much research on gigabyte mobos and found that the GA-P35-DS3 was suitable for me. Single PCI-E x16, ultradurable 2 features and no raid. Not much review on this board but I think it is equivalent to the GA-P35-DS3R mobo (which is only different by having the ICH9R chipset which includes the raid function). In terms of OC, this mobo is supposed to be able to go up to 490-500Mhz bus speed)

So far, I've tried a bus speed of 420Mhz and it worked flawlessly (at stock MCH/FSB voltages).

For the E6750, the only problem compared to the E6850 is the 8x multiplier. If you want to aim for 4Ghz (dunno whether possible or not), you would need a bus speed of 500Mhz!!!

So far, I'm orthosing my E6750 at 1.35v (stock voltage) at 3280Mhz. That's the highest stable OC I can get on stock voltage. Probably try higher voltages later.....
rockmaniac85
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 26 2007, 05:50 PM)

So far, I'm orthosing my E6750 at 1.35v (stock voltage) at 3280Mhz. That's the highest stable OC I can get on stock voltage. Probably try higher voltages later.....
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orthosing.. now that's a new word...

but yeah, the 2nd option is the better one "IN CASE* you're not gonna change your proc or mobo anytime soon. if you're planning for d proc soon, then the 1st option is nice.. once gathered lots of money, jus change the proc to a better performing one..
kmarc
QUOTE(rockmaniac85 @ Jul 26 2007, 06:04 PM)
orthosing.. now that's a new word...

but yeah, the 2nd option is the better one "IN CASE* you're not gonna change your proc or mobo anytime soon. if you're planning for d proc soon, then the 1st option is nice.. once gathered lots of money, jus change the proc to a better performing one..
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Orthosing? Nah, already used this word since dunno when....

Don't forget that most, if not all, P35 mobos are supposed to support the upcoming Intel 45nm CPUs e.g. penryn. That's the reason I got this mobo. Another reason why I got the E6750 instead of the E6850/Q6600. Planning to go for the penryn family of CPUs in the future..... rclxm9.gif
rockmaniac85
the future which lies ahead is not known so much for me, thus i'll keep this rig for now.. wait til 2-3 yrs then have a major haulass...
darude87
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jul 26 2007, 04:13 PM)
damn... MSI boards i got no comments cuz i got bad exp wif most of them... even the sc939 K8N-Neo4H also... shakehead.gif

for PD805... OC will require maths skills... for ur RAM... there should be a multiplier instead of ratio... so if 1:1 u set to 2x... cuz it's 2/2=1...
so if u put 3.33x u have to divide 2 to get the DDR frequency... smile.gif
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i think u just pointed out another thing i couldn't reach on my mobo sweat.gif
yesterday i found this guide, has anyone tried it? i know it sounds crazy, but i bet there's did that
http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3931
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 26 2007, 07:33 PM)
...the upcoming Intel 45nm CPUs e.g. penryn. That's the reason I got this mobo. Another reason why I got the E6750 instead of the E6850/Q6600. Planning to go for the penryn family of CPUs in the future.....  rclxm9.gif
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tat's the reason y i wanna get the 1st option cuz Celeron 420(Conroe-L) is supposed to be as good as E2140... hmm.gif Celeron 420 did 42sec in 1M super_PI on stock as compared to AMD X2 3800 which did 44sec on stock... even though the diff not big but price very big... sweat.gif tat can hold on until Penryn family... but i don need the RAID & the Big pipe thingy... Crossfire i might consider...


Added on July 27, 2007, 9:20 pm
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 26 2007, 06:50 PM)
I think the 2nd option is better as I just acquired the same configuration - GA-P35-DS3 + E6750.

I did much research on gigabyte mobos and found that the GA-P35-DS3 was suitable for me. Single PCI-E x16, ultradurable 2 features and no raid. Not much review on this board but I think it is equivalent to the GA-P35-DS3R mobo (which is only different by having the ICH9R chipset which includes the raid function). In terms of OC, this mobo is supposed to be able to go up to 490-500Mhz bus speed)

So far, I've tried a bus speed of 420Mhz and it worked flawlessly (at stock MCH/FSB voltages).

For the E6750, the only problem compared to the E6850 is the 8x multiplier. If you want to aim for 4Ghz (dunno whether possible or not), you would need a bus speed of 500Mhz!!!

