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yehlai
QUOTE(gengstapo @ Jan 17 2007, 07:43 PM)
i dont think so laa, im still stuck here at 3.24Ghz
how bout ur ES chips, izzit good?

what the max stable setup? share here lorr
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If Gigabyte's fan and o'c senior here dont kick me out then sure im willing to share.. laugh.gif
Mine with stock HSF now is 395x9. vCore 1.5v. MCH, vDimm all set max. RAM 1:1
I think its the HSF prob.. now getting Big Typhoon, but dunno it helps or not.. maybe alrdy hit wall.
vassalle
QUOTE(basSist @ Jan 17 2007, 06:32 PM)
hm... maybe bcoz of the purple port? i am using the orange port anyway.

i am not sure what's the difference between the purple and orange port.
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before i was using the orange port. But I read in xtremesystems forums that you may get extra speed by using the purple port because the it uses the jmicron controller. It supports all the Sata2 functions, ahci, ncq etc etc which is not supported by the intel sata controller. Thats from what I understand la about the jmicron controller. If theres any sifu that could enlighten us, that would be terrific.

anyway, dont try to swap your working windows XP from orange to purple slot. It might corrupt your operating system. In order to install it on the purple slot, you'll need to reformat and reinstall ure windows and use sata driver loaded via floppy (by pressing F6 in the early part of installing ure windows) This is assuming that you have set your sata controller to AHCI instead of IDE in the advance bios config page.

anyway, dont go through all the hustle. just use the orange port. take it from me, it aint worth it.
deric88
orange ports are intel , the purple one is by gigabyte which supports RAID, orange i think no raid function
IO Guy
Sorry guys, wanna ask a bit off-topic question.... any1 of u got try Colorful 7600GT 256MB PCI-e on DQ6?? Mine surely can't boot here... cry.gif but my 6800GS can...What seems to be wrong here...That's a new card back from RMA.

Just need to test it on other machine.... hmm.gif but got none right now... doh.gif
Striker07
QUOTE(vassalle @ Jan 17 2007, 10:59 PM)
before i was using the orange port. But I read in xtremesystems forums that you may get extra speed by using the purple port because the it uses the jmicron controller. It supports all the Sata2 functions, ahci, ncq etc etc which is not supported by the intel sata controller. Thats from what I understand la about the jmicron controller. If theres any sifu that could enlighten us, that would be terrific.

anyway, dont try to swap your working windows XP from orange to purple slot. It might corrupt your operating system. In order to install it on the purple slot, you'll need to reformat and reinstall ure windows and use sata driver loaded via floppy (by pressing F6 in the early part of installing ure windows) This is assuming that you have set your sata controller to AHCI instead of IDE in the advance bios config page.

anyway, dont go through all the hustle. just use the orange port. take it from me, it aint worth it.
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So the orange port doesn't support ncq? Does ncq play a big part in performance? Coz i feel my hdd is lagging....some of my games take quite long to load the first time...as for loading Windows, it takes around 7-10 bars...my friend's x2 3800 was able to load Windows faster. I'm using a 160gb Seagate Barracuda 7200.9
Striker07
Sorry, double post.
vassalle
QUOTE(Striker07 @ Jan 17 2007, 11:53 PM)
So the orange port doesn't support ncq? Does ncq play a big part in performance? Coz i feel my hdd is lagging....some of my games take quite long to load the first time...as for loading Windows, it takes around 7-10 bars...my friend's x2 3800 was able to load Windows faster. I'm using a 160gb Seagate Barracuda 7200.9
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I didnt say that NCQ will definitely play a big part, all i'm saying is that i read in the xtremesystems forum (wish i could find the link rite now) that it MIGHT bring performance improvement over the non-ncq capable orange port.

For me, theres not much difference to be honest. But maybe coz my hard disk is not sata2 to begin with (im using wd raptor 36gb).
westley0214
Hi all, currently running 2.6C Northwood at 3.19GHz (13*245). Vcore: 1.55. CPU:RAM at 5:4, which means RAM running at a mere 196MHz. Latency: 2-3-3-5. Ever try to push this RAM to 220MHz at 2-3-3-6 without any error. Higher than that memtest will show error.

