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shinjo
Well, i jus got my com here and i'm using i-cute normal 500w real power.
my rig is ATI x1950 ddr3 256mb, E6600 @2.4 Ghz, 1G ddr2 ram.

the problem is i can't really tune (overclock) it to the max using and when i monitor it with easytune, there is a warning sign for the CPU. i'm scare that it will spoil the processor. How to solve it without worry and not damaging the processor?
is my power not enough? Is there anyone who can give me the setting for this mobo?? e.g. like if i wanna tune it to become 2.9 GHz, how may power should i adjust for the processor?? (normal is 1.3watt)?? should i change my PSU to greater "TRUE POWER" psu?


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Daywalker
QUOTE(shinjo @ Dec 6 2006, 03:32 PM)
Well, i jus got my com here and i'm using i-cute normal 500w real power.
my rig is ATI x1950 ddr3 256mb, E6600 @2.4 Ghz, 1G ddr2 ram.

the problem is i can't really tune (overclock) it to the max using and when i monitor it with easytune, there is a warning sign for the CPU. i'm scare that it will spoil the processor. How to solve it without worry and not damaging the processor?
is my power not enough? Is there anyone who can give me the setting for this mobo?? e.g. like if i wanna tune it to become 2.9 GHz, how may power should i adjust for the processor?? (normal is 1.3watt)?? should i change my PSU to greater "TRUE POWER" psu?
-HELP~~~~~      notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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I guess better use other that i-Cute PSU, but i-cute for OCing is not the ideal PSU...... sweat.gif
deric88
lol tht will scare you, the default temp warning is 60C if not mistaken....
shinjo
ya lo.. got temp wwarning liao.. how to make it cooler and also maximizing my cpu speed?? got any setting i must used? if i tune to 3.2Ghz?? how many vcore voltage i should set to the processor so tat i won't damage it?? any idea? Any good psu recommend?
deric88
check your stock temperature before oc, might be your heatsink contact not good
shinjo
i'm using gigabyte DQ6 best of the gigabyte series, with good heatsink,i even got 3 fan coolin it. but is it because i did not supply higher voltage enough to the processor , so when it runs faster speed and would become burden od lack of power? is it tat's why it got high temp?
deric88
the heat pipes found on dq6 are for your mobo chipsets not your cpu, cpu hsf default is the round one with the intel logo... i asuming your 3 fans are chasis fan... they just give good airflow.....

i suspect is the contact of your hsf.... so take the stock temperature and oc temperature, post it here....

DQ6 are the top range but aren't the best, there is a case here http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=364800 heatpipes melting the battery holder solder
shinjo
so then, i now change the normal intel heatsink fan on top of the processor into a good one izzit?? any recommend?? and price range?
deric88
yea changing is recommended for oc, i just wanna know your stock temperature...
Dead__Man
NEVER OVERCLOCK YOUR PROCESSOR, OTHERWISE IT WILL EXPLODED!!!
sHawTY
Threadstarter, what you have to do first is to get a good decent 3rd party heatsink...
My suggestion is for you to go for either one of this:

1) Thermalright Ultra 120
2) Thermalright HR-01
3) Scythe Infinity
4) Scythe Ninja
5) Thermalright XP120
6) Thermaltake Big Thyphoon VX
7) CoolerMaster Hyper TX

After u have change the heatsink to either one of these, ui should be able to overclock lo... thumbup.gif

No more worries about high temperatures... wink.gif

One more thing, don't use that ICute PSU for you're pc, it can't cope with you're pc specs liao... laugh.gif

As u're using a power hunger ATI X1950 graphic card, i suggest you to get at least Enermax Liberty 500W, it should be enough for you're pc... thumbup.gif
soulfly
QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 6 2006, 10:42 PM)
And what you purpose here?
Spamming?

You're not even helping the threadstarter...

Stop spamming you idiot...

Threadstarter, what you have to do first is to get a good decent 3rd party heatsink...
My suggestion is for you to go for either one of this:

1) Thermalright Ultra 120
2) Thermalright HR-01
3) Scythe Infinity
4) Scythe Ninja
5) Thermalright XP120
6) Thermaltake Big Thyphoon VX
7) CoolerMaster Hyper TX

After u have change the heatsink to either one of these, ui should be able to overclock lo... thumbup.gif

No more worries about high temperatures... wink.gif

One more thing, don't use that ICute PSU for you're pc, it can't cope with you're pc specs liao... laugh.gif

As u're using a power hunger ATI X1950 graphic card, i suggest you to get at least Enermax Liberty 500W, it should be enough for you're pc... thumbup.gif

calling other forumer IDIOT.... probably you're too smart? or you're requesting a banhammer?