So far, I'm orthosing my E6750 at 1.35v (stock voltage) at 3280Mhz. That's the highest stable OC I can get on stock voltage. Probably try higher voltages later.....
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err... my GA-965P-DS4 can do 500x7 wif E6300 but Orthos 3 sec then error and full load temp at 62... sweat.gif but voltage at 1.38V... don really wanna go for higher voltage... sweat.gif
kmarc
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jul 27 2007, 09:14 PM)

err... my GA-965P-DS4 can do 500x7 wif E6300 but Orthos 3 sec then error and full load temp at 62... sweat.gif but voltage at 1.38V... don really wanna go for higher voltage... sweat.gif



Aaaa.... orthos 3 sec then already error? That's not stable la. For me, at least 6-12 hours of orthos before I even consider it "at least" stable.

Still waiting for my xigmatek before I OC further as my core temp is already about 55'c on stock heatsink at 3.28Ghz at 1.35v. (using easytuner5, not using core temp as it shows 6'c lower temperature)
rockmaniac85
yeah, happen to me as well, orthos 3 sec then got error, when increase fsb to 500Mhz..

increase to 530MHz also can, but still the same ol error larr..

mmg tak stable once hit the wall larr, and i guess the wall is at 450MHz for me..
kmarc
QUOTE(rockmaniac85 @ Jul 27 2007, 10:49 PM)
yeah, happen to me as well, orthos 3 sec then got error, when increase fsb to 500Mhz..

increase to 530MHz also can, but still the same ol error larr..

mmg tak stable once hit the wall larr, and i guess the wall is at 450MHz for me..
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How high did you set your vMCH and vFSB?
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 27 2007, 10:55 PM)
Aaaa.... orthos 3 sec then already error? That's not stable la. For me, at least 6-12 hours of orthos before I even consider it "at least" stable.

Still waiting for my xigmatek before I OC further as my core temp is already about 55'c on stock heatsink at 3.28Ghz at 1.35v. (using easytuner5, not using core temp as it shows 6'c lower temperature)
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tat's my point... i think can if i get it stable wif higher voltage but i not willing to cuz of temperature... i prefer to keep it below 63... even on full load... smile.gif


Added on July 28, 2007, 10:25 am
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 28 2007, 08:45 AM)
How high did you set your vMCH and vFSB?
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for me i set both +0.2V... sweat.gif


Added on July 28, 2007, 10:25 am
And another question wat if i replace the silent pipe on GA-P35-DQ6 wif these...
user posted image and user posted image
hmm.gif
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(darude87 @ Jul 27 2007, 11:08 AM)
i think u just pointed out another thing i couldn't reach on my mobo  sweat.gif 
yesterday i found this guide, has anyone tried it? i know it sounds crazy, but i bet there's did that
http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3931
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eerr... u can't increase ur voltage meh....? hmm.gif
darude87
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jul 28 2007, 05:09 PM)
eerr... u can't increase ur voltage meh....? hmm.gif
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no, that's the weirdest thing i'm facing, msi core centre also cannot change vcore, bios also can't change sweat.gif
rockmaniac85
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 28 2007, 07:45 AM)
How high did you set your vMCH and vFSB?
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set both of em to +0.2V, then set fsb to 450MHz.. still orthos failed after 3 sec..

i can increase vMCH and vFSB to +0.3V, but would it work?

when i set my orthos priority to 10, it seems stable.... normally i set my orthos priority at a default 1..

sorry, im actually quite a n00b in oc'ing...

hope you guys can help.. thanx..
kmarc
QUOTE(rockmaniac85 @ Jul 28 2007, 07:49 PM)
set both of em to +0.2V, then set fsb to 450MHz.. still orthos failed after 3 sec..

i can increase vMCH and vFSB to +0.3V, but would it work?

when i set my orthos priority to 10, it seems stable.... normally i set my orthos priority at a default 1..

sorry, im actually quite a n00b in oc'ing...

hope you guys can help.. thanx..
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A higher vMCH will enable you to go higher on your bus speed. However, I'm not too sure about vFSB as some people claims that it doesn't do anything. Maybe a +0.1v just to make the system more stable???

I noticed you set your rams at 4-4-4-9 at 430Mhz. Was your rams at this setting when you increase the bus speed to 450Mhz? If so, it could be because of your rams. In that case, either loosen the timings, or reduce the ram speed. Alternatively, you need to find the max ram speed at each setting first before you OC your CPU.
Lodewijk
try playing with PCI-E Voltage, it's give a lot impact for stability.