Was once trying to run it at 3.25GHz (13*250) but come out with 1 error in Prime95 stress test. I don't think heat is an issue since full load only 45 degree C. My P4P800-X only support Vcore up to 1.60. Any suggestion how to push it further other than raising the Vcore?

Thanks.
kennyncl
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 16 2007, 07:03 PM)
Can try on XP120 or XP90.What brand are you looking for>?
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I'm currently using Zalman CNPS9500-LED.

Idle 35-40 C
Full Load 50-55 C

But the problem for me now is the PWM temperature reach up to 80C with full load. So I thinking of mod my side panel to add in 12cm Fan for cooling the power transistor.

Currently my system running stable at 220 FSB with my 3.4G proc @3.7G.
Had try with 225 FSB but having error when running blend test using SP2004.
Proc voltage set at 1.6V.
raymond5105
QUOTE(westley0214 @ Jan 22 2007, 08:41 PM)
Hi all, currently running 2.6C Northwood at 3.19GHz (13*245). Vcore: 1.55. CPU:RAM at 5:4, which means RAM running at a mere 196MHz. Latency: 2-3-3-5. Ever try to push this RAM to 220MHz at 2-3-3-6 without any error. Higher than that memtest will show error.

Was once trying to run it at 3.25GHz (13*250) but come out with 1 error in Prime95 stress test. I don't think heat is an issue since full load only 45 degree C. My P4P800-X only support Vcore up to 1.60. Any suggestion how to push it further other than raising the Vcore?

Thanks.
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You RAM is using BH chipsets?You can try on loose timing and see your system can run at 220MHz or not.

QUOTE(kennyncl @ Jan 23 2007, 05:08 AM)
I'm currently using Zalman CNPS9500-LED.

Idle 35-40 C
Full Load 50-55 C

But the problem for me now is the PWM temperature reach up to 80C with full load. So I thinking of mod my side panel to add in 12cm Fan for cooling the power transistor.

Currently my system running stable at 220 FSB with my 3.4G proc @3.7G.
Had try with 225 FSB but having error when running blend test using SP2004.
Proc voltage set at 1.6V.
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Zalman does good job in full load as your only 55 C only on the CPU area. Your PWM area is preety high man,80C won't causing restart?
RiCHBoyZ
some insane guy oced p4 631 @ 8000MHz.......... link from OCAU
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131071
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 18 2007, 12:09 AM)
orange ports are intel , the purple one is by gigabyte which supports RAID, orange i think no raid function
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I thought got Intel ICH8 RAID... hmm.gif
Anyway... the bigger the HDD the slower it is... especially cheap refurbished 1's.... brows.gif
Darkmage12
QUOTE(RiCHBoyZ @ Jan 23 2007, 04:05 PM)
some insane guy oced p4 631 @ 8000MHz.......... link from OCAU
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131071
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really insane....did you see that person with FSB 15xx? he using PII and achieve 7xxxMHZ doh.gif
Darkmage12
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jan 23 2007, 04:10 PM)
I thought got Intel ICH8 RAID... hmm.gif
Anyway... the bigger the HDD the slower it is... especially cheap refurbished 1's.... brows.gif
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refurbished? you mean 2nd hand?
raymond5105
QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Jan 23 2007, 05:10 PM)
really insane....did you see that person with FSB 15xx? he using PII and achieve 7xxxMHZ doh.gif
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Wah this is really mad, a P II 333MHz can o/c to 7GHz + ?I am curious how to make the RAM to run on such a high frequency,seems like very very impossible.Can't believe it and it's just a P II . rclxub.gif And a P4 631 can clocked to 8GHz ? Really insane in overclcoking. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
chickenducksoup
GA-965P-DS3P (rev. 2.0)(Intel P965+ ICH8R chipset)
this got ich8r.
anyone know what the different between GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 2.0) & GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 1.0)? other than PCB different
raymond5105
QUOTE(chickenducksoup @ Jan 23 2007, 07:10 PM)
GA-965P-DS3P (rev. 2.0)(Intel P965+ ICH8R chipset)
this got ich8r.
anyone know what the different between GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 2.0) & GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 1.0)? other than PCB different
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This one got the shielded ferrite coil in version 2.0. I think there is an review on this board version 2.0 in hardwarezone there.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=6&id=2156

edited:add in the link
warrior
is anyone seen DS4 rev2.0 / 3.3 board available in market these day?
vassalle
3.3 is not out yet.