Spam is of course a spam, but I take Dead_Man's posting as sarcasm, seriously I believe thread starter did not even bother the pinned topics for basic guide on overclocking. There are threads on Intel, thread about PSU for overclocking, and hell a lot of threads about cooling, not to mention for Conroe to be specific.
Dead__Man
No, I was not spamming. I find it hard to believe that someone buys a DQ6, a Conroe and an X1950, probably the most OC-able components on the market now, but after buying has no idea how to OC. Seriously, it's like buying a Ferrari and not having a driver's license.

Other than that, another annoyance is also that there truly are tons of threads on Conroe overclocking and there are even mroe sources on the internet.

Apart from that, give me some accounts of CPUs actually exploding by sheer overclocking w/o hard-, pin- and other forms of modding. I know there was an article at Hard|OCP a long time ago about getting the max from a Prescott (watercooled, highly overvolted) in which they did get a P4 to explode, but that was extreme and the CPU was a prescott. All I'm trying to say that it's just a cliche that overclocking will eventually cause you're CPU to explode, that was what I meant with my original posting. It takes a lot to fire one up, let alone nowdays with thermal throttling and what not.
sHawTY
QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 6 2006, 11:16 PM)
calling other forumer IDIOT.... probably you're too smart? or you're requesting a banhammer?

Spam is of course a spam, but I take Dead_Man's posting as sarcasm, seriously I believe thread starter did not even bother the pinned topics for basic guide on overclocking. There are threads on Intel, thread about PSU for overclocking, and hell a lot of threads about cooling, not to mention for Conroe to be specific.
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QUOTE(Dead__Man @ Dec 7 2006, 02:16 AM)
No, I was not spamming. I find it hard to believe that someone buys a DQ6, a Conroe and an X1950, probably the most OC-able components on the market now, but after buying has no idea how to OC. Seriously, it's like buying a Ferrari and not having a driver's license.

Other than that, another annoyance is also that there truly are tons of threads on Conroe overclocking and there are even mroe sources on the internet.

Apart from that, give me some accounts of CPUs actually exploding by sheer overclocking w/o hard-, pin- and other forms of modding. I know there was an article at Hard|OCP a long time ago about getting the max from a Prescott (watercooled, highly overvolted) in which they did get a P4 to explode, but that was extreme and the CPU was a prescott. All I'm trying to say that it's just a cliche that overclocking will eventually cause you're CPU to explode, that was what I meant with my original posting. It takes a lot to fire one up, let alone nowdays with thermal throttling and what not.
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Sorry, my mistake then, i'll erase that phrase... notworthy.gif
Hope you guys won't be mad at me anymore... notworthy.gif
diversified
Gigabyte 945P-S3 (Rev 1.0/Bios F2)
C2D E6300@2.31GHz(333x7)
Corsair VS 2GB (1GB x2@667FSB/5-5-5-15)
Palit 7600GS Sonic
460W Enermax PSU
SATA hardisk x1

Hello to all the pros here, I'm having some oc prob, need some help icon_question.gif

Above is my pc spec, it boot up and running fine, but everytime when I restart the machine it just won't boot into the bios post screen(blank screen). If I shutdown and power back up then there is no problem, I just can't restart the pc.

I have tried different voltage on the cpu/ddram, still the same, it runs fine superPI@32M/sisoft/3dmark all no problem. Anyone with the board having this problem?

Thank you.
basSist
Try to update ur bios to latest version. F7 or F8i.

hope can help wink.gif
Ash
QUOTE(Dead__Man @ Dec 7 2006, 02:16 AM)
No, I was not spamming. I find it hard to believe that someone buys a DQ6, a Conroe and an X1950, probably the most OC-able components on the market now, but after buying has no idea how to OC. Seriously, it's like buying a Ferrari and not having a driver's license.

Other than that, another annoyance is also that there truly are tons of threads on Conroe overclocking and there are even mroe sources on the internet.