For Gigabyte P35 series mobo, there's TRD option in BIOS. TRD = Performance Level. So, high FSB you must loose the TRD.
I hope this can help you
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(Lodewijk @ Jul 29 2007, 12:26 AM)
try playing with PCI-E Voltage, it's give a lot impact for stability.

For Gigabyte P35 series mobo, there's TRD option in BIOS. TRD = Performance Level. So, high FSB you must loose the TRD.
I hope this can help you
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ooo... i didn't notice tat in my boss's new DS3... blink.gif
kmarc
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jul 29 2007, 11:08 AM)
ooo... i didn't notice tat in my boss's new DS3... blink.gif
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I'm not at home to test out my DS3 but I think the TRD option is hidden. In the main bios menu, just press Ctrl + F1, then go into the section for overclocking.
rockmaniac85
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 28 2007, 10:52 PM)
A higher vMCH will enable you to go higher on your bus speed. However, I'm not too sure about vFSB as some people claims that it doesn't do anything. Maybe a +0.1v just to make the system more stable???

I noticed you set your rams at 4-4-4-9 at 430Mhz. Was your rams at this setting when you increase the bus speed to 450Mhz? If so, it could be because of your rams. In that case, either loosen the timings, or reduce the ram speed. Alternatively, you need to find the max ram speed at each setting first before you OC your CPU.
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what's the suitable voltage to be set on vMCH? will +0.1v sufficient?

btw, when i set my fsb at 450MHz, my timing were 5-5-5-15.. still get that hardware failure error while orthosing (after 3 sec error)..

i don't think it's coz the ram, since if there's any problem with the ram, the pc will restarted terus.. that's what happen when i torture my ram too much.. the error i get is a rounding failure (saying expected must get 0.4 but then got 0.5.. some calculation thing during orthos.. calculation is cpu based rite?)

but i might be wrong too, im an inexperienced oc'er..

kmarc
QUOTE(rockmaniac85 @ Jul 29 2007, 01:54 PM)
what's the suitable voltage to be set on vMCH? will +0.1v sufficient?

btw, when i set my fsb at 450MHz, my timing were 5-5-5-15.. still get that hardware failure error while orthosing (after 3 sec error)..

i don't think it's coz the ram, since if there's any problem with the ram, the pc will restarted terus..  that's what happen when i torture my ram too much.. the error i get is a rounding failure (saying expected must get 0.4 but then got 0.5.. some calculation thing during orthos.. calculation is cpu based rite?)

but i might be wrong too, im an inexperienced oc'er..
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Try to read up on guides to overclocking the C2D.

It is advisable to find the limit of each component before you OC your whole rig. By this, I mean you have to find the max OC for your CPU, RAM and mobo(FSB) separately.

There are a lot of guides that teaches you on how to OC your CPU while taking the RAMs and FSB out of the equation. Also vice versa on the RAMS and mobo. Once you know the limit of each component, then it is easier to OC your whole rig while bearing in mind the limit of each component. smile.gif
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(darude87 @ Jul 28 2007, 08:07 PM)
no, that's the weirdest thing i'm facing, msi core centre also cannot change vcore, bios also can't change  sweat.gif
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oooh... ur model is V-Class kar...? nevertheless... MSI sux... shakehead.gif
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 29 2007, 05:17 PM)
Try to read up on guides to overclocking the C2D.

It is advisable to find the limit of each component before you OC your whole rig. By this, I mean you have to find the max OC for your CPU, RAM and mobo(FSB) separately.

There are a lot of guides that teaches you on how to OC your CPU while taking the RAMs and FSB out of the equation. Also vice versa on the RAMS and mobo. Once you know the limit of each component, then it is easier to OC your whole rig while bearing in mind the limit of each component.  smile.gif
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tat kinda difficult cuz most hardware i see even same batch got diff limit...

BTW... wat does TRD do...? hmm.gif
darude87
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jul 29 2007, 07:04 PM)
oooh... ur model is V-Class kar...? nevertheless... MSI sux... shakehead.gif
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sad,just found out, my board really locked vcore, there's no solution for it, sigh...
the only way i guess is changing board,really disappointed with MSI already

btw mine is 945pl
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