IIRC, the rev2 board uses a different network chip as well. Can't really recall where I read it though.
westley0214
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 23 2007, 12:53 PM)
You RAM is using BH chipsets?You can try on loose timing and see your system can run at 220MHz or not.
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I think they are not using BH chipset. A pair of Super Talent 512MB RAM running dual channel. Most probably using Infineon. Not able to check the chipset type since CPU-Z didn't show anything. Remove the heatspreader will certainly void their warranty sweat.gif

Anyway attempt to run my RAM at 235MHz now, with the drawback of having to loosen the timing from default 2-3-3-6 to 2.5-4-4-8. CPU:RAM = 1:1, which means CPU at a speed of 235*13 = 3.06GHz. If no error within the next 6 hours will try to push the RAM harder biggrin.gif

Thanks for your suggestion raymond!
kennyncl
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 23 2007, 12:53 PM)
You RAM is using BH chipsets?You can try on loose timing and see your system can run at 220MHz or not.
Zalman does good job in full load as your only 55 C only on the CPU area. Your PWM area is preety high man,80C won't causing restart?
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It's not over 80C it will be fluctuate around 78 and 80C, when I oipen up the side panel it will not over 79C. Any suggestion to cool down the PWM temperature beside adding side panel fan?
nelza_ax
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 23 2007, 06:38 PM)
Wah this is really mad, a P II 333MHz can o/c to 7GHz + ?I am curious how to make the RAM to run on such a high frequency,seems like very very impossible.Can't believe it and it's just a P II . rclxub.gif And a P4 631 can clocked to 8GHz ? Really insane in overclcoking. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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something wierd there.. p II got sse3 meh? whistling.gif
nelza_ax
QUOTE(westley0214 @ Jan 22 2007, 08:41 PM)
Hi all, currently running 2.6C Northwood at 3.19GHz (13*245). Vcore: 1.55. CPU:RAM at 5:4, which means RAM running at a mere 196MHz. Latency: 2-3-3-5. Ever try to push this RAM to 220MHz at 2-3-3-6 without any error. Higher than that memtest will show error.

Was once trying to run it at 3.25GHz (13*250) but come out with 1 error in Prime95 stress test. I don't think heat is an issue since full load only 45 degree C. My P4P800-X only support Vcore up to 1.60. Any suggestion how to push it further other than raising the Vcore?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 23 2007, 12:53 PM)
You RAM is using BH chipsets?You can try on loose timing and see your system can run at 220MHz or not.
Zalman does good job in full load as your only 55 C only on the CPU area. Your PWM area is preety high man,80C won't causing restart?
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i think it is ch5 ? unsure.gif
Darkmage12
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 23 2007, 06:38 PM)
Wah this is really mad, a P II 333MHz can o/c to 7GHz + ?I am curious how to make the RAM to run on such a high frequency,seems like very very impossible.Can't believe it and it's just a P II . rclxub.gif And a P4 631 can clocked to 8GHz ? Really insane in overclcoking. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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the CPU-Z got validate it ah.....
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=159352
raymond5105
QUOTE(westley0214 @ Jan 23 2007, 10:30 PM)
I think they are not using BH chipset. A pair of Super Talent 512MB RAM running dual channel. Most probably using Infineon. Not able to check the chipset type since CPU-Z didn't show anything. Remove the heatspreader will certainly void their warranty  sweat.gif

Anyway attempt to run my RAM at 235MHz now, with the drawback of having to loosen the timing from default 2-3-3-6 to 2.5-4-4-8. CPU:RAM = 1:1, which means CPU at a speed of 235*13 = 3.06GHz. If no error within the next 6 hours will try to push the RAM harder  biggrin.gif

Thanks for your suggestion raymond!
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No problem man.I think your RAM should be able to go higher.

QUOTE(kennyncl @ Jan 23 2007, 11:03 PM)
It's not over 80C it will be fluctuate around 78 and 80C, when I oipen up the side panel it will not over 79C. Any suggestion to cool down the PWM temperature beside adding side panel fan?
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Open up the casing still very high but not > 79 degree C ? Personal opinion is the high temperature is not good for the PWM operate in long term.But i am suprise to see your PWM in hot will not causing restart.

QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 23 2007, 11:08 PM)
something wierd there.. p II got sse3 meh?  whistling.gif
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I am also suprised with that SSE3 . sweat.gif Later come out wiht x64 instruction also. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Jan 23 2007, 11:59 PM)
the CPU-Z got validate it ah.....
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=159352
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Seems like doubt about this P II system,SSE 3 instruction is available. rclxub.gif
nelza_ax
QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Jan 23 2007, 11:59 PM)
the CPU-Z got validate it ah.....
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=159352
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yeah..but p II got sse3 meh? whistling.gif
nakata101
QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 24 2007, 01:07 PM)
yeah..but p II got sse3 meh?  whistling.gif
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I think that guy also good in using photoshop... or just using PAINT....
gengstapo
QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 24 2007, 01:38 PM)
I think that guy also good in using photoshop...  or just using PAINT....
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maybe bugs i believe laugh.gif
flatfinger
tak logik arrr PII...kalau betul semua org pakai balik PII lar kan...hahaaha laugh.gif ..jual c2d...kekekke tongue.gif..then if u see betul2x...validation failed

user posted image
arifwan
QUOTE(kennyncl @ Jan 23 2007, 05:08 AM)
I'm currently using Zalman CNPS9500-LED.

Idle 35-40 C
Full Load 50-55 C

But the problem for me now is the PWM temperature reach up to 80C with full load. So I thinking of mod my side panel to add in 12cm Fan for cooling the power transistor.

Currently my system running stable at 220 FSB with my 3.4G proc @3.7G.
Had try with 225 FSB but having error when running blend test using SP2004.
Proc voltage set at 1.6V.
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If not mistaken my cousin's computer have the same problem.. just like u.. eventhough open the side panel the PVM temp still around 70-80 deg c.

But.. after update the mobo bios to the latest update the temp lowered down to ~40 deg c only.. Btw.. he using the Asus mobo w/ P4 3.0E.

maybe you can try this..
raymond5105
@ kennyncl,what mobo are you using?Try to open up your casing to see the temperature is able to cool down your PWM area or not before you modding in a 12sm side panel fan.

@flatfinger,if the P2 can have the SSE3 instruction then those P4 proc can be tapao already.
nelza_ax
QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 24 2007, 01:38 PM)
I think that guy also good in using photoshop...  or just using PAINT....
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cannot la.. u must submit the .cvf file to validate..
mebe juz a bug or he edit the .cvf file whistling.gif
westley0214
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 24 2007, 10:55 AM)
No problem man.I think your RAM should be able to go higher.
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Ya you are right bro smile.gif Now running at 245MHz at 2.5-4-4-8, CPU:RAM 1:1, Super PI 1M result shows ~44s compared to 46s before, which is quite impressive IMO.

Anyway I guess this is the end of my OC journey? Before this already tried to run FSB beyond 245MHz, and came out with error in Prime95 stress test. I guess it's because of my mobo? Since CPU heat is not an issue.
raymond5105
QUOTE(westley0214 @ Jan 24 2007, 09:02 PM)
Ya you are right bro  smile.gif Now running at 245MHz at 2.5-4-4-8, CPU:RAM 1:1, Super PI 1M result shows ~44s compared to 46s before, which is quite impressive IMO.

Anyway I guess this is the end of my OC journey? Before this already tried to run FSB beyond 245MHz, and came out with error in Prime95 stress test. I guess it's because of my mobo? Since CPU heat is not an issue.
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You are running on 5:4 divider right?I tried on mine on same mobo + proc with you. Running on 250MHz is able to get about 43s like that.
westley0214
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 24 2007, 09:20 PM)
You are running on 5:4 divider right?I tried on mine on same mobo + proc with you. Running on 250MHz is able to get about 43s like that.
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No.. currently RAM running synchronously with CPU. What is your RAM timing at 250MHz? What about Vdimm?
kennyncl
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 24 2007, 08:11 PM)
@ kennyncl,what mobo are you using?Try to open up your casing to see the temperature is able to cool down your PWM area or not before you modding in a 12sm side panel fan.