Apart from that, give me some accounts of CPUs actually exploding by sheer overclocking w/o hard-, pin- and other forms of modding. I know there was an article at Hard|OCP a long time ago about getting the max from a Prescott (watercooled, highly overvolted) in which they did get a P4 to explode, but that was extreme and the CPU was a prescott. All I'm trying to say that it's just a cliche that overclocking will eventually cause you're CPU to explode, that was what I meant with my original posting. It takes a lot to fire one up, let alone nowdays with thermal throttling and what not.
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FYI, not everyone who buys a DQ6, a Conroe and an X1950 will 100% try to overclock. Some people actually buy them for the default speed which is actually more than enough for normal usage. Your example for Ferrari is sooooooo wrong. This guy didn't buy the Ferrari without a driving license, he bought it because he likes the engine and Ferrari runs better than any other car.


oh well, hi threadstarter im using the same board and proc as you and have Xp-90c as my heat sink.. running at 2.8ghz default volt...temp is about 40 C... gotta learn how to oc after i finish my a lvls exam
diversified
Hi basSist, my bios is the latest cry.gif
basSist
try to set everything at default. if still got problem while restarting.. then i am not really sure about it d. sad.gif sorry cant help much. wait for others to help wink.gif
shinjo
QUOTE(Ash @ Dec 7 2006, 03:34 AM)
FYI, not everyone who buys a DQ6, a Conroe and an X1950 will 100% try to overclock. Some people actually buy them for the default speed which is actually more than enough for normal usage. Your example for Ferrari is sooooooo wrong. This guy didn't buy the Ferrari without a driving license, he bought it because he likes the engine and Ferrari runs better than any other car.
oh well, hi threadstarter im using the same board and proc as you and have Xp-90c as my heat sink.. running at 2.8ghz default volt...temp is about 40 C... gotta learn how to oc after i finish my a lvls exam
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Thanks, and you are right.. i dun really know all the configurations and knowledge of setting an OC.. the reason i got these rig is because as what Ash said, 'i'm buying those baby for it's default speed it have originally before OC it, which is already far more better than those other ppl have originally. I'm just trying to learn OC here without burning my E6600 and save its life span. Besides, asking for help from those expert which kind of configuration setting to OC it better, e.g. like if tune my 2.4Ghz until 3.0Ghz, how many voltage should be charge to the processor and so on. i dun worry bout my RAM, as i also bought a very high-end performance RAM of 1G Corsair Xms2 (800mhz) liao.
sHawTY
QUOTE(shinjo @ Dec 7 2006, 09:09 AM)
Thanks, and you are right.. i dun really know all the configurations and knowledge of setting an OC.. the reason i got these rig is because as what Ash said, 'i'm buying those baby for it's default speed it have originally before OC it, which is already far more better than those other ppl have originally. I'm just trying to learn OC here without burning my E6600 and save its life span. Besides, asking for help from those expert which kind of configuration setting to OC it better, e.g. like if tune my 2.4Ghz until 3.0Ghz, how many voltage should be charge to the processor and so on. i dun worry bout my RAM, as i also bought a very high-end performance RAM of 1G Corsair Xms2 (800mhz) liao.
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So what are you going to do now?
OC or don't oc?

Have you bought a 3rd party heatsink for you're pc yet? blink.gif
gengstapo
if u afraid to spoil the processor, no need OC laa
shinjo
of course OC la, i'm now at 2.75Ghz.. bout showing 60' temp.. so i'm scare will burn it out.. i'm going to low yat buy better psu la and see which cpu fan is good for my processor and fit nicely to my board. Besides, i need some advise too from expert for the configuration. like how many voltage to charge to cpu if wanna tune to 3.0Ghz and above, etc...
gengstapo
QUOTE(shinjo @ Dec 7 2006, 10:18 AM)
of course OC la, i'm now at 2.75Ghz.. bout showing 60' temp.. so i'm scare will burn it out.. i'm going to low yat buy better psu la and see which cpu fan is good for my processor and fit nicely to my board.  Besides, i need some advise too from expert for the configuration. like how many voltage to charge to cpu if wanna tune to 3.0Ghz and above, etc...
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it wont burnt laa
it will shut-down if the temp reach the temp's tresshold
sunauto
Perhaps, you can refer to the Overclocking guide below, it might be useful to you, I'm just trying to help. My cousing is using E6400 and Gigabyte's DS4 mobo, he could overclock it until 3.2GHZ, he's using Gigabyte's 3D Rocket 2 CPU cooler and Thermaltake Toughpower 750 watts PSU (he's using Forsa 8800GTX, that's why).

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=6&t=10706

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1075792

Anyway, good luck in overclocking your rig. If you're using a stock cooler, you might wanna ton it down to 3GHZ to be on the safe side.
Doom
QUOTE(shinjo @ Dec 7 2006, 10:18 AM)
of course OC la, i'm now at 2.75Ghz.. bout showing 60' temp.. so i'm scare will burn it out.. i'm going to low yat buy better psu la and see which cpu fan is good for my processor and fit nicely to my board.  Besides, i need some advise too from expert for the configuration. like how many voltage to charge to cpu if wanna tune to 3.0Ghz and above, etc...
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You use Easy Tune 5 to OC ???

i am using DS3 on 6600.... can OC stable at 2.7 GHZ with Easy Tune 5... never try higher ....

however better get a nice cooler as my temp never reach 45 with current cooler ...

diversified
Oh well switched to 2x 512mb Corsair (VS512MB667D2 single sided) and everything's ok.

Anyway thanks for the advice and replies~ laugh.gif
shinjo
QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 7 2006, 06:41 PM)
You use Easy Tune 5 to OC ???

i am using DS3 on 6600.... can OC stable at 2.7 GHZ with Easy Tune 5... never try higher ....

however better get a nice cooler as my temp never reach 45 with current cooler ...
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Yeah, using Easy tune5, so i'm now on 2.7 GHz also.. but my temp is already not in the idle temp which is more than 55c liao`. Maybe the E6600 original cpu cooler came with it is not good enough to take out all those heat. Should have change it earlier when buyin it. But the shopkeeper told me not to use thermaltake product for my gigabyte DQ6.. not good cause got case that one time the cooler eventually "heavy" until bended the motherboard. So , he recommended me to take those lighter type.
ian_comstar
of course the cooler is not enough for your OCed processor. Intel's stock cooler is nvr meant for OCed proc.

get the aftermarket cooler is the best choice...
Doom
QUOTE(shinjo @ Dec 8 2006, 08:00 AM)
Yeah, using Easy tune5, so i'm now on 2.7 GHz also.. but my temp is already not in the idle temp which is more than 55c liao`. Maybe the E6600 original cpu cooler came with it is not good enough to take out all those heat. Should have change it earlier when buyin it. But the shopkeeper told me not to use thermaltake product for my gigabyte DQ6.. not good cause got case that one time the cooler eventually "heavy" until bended the motherboard. So , he recommended me to take those lighter type.
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I think the simplest solution is to get a Cooler master HyperTX from MyPC at lowyat plaza there .....the price should be fair and i think u could afford it ...

anyway this is my actual temperature result ....

Thermalright Family
Doom
that mean u downgraded from 2GB of ram to 1GB ???

ur 1GB stick is double sided ??
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(shinjo @ Dec 8 2006, 09:00 AM)
.... So , he recommended me to take those lighter type.
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heard of tat also... but alluminium coolers are always not enough... need more copper...
sHawTY
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Dec 8 2006, 01:03 PM)
heard of tat also... but alluminium coolers are always not enough... need more copper...
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Owh really? whistling.gif
Well then, how can you answer this?

How come all those high end heatsinks tend to use more aluminum instead of copper?

I'm talking about Ultra 120, Infinity, Ninja, HR-01, the only cooper on those heatsinks are on the base, and the heatpipes, while the other things that is on the heatsinks is using Aluminium which is 80% of the heatsink...

Explain that.. whistling.gif
AMD_FX5500
juz wanna ask my pc is worth 2 OC??

i`m a noob on OC....

Intel P4 2.4c HT
MSI 865PE NEO2-P
CORSAIR VS 1GB DDR400
MSI NX6200 128MB DDR
Ash
QUOTE(shinjo @ Dec 8 2006, 08:00 AM)
Yeah, using Easy tune5, so i'm now on 2.7 GHz also.. but my temp is already not in the idle temp which is more than 55c liao`. Maybe the E6600 original cpu cooler came with it is not good enough to take out all those heat. Should have change it earlier when buyin it. But the shopkeeper told me not to use thermaltake product for my gigabyte DQ6.. not good cause got case that one time the cooler eventually "heavy" until bended the motherboard. So , he recommended me to take those lighter type.
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wah really ah? hope it wont happen to my mobo lol
raymond5105
QUOTE(AMD_FX5500 @ Dec 8 2006, 03:27 PM)
juz wanna ask my pc is worth 2 OC??

i`m a noob on OC....