@flatfinger,if the P2 can have the SSE3 instruction then those P4 proc can be tapao already.
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I'm using Abit AI7 mobo.
I have try to open up the casing but it only drop by 1 or 2C only. When I get a 12cm fan and blow to the PWM area by holding the fan with my hand it drop by 10C.
flatfinger
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 24 2007, 08:11 PM)

@flatfinger,if the P2 can have the SSE3 instruction then those P4 proc can be tapao already.
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thats y i said...if its really pII..then all ppl jual c2d n used back pII lor...
raymond5105
QUOTE(kennyncl @ Jan 25 2007, 06:03 AM)
I'm using Abit AI7 mobo.
I have try to open up the casing but it only drop by 1 or 2C only. When I get a 12cm fan and blow to the PWM area by holding the fan with my hand it drop by 10C.
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I got an AI7 also,i found that the PWM area is very hot.Mine one about 70 degree C then it restart automatically already.I didn't let the PWM goes so high.I found that my proc temperature will be also going high even at idle mode,53-54 degree C . sweat.gif At last use back my IC7-G mobo,then the proc area temp goes down to 47 degree C.
kennyncl
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 25 2007, 12:51 PM)
I got an AI7 also,i found that the PWM area is very hot.Mine one about 70 degree C then it restart automatically already.I didn't let the PWM goes so high.I found that my proc temperature will be also going high even at idle mode,53-54 degree C . sweat.gif  At last use back my IC7-G mobo,then the proc area temp goes down to 47 degree C.
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So it mean it is the design of the mobo that cause the PWM temp to be so hing at full load then. Hmmmm.... Nvm will be sending my side panel for moding tomorrow tongue.gif
nelza_ax
the "golden" P II gone edi? whistling.gif

http://valid.x86-secret.com/records.php
raymond5105
QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 25 2007, 08:02 PM)
the "golden" P II  gone edi?  whistling.gif

http://valid.x86-secret.com/records.php
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The pentium 2 only 7GHz like that ,so it will be replaced when there is someone clocking higher than it. biggrin.gif
kennyncl
Seem like nothing much can be done except adding side case colling fan to cool down the PWM temperature of an AI7 mobo.
raymond5105
QUOTE(kennyncl @ Jan 28 2007, 04:49 AM)
Seem like nothing much can be done except adding side case colling fan to cool down the PWM temperature of an AI7 mobo.
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I also afraid over stress the PWM cause i personally feel too hot on that area. sweat.gif But that is a very good mobo to do overclcoking also as the Vdimm can reach 3.3V .
kennyncl
Yah I agree with u that the AI7 is a good mobo to do OC but it seem that I can't get my 3.4G OC to over 220FSB. It will fail the SP2004 test.
nelza_ax
QUOTE(kennyncl @ Jan 28 2007, 11:41 AM)
Yah I agree with u that the AI7 is a good mobo to do OC but it seem that I can't get my 3.4G OC to over 220FSB. It will fail the SP2004 test.
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then, sell ur AI7 to me... blush.gif
kennyncl
QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 28 2007, 02:08 PM)
then, sell ur AI7 to me... blush.gif
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But I still love My AI7 mobo wub.gif
michealelsie
I m planning to OC my processor. But i really donno whether my proc is OC'able o not...can anyone see see my spec.

P4 2.0Ghz (long time d 1, about 5-6 years d, donno is what core, sorry)
Mobo: MSI PT8 Neo-V (sorry loussy mobo)

any help is appriciate..i m noob...last time got OC'ed it when i m using my giga mobo...forgot wat model d...just OC'ed till 2.2Ghz
eddyann
is there any good heatsink to replace my CM Xdream for Northwood. mine OC'ed 3@3.4GHz stable but 100% load temp is freak me out. about 75C. Idle around 45-48C.
nelza_ax
QUOTE(eddyann @ Jan 30 2007, 09:21 AM)
is there any good heatsink to replace my CM Xdream for Northwood. mine OC'ed 3@3.4GHz stable but 100% load temp is freak me out. about 75C. Idle around 45-48C.
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wahhh..75% for northwood is very high.....
i think u should go for ninja or TR thumbup.gif
eddyann
QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 30 2007, 04:57 PM)
wahhh..75% for northwood is very high.....
i think u should go for ninja or TR  thumbup.gif
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yeah, the CM xdream even though stated that it can support up to 3.4GHz. it's an aluminium+some copper heatsink. so if use the pipe heatsink normally how much can be reduced. i'm thinking of around 55C
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