Intel P4 2.4c HT
MSI 865PE NEO2-P
CORSAIR VS 1GB DDR400
MSI NX6200 128MB DDR
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Worth to o/c or can o/c? Your spec is able to make o/c. But whether worth or not depends on you,o/c speed sure running faster than your stock speed.
AMD_FX5500
QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Dec 8 2006, 04:30 PM)
Worth to o/c or can o/c? Your spec is able to make o/c. But whether worth or not depends on you,o/c speed sure running faster than your stock speed.
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how fast it can go???
gv me some sample or tips....
t3chn0m4nc3r
any here interested in this...?
nelza_ax
QUOTE(AMD_FX5500 @ Dec 8 2006, 04:35 PM)
how fast it can go???
gv me some sample or tips....
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better read dis thread from the beginning..u will find alot of tips thumbup.gif
shinjo
ya lo.. so now gotta go get a cooler master one... see which is affordable and with good heatsink. lol. Then only go with the OC and monitor the progress of the performance.
Dead__Man
QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 8 2006, 07:24 AM)
Owh really? whistling.gif
Well then, how can you answer this?

How come all those high end heatsinks tend to use more aluminum instead of copper?

I'm talking about Ultra 120, Infinity, Ninja, HR-01, the only cooper on those heatsinks are on the base, and the heatpipes, while the other things that is on the heatsinks is using Aluminium which is 80% of the heatsink...

Explain that.. whistling.gif
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Copper is heavy, more expensive than alu and doesn't have a high heat capacity compared to alu (which is balanced out by it's capability to conduct heat, nevertheless heat capacity still plays an important role).
diversified
QUOTE
that mean u downgraded from 2GB of ram to 1GB ???

ur 1GB stick is double sided ??


Yea downgraded at the moment:cry: , both the 1GB modules were double sided, I wonder the XMS series will work..
AMD_FX5500
QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Dec 8 2006, 06:31 PM)
better read dis thread from the beginning..u will find alot of tips  thumbup.gif
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ok... thx alot....
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(AMD_FX5500 @ Dec 9 2006, 10:15 AM)
ok... thx alot....
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and don forget to get better cooling as P4 2.4 and above are very hot... sweat.gif
RokXIII
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Dec 9 2006, 11:03 AM)
and don forget to get better cooling as P4 2.4 and above are very hot... sweat.gif
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I think prescott more hot, northwood will be cooler...
as long as not exceed than 65C then can consider "safe" la.... tongue.gif
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(Dead__Man @ Dec 9 2006, 12:24 AM)
Copper is heavy, more expensive than alu and doesn't have a high heat capacity compared to alu (which is balanced out by it's capability to conduct heat, nevertheless heat capacity still plays an important role).
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yeah... new HSF design now juz small metal plate attached to CPU and connected to big sink wif heat pipe(s)... which will be long... and if it's full copper like Gigabyte 3D Rocket 1 the board might bend and maybe damage something... unless ur board is layed down... if u open fridge or air-cond there are lots of copper components inside for the important 1ce and alluminium for less important 1ce... I not pro in these stuff... juz logical thinking... icon_rolleyes.gif

Any1 here tried Gigabyte G-Power Lite b4...? for it's price(RM130 at PC fair) is it worth taking...? unsure.gif
*i can get it for lower than tat...
MaGicDust
Not sure, I read a review somewhere before that its quite noisy... And cooling performance so-so only compared to heatsink of this price range... No doubt, the heatsink looks very cool~! Haha...

Ohya, here is the website, the review is somewhere inside:

www.FrostyTech.com
deric88
QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Dec 9 2006, 12:28 PM)
yeah... new HSF design now juz small metal plate attached to CPU and connected to big sink wif heat pipe(s)... which will be long... and if it's full copper like Gigabyte 3D Rocket 1 the board might bend and maybe damage something... unless ur board is layed down... if u open fridge or air-cond there are lots of copper components inside for the important 1ce and alluminium for less important 1ce... I not pro in these stuff... juz logical thinking... icon_rolleyes.gif

Any1 here tried Gigabyte G-Power Lite b4...? for it's price(RM130 at PC fair) is it worth taking...? unsure.gif
*i can get it for lower than tat...
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last month G-Power BL in "All It hypermarket" RM139.
now waiting for my g-power BL to arrive from j-slade
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(RokXIII @ Dec 9 2006, 01:10 PM)
I think prescott more hot, northwood will be cooler...
as long as not exceed than 65C then can consider "safe" la.... tongue.gif
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I know... but i got bad exp wif P4 2.4 and MSI board... sad.gif
t3chn0m4nc3r
QUOTE(deric88 @ Dec 10 2006, 01:23 PM)
last month G-Power BL in "All It hypermarket" RM139.
now waiting for my g-power BL to arrive from j-slade
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oh... BL...? wat's the feature... drool.gif ?
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